Do All Drill Fans Think The Same? | Digga D, Headie One, Loski, LD | CORD Fan Reactions
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2021
- Digga D (#CGM), Headie One & Bandokay (OFB), Loski (Harlem Spartans) , LD (#67) - to name a few are some of the biggest Drill Artists in the UK, and in this episode we're back with another episode of #DoAllDrillFansThinkTheSame? - covering everything from the censoring of Drill to their initial reactions surrounding the impact of #OFB & #HarlemSpartans.
Leave a comment below with your thoughts!
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0:00 - Intro
0:56 - The Censoring of Drill Has Made The Genre Better
4:39 - Headie One Has A Bigger Impact On Drill Than LD
7:51 - 98's Are Currently The Best Drill Group In The UK
10:07 - Harlem Spartans Have Been More Impactful Than OFB
13:02 - UK Drill Is An Evolution of Grime
15:00 - UK Drill Is The Best Sub-Genre In The UK
What did YOU agree or disagree on?!
More white people listen to drill than black yet you refused to invite white people to the show?
@@rampz975 lol you’re dumb bro why does that matter... it’s music? Not about people’s race + most UK drill rappers are black anyway so???
Zone 2 are the best drill group hands down. Most members can spit and they probably got 2 out of the top 5 drill MCs in kwengface and PS (even Karma) 🤷🏽♂️
@@jRossVG to be fair it’s entirely white with f you’re approaching it from who’s picked as the fans that’s a factor but who acc cares
Man said 98’s?? Who are 98’s?
Why’s my guy sweating so much man, I can see the passion 😂😂😂😭
Good to see them giving LD his props. UK Drill wouldn't even exist as a genre let alone be anywhere near where it is now if it wasn't for LD and 67.
Section boyz too. And surprisingly 1011 should be more credited more than headie because 1011 gave everyone the harsh sound and then unknown T took it mainstream
@@A1un9ine 1011 almost killed it off 😂😂
@@user-lx6fj3kf3j alright then Jayden everyone is untitled to their opinions ahlie? So have yours and I’ll have mine alright
@@A1un9ine don’t cry lad
@@user-lx6fj3kf3j looool hear my man 🤣🤣🤣 dickhead blud
This episode was really , “Naz vs the world” 😂😂
Watch, she chooses to go to the other side when she realises where eveyone else went, just to be contrary whether she believes it or not.
Attention seeking 👀
at least she knows that the 98s ain’t the best drill group in drill right now 🤣
She was jarring
@@dontworry1535 🧢🧢🧢
“Man can’t hear ‘question’ the same” 😭😭 I felt that.
It seems like the first question kinda got misconstrued with some people disagreeing. "Know Better" might not have become the classic it became if Headie decided not to censor himself, and evading censorship has forced everyone to be more clever with wordplay and lyricism, so the genre (music) has been forced to grow due to that.
I just heard a Sainté tune the other day and I can agree that that type of Knucks-type classy wavy tunes are the best sub-genre in the UK, but the issue is that there isn't enough people making that kinda music to say it can come close to competing with drill.
This was a good round of discourse though 👍🏾
3 years ago maybe youd be right but this alternative scene is more active influencing the wider culture. e.g. corteiz is a more prestigious brand than trapstar and that kinda coincides with the rise of alt rap. uk is bored of the usual dry philistine street culture. we want vibrance, innovation, sophistication and flourishing. not the same boring standard beat, standard drip and standard visuals. if i want to see that i can go westfield and feel like im losing my soul. and theres plenty of the alternative. more than plenty if u know where to look
half the fkn song is the man saying shh
@@desapoleCorteiz is nowhere near as prestigious as Trapstar. Maybe somewhere down the line it can compete, but it currently has no identifiable prestige at all. Drill beats definitely aren't the same either, producers have all leveled up in recent times where the landscape of drill has become vast with all types of instruments. The umbrella of "alt rap" is a bit too wide to paint with the same brush because there's a lot of garbage I've heard that fits in that section 😂 but the best are getting heard at least, but they aren't actually influencing much since they're all much smaller than Drillers who ironically have the best mass appeal in the country right now.
@@TheCNSR when i say prestigious, i mean that the brand has this image of cultural acuity that reflects on the person wearing it, a quality that trapstar might have boasted in its west london heyday but has since lost touch with.
as for the underground's lack of influence, i just don't see it that way. it hasn't struck a chord with the masses yet but artistic innovation within that scene moves at a million miles a minute because it's written into its DNA. this has absolutely begun to leave a mark on the mainstream which seems to look to the underground for inspiration these days, rather than vice versa. central cee is arguably the uk's most prolific hitmaker and he's just hopped on a pinkpantheress sample.
i think in the future we'll look back on this and realise the underground pioneers (all of it, rappers, designers, videographers, photographers etc) were the unsung cultural heroes of this period. think of it how, in retrospect, the consensus is that the french new wave was the truest spirit of 60s cinema, and hollywood second. regardless of how much more hollywood pumped out and cashed in.
@@TheCNSR youve fully gone from chicken to drill connoisseur. rate how you detail everything
10:58 "Bandokay's the new loski" what solo or verse has bando made that can top every loski verse ever made
word mans chattin bubbles
Loski 016/17 days was too cold
idk for that guy
Yeah these man are waffling
@@d_12_12 true dat
How is a grown man getting other men to address him as “Cheekz” 😂
That’s what he claps innit
🤣🤣
That girl was getting slated lol...she had no clue 😂
Nah, she had a diff pov
@@X.R.808 ngl she was just yapping nonsense
Come on man don’t act like Harlem Spartans didn’t have an impact. If they didn’t go jail they would’ve been way better than OFB.
Nobody is saying harlem Spartans didn't have an impact, its just when you really think about it OFB has had a bigger impact. I thought Harlem Spartans had a bigger impact as well but when u think about it OFB has been around for ages and there's so many levels to them (both age wise and variety). If it wasn't for the unfortunate deaths and jail times, then harlem would definitely be bigger in impact, but the way it is now OFB takes it
@@_jumbo9961 trust Harlem set up the game but natural progression is what it is Harlem weren’t around to influence what ofb did, but trust our generation will be here to give Harlem the recognition they deserve. It’s just early days In uk drill so people picking sides
@@_jumbo9961 Harlem most influential group we’ve ever had. Every single person in drill is influenced by them facts
Wallah Harlem really out south on the map
Harlem Spartans had a bigger impact, even worldwide, OneFour said that they were influenced by Harlem Spartans, and everyone was talented, Mizzy, Blanco, Bis, SA, Loski, OnDrills, TG Millian, everyone was talented.
The reason active gxngs songs are always getting taken down is cah they’re literally made to incite violence, 2smokeyy said it best himself “I do my make tunes for dance I make bangers for killers” and if you actually deep half of the stuff that suspect says in his tracks there’s no way he’s rapping like that tryna make it out the hood 😂😂😂😂
yah i cant lie active gxng is movin mad like bruh listen to their plugged in ong
missing a year 7 ofb fan in this lineup
oi blud 3 up sj shat ap
67 and HS shook the whole music scene. OFB more successful because it’s more acceptable, fax.
She’s Somalian ofcourse she’s love active gang I’m actually dying😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can tell Mali from a mali 😂😂😂
It’s the slang I use in my sides
😂😂😂😭she was waffling tho mothers
@@milli5488 how though? They're songs get taken down even if they censor it
@@SIRAJPRODUCTIONS wtf you on about I said she was waffling in this video
12:47 so when it’s Headie vs LD, they are completely dismissive of numbers and mainstream success but when it’s Harlem Spartans vs OFB, it’s the basis of their argument? 🤦♂️ make it make sense
Facts
I think even if numbers are involved LD is the most impactful because if he didn’t exist drill wouldn’t
@@Mackan-gc4or and that’s where your wrong sticks was the first to do UK drill
So fucking stupid, shouting to make a point stronger when it's shit, like 67 more so Spartans had less of and impact than OFB, lol ofb are nothing new except Headie making the mainstream, just singers
@@CP-dr7qy I hear you, but imo LD elevated it massively
People who say drill has no variety arent serious human beings.
They should do 1011 but they’re not even allowed around each other😂
Naz held it down for the girls. I don't like the youtube comments when it comes to girls when they feature on all fan vids. Naz held it down coz it can be tough being the only girl discussing music with guys. Shoutout to the other girls as well on the other vids
She comes off hella confused
I think she held down her own opinion rather than for girls. She held her own yeah. It was tough for her to discuss with the guys because her opinions were wild to them. The guys reacted the same to eachother when disagreeing. It gets like that doesn't need to be a gender thing
She’s mali of course she held it down
🤦🏽 some of you women just want credit for anything it can be tough wtf
@@qazari she had a different point of view
Cmon don’t disrespect HS like that man 🤦🏿♂️
Naz is too right about the UK focusing too much on one genre at a time!
Yoooooo don’t tell the fat guy was the guy from the video screaming ‘reload it’ 😂😂😂😂😂😂
its him aahahahahahaahahahah
@@princejoshua5819 wait no way?!?! 😂 🙆🏾♂️ fr??
😂😂😂😂😂 mad jokes I clocked him
We need part 2
8:40 You just explained why the 98s are the best drill group right now but you said you disagree... 🤣🤣🤣
Man said Headie made drill soft lol so what did Russ do then?😂😂😂
ahlie
Water drill
They never said nothing about Russ, what are you on about...
@@fldmedia ur not getting what I’m saying,I think Russ made drill more fun and easy to digest that’s what I mean lol
@@Kkayy020 yh i get you but genres evolve and that goes for subgenres aswell, drill doesnt always have to be about splashing ops, drill is literally a beat
That girl is so lost haha
this girl is clueless wtf ahahah active gang best group ahahahahah
loool even took time to think abt it before she said it, had no clue lol
Cause she’s Somali and they got loads of malis in their group🤣🤣
I’m surprised she didn’t say MaliStrip
@@heyah1447 🤣🤣
UK drill doesn't exist without 150, Grizzy and Stickz
Also 67
Make a part 2 !!
peak for the only girl there 😂😂😂😂
Banger Video
Need an International Drill episode
Grime has a n influence on drill but, drill did not evolve from grime, it evolved from road rap aswell as mainly US drill as without Us drill there would be no drill, so grime wouldn't be the evolution of it, but it would hold an influence,
You took my words out of my mouth that I’ve been saying for years
Facts
I strongly disagree, you actually have to analyse factors and components about drill that come from grime. The beat tempo, for starters is a LOT faster than US drill (140BPM which is the same in grime) - US drill and the likes of what Chief Keef were doing sounded a lot more similar to trap beats from the South. Secondly, the 808 slides are a UK innovation at least sonically speaking. Listen to beats like Pied Piper and you would see what I'm talking about. Those were techniques used by grime producers. Third, you need to look at the flow that the rappers used. It's very similar, at least syllable wise and cadence wise to grime music. WIZEtheproducer gets old famous grime clashes and remixes them with Drill beats and he's been a grime producer as well for many years.
Yes, US Drill definitely has made an impact on UK drill music, the pianos most notably, as you can hear it from 67's most successful song, Let's Lurk, as a good example, but overall, I would say that UK drill is much more closely related to grime. It also has some elements of influence from road rap too.
@@gisar.6539 so you're saying uk drill is the evolution of grime?
@@gisar.6539 your whole point is literally based on how grime had an influence on drill which I've said but it isn't the evolution because think about which genre sounded more like drill? Road rap or grime, and if you're saying that grime is the main evolution of drill and not road rap nor us drill then that doesn't make any sense, because when 150 and 67 you could tell that they got their influence from us drill as they even said that they listened to chief keef before they were rapping meaning that us drill is the main evolution of UK drill as if there was no us drill uk drill wouldn't be a thing and we would just have road rap and grime
Naz had a different PoV, not 'she didn't have a clue'. She looked at things in another way but she wasn't incorrect (just because she had a different opinion sometimes).
On the Headie vs LD, who had more impact, it's not just as 2D as 'who laid the bricks/foundation?'. LD helped set up the format/template/style of 'new UK drill'.
Headie One made a new mainstream-ish section while popularising self-censoring. In his prime, he was *the* iconic versatile artist who had different features, beats, albums and styles.
Iconic for most helpful to UK drill as an identified genre goes to LD. Iconic for versatility and expanding to being more mainstream goes to Headie.
But it's my _opinion_ ant it's Naz's _opinion._
Like with american hip hop for example, just because Rakim did it before 2Pac or Jay Z doesnt mean he has a bigger impact on the genre over those two, i personally think Headie pushed the genre way more than LD
sainte being mentioned is top quality
he is so cold🥶
Loool this Naz gyal is the exact thought i had of them active gxng fans that defend them like their own
The combined IQ in this room is less than the amount of farts I push out in a day
🤣🤣😂😭😭
Been crazy hot this and last week, hopefully it wasn’t recorded during these times
16:00 my man finally got involved after 16mins and got violated🤣
i died of laughter after the guy in the red durag his name came on "CHEEKZ"😭😂and why is the guy in the black hoodie and the black cap sweating so much😭
Harlem had the biggest impact on drill, no other group did what they did for drill.
Do zone 2 next
Yeah fr
It’s not LD’s fault, it was misfortune such as him being locked up 🤔 this is dangerous thinking
Coulda I dont know...... stopped selling drugs
Naz is getting violated every time. Reminds me of when the soccer lads start dissing the girl 😂
How can Mr Reload it can confidently say that the censorship of music groups such as Activegxng, Doroad and ACG is a different case and there's different levels to the censorship. Nearly every drill artist who wants to be rude censor their songs and there's specific groups or individuals are still targeted? Like make it make sense
Harlem Spartans is the best drill group!
Not currently. 2016/2017 yeah but not right now
@@_jumbo9961 Yh!
@@_jumbo9961 word
Bring back the black gogglebox pleaseeeeeeeee. That’s the best content
Urban gogglebox cause there wasn’t just Black people on it
@@TheDestineyy I said what I said. We all know black people make the best content
@@MsDarkie93 cool. I know what you mean but just saying
Please do a episode with the Peckham yutes!!! We all want to laugh.
How can you even question if headie had a bigger impact on drill than LD
SO the guy that built the foundation with his group that led to drill being whatever it is now after 150 put the flooring for uk drill to even exist, has a lesser impact on uk drill than the guy that placed himself in the foundation that had been built by 67 and 150, these niggas make no sense🤦🏾
Headie’s impact can be argued as being bigger though given he has bigger accomplishments as a drill artists. That foundation is cool but Headie would be like MJ and is making it break through mainstream more consistently.
@@pandabear1576 true but how would any of this happen without Ld, when headie first started rapping it weren't even drill it was more of road rap and then he changed himself into drill after 67's and 150's impact , which then proves that the impact that Ld had on drill was more than headie as Ld was the reason that headie changed yo drill because of his impact
@@mxofficial4468 nah that just makes him a forefather of drill. That 67 impact on drill lasted for about a year and a half. Bringing in new acts and shit but they were quickly outshined. Headie one in particular has outshined LD as a drill raper so much so that the biggest rapper on earth gave him the stamp and feature. That sparks the first drill project to go number 1. That has had an impact that has already opened the doors for drill to chart more consistently in the top 5 let alone at all. He is also the face of the biggest drill group that also has a major impact. LD cannot say the same because he was still deep in the drug game and got locked.
@@pandabear1576 LD was in jail
Next we need tpl
7:55 Its OFB are the best Group 🤣
Nah if we’re talking about proper drill drill she’s acc right it’s active gang even though I acc vibe with ofb’s ting more if ygm
“LIVE FUCKING CORNNN” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"So you agree with the feds".😂
Naz should’ve used Zone 2 and OFB as better examples against 98s being the best drill group. Would’ve made her argument stronger
Man said “u should be able to say names without any concerns” that’s just horrible to say remember most these man should really be locked up 😅
Harlem can't pass it down cah even the ygs are getting locked.
Like Ondrills, LM and Gsplash are in and out.
Also harlem probably won't ever be the same cah too many are locked and they continue to get locked. Also Bis and SA passed. Rip 🙏
icl Naz spoke facts towards the end
Times have changed I swear certain man are stuck in the past gotta pay homage to the newer drill artist that are making more big moves
Headie one been rapping longer than 67
67 has been rapping since 08 do your research bigman,
I definitely agree that drill is too repetitive nowadays
Don’t know why people use the fact that someone came before as having the most impact like much respect but I can still surpass and left a bigger impact like a don who outgrows and is greater than his father
uk drill is an evolution of road rap and chicago drill
I really watched a group of people cry of drill 😭
@@lostplanets939 yhyh I rate it
The girl was jarring but I acc agree with her rn it’s active gang how can 98 be the best current drill group ddm 🤣🤣🤣
Naz was struggling she weren’t built for dis
Sainte is cold❄️
These man will call any UK rapper that still raps today a TikTok rapper
Section boyz had the biggest impact, disrespect that no one even mentioned their name
Big up ActiveGxng.
theyre mad icl but a bit overrated and 2smokeyys stopped doing music now so they wont nearly be as good as they was
What’s the rapper from Leicester he mentioned called?
Sainte
I think it’s about time they change the people on this 😂... half of them clearly don’t know a thing 😂😂 especially this girl!
Can’t lie the guy at 13:50 is 100% right. Uk drill was firstly influenced by chief Keef/ Chicago heavily.
They were too rude to her 🤦♂️
Bro needs a towel for all that sweat 😂😂😂
That girl is crazy
i swear all these man kept moving like gyal, and the mali ting only one who had interesting arguments
Can’t lie this girl just comes thru to take Ls every time
Naz is saying 98s are too versatile but then she’s arguing that headie one has had a bigger impact on drill Jessie’s new album had like 3 drill tracks?!????
Harlem>>>>OFB
stg
Not in terms of impact
@@pandabear1576 Harlem created the flow used by almost every drill rapper, they created half of the drill dictionary and you're saying not in terms of impact 🤣🤣. Jokeman
@@zain688 created the drill dictionary that almost all young black people that uses slang in the Uk also used at the same time in normal conversation lol? Foh. Their impact still isn’t bigger than OFBs. They have done more to grow the genre as a collective with their 9 major members compared to Loski, Miz, and Blanco. Blame them for going to prison so much for that.
DoRoad, coldest in drill right now
0:56 DRILL is a raw genre meaning that when they mention negative things its pure music as when you put in censores it ruins the whole thing as the genre is built off of violence and name dropping,
imagine if "who I smoke" was censored, it would be the shortest thing ever, but yk why it was popular?, because it was a pure disrespectful drill song (even though it was on a non drill beat)
why do you think no censor got popular? Because it brought back that raw sound of drill with just violence and not watered down bullshit.
Especially when doing 2019 drill music was getting heavily censored And the mad thing is, Zone 2 drop No censor and Dead 2 days and 6 days apart from each respectively as way to capitalise of the hype and shock value
@@conceptsound5 exactly
The word is shit genre
Headie One Greatest Uk Artist of all time
Mario rings 😭
These lot don’t rate Harlem Spartans wtf
SAINTE fasho next up. !!!!!
zone 2 is definitely the best drill group imo
Nahhh 98s are the best imo
someone please explain to me how the 98s are not a drill group?
Naz vs the world 😂😂
This generation is beyond lost 🤦🏽
Trust.
Naz can get it wallahi what’s her socials
Naz is 😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ngl headie has had a bigger impact on uk drill ngl anyone that can spread the drill to the commercial world
Hear me out censoring is what made uk drill better than us drill
Ooo like this take
Do, do all tinie tempah fans think the same
Bare man shit on grime like it didn’t start there put a grime artist on drill and they’ll spin the riddim & then put a drill artist on a grime beat and you’ll see the difference 🤷🏾♂️
Yep and grime is an original genre made in the U.K. not copied from yanks lol
Can someone tell me who that rapper is 19:07
Sainté
Red durag just shouts high pitched wass the guy needs to calm down
19:07 someone tell who that rapper sane is
That ting was clueless she clearly dunno wagwan for 67
Sinsquad are the hardest in drill right now
Numbers don’t mean shit in drill. Commercial songs do better numbers but most non commercial songs are better than commercial but do less numbers