Obligatory: Sean Bean refused to get in helicopters during filming for LotR and he hiked up the mountain in costume
He learned how deadly helicopters can be during his time in The Regiment
(see the KJB! episode about “RONIN” if you don’t get the reference)
Also obligatory: Viggo Mortensen actually broke his toe when he kicked the helmet.
He's died so many times on film that he has an intrinsic sensibility when it comes to avoiding death.
He would’ve been 24 years old when the Twilight Zone movie was being shot so that checks out real hard
First it was overcast during the eclipse. Then it was overcast during the northern lights. I am being trolled by nature itself.
So the right place to be this year was....Southern Missouri . Said nobody ever.
Eh northern lights are cool but they're much better when it's incredibly cold and you're in an isolated location. Hearing them crackle is otherworldly. Then again we see them every year so ymmv
@@th3oryO yeah, my family went to see it at night and apparently half my town decided to as well, and there were hundreds of people in this small park waiting for nothing.
For once in my damned life, I was actually proud to be an Ohioan.
Please NOBODY LOOK AT OUR STATE POLITICS RIGHT NOW THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I PROMISE CLEVELAND IS A NICE FRIENDLY PLACE NOT FULL OF INSANE PEOPLE.
If it means anything, a partial eclipse is basically nothing compared to a total eclipse.
“I am an astrophysicist and I am telling you to look at the Sun” I love when they play chicken with lawsuits, but man, Ciaran was ice cold. No flinching. No mumbled “no, I’m kidding, don’t do that”. Just stared that lawsuit down.
Incidentally, you’ll be hearing from my lawyer about my retinas
Have now listen to the Safety Third segment. My lawyer will be amending the suit; it’s about my GI tract
It was not stated "how" to "look" at the sun.
not quite like „the manual didn’t state not to put my dog in the microwave“. ok.
The Activate Windows watermark having to really pick up the slack while Liam is out.
It tried but it hasn't been on meth as long so it doesn't have the raw energy Liam brings. It hasn't quit meth yet so we'll see.
assume a perfectly spherical garfield
@@colonelgraff9198 strange. I'd think as a Colonel Graff, you'd be more likely to go for lean and mean girls - though still in vacuum.
Please get Ciaran drunk for a bonus episode debunking sci-fi and specfic tropes like asteroid mining. I will up my patreon contribution for that.
After finishing, better idea: Ciaran Kevin Duo Doompill Episode where they compete to horrify the audience with the most depressing/terrifying facts from their respective fields of expertise.
"The Mandate of Devon" was the perfect start for the Safety Third.
Thx, came to the comments to make sure that gem did not go unnoticed. I'd love to listen to the podcast version of this while driving, but it would miss all the Devon notes. Maybe there can be a podcast edit where Devon's voice just breaks in and reads his notes. :)
I love that this podcast is at least 10% as brain rotted by Steamed Hams as me
With regards to Grenfell and the standard fire service advice being to shelter in place, I believe that was based on the idea that individual high-rise units were supposed to be essentially concrete boxes that could contain the fire and stop it spreading: theoretically, when Barry Chunt on the 17th floor decided to cook a fry up after twelve pints, you'd only need to evacuate his flat, maybe the rest of his floor if it was bad. While it might seem strange to not evacuate everyone, emptying an entire tower block is a hell of an undertaking, and requires a significant amount of co-ordination and personnel to do safely and efficiently- and if it's not done safely and efficiently, the risk of people getting injured or killed in a crush is significant.
An additional factor is that, back in the dark old days, fire brigades would carry out routine fire safety inspections on buildings that, in the event of a fire, would pose a significant risk to the public (shops, pubs, hotels, tower blocks), and had the authority to shut stuff down if it was unsafe. As such, fire crews could be confident that if they turned out to a tower block fire, it would probably be contained to a single flat or at worst a floor or two, and that nobody had done anything incredibly fucking stupid like cladding the entire building in extremely flammable materials.
Of course this was far too sensible a state of affairs, so sometime in the late 90s(?) the Home Office decided that the responsibility for fire safety inspections should be devolved to the building owners, because putting people's safety in the hands of landlords and business owners is obviously not a fucking insanely stupid idea. The sad, entirely predictable end result is fire crews turning up to a tower block fire with a set of basic assumptions about the fire-worthiness of such a building and the procedures to safely handle it, only to discover that the situation was completely beyond anyone's expectations.
Needless to say, I hope that all the people who had a hand in watering down fire safety standards in the UK over the years [HAVE A NICE TIME], and that the ghouls who knowingly sold unsafe cladding get paraded through the streets before being [FED LOTS OF CAKE] until they [FEEL A BIT SICK] and [NEED A BIT OF A LIE DOWN].
Unfortunately, this is just the sort of thing privatization causes, around the world. Turns out people 'in it for the money' do NOT, in fact, magically 'self-regulate' to do the jobs of the public servants you laid off. In fact they tend to both ignore the rules AND attempt every sort of regulatory capture and lobbying they can get away with to get rid of the rules they're not following anyways.
IIRC the Grenfell cladding wasn't wildly unsafe FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE, which was low-rise buildings (where the situation's a bit different in that the general construction is more flammable, so your cladding only needs to resist catching fire for a relatively short time in order to be at least as safe as anything else, and also of course it's much easier to evacuate three floors than thirty.) There were high-rise-rated versions available which were much less flammable... but they cost slightly more. So the folks who sold the stuff aren't the real villains.
@@trioptimum9027
Nah, the folk who sold it hid test reports showing it wasn't suitable and didn't meet the fire regulations it was marketed under. It has come out in the Grenfeel inquiry how much they covered stuff up and broke regulations in that product.
Of course, the landlord is also at fault, neither did right in this situation.
My husband shouts from kitchen, “there is no replacement for Liam!”
Delighted that November is back! ❤
Justin is the soul of the operation.
Hello Guest!
Justin is the soul. November is the brains.
Liam is the colon.
It may not seem equivalent, but everyone needs a colon.
@@fuzzydunlop7928You seem to be missing one yourself, have mine ":".
Professor Roczniak, adjunct professors Liam and November, and Activate Windows logo (the backbone of the pod).
I'm gonna mention Devon because no one has yet and they're the load bearing pillar of this podcast who deserves all the love you can spare.
Speaking of chlorine gas, may I recommend the 2004 Macdona, Texas train collision as an episode topic? Includes three fatalities, several injuries to bystanders including employees and visitors at SeaWorld, AND a Union Pacific representative refusing to cooperate AT ALL with the emergency response or the unified command in charge. UP wanted to move the ruptured chlorine tank car before the EPA felt it was safe to do so in order to reopen the rail line, and the EPA's on-scene coordinator had to threaten to have the UP rep removed by U.S. Marshals and have the EPA temporarily take over full control until they felt it was safe.
The worst consequence of the death of the Iranian president is that Sunak (aka The Drowned Rat, or Dr Death the Destroyer of Climates) has decided to use a private plane rather than a helicopter for routine travel this last week. Greatly reducing the chances of him being smeared over the British countryside.
The government's Dassault Falcon 900LX is kinda the standard means of transporting government ministers on official business.
The last time a bunch of high ranking individuals were being flown around on helicopters, a Boeing CH-47 Chinook made direct contact with the Mull of Kintire in heavy fog.
Think the use of the BAe 146 became more normal after that. A wonderful looking plane though - sad it's mostly retired now.
DOH That was my greatest hope....!!! Like the UK can afford to maintain a helicopter properly
Never get in a helicopter, never go caving.
Have you heard another billionair is going down to the titanic, to prove billionair subs are safe?
@@adaroben1104how unscientific, we need to send all the billionaires in subs so we can get a better sample size.
@@maxwellkazemba2299 And in a normal distribution of submarine integrity and mechanical resistance to pressure so we get enough varied data.
Nothing, NOTHING for, "Your fluid of choice..."
You are lost without Liam.
Yeah, but you’ve gotta admit that the Activate Windows logo really put in the work to make up for Liam’s absence.
“Every power plant has one of these in it” I’m shocked no one elaborated on the notion of a giant torch being jerked off to power our cities
Justin getting into a fist fight with Carl Sagan in a parking lot. Probably a Wawa parking lot. That's a scenario that's going to live in my head forever now.
November is on the sidelines, literally holding Liam back. He's drunk as shit and yelling about giving that space wizard a piece of his mind for daring to dis Sheets.
Right when Liam slips out of her grasp and heads to join the scuffle he gets taken out by the chair! Wielded by none other than Neil De Grass Tyson.
@@StarlightSocialist is "Neil De Grass Tyson" the pothead cousin of Neil deGrasse Tyson ?
I've always liked Dr. Dinosaur's True Science Fact response to the starstuff quote - "Yeah, you're made of starstuff, but so is garbage, so calm down. And there's microscopic mites making babies on your face right now. Also starstuff."
'Sun rotates at different speeds because it's not solid'
Happens on the earth, it's called the Coriolis Effect, and it's why tropical cyclones can't form directly at the equator. The differential rotation of the atmosphere, called the Beta Effect, is necessary to get the developing storm to rotate fast enough to not rain out/sabotage itself.
Justin: The Brains
November: The Heart
Liam: The Lungs
Devon: The Liver (they filter out all the bs from the lifeblood of the podcast)
So in the transport alignment of Train good, Car bad; helicopter is very much chaotic evil
Train - lawful good
Bike - neutral good
Liam's van - chaotic good
Commercial flight - neutral good
Walking - true neutral
Public bus - chaotic neutral
Car/helicopter - lawful evil
RORO ferry - neutral evil
Stretch limo - chaotic evil
@@maxhuibregtse4319I thought I had heard in early episodes that horses were chaotic neutral but I suppose that makes buses the new horses
The era of gifting people you don't like Bad Rats on Steam is over; Now is the era of gifting people you don't like a Bell 212 that has not felt the soft caressing touch of a mechanic in 50 some odd years.
Or, has had the caressing hands of a mechanic, but none of the parts were genuine OEM.
On Nova’s Star Trek comment about hydrogen at around 1:10:00, the big dish and/or glowy thing on the middle section of Federation starships is the deflector array. It protects the ship from things like small asteroids, space dust, and gas clouds when travelling at ludicrous speeds.
The it works with the red glowy things on the engine nacelles - _Busard collectors_ - to stock up on gasses for both the main reactor and bulk material for the replicators to turn into coffee and Earl grey.
They did in fact use the bussard collectors to stream some hydrogen into a nebula because an alien was trapped in the same nebula and needed hydrogen to pull off its plan and had been sending messages in people's dreams asking for hydrogen. In a nebula. Which, like most parts of the universe is mostly made of hydrogen.
@@AlRoderick "one moon circles" - had that line stuck in my head for decades
They use this deflector array for so many things, it's like a swiss knife. Gets really boring after a while.
November's comments also reminded me of the episode where Voyager encounters the space equivalent of a broken down garbage truck that's leaking stuff like theta radiation across a whole sector. Not exactly the same as stinky hydrogen but close enough.
I'm so glad we finally got a really silly episode during this stretch of extraordinarily depressing things happening in the world. I certainly needed that mental health boost today.
"Our Son, the Radiator." Disney's least-loved live-action film.
"Our Son, the Radiator" is to the Brave Little Toaster what "God Emperor of Dune" was to Dune.
Fun fact: You can make Your own convection cells: put a pan on the oven and heat up a normal layer of oil. If You watch closely you can see convection cells forming.
"They haven't left one up there yet". That sounds like a really old joke but I've never heard it before. Our dads would've approved.
Electing Biden will make little better, but it's what we do until we can do the shit that *will.* It's like using a fire extinguisher while we try to kick open a door out of the house. Vote angry. Vote *disgusted*. I am. But VOTE. Not voting *will* make it *worse* for lots of people across the world. :(
This, indeed. Sometimes all you can do is slow the descent down the slope, while you look for a way to stop the slide entirely and start climbing again.
It's a no-brainer, especially when the other option is being volleyball-spiked off that cliff and into the abyss.
You can’t even enjoy atmospheric pressure on Mars anymore, because of sunstroke
i hate to admit that id enjoy a compliment worksheet to fill out with the podcast
I'm thinking 5% engineering questions and the rest being on the bits (and Philly sports)
34:35 this is what assuages my fears of the greater, uncaring universe... most of the gnarly cosmic death bringers will hit us so fast and be so complete that you wouldn't be alive long enough to know what just happened.
38:00 - If you live in Boston, you are only too familiar with those steam radiators as the one behind your couch has probably been slowly leaking for the last 3 years and rotted your floor out.
Had one both in lowell and everett. Both were ornately detailed and easily 100 years old
So the sun is both a mass of incandescent gas and a miasma of incandescent plasma.
Hearing Justin complain about the electrical stuff in Phys 2 gives me great catharsis as an EE major who hated heat with a passion
It’s good to know that for every mech E almost failing physics 2 there was a corresponding EE almost failing thermo
27:34 "So a star really is, just a huge huge ball of gas."
Waiting for Liam to say something to the effect of "same", but then realizing he's not in this episode :,C
Just as I was wondering how I'd gonna make it through my night shift on 3 hours of sleep.
This podcast is a lifesaver.
i can't believe liam was kidnapped and forced to take time off
Liam's coming back to the podcast equivalent of coming home to find gas station hot dogs defrosting in the sink
So glad to live on a planet that was cooked to a perfect golden brown
The recent northern lights reminded me of the solar eclipse the way that so many people dropped what they were doing to go admire our solar system in action.
When I worked at the aluminum smelter, Chlorine gas was the innocuous stuff. The Flourine gas, on the other hand, it could sod right off. The carbon monoxide was awkward. I sent in a Safety third about some fun times there.
pods are being cast
That's what that Caesar guy said before he crossed the river of horse viscera.
1:29:30 You know you're addicted to WTYP when you look at that slide and immedially know that it's from the Three Mile Island episode
It would NOT be the “doo-doo chain.” It’d naturally be the “caca chain.”
Ciaran is an excellent guest. Bring them back to explain what the hell quasars are.
I'm with November on the "humanity is alone" vibe. I also enjoy the idea that Earth is the only ball of matter that managed to get itself organized enough to talk shit about all the other matter.
The name of that Patreon tier should be called November Kelly's Heroes. You either donate gold bullion or fully operational Sherman tanks.
@@thomasdjonesn I saw nothing, I was not here, I DID NOT EVEN GET OUT OF BED THIS MORNING!
Vacuum decay is the most poetic justice we could ever face. Some of our elements could only be made in black hole mergers, or the Big Bang itself...stuff it, stardust. Great episode, as usual.
1:07:10 As a Minnesotan, I confirm it is less hospitable than some asteroids here. Also, there are still mines here. That's where the iron ore that Rocz thinks comes from Michigan _actually_ comes from
Yeah and I think most of our closed mines are because that location didn’t have much left to mine.
NOVA MENTIONING YAKUB IS KILLING ME LMAOOO SO UNEXPECTED.
and there I was hoping to escape to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism
1:10:59 Don't worry, by the standards of this podcast this is the straightest anyone has ever shot, you're fine and I eagerly await the "drunken rant about asteroid mining" episode
You can basically read/watch the Expanse for a simplified brief overview of what it is liable to look like once it happens
this episode pulled me away from grindr, thats how much i like this pod.
I'm not sure that's the compliment you think it is, unless your area has an abnormally qualitative dating pool
My personal favourite potential side effect of a Carrington Event is Kessler Syndrome. Yay Devon!
You all have been hitting it hard with regular releases. Thank you for all the work!
1:31 November is living her best life on behalf of every trans woman, and for that she has my vote
6 days after my E&M exams and you hit me with this fuckin maxwell juggalo shit im taking permanent psychic damage
e: arrow notation ass B field, try to come out of the screen i dare you
Oh so *these* are the beguiling lights Devon was talking about in the caving episode!
Helicopters like Healthcare tends to favor those who are well capitalized.
6:15 the words you're looking for are "dudes rock"
You know, NASA spent millions to develop a George Foreman grill to wick away the fat from spinning kebabs in microgravity. The Soviets just used a penci- spun the kebab real fast?
Obligatory angry rant about how that's a myth because the -graphite- fat from the Soviet meat spinner would fuck up the electronics
Carrington event is so spooky thanks for covering it wtyp
1:04:05 Enforcing Castle Doctrine on the Sun, in the finest traditions of Common Law. (I wish Liam had been there to make that bit)
With guest: Space Gareth
November, as someone with IBD, I have been sick about every month of my life for the last 30 years...that is why I'm taking SSI at 62. I have no more patience with my body and the workplace in general. I've served my time.
@@Reid52 Yup. Having a bout today and home watching my favorite podcast! And counting the months until retirement, lol.
Big brass overriding the pilots' instincts
Honestly, maybe the pilot also gets second-hand hubris. "Ah, how often does it happen that a national president just splats into a mountain? That' would only happen in movies, obviously I'll be fine"
I am so cheesed off that I didn't see the northern lights. It was clear, it was dark out, but nothing. I even tried photographing the sky with a long exposure, and still nada. Stupid lame non-world-ending geomagnetic storm.
Liams be vacationing.
It was his turn to drive the JSL but he accidentally illuminated all the Northern latitudes.
A few episodes ago a brief moment exposed your desktop and I saw The Powder Toy, among other things, that out the one handling the slides as a complete nerd. Love it!
The moon becomes gentrified by Britain and it displaces the Clangers, they wake up. Rita Repulsa, it's a whole thing.
Bezos was actually in a helicopter crash back in 2003, when he was scouting locations in West Texas for his Blue Origin rocket test site.
Ok, this is the first time I've started listening to the podcast and had to pause, move to the video. I really love this level of detail!
Not only is Minas Tirith in Gondor, Justin, it's the capital.
The intro is exactly my view of it. (because I'm also in Philly)
Nova didn’t get super Covid, she got multiple Covid debuffs that stack. Just what happens when you’re playing Mario cart with a load of trans women I suppose
this has helped me understand better some of the data i've helped classify for zooniverse so thanks 😊
I see November’s anxiety about prions and gamma ray bursts and raise her false vacuum collapse
Is there any particular reason it couldn't have already happened? How would we tell the difference between the universe originating from one point and false vacuum decay originating from one point? (Genuine question, I've been thinking about it for a while) As far as I know, false vacuum decay would erase everything as it goes, but is there a reason to think it wouldn't have new stuff forming in it's wake?
@@tOGGLEwAFFLESIf I understand the theory correctly not only is it probable but the inflation of the universe is the consequence of a false vacuum collapse early in the history of the universe. Also I believe there’s a point in early universal history in which all information was destroyed, which would fit with a collapse event. But by its nature there’s of course no information to ascertain that idea, go figure.
@@tOGGLEwAFFLES There are fringe theories that the local cluster of galaxies is different from the rest of the observable universe because of this or something like it. The fun part is that this theory can explain anything outside the Great Attractor / Laniakea Supercluster's reach, and there's no way to disprove it, lol. "Space is just different here."
Well there’s your Northern/Southern Lights
Nice, just in time for my lunch break. Time for burrito and podcast time
its right in time for my time break. time for a time and a podcast time.
The news bit about Sunak should have had a short guest bit woth Milo's Kier Starmor impression
November move to Leicester, it's the most diverse city in the UK! And it very cheap
You have to rotate your space kabab at a very high rate of speed.
19:45 I glanced back at the screen and saw an EXACT reflection of the way I'm sitting.
Liam is gone for one episode, and November just runs wild pronouncing Kobe like the beef.
She does this every time she talks about Kobe and to be fair, it's not her fault she's British
if the vacuum collapse happens i would simply not
@@robertkalinic335I read somewhere that in an infinitely expansive universe, the likelihood of vacuum collapse already happening (if it's real) is pretty likely, but if it's beyond our horizon it will never reach us, because of spacetime expansion
I’ve been binging the old episodes of this podcast and so when I hear a new episode I have to remind myself Alice is November now. 😂
thanks for casting the pods
agree with devon, i simply would not get in a helicopter, rip to the iranian president but i'm built different
The dead air bits are actually moments of silence for Liam.
The problem with hitting rock bottom is that there's always someone digging a deeper hole.
For two days it was hot as hell here in OR coinciding with the event (85+) -then luckily the temp plummeted back to the el nino driven temps we had been experiencing the rest of the year. In fact the late may warming has not arrived now.
I feel you November, I couldn't get out of bed for 10 days and then spent the next 5 being the hungriest I've ever been in my life. /virtual hugs
Quick, start a new dynasty while you have the Mandate of Devon!
You better be careful when you fist fight Carl Sagan. He's got Neil deGrasse Tyson to back him up, and Neil has his cousin Mike.
I'm surprised you had a whole talk about helicopters and didn't bring up the time Disney tried to do helicopter tours and had to shut them down because of how dangerous they were.
The other amusing thing that the Turks did was on the way home after finding the smear that used to be the Iranian pres, was fly over a bunch of secret Iranian bases and rocket launch sites, then proceeded to photograph them in high-definition.
More importantly, they let everyone know they did it, posting a number of the photos online.
I am not a big fan of Turkiye as a state, but they never cease to impress.
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul Oh yeah, they have fallen so very far from the (admittedly problematic at times) high ideals of their founding.
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul and I just noticed your username.
I'm glad you didn't choose Elethiomel.
@@FelixMeister He's a force for the good now, and, in some interpretations, had been one originally. Even so, not someone who's name I'd take...
It's always interesting when someone suddenly talks about words in your language you never thought much about. My idea regarding Bergbau (the mentioned German word for mining) would be that "bauen" doesn't necessarily mean 'to build' in the sense of constructing a house, it can also just mean to put work in something, to create something ect. . Like "einen Unfall bauen" which would literally mean "to build an accident" rather means "to cause an accident". Also, an animal den is called a "Bau" as well, because the animal created/worked on it. So in this sense, Bergbau probably just means "putting work into a mountain" or nowadays generally underground (there is also the term Tagebau, derived from Tag = Day, which is mining above ground where you make giant pits). I also heard the attempt of explanation that there are also terms like Gartenbau (Garten = Garden) or Ackerbau (Acker = field for farming) and it was maybe based on that kind of naming convention.
Activate Windows... or don't. It's your decision, and we respect that.
It also blends nicely with my Activate Windows overlay.
Disrespecting the fifth host like that...