Real Time: Basket Setting a Stone Step-by-Step (Prong Setting)
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- čas přidán 21. 02. 2021
- In this video I show you step-by-step how to add a basket setting (prong setting) for faceted gemstone to a ring and then set the stone.
Supplies You’ll Need:
Chain nose pliers
Wire cutters
1.5mm ball bur (to cut the prongs) and 6.0mm ball bur (to open the seat)
4.0mm hart bur (if you don't want to use the 1.5mm ball bur)
Cup bur (1.6mm - I used 14g wire to make my basket) - find the one that fits your wire the best
Prong setting pliers (if you have one)
Prong pusher
Torch
Solder (medium)
Solder Pick
Flex Shaft
Sandpaper (320, 400, 600)
Files
Polishing wheels (silicon or mops)
Quench Water
Pickle
Let me know if you have any questions.
I hope this video helps you in your stone setting! Please like, share and subscribe. If you’d like to see more videos like this, I’d love to hear suggestions in the comments below.
Cheers!
Julessa - Jak na to + styl
Just what I needed to watch. I'm taking a diploma class and wasn't happy with the instructors method, it wasn't working for me. After searching on YT, this was first in my feed, after watching your detailed instructions it filled in the gaps and helped a lot. Thank you, I'm a new subscriber and look forward to watching more!!
Hello Chloe!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 You just made my afternoon! I’m so happy my video helped you learn this technique. We all learn differently and sometimes seeing it from multiple teachers can help either solidify, or as you said, fill in gaps. Feel free to reach out any time. I’m currently filming more intermediate techniques and hope to get them posted as they’re completed 😀
Thanks! This was so helpful!
Thank you so much Kulalapaz!!! I’m glad this was helpful for you.😊😊
Gracias por su muy bien explicado vídeo. Le agradezco su gran esfuerzo por explicarlo de una manera tan clara.
Felicidades. 3:47 4:26 4:27
Muchos gracias Adolfo! 😁
Fabulous! Thank you so much for this helpful tutorial☺️👍✨
You are so welcome! 😊
Excellent, thanks
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I am grateful for your efforts in demonstrating the reality of jewelry making and how difficult and frustrating it can be. It really helped me understand that trial and error are part of the process and giving up is not. Thank you!
Thank you so much! I try to show that even after years of practice, things can still be tough. 😄
Am new to Metalsmithing, had to take an Art class in college (graduated in 2020 at age 62!) and fell in love with metalsmithing. I love how you take your time and explain things. I have been working on prong settings, but so far have not been able to "master them." Having heard your explanation, I see what I've done wrong in terms of getting the prongs to "line up" and being able to set a faceted stone. Can hardly wait to get out to my studio and play around with this again and try some of your techniques. Your explanations are spot on! I looked on your website, but cannot find the metalsmithing book you were going to upload with the round template. Will go back to your first video and find the info. Thank you Thank you Thank you!!
Congratulations Deborah! So happy to hear you graduated! I’m proud of you for doing it! Thank you so much for the kind words. I love teaching and sharing what I’ve learned. Also, I checked my website and realized that my “resources” page was not visible, so thank you for alerting me! You can download the circle divider now. So sorry about that! Good luck with your next experiment with prongs! Let me know how it goes.
Thank you so much for a comprehensive demo, without missing steps
You are very welcome! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions! 😄
Do did great! Thank you so much!
Thank you Joanna! 😁
This is quite an excellent tutorial! You go into the perfect amount of detail and at just the right speed. Also, your camera work and angles are excellent. I could see all the details, as you fabricated. Thank you so much and well done!
Thank you so much Jeff! 🥰
Oh, my goodness! I have a whole new appreciation for the work that goes into making jewelry. So interesting!
Thank you so much Gale! It’s definitely a labor of love to make jewelry, and so satisfying!
I just want to say your hands are beautiful. I always get guys that have these rugged no manicured no cut fingernails and they do normal work like say for example accounting. So take note guys if Julessa can have beautiful hands and be a metalsmith then so can you mr. accounted on the fourth floor.
Hahahaha! THANK YOU!! 🥰 I always notice that myself with other videos so I try to keep them up. It’s the first thing I check before I make a video! But, you should see them after I’ve spent the day polishing!
Thank you so much for a great video! I love your very informative videos! Please please please make more awesome videos! ♥️
Thank you! I am definitely doing more recording!
Wonderful video. Not only do you explain the "how to" but also the "way to". Thank you for sharing this and you can bet I will be checking you other videos.
Thank you so much Gordo! I'm so happy you enjoyed it.
Whew! As a newbie, this looks pretty hard! Thanks for all of your hard work, in making these two videos.
Thank you so much! It is a complicated technique, but with practice and patience anyone can do it. Keep that saw moving and fire up your torch!
Great! Thank you for your awesome videos
I love the way you explain the steps!
Thank you so much Leslie!!! 🥰
Hi Julessa I love your tutorials I would like to ask you how to do calculations for básquet setting an oval faceted stone .Thanks
Hello Maryse! Thank you so much for the kind words! I will definitely be making a video on the calculations for basket setting as several of my followers have asked for it. It will post shortly.
Thank you the detailed instructions, you are really very generous with your knowledge.
You’re welcome! Thank you so much!🥰
Great Video! Thank you!
You’re so welcome 😉
Good clear explanation. Have you ever used GF wire for this type setting? Thanks
Thank you so much. If you are good at soldering gold-filled, I can’t see why you couldn’t. I never did get the hang of soldering gold-filled - it always ended up discolored and very un-gold-like for me ☺️ But, I do practice with copper and brass whenever I’m trying a new technique, so This setting should work with gold-filled as well.
Thanks for the video! Recommendation on magnification glasses? Thank you!
Thank you Joan!! I use the cheapest visor magnifiers I could find at the time. I think they run about $45 USD now and have a 2x and 3x magnification. I’ve had mine so long I think I may have paid about $20 for them 😀
Great Vid
Thank you! 🤗
Love this!!! Excited to get started today trying this myself. Julessa I cant thank you enough for all the time and infirmation you share with us!!! You have helped me so much along my own personal journey and I am forever grateful.
Thank you so much. I’m happy to share my knowledge to help you along! I have lots more videos in the works. 😃
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith I cant wait!!! 💖
Thank you for the video It was very informative I would be interested to see how you would set an irregular stone in a prong setting if you feel like it
You’re welcome! I’ll put it on the list of videos to do! Thank you.
Julessa, just discovered your channel, enjoying the more advanced topics, thank you. I have a design question for you about the ring of this video; do you think that maybe the setting is overly large for the ring and especially the stone? Or perhaps you used 1.6mm wire for the basket to demonstrate the technique? I sometimes find that settings that are so beefy for a delicate looking stone takes away from the beauty of the finished piece, certainly the stone doesn’t need such a heavy setting to be secure, I would love your thoughts. Thanks so much.
Hello Flying Chef!!! Yes, I purposely used large wire for this tutorial for the sake of being able to “see” the process in action. Normally I wouldn’t use such a heavy wire. One note though, if I do set stones in prongs using sterling silver, I will use a little heavier gauge than I would for gold just for durability.
Thanks for an excellent tutorial! I looked and looked for something and landed on yours finally. What gauge was the wire?
I’m so glad you found me! For this particular tutorial, I used 18g wire so it would show well on video and be secure for the somewhat larger stones. If the stones were smaller, I would use either a bezel setting or a half-claw, half-bezel setting in sterling silver for more security of the stone.
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith tried it this morning/afternoon. I can’t count the number of times I dropped jump rings😂 . It took three + tries to get a good looking setting finally. Harder than you’d think at the outset for sure! ;)
Settled on 16 gauge at the end because I melted one setting, sigh. It’s all good practice though!
@@christinemcdaniel9299 Yes! But you did it. That’s a huge accomplishment because it looks a lot easier than it actually is. Pat yourself on the back and know it will get easier each time you do it 😁
Great tutorial. Can you tell me where you got those nice thin parallel pliers that adjusts your prongs? Being very new to setting faceted stones, I don't know what are the ideal pliers and you also use a brass pusher. Those two items I'm curious where to get them. Thanks.
Hello! Thank you. The pliers are called gemsetting pliers and can be bought at several online stores. Here’s a link to a set on jewelrytools.com: www.jewelrytools.com/eurotool/setting-pliers/Parallel-Gemsetting-Plier.html. As for the brass pusher, I made it myself from 3/32 brass rod and a wooden pin vise handle. Sometimes we have to make the tools we need out of necessity or because they’re too expensive to buy. 🤣. I was actually gifted the prong pliers by a retired jeweler several years ago. Kingsley North is another resource I sometimes use to buy jewelry tools. Hope this helps and thank you again for watching my video!
Excelente trabajo. Creo que voy a animarme a hacer ese ipo de engates. Aunque soy solo un aficionado. Felicitaciones por la detallada explicación.
¡Muchas gracias! Puedes hacer esto, lo prometo. ¡Solo un poco de práctica y lo tendrás rápidamente! Gracias por ver el video y estén atentos para más.
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith Ya me anime a hacer este bonito anillo. Una pregunta qué calibre tiene el engaste (grifas). Muchas gracias.
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith en latinoamerica le dicen grifas a las uñas de los engastes
@@paulalfredoamorettiismodes3354 ¡Hola Pablo! Gracias por los buenos comentarios. Me alegra saber que ha intentado realizar estos ajustes. El tamaño de las puntas en estos ajustes de canasta es de calibre 16 con fines didácticos. Recomiendo usar calibre 18 para la mayoría de las configuraciones. El calibre 18 es seguro y sostendrá las piedras muy bien y será agradable a la vista.
@@paulalfredoamorettiismodes3354 el calibre es el espesor del alambre? su respuesta fue que lo hizo de 1.6 mm? y recomienda de 1.8?
Could you please tell me witch burs and polishing mops I need to finish and set stones in a cast pice? I am interested in all that I need from cast to finished pice.
I’d start out with a 220 grit sanding disc and work my way up to an 800 grit sanding disc before switching to my polishing wheels. After 800 I use the white disc, then the blue and finally the pink disc when using the impregnated discs. If you use mops and polishing compounds, start with white diamond, then gray star and finally the red rouge. Hope this helps! 😁
This is really great! 👍. I was wondering though why you didn't check the stone's fit/placement before you started drilling notches in your prongs? Wouldn't it be advisable for someone (especially a newbie) to do this to make sure the notches are placed correctly? Either way, I'm probably overthinking it. LOL! I really enjoyed your tutorial very much though. Thanks!🙂
Thank you! Yes checking the placement is important. Since I was only doing 4 prongs I used a layout grid to mark the spots and then cut them. When I cut the notches to set the stone I measured the distance from the girdle to the table and marked it on the prongs before I cut the seats.
What did I miss? I watched making the basket but what are the instructions on how much of a prong to leave for the basket and how did you cut off the bottom of the basket with your saw? What video did I miss?
And what size wire are you using for the shank? I feel like I missed a video. Thank you.
Hello Rita! I don’t know what happened, but you’re right, there is a video missing!!! And, I can’t find my original filmings of that process 😭. So here goes… I actually used wire cutters to remove the excess from the bottom of the basket then used a file to smooth out the bottom. I followed the filing with progressively finer sand papers to finish up the entire setting. Once it was “cleaned” up, I trimmed the top wire (where the prongs are) to about 5mm in length to provide enough material to capture the stone and make my measurements for cutting the seat to hold the stone. I won’t trim any of the excess prongs until after I have pushed them over the stone and have the stone set. At that point, I use wire cutters to trim the final prongs to match the height of the table of the stone (this helps protect the stone from “banging” damage especially on rings). The final step is to clean up the top of the prongs so they don’t catch on clothing or scratch skin. Hope this helps. I will have to film an additional video to cover this topic since I can’t find my originals. I’m so happy you found this gap! I hadn’t even realized the video was missing!!! 😁
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith well, you’re pretty amazing for even responding. With all things, just use common sense. I had this all done a couple days ago. I sawed the basket on the bottom and then detailed the rest as you mention. I am using a smaller torch and I don’t think it really gets hot enough to get the hard solder to flow before it messes up the other silver prongs. Little bit of a mess but I’m fussy. I think it looks pretty damn good.
My stone is 13mm so my ball burr is far too small to seat the stone in the top ring. I will improvise with a bud burr. I got this! I will absolutely send you a picture. Wait till you see thos bold and bright, orange sapphire! Thank you ❤️Love your lab 🐶
What is the tool you used to measure where to start your hart bur on the prongs
I used calipers to measure out the height to start the bur cut for the prong setting.
At around 25min- what is the name of the small measuring tool?
Hello Stacey! Are you talking about the stone setting pliers I used at the very end?
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Can't consider it fine jewelry when using easy solder, bad technique.
That is very true, but for the purpose of practice, I wanted to show the use of easy solder. I have practiced flame control for many years in order to always use hard solder on all my joins for both costume and fine jewelry work. It is a habit I developed after finding weak and failed joins with hard wearing jewelry. I am very tough on jewelry, so I learned early on that medium & easy solder joins are not always reliable, especially for structural integrity. 😃
@@JulessaScofieldMetalsmith never the less you are teaching the use of easy solder, which is inferior.
Heat control or no heat control hard solder must be used throughout the fabrication of the piece.
When soldering the next step the previous solder joint must be heat sinked, if not the solder will weaken creating an inferior joint.
Once upon a time asbestos was used as a heat sink, it is no longer allowed but there are other alternatives. Rio Grande should provide your needs.
Another tip for inhibiting the flow of hard solder. Do not pickle the piece until all soldering is complete. The contamination will help inhibit the flow of hard solder on the previous soldering joints.🙂
Thank you for the additional information.@@NehpetsRellek
Not bad technique, most schools teach the use of the different solders with multiple solders on a piece. You’re welcome to your OPINION but that doesn’t make you an expert nor an opinion leader.
@@julescarlito1197 remain in your ignorance, that's your right.