The Antonio Conte Life Cycle: Football’s Biggest Paradox
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- The Antonio Conte Life Cycle: brilliant before the meltdown.
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Antonio Conte is undoubtedly one of the best managers in the world. Very few coaches in modern football can enter a struggling club and immediately lift them to the point where they are title contenders, but Conte has done that with Juventus, Chelsea and Inter. While Tottenham has been a struggle, his reputation stands.
However, that reputation includes being jovial and easy going at the beginning, but a track record of meltdowns that lead to infighting with the club that employs him and walking away from the project.
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Intro: 00:00
Tottenham: 02:22
Culture Change: 04:19
Cracks Appear: 09:07
Conte’s Cold War: 13:35
Recruitment Problems: 15:47
Grinding Down: 17:01
Outro: 23:14 - Sport
In many ways Conte is exactly like me when I play fifa - plays through the transfer window, gets bored, starts another one
It’s actually so ironic the dislike Conte and Jose have for each other when they are so similar 😂. When it’s going well it’s great but you always know an impending self destruct is coming
well like poles repel one another :p
@@M.Sajid98 Ahh an accurate analogy niceee!!!!
@@M.Sajid98 polish people tend to get along tho
Disagree. Mou's way of handling his players is so much different from Conte I think
Never been a fan of Jose, but don't compare them. Jose (with HUGE help from referees, won two champion's and two Euro's. Conte, with HUUUUGE help from referees (muntari's goal a PERFECT example) managed to win leagues with no competition
I’m a Spurs fan, this was a fantastic video and summarised everything that is going on at the club, yet you didn’t even speak about us, which says everything about “the cycle of conte”. Love these documentary style videos, keep it up.
It's also fair to mention for Spurs, this is the first full season he's had. He came in mid season before year. And also, the 3 close footballing deaths he's had in his personal lives, Vialli, and Giancarlo...
Antonio Conte, what a guy...
Thanks for having me on, great video!
Was great to link up once again, been too long!
the goat
Guys like Conte and Mourinho are short/mid term solutions most of the time because they are very emotionally demanding coaches so they don't stay more than 3/4 years at a club because by that time the players are mentally exhausted. A club either changes the entire squad every 4 years or so or everything starts to fall apart at the 4 years mark.
And back then Man United fans want him for Ole replacement, imagine like having another Mou era but with worse out of pitch drama 🙄
Conte the the short term
In champions league
@@A_r78 he cant pass quarter in cl
@@tharifdzulfiqar789 if he can fix their form he just mighr
After 3 /4 years team has to be changed anyway at least 3 starters gets changed bench players that were good will go so what you are sayin is total nonsense both of those coaches are long term project they need first to build spirit then second season is to build team yet conte can produce success right away because he is very good tactically and very versatile with whatever quality he gets he can get you success. This video is so very not accurate. He is reason for Juventus success and how can anyone blame anything on conte for juve i dont get chelsea was success but chelsea is known for sacking coaches, inter changed whole plan mid season even though he succeeded there coaches that bring their system will need at least 2-3 year to carve his team
Conte is the 2010's answer to Mourinho, minus the European pedigree
And the better style of play
That's like saying a person is a porn star minus the Big D
@@lxfj2128 Better style of play? Mourinho's Real Madrid side was more entertaining than Conte's whole career
Easily the best football related video I've watched in a long time!
Adrian is from another level. Incredible creator. Fantastic person.
Thanks for having me one my friend!
Thank you for your insight! Those stories from his early days at Juve were fantastic and invaluable to the video!
Thank you both for contributing to a FANTASTIC VIDEO
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anyone here after the last press conference with Spurs?
My issue is with conte is he’s not tactically flexible at all. He only has one system and once he’s found out that’s it. Also has been trash with his teams in the champions league
His first season at juve, he tried many formations, until setel fof 3 5 2.
At italy 3 5 2
At chelsea 3 4 3
At inter 3 5 2
At spurs 3 4 3
2 cm at spurs look slugish, should go for 3 5 2
Well if it works for him then he should stick to it but in future it will bite him.
That's his way of telling the board that he wants more player's. He'll keep playing the same player's because he knows the knew player's that c ok come I will go straight into that system producing less mistakes because they're higher quality.
His defense also tends to be consistently good... until it isn't. He will keep the clean sheet with ferocity or will concede 4 goals in one half. No middle ground.
@@dfstarborn I've never understood why he does this. Bad players equal bad results, bad results equal bad placement, bad placement equals bad recruitment, bad recruitment equals bad players. It's the most ostentatious thing ever.
Funny watching this a month later and he's just had a meltdown after the Southampton game
Smh, no one ever mention about how conte lost his 3 best coaching staff/best friends during his days in tottenham. I'm pretty sure it give lots of impact on his emotion & mental state too.
I agree with you 100%! Everything was fine when he first got there but all of a sudden he's toxic? The man lost 3 people from cancer in the span of 4 months, then had emergency surgery? There was no real compassion and I truly believe he wanted to be there but something honestly changed for the worst at the beginning of the season and the World Cup didn't help. There's so much more I can say but it's just my opinion.
This aged well......
I loved how Giuseppe talked about the Juve-Parma 4-1 (11/12 season). He's bang on when he said easily one of Juve fan's favorite seasons ever. The game vs Parma really was the birth of modern Conte ball in its earliest form as he eventually morphed from 4-2-4 (vs Parma ) to 4-3-3 (by October) to eventually 3-5-2 (mid season onwards) in order to accommodate Marchisio-Vidal-Pirlo together in the starting XI since Buffon + Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini were solid as a back three.
Great video as per, Adrian. Big shout out to the three guests 🙌
Thanks Haythamatics! You explained really well that season from a tactical point of view. Thanks for the kind words
probably one of your best videos, i couldn’t help but laugh whenever one of the creators repeated themselves about conte without knowing they all feel the same. keep it up man! hopefully conte goes to psg one day and gets all the players he wants😂
Brother, I myself was almost laughing by the third interview I conducted for this video (with Uncle Sharma) because I had already heard such similar sentiments from both Beppe and MAH already.😂
This was so funny when I watched the video myself. I didn't know and discovered we all said the same!
PSG want to win the Champions League and Conte bottles it regularly.
The 'Summer Fling' analogy went straight for my jugular and I wasn't ready for it. 10/10.
When Conte came in at Tottenham, he spoke about needing patience and asked fans to look at the project Klopp took on at Liverpool. I completely agree with your assessment of his time at Juve, Chelsea and Inter. I just think the expectations at those clubs are much different and he feeds into that mania. He has stopped short of the same outbursts at Spurs despite working with Daniel Levy who is reluctant to spend at the best of times.
I guess I'm still holding out hope he can still be a success with Spurs!
Conte has been humbled. Tottenham have a declining squad. He has to be part of the rebuilding project instead of being the one always having the cash to splash on players
Watching this in March 2023, Conte was on a crest of a wave compared to now!
I kind of understand his mentality. I’m an atlético fan and when we won the league 2 years ago I was happy but it wasn’t enough. I was still angry. I want a damn champions league. A lot of atleti fans don’t feel the same way. They’re ok with winning the league every couple of years. With that alone they consider atleti a “big” club. Similar to Conte I want more and even when we win I want us to aim higher and be the best.
Same my friend I want Atletico to become European Champions one of my dreams
@@safe3395 one day man just gotta keep the hope alive
@@johny_playz7059 so what's your take on Simone just curious and I mean what about present feelings for him.
@@Yeaahh2 I’ll always appreciate what he’s done for the club cuz before he came in atlético was absolute garbage. Yes he elevated the club but not enough. Like I said I want atleti to be considered an elite club. One that wins trophies and not just once every couple of years. I’m my opinion a lot of atlético fans have settled in mediocrity and therefore support El Cholo but I personally would like to finally see someone new at the helm. Even if we lose at least we would have tried something new. Simeone’s unwillingness to change his system is what has seen us play second fiddle to both Real and Barca. Again tho I will always appreciate him but it’s just time to go
You become league champions once every 10 years, not 2 years
As a Tottenham fan I’m happy with conte. Our ownership needs a manager that applies such pressure. If conte doesn’t didn’t do this the club wouldn’t have got us Pedro Porro🤷🏾♂️
How can you be a Spurs fan and also be happy with this terrible football? We've needed a manager to put pressure on the board for some time, yes, but it didn't need to be a manager with dinosaur tactics. He has totally lost the dressing room and our results are absolutely shocking (I think 5W 1D 7L in the PL since October?) and you're okay with that??
Excellent video!!! love the format, more pls
A video on Thomas Frank please... One for your Bio series.
Smashing Video as always...Big up Adrian
Banger after Banger. Thank you for the top quality videos, Adrian.
Quality video. Really like the interviews, some of which I follow myself
this video is perfect adrian. the awesome guests with your thoughtful and tasty, well written takes (i really love your scripts in general but this one takes the cake) makes this my favorite video of yours !
Thank you Joaquin!
As usual, a brilliant video from Adrian! I've been following for years and i watch every video! Adrian deserves 1 million subs!
Gotta say, @Rabona TV: this was excellent as far as videos go. You normally do good work but I really enjoyed this video
I appreciate it pal. It was a labour of love for this one!
Really love this video. The insight from the club fans is really helpful.
I don’t really watch anyone else’s football history videos anymore. Always get so much more out of these.
Great, informative & well researched video
Fantastic video Adrian!!
We need a Klopp video next
This guy is really connected to the right creators in the all the league it feels like. Great video.
Fantastic video! As a Chelsea fan I resonated deeply, and enjoyed a moment of nostalgia. I feel like although the idiosyncrasies are unique to Conte, the trend is common in modern football. How many managers would you expect to stay at a club for 5 years or more? Would love to see you do a video on the life cycle of the modern manager
Pepp Guardiola, jürgen Klopp, Simeone, to Name a few.
Amazing video 👍
dope intro, had me nodding my noggin like mad
Disclaimer: Tottenham fan. Love this video, and appreciate the insights. The only thing I'll add is that it would be awesome to see a Tottenham supporter talking alongside these folks. Not to have them defend anything, but to illustrate how our year and a half has gone. Though I do see IMMENSE similarities, and don't like Conte's lack of commitment to the club (as you said well, his Cold War tactics), he hasn't acted out as wildly as the past.... yet?
It’s a good point. I think you’d need two Tottenham fans on to balance it, one who’s happy that Conte is non-committal and one that isn’t.
Dude your videomaking is very good. Props
Appreciated pal!
Expressions is going through it rn being a Spurs fan
He also has this tendency to bet on undervalued players and change their position. When it goes well, fantastic. But when it goes wrong... Conte also has a bit of Jorge Jesus.
You didn't analyze his 1st season's PL win. You answered WHAT happened, which we already know duh, but you didn't explain HOW it happened.
When he arrived, Chelsea were out of Europe, City and Liverpool were in transition with new managers. While all the other top 6 were playing 2 games a week, because of Europe, Chelsea was only playing one game a week and that gave them a big advantage. The following season they were back in Europe and then everything changed. The pace of games increased and he couldn't keep up with the losses. Then the excuses mounted, and they ended the season in 5th place.
Nice analysis! But, I must say, you'll notice we didn't break down *how* he won at any of the clubs, because that wasn't the focus for this video in particular. The focus was on the cycle he goes through: happy and winning, not taking any blame when loses start, asking for transfers and becoming obsessed with them, and then the inevitable end (to oversimplify it).
It's not only about CL games. 2nd season Conte wanted Lukkaku, but club brought Morata. They sold Matic, Bakoyoko wasn't even near to replace him, he also asked high level winger, he got Zappacosta. Still, Chelsea was not so bad. For top4 they fought with Liverpool and even won them but lost points at the end, in UCL they were knocked out only because of Barcelona away game with Messi. Even though, they won FA cup. 2 trophies in 2 years - more than great result. Ppl unfairly critisized him for the lose streak against ManCity-ManU-Barca. But now we all know that other managers had far more bad periods and results.
Hey Adrian I didn’t know u knew MAH 😅!!!! Been watching his contents and yours for years.
As a Spurs fan, I think there is a chance he stays, and Levy backs him. Because as much he might be insufferable for any management. The Tottenham fans know this is Levy's final great chance at delivering silverware and sort of redeeming his ownership legacy. Also, there is a virtuous cycle here, if he stays, Kane stays, and there is further recruitment. With potentially City and Liverpool rebuilding...there might be a chance here to mount a Conte domestic title challenge season. Or here's hoping for one!
It would be awesome to see that!
He's actually very clever because he always manages to create good projects, then when things start going downhill he manages to get sacked before ending his contract, gets great compensations for it and isn't around when the ship sinks.
Problem with that is it's too obvious he's the one blasting holes in the ship. He's gunna need to change, become a bit calmer & more accommodating, at some point or only desperate owners will approach him which limits his options considerably. The short term guarantee of improvement is all he has going for him & for most clubs that's not worth the headaches.
Mourinho's got a better balance. The guarantee of success isn't as freakishly strong (anymore), but he's MUCH more willing to compromise & his frustration threshold is better.
I loved Conte’s passion as a player and I will always be grateful to him for reviving Juventus. At this time however, Juve needs stability and bringing him back would be like having a lit match in a gasoline factory.
Tottenham, where careers come to die. Their business model makes certain people rich, but it doesn't produce titles. They are aggressively average and always will be with Levy in charge.
Great insight into the general pattern and what we can expect at Tottenham. A bit like owning a supercharged Jaguar F Pace V8, exhilirating at first before maintenance and bills sour the experience 😅 back to a regular car in the Summer for us then when the Lease ends...
Love to see football channels crossing over. Sometimes I forget whose channel I'm watching 😅
Would love to see a more detailed series on other managers
as a chelsea fan, the thing about conte was that he was EXACTLY who we needed at the time of hiring him. But im sure the other clubs he's worked at can agree that while there will be a boost at the beginning, when he leaves he often sets the club back drastically as far as progressing as a club. when he leaves, you're gonna have a year or two where there's a new manager but all the things that conte did were still affecting the club
where did he set chelsea back. He didn’t even set Inter and Juv back
Great video Adrian! Love it…. Forza Juventus
This mans content so good
Dude you are so good at this
Appreciated Connor!
Conte would be perfect for Barca
They both love to not make it past the group stage
I'm a spurs fan and we are a real mess. The owners are terrible.
Would you sell Kane if it means you can have more to spend next summer?
@@BOH-28 thats a great question. Yes if we replaced him for Toney. But i would be sad to see him go. I think son should go really more than kane. If kane stays then son has to go.
Fake fan
they dont play .......weak argument to blame the owners.....
Why not adding his time in Italy National Team as well. Its kinda similar life cycle as well i guess & in the end fight with FIGC as well
conte to psg would be pure entertainment, imagine the press conferences and rants he would make about the indisciplined players there like neymar
@@TwoBlokesOneBall yes lol
Juve fan here: I don't believe he quit Juve abruptly. I believe they had an agreement that if Prandelli crashed out of WC he would become Italy coach, but, in unlikely scenario Prandelli had stayed he would've done one more season. Also, speaking of sabotage: he blatantly sabotaged EL semifinal in 2014 to win the scudetto at 102 points because he felt EL is shit and didn't care if the final was in Torino.
admire him for determining where the land and division of sea lie, he is driven by his instincts...and it's not really about winning, it's an existential drama
It would be interesting to see if things would change if he actually got the full backing of the club in all stages. He is by far my favorite Manager he instills a winning attitude and he is a tactical Genius . But I would actually love for a club to say ok here is the keys and checkbook go win us everything. To see if things actually change and if he stays longer then 3 years .
I think its natural, rather than saying Conte's life cycle. Every individuals in their own office space react that way.
When things go well, we are good and happy.
When something isn't in our favor, we show certain reactions.
That applies for players too.
I don't think all managers make every players happy, neither sad. Still it is what it is, that's life.
After all, winning trophies matters.
Anyways, thanks and nice video though. Good to hear views from others on Conte.
He never got the transfers he asked for. Thats sad.
As a chelsea fan i did warn spurs cant wait for the we need to suffer and suffer more interviews
People said that Pep would change the Prem but Conte did it first.
Your best video
I feel like Mourinho and conte are the types of coaches to take a built team to the next level of winning the league, CL, etc. they are obvious good rebuilders, but they are even better at taking an already decent team to win something the season they join or the next. Definitely short term managers and not the type to nurture over a long period, build and then win.
Talking as Juventino, I supported Conte until Benfica draw in Turin at his third year. You have the possibility to go on UEL finale at home (J Stadium), you played poorly and without risking in any case (even if you need to win) and you go to the press conference crying and moaning about the injury time? As pathetic as the way he left.
It's interesting he's only been at prestigious clubs but ones with financial troubles or lack of finances. Wonder how he would do at a United, Bayern, Real Madrid?
What a line-up
Conte first season in juve, i never experienced it again.
Simply magical, back to back mediocrity, suddenly become dominant and very entertaining.
Juventus should rebuilt with conte again, or zidane.
Only hire coach that have history with juve that know juve value and identity
Atletico Madrid is club with the temperament of Conte , he needs to find clubs that have the same passion he has , Napoli , Atletico , Dortmund , Boca Juniors etc
Only Spurs can stop this madman to win something.
In the video it seems kinda unfair to Conte considering we don’t know how well he could do with the signings he wants
Great video, but please do move that plant away from your back.
I'm so glad united won the el-sackico last season, I'm also glad we didn't get conte. Fans wanted him but thank God we got ten haag
Incredible that even Slavoj Zyzek to talk about Conte
hey maybe u could perhaps talk abt lazio under sarri as with very limited signings they sit 3rd in serie a
Conte knows very well that only one club wins a football match, a football league, a champions league cup and so on. Those clubs who do not manage to achieve anything in life have to shake the whole system to change their fate and win. And even those clubs who do win a lot cannot sit on their laurels as if they can easily decide to repeat their destiny. That is why Conte knows that a football club has to improve all the time, the more so when it is winning cups. Because if it doesn’t it means it has already signed its regression, its decision to stop improving means it is falling behind.
Conte brought me here
I love him ❤
Conte is one of the all time greats
Imagine this generation if Trappatoni ,Sacchi ,Cappello , Lippi type managers were active
In this 2022-23 season, CONTE has lost 3 close friends, one of them his fitness coach at Spurs. And he has now undergone emergency gal bladder surgery which has led him to miss 4 Tottenham matches which they have WON with having his assistants in charge. From the TV screen it DOES seem like the team is playing with more freedom. But ... he has also repeatedly said he likes this groups of players as MEN ....
I think this edition of CONTE especially post surgery, will be one to watch and observe for the changes that MAY be in store from the patterns that these guests explain.
For all of us Tottenham fans, I sure hope so.
Thanks for a great video. Be sure to update this somehow at the end of this coming Summer ... because I think CONTE is very close to having the squad HE WANTS at Tottenham .. THEN we will see him work his magic ... He isn't going anywhere ... at least for 2 more years
The Conte cycle in a nutshell. Go to a club, win things, fallout with the higher ups and leaves the club imploding bar Juventus.
I wasn’t really keeping up with Inter or Conte at his time at inter, but I feel like he was doing pretty well, but then decided to quit the job? And join spurs mid way through the season. Like 2 years ago or something.
I don’t actually understand why he left inter tbh. He won the title and then dipped, which is a 180 of what he did when he was sacked form Chelsea
Basically inter wanted to sell a couple of players because we were without money but ironically if he stayed he probably would have won the scudetto quite easly in my opinion
As a spurs fan, I can’t understand the weird cult of personally spurs fans are forming around him There is a section of fans who i would say aren’t even spurs fan anymore just conte fans lol
I disagree. Calling out club owners in public should be encourage. Putting dirt to the club is good. Recent owners is starting to behave as if they know more about the things they hire people to do.
Conte and Mourinho type of coaches need elite players and consistent recruitment as they are superb man- managers and can't motivate some players after a season. But what Conte does is very bad for his repertoire as he is exhausting his options.
Mourinho won 2 ucl with inter and porto even conte won 3 scudettos with average players at juv wtf do You mean they needs élite players the only manager who Plays it safe and needs consistent recruitment to succed is pep guardiola
@HLA_0302 Alessandro matri
Vidal,vucinic,quagliarella,lichsteiner,Zaza,ogbona,caceres,tevez,Berrardi 90% of them are average
W video
It's the history of Tottenham. Mourinho failed to win anything there. Levy even sacked him so he couldn't.
I know, it's in the history of Tottenham. No Fa Cups, No European trophies, Bill who?
@@sharky7954 tottenhan have plenty of those in the late 1900s tbf
OK! It finally happened!
"flipped it", yeah, yeah Roberto Martinez, Roberto Mancini never tried it lol.
It's simple, he can win then after 2/3 seasons the players become older, more rusty while other teams try and catch his team by spending while his bosses want him to grind with the same players. At Inter they literally sold his best players but expected him to compete. He's right. .
IT WAS NEVER SABOTAGE MATISSE WE HAD ALOT OF INJURIES , BAKA AND MORATA FIRST SEASON AT THE CLUB , BAKA WAS RUSHED FROM A INJURIY WHEN WE BOUGHT HIM ,
Conte
The group stage merchant
Also, and this doesn't get spoken about very often, when Conte leaves, his teams remain strong. Juve, Chelsea and Inter all had good seasons and did good business (maybe not Juve hahha) after he left.
@@HLA_0302 huh? Do you watch football? Juve went on to win 4 scudetti after conte left, and Chelsea won titles, including cl since he left
@@HLA_0302 Chelsea won Europa league the season after he left, cl the season after. If that's in spite of him I'll take that.
@@TwoBlokesOneBall ?????? Yeah bro, now they are. Read what I wrote. Both teams were in good shape immediately after he left
As a Spurs fan this was both unsurprising and somewhat depressing to watch.
We all know it's going to end, I don't know why we don't pull the plug now?
Who is here after AC Milan's Rumours
Having Conte manage your team sounds like being in a relationship with a borderline.