Spectacular, Unique Artefacts From Older and Younger Dryas Cave in Europe | Ancient Architects
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2022
- In this video, I'm taking a look at the Cuina Turcului rock shelter, located on the Romanian bank of the Iron Gates Gorges of the Danube. Like the Anatolian site of Pinarbasi, which I’ve recently looked into, this site has Neolithic archaeology but also Epi-Palaeolithic layers below, and the finds I’m showcasing in this video are really quite amazing.
Cuina Turcului is a well-defined rock shelter, 40 metres long and 25 metres high. Today, the site is sadly under the waters of the Iron Gates storage basin, but back in prehistory, it was above the height of the Danube River.
Below the Neolithic archaeology, there are two archaeological layers of note, both belonging to the Epigravettian culture of Europe. The oldest, Layer One, dates to the end of the Bolling warm phase and into the Older Dryas, around 14,000 years ago, with the youngest, Layer Two, dating to the Younger Dryas, around 12,200 years ago. Please note, the dates mentioned in the paper I’ve linked below are uncalibrated radiocarbon dates, not actual dates.
We can see a general trend that the rock shelter was used when the climate took dramatic downturns, which seems to be a common trend in various parts of the world in my research.
In this video, we get an insight into the lives of both Older and Younger Dryas people of Europe - what they ate, where they lived, their art, their jewellery and so on, so please watch and do leave a comment below.
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This video is more like a study aid and research guide. I’m aiming to describe the finds at this ancient rock shelter, occupied in both the Older Dryas and Younger Dryas climate downturns. I’m not giving opinion or interpretation as I plan to do that in a future video! Thanks for watching!
Thank you!
When they say 'robust males' when referring to the skeletons do you have any information on the size of them.
12:00 thats not a goddess thats a volcano erupting, the back is maybe the fallout from the eruption raining back down, the lines maybe a record of years without a summer or a spring with it being glacial conditions...
Thx so much as always Matt. I was elated to see you covering this potential time period and geographic area. And then to top it off at the end, with - you are going to serve up desert to us too! I didn't even have to risk saying "...more please?" [Dickens]
A few months ago I ripped into you because of the price of your merchandise the mug to be exact, which you explained you don't price them and are only given a cut and it helps support your channel, well let me just say I'm sorry, because the content you produce is excellent and the work you put in and sometimes at short notice is next to none and your the most unbiased historian on CZcams, so thank you for the hours of knowledge you have given me at the cost of your time and work. ✌️
These are amazing, particularly the Layer 1 artefacts. The smoother at 7:20 looks like a map, and when I realised that a lot of the other Layer 1 designs do too. The smoother reminds me of aboriginal art here in Australia, where a lot of art depicts the landscape like an annotated map, also showing important things. Running the length of the map is the valley with the river, and on both sides are mountains. With one mountain emphasised in importance. The fragment at 8:20 also looks like a map, as you say, but the triangular structure looks like a pair of overlapping mountains, the opposite bank below it, then some figures in the water, perhaps animals or fisher-folk, then multiple paths leading to the river. The bone fragments at 11:07 look to me to be a clear depiction of a mountain range on the left, the various mountain heights and the shapes being shown, possibly somewhere else known to the inhabitants. Also, 11:28 looks like a series of pine trees (?) in the foreground and rolling hills in the distance. All that makes me think that with our lack of nomadic experience we are just seeing abstract parallel lines when they actually mean something so important it is a part of these people's visual lexicon.
I see a technique of diverting the river through channels and trapping fish in different sections. (I think I had found the location on Google Earth where it was done)
Also I see "serpent worship" in these carvings and lots more that would take up too much time to explain. Zoom in close and then rotate the pcs and you will find all kinds of interesting features. There is a woman with a "albino" croc lying in a pool attracting other gators and snakes. There's a bear on a hill staring in amazement at all the food.
There's more to these pcs.
I strongly agree with your opinion, when artefact 7 came on screen at 10:50 I immediately said "those are mountains."
Your videos constantly remind us of our underestimation of the people from history's earliest times. And you are demonstrating how the earliest times keep getting earlier... Thank you 🙂
You know I always enjoy seeing the ancient artifacts. Splendid objects! And I was amazed by the variety of animal remains. Great stuff! Thanks Matt!
Thanks Barry! Yes, this was like a base camp!
Watching immediately! 🤗
Thank you
Yippeeee!!!
The videos lately have excellent Matt. Well Done. The fragment with the triangle on it is an ancient polaroid of the persons trip to Egypt. Its the view looking across the Nile at the great pyramid. I'm kidding but...
I think maybe the fragment is more a Polaroid of we had excellent hunting here.
A way to recall it and return to it.
Wow. Literally said it out so loud my hubby came in to see what’s going on. LOL. What great carving’s. I absolutely love 💕 how artistic our ancestors were
The "triangle" design looks like the Giza pyramids. There is much speculation that they are much older than mainstream archeologists like to promote.
The horse ankle bones at 12:24 really surprised me here. In Saskatchewan we have a local game called Bunnock that uses them. No one is really sure when the game was created but my great grandparents played the game in Odessa before migrating to Canada in the 1920's. I even have some playing bones 75+ years old that have similar grooves cut into them to indicate different game pieces! It honestly really boggles my mind to see them in a 12000 year old archeological site not too far away from where they were from!
I bet those were difficult times. Thank you, I always appreciate your work.
At 1:49, I love the graphic indicating the supposed "present global warming" that doesn't appear at all in the graph. Nice touch!! The presentation is fantastic....thank you
I love how this channel just tries to lay out all the possible theories, leaving the viewer a door to explore further.
The bone with the triangle looks like the giza pyramid. Especially with the cris cross lines could be bricks with the larger stones at the bottom. The canal surrounding it. Geese/storks at the base of the river with multiple roads to take to the location
Same
That's exactly what I thought
Absolutely.👍🤯 THE OLDER DRYAS?!! Also, the legs above those parallel lines w/the bend are bird legs; both found in much "later!" Hieroglyphs... the bone object w/the two bulges at one end looks like either a weapon to deflect darts (those little holes?) or magical object to keep danger away, or a symbol of power; and the "smoother" obviously shows the hieroglyph for water, and these are from the Older DRYAS,!? It's either a magical object/sacred/or directional (!) for some reason,if not a momento/postcard from an earlier visit? Or a momento of seeing the Khafre's pyramid being built, or building it? The pentagon on the other bone fragment looks like the beginning or shaping of the outcrop of limestone that became the Sphinx; worshipping arms on either side. The artists are carving what they saw, IMO, and not from imagination, too amazingly coherent considering what we know about Giza and heiroglyphs?! The "arms", the "mountains", and the lined "mountain" an actual pyramid, with two different perspectives, both near or on water. Amazing and not possible?
Thank you sir! My wife & I always look forward to your presentations and this one was truly worth the wait. These are fantastic artefacts, and we are very grateful for them. My wife & I just talked once again how much we appreciate your adherence to facts and when you speculate, you let us know up front.
Thank you again for this presentation. Amazing stuff.
I don't think I heard you say this in the video, but could that be a drawing of the pyramid in Egypt and the Nile? Don't archeologists say that the Nile at one point ran up close or closer to the pyramid? That looks an awful lot like a pyramid especially when you consider the lines on the drawing change from horizontal to vertical at the bottom as the base stones in the pyramid do.
Yes, the river was closer; the courses on the middle pyramid at Giza today (formerly clad in white limestone) look like those on the bone fragment. Isn't that peculiar? The "mountains" on another look like the Muqattam Hills from the other side of the Nile. This artist must have been there, is that possible?
Fascinating place, thank you.
Thanks Dan - good to see you mate
@@AncientArchitects I'm fascinated by regions before agriculture where resources were so abundant that it gave rise to complex societies. The Iron Gates Mesolithic is one of the most intriguing places in prehistory. Looking forward to more on this from you.
@12:23 the object reminded me instantly of something I saw recently on Fearless and Far channel. Mike Corey was in Ethiopia with the Massi tribe and they use carved pieces of wood as "pillows". They are tapered at the top and bottom and have a gentle "V" shape that they rest their heads on when they sleep to keep their head off the ground and away from insects. I can picture these bone items serving a similar purpose.
Picture 5 looks remarkably like a picture of one of the pyramids !!
adding texture to the surface of a bone tool makes it less likely to slip in your grip. The decorations were likely grips for the tools, which also looked pretty. Under daily use, the coloration of the grooved areas would be darker, or even colored.
#7 looks like the scene of a river with mountains in the background.
Wonderful video. I am not a history or archaeology guy, but I am interested in learning about history around the younger dryas period. Learning about human survival during that period gives good idea about various philosophical aspects of humans. I would love to see more videos like this.
Might the "spatulas" have been cutlery? As you say, people were amazingly sophisticated even at this early stage, and they seem to have tools for everything. Hard to imagine they wouldn't have had plates (wooden?) and eating utensils as well . . .
Absolutely amazing. Thank you for the video.
Not to sound like pseudo but the triangular shaped one reminds me of Saqqara. Along with its pre dynastic buildings imitating reed structures with their vertical lines and especially with the stepped pyramid of Djoser behind.
Great video, Matt. I really like that you showed and described the artifacts for us. Thanks for your efforts.
Thanks Matt!
Amazing finds!. They are beautiful works of art, but most likely tools to them.
Thank you as always, bring history to life again. 👏🏻
It's interesting because they're representations can either be features that they've seen, or even mysterious yet things that are unseen....
It appears that the more we find, the less we know, and the more questions we have! Thanks for another fascinating and thought-provoking video. Live long, keep reporting and prosper!
No.The more we find the more we know.
@@philbarker7477 I was referring to the great number of questions arising with each find. So while we know one new fact, each fact indicates a number of things that we don't know. This explanation took more time and words than what I wrote.
Fantastic presentation as always.
Thanks for sharing. New information !
As always. Truly a joy to watch!
the most exciting finds I've seen since . . . Göbekli Tepe, and/or the Rock of Gibraltar Neanderthal abstract symbol. It's a two lines, with one line crossing through the two lines. The Rock of Gibraltar abstract symbol goes back to like 40,000 years ; so, I suppose one should expect to find some kind of relics as shown in this video.
Like a proto pict symbol?
@@TheytellToomanylies like an Egyptian pictogram symbol? I'd go with that before suggesting it's some kind of mathematics.
@@oker59 the pictish culture has a symbol like you describe, I belive it has a circle at either and thougn. Also that the picts came from the phonecians/sea people. Yes, like pictogram glyphs. Pic language. Pictures
Well, there's a rectangle rock with an indent at one end like half a handle with two parallel lines and a diagonal line right through it from Maine inland lake area that is described as being "Clovis". It must have meant something to them, too, and that's about 10,000+- yrs. later, and as I say, found in mid-central Maine, USA.
Those look like miniature land maps to me mountain ranges open plains ,ocean and noticeable land marks, pretty cool
I really appreciate the regular updates. thx very much
Another Awesome video, Matt!!
Thank you
As always great research and information.
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The fragment at 10.44 looks like a landscape, with hills in the distance!
Romania, eh? On this land, in later times, will flourish the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture, Vinca, and, further west, Varna, which produced the first manipulated gold of human history, besides incredible ceramics. You are talking about the time before the Old Europe- Danubian civilization, that maybe invented the oldest form of writing, certainly the origin of their neolithic development. I m totally fascinated by the history of central Europe, and you are always up to date with interesting information. Please, please, please, tell us all that you know about that ...
I like your channel. You make it abundantly clear ancient does not mean stupid, nor does dark skin
The fragments with all the lines and features remind me of Aboriginal people in Australia. They give the young people a map carved in wood when the go on walkabout. Walkabout is a rite of passage in Australian Aboriginal society, during which males undergo a journey during adolescence, typically ages 10 to 16, and live in the wilderness for a period as long as six months to make the spiritual and traditional transition into manhood. So i believe they could be maps these carved artifacts.
👍🏼 Cheers my friend!
Cheers 👍
The mountain may be a conical basket if the piece is being viewed upside down. The mountain is a fine hypothesis but unfortunately we have no way of knowing without more context.
When the shroom hit you right and you just got to do some trippy bone carvings
Thorough job 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
As always, grateful 👍🏽😘
Thank you for your videos! Makes CZcams worthwhile.
Excellent video Matt. This is very interesting can't believe I never heard of it
Thank you!
great work as usual!
Fascinating video! To me, the figures on the tool look like birds, at least the first two do. I'd guess the pyramidal shape is a mountain, or a primitive hut. 💚
I agree with the birds - yes!
Thank you! I think the horizontal lines on the piece may represent the flowing river water.
They definitely look like ducks. At least viewing on a phone they do lol
It could be a pyramid.....and not a mountain
With respect, I tend to disagree. On one side, one would expect the more common artefacts to have better chance to survive and on the other the time and effort to make them should be taken into account. Geometrical and stylised patterns are easier to make than more depicting ones and their abundance in the surviving objects, to me, simply suggest a society where the abundance of resources available, especially fluvial fishing and mollusc gathering, afforded not essential specialisations.
Some proto-artisans would beautify relatively common objects with simple motifs. To see too much in the patterns we observe, I think, would be like trying to discern hidden meaning in the common motifs of historically known pottery production (modern wall paper or textile patterns come to mind).
I am not detracting from the interest and beauty of such ancient artefacts, but a decorative criss-cross pattern etched to increase the grip of a commonly used tool do not necessarily imply a specific and well-thought-out layer of meaning.
Very interesting subject, thanks for the video
Matt I just rewatched a older video of yours about the 40,000-year-old symbols, and I was wondering if you looked at the Engravings on these bones compared to those symbols.
He said it’s coming in a new vid
Always enjoy your videos, AA!
Thank you
Excellent, interesting. Thank you.
always stellar!
I love the European caves- thanks for sharing! 👍
Wow! Thank you.
stunning. thanks
Great video man keep up the good work. I believe the triangle shape is most definitely a stacked stone pyramid with regular and consistent horizontal lines leading up and down the triangle shape that is not a mountain that is a stone pyramid. Much love everyone keep the peace.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you 😊
Amazing I say. Thanks so much for the video and info.
Love to see Amazing stuff🤘
Thanks Nancy!
Amazing artifacts
Interesting discussion. Thanks.
I think a simple interpretation of the designs would be a large monument with a community living at the base, outlying row crops and the zigzags are irrigation
Amazing
The piece with the triangle reminds me of two stele of Baal, circa 200BCE. The next one reminds me of Beaker Culture ceramics with British lozenges being a typical feature of their pieces.
Amazing!
Great video
Thank you :)
I love your videos thank you so much
I can't believe they wrote on them with a sharpie.
😂😂😂
It annoyed me too! 😂
8:22
Top triangle is a field of wheat barley, bottom area are canals of water.
Excellent video - it is the every day objects, like tools, that ancient people took the time to decorate that gives you an insight into their importance to them. I’d like to think there is meaning but I guess pure decoration is a strong possibility. I have notepads full of similar designs - are they just the doodles of the ancients! Keep up the great work!
I say the bone fragments that are "decorated" are actually construction plans. All of those lines could easily be the intended plans for digging irrigation channels, would make sense to be finding that in these places too considering this is where and when farming started and using bones to write down has been a common practice throughout most of known human history, easier to carve into bone than rocks. The fact that the later carvings are more complex kinda supports the theory too.
nice nicer than any decoration i could produce.
Very cool
One has always liked and loved your channel Mat, Early European history ie, this era has always fascinated, living off the land, moving with the seasons, the bone tools/artefacts with carvings, could they be early maps ? as some of the carvings looked like mountain ranges...
Great! "Carry On Matt!
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Needed to open a discussion.
Awesome site and great content as always. The triangle though, I don't think it's a mountain. I think it represents some kind of tent, similar to a tipi dwelling. The vertical lines below, indicate it's somehow attached to the ground, and the horizontal lines are just decoration. It is likely they decorated the tents, so that's what we're looking at here IMO.
If these are speculated to maps, I can’t help to think what the “triangular” shape represents!
Great video again, Matt!
I like the explanation referring to a map.. . You have shown the map with many parallel streams to the NW of the cave, ending in a wide river.
On the picture there's also the mountain..
I could imagine that you show a map in stone of the area where they lived. I see too many "similarities".. Might be worth another thought.
Keep up the great work!💪🏻🌄
#7 is a mountin range its almost shocking how good it looks
Life is all about the little songs we sing
Just measured it 8:29 ... The right side of the 'pyramid' is the same as the Great Pyramid along it's right side, the left is at 45 degrees (measured from these possibly distorted photos).
Isn't it a sharper angle? The steepest pyramid at Giza is about 53° Menkaura's, and the 3 small ones face south on its southern side...the layers of stone blocks are unmistakable; even if I was mostly Neanderthal.
Where do you get your pictures, @Ancient Architects?
One of your top 10 best videos I think well maybe top 100 you do some good work thanks Matt. Oh still waiting for the population drop video hint hint
Very interesting artefacts: obviously they had a sense of symmetry; equidistant double lines are almost a cultural phenomen there.
Those parallel lines are probably representing the decoration on the Knight Rider Trailer...
At 13:07, I feel the 'decorations' might just be usage guides, you know, for a small bread you take up to this line and for a big bread up to that other line, or something like you must take more tant the bottom line but less than the top one with the crosslines in the middle
11:00 looks like a drawing of a sea with mountains in the background
Interesting.
I was thinking MAP/MAP/MAP , just before you said it ... right on !
Seven Rivers enter the Danube around Belgrade up and down the Danube. Maybe the five double lines represent the biggest ones during the younger dryas and before. What caused the sterile deposits. Flooding?
There are hunter gatherer tribes nowadays that use snail shells with holes in just like the ones pictured as a grater/scoop
There are triangles without horizontal lines and those with them. That would lead me to believe the ones without are mountains and the ones with horizontal lines represent pyramidal structures
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reminds me of Ogham writing. the double lines could be snakes, as they were venerated as wise in antiquity and with the druids in the area of British isles where ogham is found. just a thought.
Just off the top of my head, I see insect or spider legs in some of the decorations. Also, the zig-zag decoration to me looks like mountains with desert in the foreground - perhaps a landscape.
That bone fragment with a triangle at one end and with what could possibly be a lake below it: there are three figures made in the possibly-lake area.
The middle one reminds me of waterfowl sitting on water
Just saying
I so enjoy these thoughtful videos you make. Thanks so much (2×)