Perfect video and thanks for the call out. I bought a bunch of the third reality sensors and was very frustrated when my leak sensor didn't pick up a leak I had. Thus the spacers. I would also recommend heavily to everyone to put a paper towel under your sensors so that if the leak happens to flow past your sensor and not hit it exactly the paper towel will wick the water towards your sensor alerting you when it might not otherwise. Keep up these testing videos I love em. Oh and if you want a shelly flood sensor I'd be happy to send you mine. I didn't like the battery life on them.
Very good idea regarding the paper towel. I saw you suggested that on Thingiverse so I did that with the smartthings sensor in the wall. Thanks for the kind words!
Full disclosure: I'm not an expert BUT some of these devices are listed with cybersecurity vulnerabilities on the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) National Vulnerability Database (NVD). For example, a search for Zooz devices yields a DoS related vulnerability for any devices that use the Silicon Lab 500 and 700 series chipset (which is the chip in this particular Zooz device). Additionally, HomeSeer is noted as a major vulnerability with how the HS2 software operates. Again, I'm not an expert and I'm trying to educate myself on how to select safe products that are integrated into my house but wanted to put this out there for folks to look into themselves. I was watching your video trying to come up with some ideas for my house and appreciate all the work you put into this. Your video content is great, keep up the good work!
I've read these papers from the NIST and other organizations, and while it is true that you can jam the Z-Wave network, creating a DoS attack, with either intentionally malformed Z-Wave packets (requires expensive equipment and a lot of work) or simply jamming the frequency directly (cheap and low skill), this is true of ANY wireless signal. The only way to prevent this type of attack is to keep all of your devices hardwired. This is the trade off we take when opting for cheap, secure, and reliable wireless devices over expensive, secure, and reliable wired devices. As for the actual security exploits, those were patched years before (2017) the vulnerabilities were published (2022) and are of no concern if you perform firmware updates on your 2013+ devices or purchased your devices after 2017. Basically, if you have any Z-Wave 300 series devices, replace them, otherwise, you're good. Also, use S2 security mode (optional on 500 series, mandatory on 700 or 800 series). Also, in regards to the HomeSeer HS2 vulnerability, it was patched way back in 2012, unless you're referring to one I haven't found.
@@LifeBehindBarsMC appreciate the summary you provided. I’m definitely not a cybersecurity expert but the input above helps me feel a little better about my Z wave network. I’m using the S2 security mode and the 700 series Zooz devices in my case. Cheers and thanks for looking into it!
Dude, keep you channel going, it's one of the best! I cant believe you only have around 5k subscribers, it should be at least 100k or more! You'll get there if you keep delivering videos like this, simple, clean, informative and because of that really useful. I really enjoy them, thanx for all the work.
Thanks! It's not easy to put a lot of work into stuff and see slow channel growth, but comments like yours are encouraging! I have so many video ideas but so little time haha
Bought 5 of the aqara water leak sensors through your link for it, so hope this helps out your channel a little. Thanks for the advice and nice comparison video.
I use the smart things sensor throughout my house and I really like them. something to consider is you will want to put a sensor where you AC unit is, since most newer homes (in the US) have the unit in the attic they sit in a metal tray in case it starts to leak so any sensor that can not be placed a metal surface would be worthless in this scenario.
Very good idea! Definitely gonna throw one up there in my house! Also thought about putting a probe-style sensor where the condensate drains. No condensate means it's not working. Great ideas!
@@makeitworktech you won't regret it, mine has saved me twice already, the stinking drains tend to get clogged with gunk if it runs a lot, in TX it runs a lot!
Wow, great review video covering lots of products with an excellent summary at the end. I'm in the market to get some water sensors and your video will be helpful to pick a brand. After having a kitchen sink drain clog up and my water softener then flood my kitchen in the middle of the night, I need to get a water sensors installed.
Thanks for all your great reviews. Your product comparison/reviews are excellent and very helpful to us that are setting up a new Home Assistant. IA the ens of the video, would love to see a chart of all the products you compare in a video. It should include a row for each product reviewed and a column for product features, a column for product price, and a column that indicates your repetitive preference. The information you assemble for each product you review is so very helpful, but by the end of the video I can't remember which is which. It would make it so much easier to be able to stop the video at the end and see all the information for all the products in one screen.
Thanks for the great video! I jumped the gun and bought an Aqara leak sensor a few weeks ago (based on my good experiences with their other sensors), and my findings on it were very similar to yours. I was surprised by the difference in texture/finish/design, but after I was done testing it, it just went under the washing machine where I won't see it until the battery dies. I do like how small it is, and how an external probe can be connected. I'm definitely getting a few more for under the sink, under the dishwasher, and in the utility room. Also, at 0:30 I noticed that you have the same gap issue that I had with smart switches and Legrand decora plates. I put a few dozen in around the house, and found that the easiest fix was to take a sharp razor blade or box cutter and trim off the extra plastic around the screw holes on the backside. Depending on the type of smart switch, you may need to trim the extra plastic off from right around the inside of the decora opening too, but 95% of it can usually be taken care of by trimming down the back of the screw holes.
Can't go wrong with Aqara IMO. Great Scott! That's an awesome idea re: the Legrand wall plates! I'll definitely give that a try. It really bugs me seeing that gap haha
Thanks for another great video! I watched your video about motion sensors again a while back. One of my motion sensors died and I knew that your video would help me choose what replacement to get. Thanks.
For me reliably is the most important thing with a leak sensor. Aqara is super in-reliable, and I can't find much information out there that talks about reliability over time with any sensors
Aqara's reliability issues have a lot to do with the robustness of your zigbee Network, and the fact that Aqara devices don't work well with all Zigbee repeaters. Get a couple IKEA smart plugs and add them to your network, and then see how the reliability of your Aqara devices is
Damn kid, you review the shit outta products. Project Farm level reviewer here. I agree with you about the flathead machine screws or anything that uses them. Inferior.
Just wanted to note that I experienced the same missing sensors on the Zooz water sensors (several of them), but it wasn't actually missing sensors in Home Assistant, they are simply disabled by default.
9:16 The new version of the sensor has larger screw heads vs the old flat more recessed style. Thus the metal "arms" are not needed anymore. 22:28 They heard you.
@@makeitworktech yea i need to do that to but first i'm going to upgrade my hardware from a raspberry pi 4 booting from a SSD to a intel NUK. Already have the hardware in place and HA on it just need to use the backup i made on it and move my nortek usb zigbee/z-wave stick over to it.
Great videos, thanks for sharing! Bought the door and temperature sensors from Aqara. very happy with it and great to see they do well in the tests. Do you have you a similar comparison video on Zigbee Sirens?
I've had Aeotec water sensor 7 for a while now, but I keep wondering, should I mount it so that the probes touches the floor or should I just lay it "flat" on the floor, the probes being sideways not contacting the floor. I think I should mount them all so that the probes touch the floor just in case, but looking for some 2nd opinion
Which zigbee and z-wave usb controller to get? And you used long USB cable for door locks, does that mean you have a 20 meter usb cable from basement to front door?
As smart home enthusiast, thank you, this helped a lot. Also, does the Aqara water sensor natively pair with smartthings or is there some sort of handler work around needed? Thanks.
Looks like the Linkind's link has changed to be a listing for their door sensor instead. I'm not sure if that was a mistaken link or if Linkind's changed their Amazon listing?
Aeotec e aqara são marcas muito boas. tenho um da aqara para utilizar como sensor de chuva (utilizar o raindrop) Agora só falta sensores de vazamento de gás , sensores de fumaça e sensores de vibração.
@@RafaelAlves2023. obrigado pela dica!! Eu quero começar a mexer no HomeAssistant,porém 800 conto num raspeberry é foda kkkkkkkk o jeito é rodar em virtual machine pra pelo menos ter uma noção e tals
@@MrThomaz_ Nos dois contatos você desparapusa um pouco e adapta com duas pontas do cabo Jumper. e parafusa, no smartthings você cria o botão virtual para aparecer na alexa.
Written Version is here: www.makeitwork-tech.com/best-water-leak-flood-sensors-for-home-assistant/
Perfect video and thanks for the call out. I bought a bunch of the third reality sensors and was very frustrated when my leak sensor didn't pick up a leak I had. Thus the spacers. I would also recommend heavily to everyone to put a paper towel under your sensors so that if the leak happens to flow past your sensor and not hit it exactly the paper towel will wick the water towards your sensor alerting you when it might not otherwise. Keep up these testing videos I love em. Oh and if you want a shelly flood sensor I'd be happy to send you mine. I didn't like the battery life on them.
Very good idea regarding the paper towel. I saw you suggested that on Thingiverse so I did that with the smartthings sensor in the wall. Thanks for the kind words!
Full disclosure: I'm not an expert BUT some of these devices are listed with cybersecurity vulnerabilities on the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) National Vulnerability Database (NVD). For example, a search for Zooz devices yields a DoS related vulnerability for any devices that use the Silicon Lab 500 and 700 series chipset (which is the chip in this particular Zooz device). Additionally, HomeSeer is noted as a major vulnerability with how the HS2 software operates. Again, I'm not an expert and I'm trying to educate myself on how to select safe products that are integrated into my house but wanted to put this out there for folks to look into themselves.
I was watching your video trying to come up with some ideas for my house and appreciate all the work you put into this. Your video content is great, keep up the good work!
I've read these papers from the NIST and other organizations, and while it is true that you can jam the Z-Wave network, creating a DoS attack, with either intentionally malformed Z-Wave packets (requires expensive equipment and a lot of work) or simply jamming the frequency directly (cheap and low skill), this is true of ANY wireless signal. The only way to prevent this type of attack is to keep all of your devices hardwired. This is the trade off we take when opting for cheap, secure, and reliable wireless devices over expensive, secure, and reliable wired devices. As for the actual security exploits, those were patched years before (2017) the vulnerabilities were published (2022) and are of no concern if you perform firmware updates on your 2013+ devices or purchased your devices after 2017. Basically, if you have any Z-Wave 300 series devices, replace them, otherwise, you're good. Also, use S2 security mode (optional on 500 series, mandatory on 700 or 800 series). Also, in regards to the HomeSeer HS2 vulnerability, it was patched way back in 2012, unless you're referring to one I haven't found.
@@LifeBehindBarsMC appreciate the summary you provided. I’m definitely not a cybersecurity expert but the input above helps me feel a little better about my Z wave network. I’m using the S2 security mode and the 700 series Zooz devices in my case. Cheers and thanks for looking into it!
Thanks! I think these vulnerabilities exist for most Z-Wave devices, but I should do more research!
Dude, keep you channel going, it's one of the best! I cant believe you only have around 5k subscribers, it should be at least 100k or more! You'll get there if you keep delivering videos like this, simple, clean, informative and because of that really useful. I really enjoy them, thanx for all the work.
Thanks! It's not easy to put a lot of work into stuff and see slow channel growth, but comments like yours are encouraging! I have so many video ideas but so little time haha
Thanks for the mention! Glad to see our sensor works well with Home Assistant. 👍
You guys make a very unique device!
Bought 5 of the aqara water leak sensors through your link for it, so hope this helps out your channel a little. Thanks for the advice and nice comparison video.
Thanks! 🙏
It was fun to make!
I use the smart things sensor throughout my house and I really like them. something to consider is you will want to put a sensor where you AC unit is, since most newer homes (in the US) have the unit in the attic they sit in a metal tray in case it starts to leak so any sensor that can not be placed a metal surface would be worthless in this scenario.
Very good idea! Definitely gonna throw one up there in my house! Also thought about putting a probe-style sensor where the condensate drains. No condensate means it's not working.
Great ideas!
@@makeitworktech you won't regret it, mine has saved me twice already, the stinking drains tend to get clogged with gunk if it runs a lot, in TX it runs a lot!
Wow, great review video covering lots of products with an excellent summary at the end. I'm in the market to get some water sensors and your video will be helpful to pick a brand. After having a kitchen sink drain clog up and my water softener then flood my kitchen in the middle of the night, I need to get a water sensors installed.
Thanks! Yeah I had a water expansion tank rust a leak and I wished I had some installed!
Thanks for all your great reviews. Your product comparison/reviews are excellent and very helpful to us that are setting up a new Home Assistant. IA the ens of the video, would love to see a chart of all the products you compare in a video. It should include a row for each product reviewed and a column for product features, a column for product price, and a column that indicates your repetitive preference. The information you assemble for each product you review is so very helpful, but by the end of the video I can't remember which is which. It would make it so much easier to be able to stop the video at the end and see all the information for all the products in one screen.
Hi David, I typically do that in the written version, which I link in the video description. I hope that helps!
Thanks for the great video! I jumped the gun and bought an Aqara leak sensor a few weeks ago (based on my good experiences with their other sensors), and my findings on it were very similar to yours. I was surprised by the difference in texture/finish/design, but after I was done testing it, it just went under the washing machine where I won't see it until the battery dies. I do like how small it is, and how an external probe can be connected. I'm definitely getting a few more for under the sink, under the dishwasher, and in the utility room.
Also, at 0:30 I noticed that you have the same gap issue that I had with smart switches and Legrand decora plates. I put a few dozen in around the house, and found that the easiest fix was to take a sharp razor blade or box cutter and trim off the extra plastic around the screw holes on the backside. Depending on the type of smart switch, you may need to trim the extra plastic off from right around the inside of the decora opening too, but 95% of it can usually be taken care of by trimming down the back of the screw holes.
Can't go wrong with Aqara IMO.
Great Scott! That's an awesome idea re: the Legrand wall plates! I'll definitely give that a try. It really bugs me seeing that gap haha
Thanks for another great video! I watched your video about motion sensors again a while back. One of my motion sensors died and I knew that your video would help me choose what replacement to get. Thanks.
Thanks Geoff! Glad they help!
For me reliably is the most important thing with a leak sensor. Aqara is super in-reliable, and I can't find much information out there that talks about reliability over time with any sensors
Aqara's reliability issues have a lot to do with the robustness of your zigbee Network, and the fact that Aqara devices don't work well with all Zigbee repeaters. Get a couple IKEA smart plugs and add them to your network, and then see how the reliability of your Aqara devices is
@@makeitworktech my zigbee networks are actually very robust, and with a lot of repeaters.
Damn kid, you review the shit outta products. Project Farm level reviewer here. I agree with you about the flathead machine screws or anything that uses them. Inferior.
Thanks dude! Yeah flatheads need to go
Just wanted to note that I experienced the same missing sensors on the Zooz water sensors (several of them), but it wasn't actually missing sensors in Home Assistant, they are simply disabled by default.
9:16 The new version of the sensor has larger screw heads vs the old flat more recessed style. Thus the metal "arms" are not needed anymore.
22:28 They heard you.
Awesome!!
With zigbee2mqtt you can enable or disable the alarm and the light on the Linkind Zigbee sensor.
Ah another reason for me to switch to Z2M...I need to rip off the band-aid haha
@@makeitworktech yea i need to do that to but first i'm going to upgrade my hardware from a raspberry pi 4 booting from a SSD to a intel NUK. Already have the hardware in place and HA on it just need to use the backup i made on it and move my nortek usb zigbee/z-wave stick over to it.
Thanks for the full rundown. Very helpful.
No problem!
Great videos, thanks for sharing! Bought the door and temperature sensors from Aqara. very happy with it and great to see they do well in the tests.
Do you have you a similar comparison video on Zigbee Sirens?
Thanks! Yeah Aqara stuff works pretty well!
No, I haven't done Sirens yet... I'll add it to the list!
I've had Aeotec water sensor 7 for a while now, but I keep wondering, should I mount it so that the probes touches the floor or should I just lay it "flat" on the floor, the probes being sideways not contacting the floor. I think I should mount them all so that the probes touch the floor just in case, but looking for some 2nd opinion
I would have the probes touch the floor if you can!
Which zigbee and z-wave usb controller to get? And you used long USB cable for door locks, does that mean you have a 20 meter usb cable from basement to front door?
As smart home enthusiast, thank you, this helped a lot. Also, does the Aqara water sensor natively pair with smartthings or is there some sort of handler work around needed? Thanks.
Thanks! I believe it pairs directly!
Looks like the Linkind's link has changed to be a listing for their door sensor instead. I'm not sure if that was a mistaken link or if Linkind's changed their Amazon listing?
Yeah, I think they did. I don't see Linkind's leak sensor online anymore.
What about the ring flood and freeze sensor?
Never heard of it!
I have aqara and homekit, would a flood sensor work in my crawl space?
That should reach. You can't use these other ones with the Aqara hub
Aeotec e aqara são marcas muito boas. tenho um da aqara para utilizar como sensor de chuva (utilizar o raindrop) Agora só falta sensores de vazamento de gás , sensores de fumaça e sensores de vibração.
yeah, two of my favorite!
Que massa,e funciona bem como sensor de chuva? Queria um sensor de chuva,mas os vídeos do CZcams geralmente são gambiarras com sensor de porta
@@MrThomaz_ no Smartthings com Drivers Edge . Funciona normal. Só fazer uma adaptação com cabo jumper na parte do parafuso do contato
@@RafaelAlves2023. obrigado pela dica!! Eu quero começar a mexer no HomeAssistant,porém 800 conto num raspeberry é foda kkkkkkkk o jeito é rodar em virtual machine pra pelo menos ter uma noção e tals
@@MrThomaz_ Nos dois contatos você desparapusa um pouco e adapta com duas pontas do cabo Jumper. e parafusa, no smartthings você cria o botão virtual para aparecer na alexa.
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Thanks yeah, gotta renew that. I'll do it tonight
@@makeitworktech sweet! Thanks!