CCTV before and after man kills 'total stranger' in Exeter park
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Killer guilty of 'horror' murder of mum in Exeter park
Cameron Davis fatally attacked 74-year-old Lorna England as she walked home through Ludwell Valley Park in the Wonford area of Exeter, Devon, on the afternoon of February 18 last year.
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A comment by someone else explained this story better than you did... Much better!
Crying for himself because he got caught.
I thought that was Smeagle crying.
Total waste of oxygen
Lorna was in her 70's. If the murderous savage doesn't get jailed for 50 years, justice for Lorna and those who loved her and mourn their loss, will not have been served.
He won't get 50
He won't even do 10 years. And just be put back in community.
You know the tewworwist that killed in Nottingham……
Ur joking right they’ve just said they need to empty jailed instead of building more
@MenBehavingBadly. My comment was about full justice, not a slap on the wrist kinda sentence. So, no! I AM NOT JOKING. My great-grandmother aged 96 was killed by a drunk in broad daylight. Her body dragged over 100 yards before the drunk braked. Grrr. He got a fine and was banned from driving for a while. Was justice served? NO.
Shame the camera cant catch grooming gangs
Ur racist 😂😂😂is
What a moronic comment....clearly you're gammon flavoured
@@john-Mustang-wick The practice the dark arts of stealth...
maybe bc they don't exist outside your head?
Loads of convictions in there high hundreds in fact. You should be ashamed of yourself for not knowing this it's time you questioned your media sources. Instead of screaming that certain media sites are "conspiracy theory " outlets investigate further than your current sources more often than not the evidence offered will be conclusive of which your current sources withhold the evidence continuing with a lie, a lie you believe with your whole heart and conscience that a simple piece of concrete evidence would reveal you the truth. Good luck in your quest!@reecethe
He attacked and killed someone he didn't even know. What a total psycho and sociopath.
His defence team will use this to his advantage
Psycho and psychopath are the same thing!!! Psycho is just short for Psychopath 🤣….and I’ll think you find that most attacks and murders are on people they stalked and don’t know!..
@@shropshirehistory908 I would have a read again, one term aggressive person, other term mental health condition. Totally the correct description of this vile man.
@@shropshirehistory908 I would have a read again. One term aggressive person, other term mental health condition. Totally the correct description of this vile man.
@@shropshirehistory908 They said _'psycho and sociopath',_ not 'psycho and psychopath'.
Monsters walk amongst us on a daily basis.
No shit sherlock
and we are ruled by them too.
Demons
The devil is real.
Hell must be missing a Demon
Just read up abit more on this,apparently he had been trying to get himself sectioned hours before threatening to burn his flat down if the police didn’t arrest him ,they took him to hospital to be assessed the drs didn’t think he was bad enough and released him from hospital ,he then went to the drs and said he would either kill himself or a random person if they didn’t section him,they didn’t so angry he brought a knife in a shop,happened to be the same shop poor Lorna had just been in to buy flour she had popped out quickly for ,and ran up behind her in the park and cut her throat and stabbed her in the heart ,he is now blaming the NHS for not giving him the care he needed and he warned them ,there is some debate about him suffering a schizoeffective episode at the time or if he just a manipulative nasty bit of work ! He has admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility for his mental health ,however he has been found guilty of the charge murder ,gets sentenced on Thursday -justice for Lorna! Peace to her family
Thanks so much for the update. I had no idea what happened to that poor woman. ❤❤
Some decades ago a woman who was in a mental hospital did exactly the same thing. She was released from that hospital and she went to the Police saying she would kill someone if she was released. The Police didn't take any notice of her. She went out and bought a 10" cooks knife and randomly killed an innocent woman who was just out walking her dog.
She went back to the Police to confess what she had done, she had hoped that she would be charged under the lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter and so go back to the mental hospital (rather than to prison) as her act of killing proved she was not mentally fit to be released in the first place.
Thankfully the court where she was tried found her guilty of murder (rather than involuntary manslaughter) and so was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Why? Simply because mentally there was nothing wrong with her, she wanted to stay at the mental hospital because she did not like the idea of having to look after herself after so many years of being looked after by the State (when she was in the mental hospital before being released). The killing of the stranger (the innocent woman) may have been random, but the prosecution proved that it was premeditated, as in she knew that what she was about to do was wrong and that she did it for the outcome of trying to get back into the mental hospital (= the motive) under the guise that her mental health problems were still ongoing (hence her killing a random stranger as proof).
There was nothing wrong with her when she was released, she was not on medication for anything either. She just wanted to spend her entire life being looked after by the State albeit in a mental hospital.
As for this man in the video, looks like he wants the State to look after him also, by demanding that he gets sectioned under the Mental Health Act otherwise he will burn down his flat (didn't work), so now he goes about killing a random stranger - and then no doubt blame his actions on the State for not giving in to his demands in the first place.
Hope he gets at least 35 years on prison.
Singapore did away with the mental health claim in the courts
@@shaukanto6406 To be fair, the police CAN'T do anything until a crime has been committed. The real problem is with liberal do-gooders & parole board members who believe in 'slap on the wrist' punishment only.
Thats called personality disorder.
He’s not sorry she died, for her sake, but for his own. I don’t have the words.
You’re typing not speaking aloud mate
@@joshsmitch5641 happy?
RIP to this lady. x
Why did the hospital release him ? He was in the care of mental health nurses and he warned them he was going to kill, and yet they let him go. If the NHS did their job properly that poor lady would still be alive.
Nah, his benefits and housing were probably under review. He planned that attack, so therefore he did it to benefit himself. He wanted no responsibility and the state to look after him.
Sadly the NHS are so overwhelmed, the reality "Care in the Community" which was created by the Government back in the 80s just doesnt work - Mental Health Homes were closed down and these people who need to be "looked after" to protect the public were just dumped onto the streets - some ended up in the PRisons - which is also not the right place for them - which is why the Prisons are now overflowing too - this is the sad reality of this country.
Cowards always go for the defenseless,. When his fellow inmates find out her age, he will be crying for a different reason,,, often.
Your over estimating the filth in our prisons. Bless
@@norfolkronin6307 No I am not, 2 lads got 2 years for mugging a 73 year old great grandad, after the wing found out they got a good beating and from then on literally every other inmate would give them a dig when passing them. If they fought back they would get another visit in their cell. And that was in a Cat C, He will be going to a Cat B...
@@marksavage1108 Groominggang leaders have been walking around for decades in there, nobody touches them. This is not America, there is no code in our prisons.
usual suspects at it again
@@norfolkronin6307 I think your underestimating just how much prisoners love to get their hands on people who do this sort of thing.
The fact prisoners always like to find someone 'lower' than them mixed in with bravado and a good mix of boredom.
People who hurt/beat/rob/murder old people get Fkned up in prison
There needs to be serious overhaul of the justice system with REAL sentencing and deterrent for ALL criminality.
@@sirwinstonchurchill2052 Can't be any worse than when the torries were in power.
I would rather not live then live in constant alert mode
@@sirwinstonchurchill2052 The Conservative government were for quite some time releasing prisoners early because, the prisons are overcrowded and in an appalling state, like most public institutions came to be under the Tories. Are you really unable to recognise or speak truth?
@@radimkatrinec6935Me too but I think sadly those days are long past for the foreseeable future.
@@sirwinstonchurchill2052 Well, tell us, then: what is Starmer's plan?
Pure unadulterated evil.
Yep!
“Please tell me she didn’t die”He knew she died . Manipulation, he is simply a murderer .
Asked to be sectioned hours before the attack, they said no.
Be better off in a hole, how much has he cost the state already, now another 50k plus a year.
Those figures are heavily inflated, it actually costs them about £20-30 a week to keep prisoners & they reduce costs massively by cleaning their wings so they don't have to employ cleaners etc, but they say it costs 800-1000 a week to keep taxing the life out of the people, it's like this in every sector that the government is involved in, money laundering schemes.
I swear though his mental health better not be an excuse to get out of a life sentence
@@zzirSnipzz1 I suspect that diminished responsibility will be a factor.
If this is not evidence to reintroduce the death penalty, I don’t know!
It isn't.
@@stellajayneit is.
@@dontliethoughhh8147 It clearly isn't.
@@budweiser600 Explain how it's so clear then.
@@dontliethoughhh8147 No. The death penalty is immoral, illogical, doesn't act as a deterrent and just adds to the sum total of human misery.
Why we should still have the death penalty...for people caught red handed,the killing is obviously caught on camera?
Because they don't really give a shit! I've seen this for myself when someone is having a mental breakdown, unless they attack the police or staff they don't do anything even when the person is telling them what they are going to do if they don't get help!
It disturbs me to no end that we walk among seemingly normal people but somewhere in that sea of people there is one that has genuine malicious intent and may be the very thing that will destroy your life and the lives of the people you love. Imagine you could be in a supermarket, the park or just a few streets from your home with your children or parents just going about your day to day business but right next to you is an absolute monster, and you wouldn't even know about it.
I used to go on morning walks 2 years ago but since the start of this year my instincts were telling me its not safe
So i just walk in my garden
If its not a dog attacking you then it is someone like him
I feel really earie now going out with my kids
This world is getting weirder
Don't let the scare mongers get to you. Go live your life with the same caution as is rational. Gangs of immigrants aren't out to attack you. When it comes to psychos your garden is as safe as anywhere else. Go and live your life. Peace x
RIP Lorna, very sad for her family and friends.
RIP Innocent Lady 😢
Remember according to starmer there are too many people in prison. He'll be out soon.
You're an absolute wet wipe that clearly doesn't do their own research
There are too many people in prisons according to Starmer, and if that's true then that means less room for offenders like this. He won't be out soon and you know this
still trying to cope with the election loss, ey?
@@reecetheI garentee if any of those prisoners who get released killed or harmed one of your loved ones you would be crying like a baby asking why they was released.
@@reecetheIt's all right now because we can now blame everything that's shit in this sesspit country on the labour party as they are now runnng it and yes Kier wants to free prisoners!
Panic not my alarmist friend......he also assures us there'll be plenty of youth clubs being built.......surely that assuages your concerns??
Sends chill down my spine to think these kinds of people are walking amongst us 😱😱
Like me, paranoid schizophremic ....medicated ....never attacked anyone but been punched in head and molested in hospital by caring nhs staff
It was a knife attack, and he was jailed for 28 years. Should've been longer
Reinstate the Death Penalty is a NO brainer in Basket Case Britain !!!!!
I was hoping that once we voted for brexit, the ECHR would be scrapped, but of course Brexit was never implemented.
How willing the Mirror newspaper and the police want to show us the face of the murderer! the horrifying image of this poor woman about to be murdered, But totally unforgivable to not show the murderers and rapists' faces of women and young girls in Britain by immigrants and other ethnic groups that they have CCTV and clear images of,
Yes, these things never happened.
When the identity is withheld we know it ain't a whyte skin that did it lol.
It’s the psychological trick of making people think white people do it just as often as the usual suspects if they highlight it and show it everywhere
They want you to think that doesnt happen and white men do it just as often as the usual suspects so you’ll think there’s no problem with them all arriving
Even when it's an Englıshman you want to blame the ımmıgrants. None of these murderers should see freedom again.
It's time to bring back the death penalty in some cases
What like your fucking haircut 😂
@@cantbanme8971 ah the be nice brigade show their true colours again, when you can't debate with any semblance of intelligence, just throw insults that'll work. Always defend the perpetrator never the victim and that's why we have so much vile crime on the streets. By the way Where's your picture?
@@clivejones8011 you're advocating for bring back the death penalty mate, you're a fucking neanderthal what's the point in engaging in any kind of serious discussion. Show me the evidence of anywhere in the world we're it acts as an effective deterrent to crime? I don't have a profile picture on my CZcams account because I'm under the age of 40 and there for aware that's generally considered a weird as fuck thing to have.
@@clivejones8011 also fuck knows what the be nice brigade is
@@cantbanme8971what a pray you are
That’s why you always need to be situationally aware and prepared to use deadly force to defend yourself.
In England don't think so they expect us to just stand there and accept death or you will go to prison yourself those are the rules
Exeter isn't the kind of place anyone had to be scared before. World's gone mental
Exeter has changed. A girl was chopped up above a kebab shop, bodies found in bins and the river as well.
Used to be a beautiful little city.
@@Sir_Sway First thing communist governments do is take the guns. Can't have the people able to look after themselves else why would they need that huge government.
@@Sir_Swayoh will you f@@k off with your gun bollocks. Like a 70 year old lady is going to have time to draw a gun in a total loon intent on killing her
Typical of Police work in the Uk. Very good at catching a killer using other peoples cctv, but not very good at preventing a murder due to no officers on the beat. Prevention is always better than clearing up the aftermath!
He literally told many many people he was going to kill someone and they did absolutely nothing. They need to hold some responsibility for this.
Are other nation's police better at that than the UK's? Have you got some statistics to show that?
The police are only focused on so-called 'hate crimes' spying on social media looking for anyone making offensive comments. They just jailed a guy for 2 years just for comments he made on stickers he posted on a lampost. Police don't care about protecting us from violent criminals, only about coming down hard on freedom of speech.
@@32shumble not in Canada.
Maybe mystic meg could help them.
Bring back the Death Penalty.
No cheers.
Thank goodness for cctv. The government needs to open the mental hospitals again. Care in the community does not work. They don’t take their meds.😡
Absolutely right. And mental hospitals are useless. I have been a victim of a serious arson attack. Arsonist's lawyer said she was too mentally ill to attend court and plead, and was still sectioned in hospital. Hearing adjourned. Turned out, she had already been released and was sat at home on her balcony. She is still dangerously insane.
Unfortunately the asylums have been sold off.Three Victorian asylums in Epsom all in park settings of many acres were closed and sold by Thatcher the patients were told to get care in the community,they slept in gardens and doorways around the area for years,many died by suicide often by jumping into traffic.
There are housing estates built on the asylum land by Tory donors
Truly frightening, My heart goes out to the lady's family and friends.
Ladies and girls- please don’t walk through the park alone. Only go if you have a friend or family with you.
If you go on a walk, always look back/over your shoulder now and then.
Because you should know what’s going on in your environment and who is around you.
If a man is walking behind you, cross over the road.
Never listen to music/ear pod If you’re walking alone as you have no sense of your environment.
If you have long hair, put it in your top so no one can pull your hair from behind.
Add some more tips to this comment, thanks.
Be safe xx
May as well be in prison!
Why?
@scarlettkhan9667 So what you're saying is "women and girls stay indoors like a prisoner or go outside and live in fear for the rest of your life, while males can freely walk the streets" how about, "make males accountable for their actions and lock them up!". There, fixed it for you!
@scarlettkhan9667 So what you're saying is "women and girls stay indoors like a prisoner or go outside and live in fear for the rest of your life, while males can freely walk the streets" how about, "make males accountable for their actions and lock them up!". There, fixed it for you!
This is a coward at work picking on the defenceless (easy target's) Be Aware ladies !!!
Who bred this
Wtf did he think was going to happen. That she was going to stand up and say I'm good thanks
Smeagol's acting skill is superb here
@Arthur_StJohn I was wondering if anyone else thought the same. Gollum clearly won, I guess.
Wtf! He was walking around like a normal person, all the time a ticking time bomb. That poor lady, just despicable😢😢
Probably get sent to some hospital
He literally landed himself in it when they said she died he says” don’t tell me she died “ so straight away that says he knew exactly what they were on about and who .
full life sentence, pref in solitary
early release because of Starmer.
He will be on a protected wing living the life of luxery with television playstation 3 meals a day and a job
You can't walk in the park anymore nowere is safe this days poor lady what a terrible end of life😢
To be fair you are no more likely to be randomly killed now than 20 years ago
@@lucylane7397😂
People can still enjoy the parks but need to learn awareness skills like 'whos around them not putting yourself in vulnerable situations like walking alone down isolated woodland paths in the day or night and dont walk around outside with headphones on so many people just don't pay attention.
@@mattjohnson7475yeah, lets all stay in doors for the rest of our lives like prisoners, so dangerous males can walk freely in the streets 🤦🏻
@@FireMaiden.666 this country is more dangerous than 20, 30 year's ago alot worse for men and women no one is saying lock yourself indoors just have a bit more awareness outside.
I bet this is another case of a known offender who they wouldn't lock up or put in a mental home until after he kills someone.
Clearly a very sick man and we can talk about his mental health prior to the event and blame the police etc however his behaviour after the fact shows a very calm trying to forget and not get caught demeanour….
I mean he fucked up by saying noooo she didn’t die did she. The cameras didn’t actually see him do anything but he basically admitted to it so yeah life in prison
That's only about 20 years these days.
@@Uh_huh Equates to 5 years actually served. He'll be back out by 2029.
you don't think this idiot left anymore evidence?
He slit her throat and stabbed her in the heart, and was shocked she died???
Will cry in jail for years and years .
He aint going jail hes going back in a mental institution
For months and months
This is shocking but what gets me is that at the time of arrest and after ALREADY being cautioned he goes on to basically fully admit what he has done only for the arresting officer to practically try to shut him up reminding him he is under caution. For all the police officers who don’t understand the caution, if a suspect continues to talk and begins to admit his offences then don’t interrupt them.
how can you trust a single soul walking up the street
Not easily
Statistically there are considerably more good people than bad in the world, otherwise society would completely collapse.
Bring back capital punishment.
"CCTV footage moment of attack"... how does he attack her when the video shows "the moment" when he's like 50 yards away and not even close to her?
He literally confessed
Where is the moment though? Click baity to me
@@juliolua2104 did u forget your medication 2day
@@kjp1232 Well if you saw "the moment of attack on the video then by all means continue as you were... even if you didn't see it... just continue as you were mate... I was just trying to be polite and paint it for you to be able to understand but your seeing a moment that is not on the video... have a good day mate ✌️😅🤪
@@juliolua2104 yeah, no details what he did, bit of a pointless video, I'm nosey I need more information than this.
In Scotland most murders get 7yr in prison one third once they get out go on too murder again and then get ten years
Poor woman just heartbreaking. Rest in peace Lorna 🙏 condolences to everyone that knew and loved her.
Absolutely no words for trash like him. Senseless.
The streets are not safe anymore.
No usual suspect comments.... What a world we live in today 😢
You know, the people who usually comment about the "usual suspects" simply want the same consequences for "the usual suspects" as they do for all other suspects. There is nothing malicious about pattern recognition, expecting laws to be applied equally, and wanting to minimise the presence of people likely to commit such crimes.
@@ianclose123 most nonces are white hows that for pattern recognition
They’re actually bots
@@ianclose123nah, they’re the same people who are banging the mental health drum and blaming the police and doctors.
@@ianclose123 The people who comment "the usual suspects" only apply their pattern finding skills when it's certain races of people. For example, they completely ignore the pattern that paedophiles are predominately white men. You'll see patterns if you're focussed on something incredibly specific, like race. Also, you're insane if you think a court takes race into account when sentencing an individual. I assume that's what you mean by, "expecting laws to be applied equally".. You know a pattern I've detected? You never meet an intelligent racist.
Hmmm and he's not foreign, will be interesting to read the comments!
*Usual suspect* , a brat with no limits, borders or boundaries...
The fake crying as he was being arrested and filmed. He knew full well what he had done and had zero sympathy for his victim. Just an act for the justice system to garner a different outcome.
Thank our Country for having so much good CCTV otherwise we wont know who these Monsters are.
Can not remember this being in the news much? ....It's horrific ....and poor Lorna and her family and loved ones ...
The media choose what cases to highlight and it sort of creates a form of hysteria. For example Nicola Bulley and Sarah Everard. In Sarah's case I think at least 80 women went missing in a short space of time after she went missing but they were not reported by the press.
need better self-defence freedoms pepper spray is classed as a firearm in the UK that needs to change it's one of the most effective non-lethal tools... I don't understand how no politician tackles self-defence and sees there is a problem
Heart breaking story Mrs England was the same age as my Mum; now passed, and Lorna unforgivably murdered.
74 is way too soon to leave your family and of course the situation here completely unnecessary, cowardly and selfish.
My heart goes out to the family ❤
Funny how fast all this is put out compared to other horrific crimes
I feel bad for both of them. The mental health system is absolutely disgusting. Blood on their hands. "I warned you" he tried to stop this.
Would you like to deal with that 🤮
I bet the people who refused to section him are probably partying away care free not knowing they could of stopped this death
So weird. Why would he do this? Why was he sitting on the floor? Why was someone videoing him?
Everyone is a victim in this scenario, the killer had asked for psychiatric help and been refused just three days beforehand! Everyone let down by the lack of money in the NHS!
Stop making excuses, this scumbag killed her, the NHS did not follow her and kill her in this video.
Nothing will happen to him because this is the UK, sickening.
Oxygen thief.
We live in a blame culture. So reliant on the government for everything. Our mental health, housing, food, allowance and to think for us. He randomly out of selfishness took another humans life… what a world we live in…
We must all take responsibility for our wellbeing and actions…
What a waste ..,
Poor poor woman
RIP hun
Wow. I remember when Maggie Thatcher closed down those mental hospitals and instigated "care in the community" 😐😕this is where we are now. Regardless of whether (as aluded here) he just wanted to "check out " of having to fend for himself and be a grown up. Calls saying it was pre-medittated is irrelevant. Do we need to wait and see if he's mad? That woman would have been alive now. 🤦
Its real life Gollum!! "My precious"
The Usual suspects 😢
I like the way this term is being used against the racists that use it as their calling card.
Absolute coward!!
So awful, a good woman murdered by a hateful man.Condolences to Mrs England's family and RIP to her.
Just sickening, no words.
Karl pilkinton really fucked up this time
Prison is not a deterrent holiday campus
Now Starmer is in charge he will probably get community service.
Ban parks
This is the system upto now for people with sever mental health issues. Unless you try to take your life or endanger other people? And you get rescued from said action? You will be sectioned/hospitalised (mostly) but if you present yourself to a GP or even get to see someone at hospital with sever mental health issues? You will be talked to or given medication if u lucky. no further help. The system does not work and hasn't worked for over 10yrs. So if you have sever mental health issues? Hope you got close ones who understand and can help you out daily, if none of above? Then you are on your Own. Welcome to modern England (I think Scotland Wales have a better social care system?) 😢
10 years? And the rest!
No murderer has eternal life
No details? What did he do?
RIP Lorna 🙏 💔 💔💔🙏
I'll ask a stupid question ...
'Why did he do it ?'
White male. Usual suspect. Can't help himself.
Alcohol are to blame.
Remember, NHS is very diverse.
People hate surveillance, but it's very likely that this murder wouldn't be solved if it wasn't for all the CCTV. In London it used to be a CCTV per 14 people around 8 years ago.
How awful. 😢. What a weirdo. Lock him up for the rest of his rotten life with hard labour..unbelievable!
Crying because he's realises hes going down for murder! The rest, hes acting !
His voice sounds like a ridiculous cartoon character.
Why did he do it?
Why?
Where was he in the lecture room with the elderly man?
Inmates - please get those torch batteries in socks at the ready…
Life for a life and i aint talking a jail cell.
Sounds Like Precious From Lord Of The Rings.
Am I missing something here. What are the chances of the killer being filmed in a club with a camera panning in and out of him for apparentley no reason.
"Maaaaaate".
My condolences to lorna's Family.