The Origin of Guitar Distortion (playing a 1949 Fender Tweed Deluxe... then going kinda nuts)
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Josh Scott from JHS shows us his legendary Fender Tweed Deluxe amp from 1949, and then we get a bit carried away.
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this poor Fender amp was treated like pulling an 80 year old man out of bed and taking them skydiving against their will
@@THE-CRT maybe re read the comment
@@travisjordan1528 I get the point of it
It’s really funny either way
I never genuinely laugh at comments but this shit got me
I think Mick Jagger could do it
Old gear + historical facts + jam is definitely my type of content on CZcams
Cool and all but why is Josh keeping this museum piece in a storage locker?
oh yes thats my jam
He has a fever and the only cure is vintage tube amps
Yeah I love that Josh isn’t too ‘protective’ about his amazing historic gear as well. He’s so calm and has this ‘just try it man’ attitude that’s really cool.
all these pedals and a antique amp and they cant play shit! gear is irrelevant.
I lost it at "this is a cannibal corpse song" 😂😂😂 A blues proctologist was also very funny 😄😄
all these pedals and a antique amp and they cant play shit! gear is irrelevant.
I was seriously like "Wait, isn't that Cannibal Corpse?"
Shatter their Bones from Eviscsration Plague written by Rob Barret
yes lol
Why does it sound so good aswell tho 😂
Josh's passive aggressive disdain for insane blues gynecologist pedal weirdos is palpable and I love it.
Given the fact that he's a rich manufacturer and not a hard working, starving musician he's kind of one of them too. Take this with a grain of salt. Just saying.
this comment is a rollercoaster lol @@matiasmoulin2126
@@matiasmoulin2126in his case, it seems like it's a "takes one to know one" sorta deal
@@paisleepunk what's the difference between a bues dentist and Josh Scott? The blues dentist owns only one Klon.
@@matiasmoulin2126 I mean, he's a rich manufacturer now. At one point he was just a street kid who played guitar and started modding and making pedals until he found a way to turn it into a thriving company. I personally think it makes more sense for a guy who made his money from making pedals to own rare and exclusive gear than doctors and lawyers and such.
In the end none of it really affects my life, so I don't really care who owns what. I don't feel like I'm being priced out of making music because I can't afford a burst or klon because of rich weirdos.
When these came out everyone HATED them for exactly the same reason people love them now. My uncle remembers buying one that was almost brand new from a guy in 1952 for $20. The new price was $140.
Clean was the name of the game back then, it wasn't til pioneers like Link Wray and the Kinks did distortion become a desirable effect, nearly a full decade after the release of the solid body electric guitar.
Edit: Also to get hold of one of those for twenty bucks... even $140, woah boy!!!
for $140, you could buy about 4 ounces of gold ($35 per), which'd be worth a bit over 7.5k today. Even with the inflated collector's price, it's not that far off the real cost at the time, really
@@thomasharris7881 I checked an inflation calculator to well actually but it's actually interesting. 140 is about 1800 in todays money, seems pretty normal for a fairly hand made tube amp like that. But 20$ is only 200$. So for an amp to depreciate that steeply is crazy! That'd be akin to like some line 6 or something that people decide is a huge POS.
Gotta be one of the best ways to spend $20.
I@@Levibetz inflation calculators are a joke, even if you use shadowstats' calculator it still underestimates inflation. It'd be best to check on it with a basket of commodity prices, but if you want to measure inflation, you have to have a real measure of money, i.e. changing definitions of fiat are pointless - you measure it to gold.
And $140 bought 4 ounces (124g) of gold, now the same $140 would buy what, barely above 2 grams of gold. So your numbers don't represent how bad it is, it's not a deflation of 12x, it is a deflation above 50x
Rob trying to catch Josh's eyes while he's playing, and Josh looking away awkwardly.
I felt that in my soul.
A great Tone Value moment....albeit somewhat disturbing.
@harrisfrankou2368 This is a common occurrence in guitar circles. Some players, whilst playing, will try to catch the eyes of the other person; as if they want to look into them. I'm not sure exactly what they are looking for.
When I watch someone play, I am watching their hands. These players, though, who try to catch your eye, always distract me. I am trying to watch their hands, but I see that they are trying to catch my eyes.
Instinctively, I then match their gaze, but they hold that gaze. I'm not sure of the intent, so I just look away awkwardly.
Perhaps they are merely seeking approval of their playing, and I should just nod my affirmation when catching their gaze. But the moment just always feels so awkward. Let me watch your hands! Stop looking at me! Lol
Creepy and awkward is what that was. He acts like he's Hendrix playing for his groupies 😒🤡
@@Mojorising1328seethe more
15:40 was funny lol
Don't think we don't notice all the cameos of First of October songs, Rob! 😄
We get the trv kvlt Norwegian black metal version though
Great little Easter egg I noticed too!
He doesn't. Nobody does.
He's such a tease.
Terri in the bookmobile!
18:37 Rob after travelling through time and playing this in the 1940's with stolen equipment worth a quarter of a million: "Guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But the kids watching CZcams are gonna love it"
He's the first pedal mule after all
Quarter million dollars to get the philosophical distortion antithesis to the "ALL THE GAIN NO MIDS METALZONE" tone. Brilliant
But just imagine... and hear me out on this one: they blended this tone with the no-mids/all-the-gain/more-metal tone.
Amazing profile picture
@@stringsdiezel Quarter million dollars for a flat frequency response
Guitar community in a nutshell lol
That tweed combo is a muddy mess.
The way Josh's eyes glaze over when Rob plays a metal riff through these is hilarious. You can just see that it hurts him a little bit every time
Same. This video had 60 seconds of watchable content for me. Still worth seeing though.
So sad
You can smell the IQ difference
Good
So Rock'n'Roll was the result of an accident of overdriven amps that were not meant to be overdriven like that. And Techno is the result of an accident of cheap gear that failed on the market used by kids from Detroit and Chicago not in their originally intended way. Like Derrick May said "This music is like this city, an absolute mistake".
Mistakes and Accidents make for some of the greatest musical revolution in history.
that's how a lot of guitar techniques are found, too. Someone does something that sounds bad and then figures out a way to make it actually not bad. All it takes to turn something from wrong to right is a good application of it. There's still all kinds of new crazy sounds people are fitting into heavier music genres. Pick scrapes, pinch harmonics, extreme distortion stacking, whammy sounds, and those dissonant 2 note chords that are 1 semitone apart (don't know what they're called) are all things that seem to be getting used more and more and popped up relatively recently
Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out of control, of a medium pushing to its limits and breaking apart. The distorted guitar sound is the sound of something too loud for the medium supposed to carry it. The blues singer with the cracked voice is the sound of an emotional cry too powerful for the throat that releases it. The excitement of grainy film, of bleached-out black and white, is the excitement of witnessing events too momentous for the medium assigned to record them.
The fuzz effect, too. Marty Robbins' session guitarist plugged into a broken preamp during the recording of "Don't Worry", and that exact circuit was reverse-engineered to become the Maestro FZ-1. As Josh put it in another video on Rob's channel, that completely changed the trajectory of pop music as we know.
@@fish3977 thanks Brian Eno
No that was FRONT242 in Brussels (EBM: Electronic Body Music) and a few others doing this first, those sounds and music inspired lots of later stuff, including techno.
Really nailing that “Crazy Train” tone with the Klon Chain
I was totally thinking the same thing def reminds me of crazy train tone
Almost went dial up modem.😂
Rob stands up at the end and jams his guitar straight through the grill of that tweed deluxe and then body slams the table with all the Klons on it!!! Rock n Roll!!!
I thought he was gonna throw it in the wall with all the other pedals lmao
It is a funny imp of the perverse thought... but Josh is a big boy and might actually have to throw Rob head first through the ceiling before letting that happen. :-)
"When the blues proctologist gets the Klon..." that's quote of the week right there.
For all the good it did, I might as well have jammed the thing up my a... 🤣
I would think a blues proctologist would want something with a lot more bottom-end, though.
What if they don't use pedals? Many blues cats plug straight in, because that's how you get the best tone out of an old tube amp (or new one).
Radio broadcasting started in 1906, was well underway in 1920, 29 years before this amp came out. CZcams dates from 2005, 18 years ago.
I have that exact Fender amp! I inherited it from my grandma in my teens (I’m in my 50’s now). She played an electrified accordion through it in a touring Polka band before my time. It needs a recap after all this time, which I’ll definitely do, but my appreciation for it just went up, and it was already very high from its own back story.
Holy crap. Original tubes and speaker handling all that boost?! Incredible.
that`s tube amp for ya
Speaker has been re-coned a time or two, and the amp re-tubed, but if you replace the parts that wear-out old tube amps just keep on keeping-on!
@@pharmerdavid1432 amps can be ship of Theseused multiple times over. but a JCM800, Blues Breaker, or any other amp will remain that amp no matter the change. Same with guitars.
That Fender amp still kicking at 80 y/o, amazing!
Eh, 74 years old... . Saying 75 would be totally acceptable, but 80 is kind of a lot to be rounding up.
@@patmandew22it’s 100 years old. Give or take
this amp was built closer to us than to the pyramids in egypt.. TIL
I've got a 5 watt Fender Tweed Vibro-Champ with tube tremolo including a speed control, Hi and Lo output, no tone control, and a volume control. She looks very much like this amp and she does distort at anything past 5 out of 12. It was advertised as a tube amp capable of getting that tube distortion at a reasonable volume and that it certainly does. It cost $1,000 new back around 2016/2017 when I purchased her new. I do like her a lot and the longer she stays on the better she sounds. So it's best to turn her on early in the morning and by 6 p.m. I get that tone and distortion that makes my day! I can really rip and do so without destroying my hearing. That makes this amp a real gem and a winner! - Peter age 73
I’m glad I’m not paying your hydro bill.
The idea of treating an amp like a Ferrari and warming it up for an hour is so alien to me and really shows how far technology has come. But ironically we all still want the older amps lmao.
I genuinely love Josh's unabashed nerdishness, passion, and immeasurable knowledge regarding the history of wiggly air pressure dirty tones.
It makes me rethink what "heavy" sounds can be with merely a BMP Deluxe (with EX pedal), a RAT, and a DS1.
🖖
The first thing I thought when I saw it was from December was "oh wow, this was filmed just 2 months after CHAOS" and then Rob just plays a bunch of FOO riffs the whole video.
That end jam on Bookmobile was awesome
It's lit!
I love the dynamic of Rob as the excitable pup and Josh as the old dawg. Just a couples dogs doggin.
I love how Rob played "Rollerbladin'" but it's more like a low-key reminder/teaser that The First of October has a new thing coming out soon haha
I feel like that's why this video came out a year later
@@prettyshinyspaghetti8332 I remember him being at that place before and checking out all the pedals, I can't remember when it was though.
As Bob Ross said, these are happy little accidents. Thanks for the video Rob! Also, peep the lonely angel at the start 👀
if you are rock and roll and DIDNT notice her, well...
We get a kickback every time you say "Blues Lawyer"... so now our kids can go to college. Great video!
ROB IS BACK AGAIN with more ACTION AND HISTORY
With all of them turned on and the gain all the way up it sounds like cliffs bass tone but on a guitar lol
It does almost create a Fixed Wah sound.
@@davelanciani-dimaensionx Since wah is literally just some sort of frequency filter, and we learned that each Klon is doing approximately a bandpass at the mids, yes.
Think of all the cool sounds that came out of that box in 80 yrs. Insane
Well, until they made this video, it did...🤷♂️
@@mattrogers1946why are you angry?
@@mattrogers1946 amp was like "why you do dis to me"
You and Josh should just start a show already where you talk about crazy pedals and vintage gear. Great stuff
Josh obviously hates this annoying ass guy, man.
Guitar guy: Says something
Rob: Repeats exact same thing
The second I saw Josh Scott on camera I knew this was gonna be quite informative but then also go off the rails the second the music history was done with
I was not disappointed lol
Also it freaking figures that Josh has the first freaking Klon ever made, the madman
That amp tone makes me teary eyed. I can't imagine how being in the room sounds, must be wonderful.
josh is the man, could listen all day
Blues Dentist is for sure my new band name.
Cool that means blues proctologist is still available 👍Lololol
i just got my CDs back from being held hostage for 10 years and my friend commented about all of my country music CDs. I replied 'it was the 90's. I grew up with hee haw so i love the older stuff before my time too. You had to be there. I am 7 years older than him but i love tech 9 too so i love every genre of music. Thank you for this post, this was informative to many
I don't like metal, but Rob makes me appreciate his willingness to explore. Thank you for a great video!
It's funny I was looking through all off JHS's content and once I was done watching his latest videos, you posted this video whit him.
Thank you for being so inspiring, keep on, have a good day.
Unexpected crossover! I love JHS Pedals to death and was so happy to see the man himself just slide into frame
Damn the klons really shined on my phone speakers at 14:10
The sound at the end reminds me of some of the lead tones on Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie b-sides. Honestly it’s a tone that works in a specific context.
I honestly think part of why Klons are so valued is because they look fancy. Like they kind of look like something that would cost thousands of dollars.
Yea, no.
@@J.C... Not like it looks like a super premium thing, it just looks like (its design/form) something people could easily way overvalue
@@J.C... Great argument, dude.
it's just scarcity plus demand. it's over priced obviously, but that's all it is.
They look expensive because they are so we just apply that bias. They don’t really look exponentially fancier.
your videos always bring me so much joy. keep it up rob 💜
I don't know why it took so long for this to show up in my feed, but this COULD be the most ridiculous experiment I've ever seen and by far the best time I've spent on youtube in months! This is equal parts amazing, hilarious, entertaining and educational all in one. You and Josh are good together. Keep it up!
Bro that jam and the end was nuts.
Rob “The blues proctologist” Scallon
Josh Scott is awesome! Thanks for sharing this intriguing video Rob!
so when you have a quarter million in klons you can achieve your average shoegaze tone
not enough reverb for shoegaze
*trv kvlt Norwegian black metal
😂😂
I think you've got it.
I have a black fender deluxe amp that someone left on my back porch a few years ago the only thing wrong with it was a missing fuse,it has to be forty of fifty years old and is one of the best amps I’ve ever owned.
You know it's about to go down when you see Josh Scott pick up the bass!
This feels like a “this old house” episode. Relaxing and awesome. Do this more 😊
just three guys who love music having a blast. i love the little jam session at the end
One of the only solid body electrics available in that era was the O.W Appleton electric from 1941 which was built in the late 30s. It was the precursor to the Les Paul. Unfortunately the Appleton electric didn't get mass produced but was an exciting era for music and rock n roll. Love this content and talking about what was happening at the time and how different sounds emerged out of necessity. Awesome stuff!
Ironically, the solid-body lap and pedal steel guitars actually predate hollow-body guitars. The first commercially successful electric guitar was the Rickenbacker "Frying Pan" lap steel from the early 30's. The first electric spanish guitar was also made by Rickenbacker, and had a semi-solid bakelite body and bolt-on neck, but hollowbodies were much more successful before the introduction of the Esquire and Les Paul
I honestly can't think of a cooler place to hang out
This was massively insightful! Thank you for this!
The jam section was actually unbelievably sick, I'd love to hear more of that somewhere
Scotty Moore (Elvis' guitarist) actually traded in his Telecaster in 1953 for a Gibson ES 295.
Solid body guitars were an important advancement and all, but it's a stretch to credit them for making Elvis happen.
I was thinking the same thing when he said that. Also, Telecasters are strident. They just hurt your ears if you are in the room.
Elvis happened because he was Elvis.
Scott Moore was playing mostly clean guitar rockabilly, not heavy metal.
Scotty Moore also had a special amp set up by Sam Phillips that had a tape delay echo unit in place of the reverb.
one of my very fave examples of early overdriven guitar is Barney Kessel's playing on Lew Williams' singles recorded in 1956 "Bop Bop Ba Doo Bop"/"Something I Said" and "Centipede"/"Abracadabra"... it has just a bit of breakup, nothing massive, but it still gives it an edge
It’s so cool seeing all the classic equipment.
The guitar is simply an extension of his soul
I always forget how technically skilled rob is until I see shit like this that jam was insane
... was it though?
@@Cowboybebub yep
@@Cowboybebub thats what im sayin compared to the other stuff he's done
The final jam just sounded like a cheep plug in with nothing but high mids turned on. Fantastic.
Can't believe I wasn't subbed until now. Always appreciate your videos Rob! Pretty cool that you made a serious over abundance of crazily priced klons sound like something brand new. Years ago when i ran sound at a local bar, this was the equivalent to a guy playing full balls through a super dirty half-stack with a shoddy acoustic! You guys pulled it off a bit better i think!
That was Epic!
Please more!
Thank you 🎸🤘🤘
What an unexpected pleasure it was to click on this!
In my job as a telecommunications tech distortion was detected, measured, and to be eliminated. Meanwhile, at home, I was creating it.
That jam was LIT!
I love when guitar playing is fun! Thanks for that!
i love your channel rob never stop making music man
I believe on the first Montrose album, Ronnie Montrose used a 40 watt Fender Bandmaster amp cranked all the way up for songs like Rock Candy and Make It Last and so on. So awesome!!!
I had an Atlantic Records anniversary record which had a very early blues recording from the late 1940s. The amp was heavily in distortion, and I can tell you that it sounded incredible. Ironically, I'll bet that they were freaking out that their amp was sounding so "bad", but to our ears it was a very sweet sound.
Otherwise, some of the nicest distortion I've ever made myself came from a cute lil' Princeton, turned all the way up to eleven. In fact, it produced a very similar sound to that of the 1940's recording.
I'd sure love to own one of those....What an amazing tube warm sound....Sounds awesome mic'd ......
Holy shit! I didn’t know these went back that far. I had a much larger 90’s fender tweed amp. I miss it.
That final jam sounded like an early cut of RATM, was getting strong Morello feels from that
that last jam is the song "bookmobile" by first of october (which rob is 1/2 of). when they were writing the original song they took a lot of inspiration from ratm and morello which really shows in this version of it!
This ties in nicely with the first electric guitar video.
Video that goes STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. WE LOVE IT!
this was incredible thank you for the content
During that Jam session I was just thinking "hey Chuck it's Marvin, Marvin Berry! You know that new sound you been looking for? Well listen to this!" 😂
I have a 1953 Magnatone amp that’s pretty much the same size and sounds seriously similar to this amp! I love the tones I can pull from it! I may or may not grab a Klon clone someday. I don’t care about chasing the same sounds that others have.
LOL I LOVE it! Ya'll made me young again. Thank you. Hilarious.
I’d just love a video of Josh giving us a whole in depth tour of that storage at the start
250,000$ worth of gear goin from Blues to Slayer.
I have got to admit I liked the jam a lot better than the tone alone would have warranted ;D
love the first of october songs
Very cool and exciting to hear folks that know
drum compression also had a massive impact on rock and roll
I read a great book about Buddy Holly and apparently he used a Deluxe in the studio but was never allowed to turn it up to the point of distortion on the recordings. For live shows, he needed more volume so he played through a Bassman and cranked it all the way up. The only real live recordings of Buddy are TV appearances where he again wasn’t allowed to turn up too loud so one time I played some Buddy Holly songs on a ‘50s Stratocaster through a tweed Bassman cranked and it sounded AWESOME! It’s a shame that live recordings were practically nonexistent back then.
It's nice to see that the Bookmobile has been given such generous funding by the Blues Proctologist.
That amp and that Kay are so fine! The amp sounds so fine!
18:50 - Rob goes Buckethead.
Nice to see
Amazing how old this tech and execution is
I love the vids with these 2 so much
that last solo into the tapping was epic man
Crazy 😊. There's no pedal tone on the planet worth that kind of money. Fun to watch though.
You don't need to pay that much money anyways. Klon's pedals have all been reverse engineered, and you can make one yourself for less than $100.
@@lylechipperson3407 probably less than that
Sometimes I get wrapped up in the video and momentarily forget you can shred and when the session starts it just makes me smile \m/
Such a good veid!, Cant wait for 1st of october!
was so confused at first but of course rob was playing a bunch of foo riffs, he’s two months fresh after the last album. so excited for this year’s one!
that jam with the drums like 4 minutes in sounds like something the backseat lovers would play
"the call is coming from inside the house". never a truer work
think that tone at 1:00 is my favorite ive ever heard, also love how half of the video is just Klon Lore
listen to title fight, they have this tone, the song GMT is a good place to start
Pretty cool pieces you got there!
Great video! Regarding when the Klon became popular, I think Kenny Wayne Shepherd had something to do with it, because he had been all about the Tube Screamer (for obvious reasons), but I think by the late 90's, he had started using a Klon. He mentioned the pedal in an interview with a major guitar magazine. There were probably others, but he was the first fairly well-known artist I heard of who was using one by that era.