Logitech G13 has, by far, been my favorite for over a decade. Really disappointed they no longer make it especially since one of my keys is getting a bit sticky. Looking at the Azeron now but it is a bit pricey and seems too cobbled together. I'll wait to see if they come out with a solid product at a better price point. meanwhile, I guess I'll keep dealing with the sticky key. Thanks for the video!
I have owned about 4 Azeron Cyborgs to date and ordered my last one as recently as 3 weeks ago. While I LOVE the setup and the customization, the CHEAP plastic parts and CONSTANT adjustment of the screws, RUINED the experince for me. EVERY single one I have owned, has BROKEN because of CHEAP plastic parts. The Logitech G13 was the BEST one handed keyapd that was EVER developed. I don't know why Logitech stopped making them.
I have the issue with Tartarus keys "sticking" until you press them again. This is related to synapse. They have known about it for years and still no fix. Never Razer again.
Tartarus is plagued with stuck keys, not the mechamembrane and the pro ... it is a software/firmware problem and Razer does not seem to care the least bit.
Not sure how this top 5 list can be accurate, the Logitech G13 has been discontinued for several years, the link to Amazon for this keypad is for used ones.
I was going to post the same. The G13 has been gone for quite some time now. Saw the offering on Amazon for USD 450. Yeah...no ;) I use a G13 for photo/video editing(I'm a professional photographer) and absolutely love it. I bought a Tartarus v2 as a back for when the G13 finally decides to die. LOL
I have the #2 on the list RZv2 and is a pain the app, lot of issues whit COD MWIII side to side not working randomly and always after wind restart because is recognized as a controller
So as someone who has used the Tarturus v2 here my opinion if Synapse wasent so damn glitchy aka disconnecting you mid game play or a key getting virtually stuck to the point you have to reset your pc to fix it then it would be my number one for comfort and easy key programming. Synapse is the problem not the keypad. Im trying out the red dragon i just dont like the flatness of it or lack of programming. (Still new to it so opinion could change.) i want to try the Azeron i just cant justify the price
Wait until you get to about the year mark, and have a d-pad switch fault out. I had no idea how prevalent of an issue that was for the Tartarus v2 until mine died last night. Looking through the Razer forums, this has been a known issue for more than 6 years, without ever being addressed...
the Razer products have two problems: 1. they're too light of a device, so they don't stay put in position, 2. the dpad is horrible and nearly unusable. the keyboard ones don't have a thumb joystick/dpad and at least one of them is not configurable, so ... ok boomer? the Azeron is really the best design, but the switches are flimsy and break easy - bewarned! the G13 is the classic. it still required replacement pretty often, but that wasn't too big a deal with they were sub $40, but those days are gone due to them being discontinued. it's wild no gaming company can solve this problem reliably. there's a gold mine waiting to be tapped
Not enough buttons on the tartarus (or any other with a thumbstick)? Do you realize, if you keybind the thumbstick to shift, ctrl, alt, and one of youre choice, then you have 4x times more buttons, making it enough for mmo-s too. Binding the thumbstick to w a s d is just waisting the opportunities. Only for fps? Hell no.
That defeats the purpose of using a keypad altogether. The benefit of a keypad is that you can move by only using your thumb; so you can use all of your abilities while moving, without a pause. Also you bind the joystick to the arrow keys, not WASD. For MMOs I recommend rebinding the control, shift and tab keys to regular key inputs, and then bind modifiers, tab, and space to your MMO mouse, that way you have 19-20 keys at your finger tips (depending on modal), plus modifiers. I’m using the orbweaver which has 20 buttons so in total I could have 80 keybinds. The mouse I’m using is a Logitech g600 mmo mouse and I can the top row of bottoms bound to control, shift, and alt and the second row bound to tab, space, and * You’re welcome
I have an orb weaver and its thumb buttons broke within a year. All razor software sucks. I did like how it had 8 modes.......... I had a set up i liked but the unit is pretty flimsy .......... i made mine sturdy with lots of tape and duct tape........... also the adhesive on the rubber pad goes after after a few months and leaves a guey mess after the rubber pads slide off............... Razor is all marketing ........... there actual products are pretty un reliable and have poor mechanical design.
I have a orbweaver. Have had it since 2019. Ha e used it every day all day, heavy gaming use. It's still going strong, only problem is the button I use for shift is spotty in response lately. Very sad my only option is a Tartarus Pro instead of a Orbweaver v2.
I love the Razer orbweaver. I've purchased 2 since I got the original and I haven't found anything to replace it. The Mechanical keys are a must for me. I might have to settle for the Tartarus Pro pretty soon tho as my orbweaver is wearing out and not really easy to replace.
I just ventured into using my keybaord to game and I'm fairly overwhelmed by the flat keys on my gaming pc. I really want a Tartarus pro, but I'm hesitant to invest in something I may simply just suck at using.
I'd get a tartarus if it wasn't for the joystick not being a full analog one from what I've read, and instead 8 directional. So I guess I'll have to look at an azeron. (Also finding a G13 seems impossible nowadays)
The tartarus is the only one i like, and it's for one reason only. I can use that dpad as 4 additional buttons my thumb can use. Sadly i can't play mobas or mmos without it now :(
Hello. Can you tell me something. If i play only Warzone (this is reason why i want buy Redragon DITI K585 for my PS4), i dont need then converter ? For PS4+Warzone i just need plug in and play ? And what Redragon mouse is best option for DITI K828? Sniper M908 or Impact M801 Thanksssss
Seems there is nothing like the G13. Can't even remember how long I've had it but it's dying. Bought the Razer Tartarus and returned it the next day for how awful the feel and position of the thumbstick is.
Wolf King keyboard. The key size and shapes were well thought out allowing you to reach the keys easier. It's circular design fits the shape of your hand. Too bad they don't make them any more. After 10 years mine is just starting to become unreliable.
wonderful, exactly what I was looking. Can the RED DRAGON keys be re mapped and can each KEY be individually RGB ? some keypad have rgb but can't be individually light customised.
NOTE TO ANYONE THINKING OF GETING THE RAZER TARTARUS KEY PADS: it has had an issue with sticking keys for it's entire manufacturing time and this issue still has not been fixed it is a software bug within synaps the only way to get around it is to buy i whole different software called rewasd do not buy the tartarus key pads if you don't want to pay for razers crappy software issues they have not fix for years
I highly advise against a logitech g13 i have one and still use it but its so un ergonomic and painful to use for long gaming sessions. Not to mention it has massive heavy membrane keys that are painful to spam for any real period of time. Anything is less painful than the g13 imo but its great for macros and single use keybinds for say streaming. Not to mention your likely gonna be shelling out over 90 usd to get a dirty beat up decade old piece of hardware.
actually, my shoulder hurts on my mouse arm so I am looking into these since they are smaller and if they have a joystick I am interested. If not, I mean, I have a keyboard, and any modern keyboard supports macros and has, imagine this, keys!
using the razer tartarus v2 is pissing me off cause the d-pad keeps breaking, the d-pad from the v1 was better for that but i do like the size and the key customizable options... razer just needs to stop using that d-pad set up. kinda wish CORSAIR made a game pad like it.
You are literally in my head. My D-pad on my v2 died last night, and support said that I was 2 weeks past my warranty date. Everything else I use is Corsair. Get to it, guys!
@@vexial12 Why not? It's just half a keyboard. Thre thing about the Tartarus is that they keys being ortholinear (arranged in a grid) rather than the stupid way they're normally set, which was done to keep typewriters from jamming, can make WASD a little more comfortable. Multiple thumb buttons are good to have too. Meanwhile the ReDragon is no more ergonomic than a regular keyboard, but you're getting way more keys.
@@colbyboucher6391 where is the space bar? Seems like you can't play things like mmorpgs or even games with destiny which is first person but requires buttons. Idk. I just bought a gaming laptop for my traveling job and need a keyboard
The Azeorn is a GREAT concept with GREAT customization, BUT all in all, it is GARBAGE. The CHEAP plastic parts that they are made of, CONSTANTLY break and the screws used for adjustments, need CONSTANT tightening. I bought 4 of them throughout the last 2 years and they ALL BROKE. At about 230 dollars a pop, they are DEF NOT worth it. I went to Azeron after Logitech stopped making the BEST PC keypad EVER, the G13.
I like the BUT G13 is too expensive and not in production, $300 is to much to pay if it breaks in a year. If logitech rereleases it at a lower price point i might consider it. ............ I have a razor orbweavor and the both thumb buttons broke. I really do not like razor software and its requirement to login.
@@ttrev007 I tried an Azeron cyborg and it broke in a year ... i may go back to a key board... all these keypads are complex and by the time you set up and get used it they break
Stop listing the Logitech G13! Why does everyone list this still? it is no longer in production and not supported by the latest Logitech software. Yes this is the (closest) to PERFECT gaming keypad. However, if it's not in production, damn you Logitech, it's not an actual contender. To all the other reviewers out there, TAKE THIS OFF YOU LIST! Everyone else please keep emailing and posting on Logitech forums to update and bring back the G13 (newer version number). I know after all these years it probably won't help, but it couldn't hurt.
Absolutely despise the Tartarus Pro. The stick is TERRIBLE. The keys feel dreadful. Also have a Spiltfish Fragchuck which feels so cheap & dated - and doesn't always work as it's supposed to. Splitfish's customer support is TERRIBLE. They never replied to ONE email or Facebook message (I've sent about 20). Azeron Cyborg on the way. Fingers crossed.
If it was the best it would have sold enough for them to keep making them. When they came out i bought one and used it for a week before tossing it in a corner to gather dust and went back to my old Belkin Nostromo (before they sold it to razer). I've now been using an Azeron for about a year and it's the best thing ever.
It does look best and in general logitech software is good and they have reliable units. That said it way to expensive for some that will break in a year or two of hard gaming (all units from all manufactors break). I am seeing prices of 300 to 500 for new units since it is discontinued.
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Logitech G13 has, by far, been my favorite for over a decade. Really disappointed they no longer make it especially since one of my keys is getting a bit sticky. Looking at the Azeron now but it is a bit pricey and seems too cobbled together. I'll wait to see if they come out with a solid product at a better price point. meanwhile, I guess I'll keep dealing with the sticky key. Thanks for the video!
I have owned about 4 Azeron Cyborgs to date and ordered my last one as recently as 3 weeks ago. While I LOVE the setup and the customization, the CHEAP plastic parts and CONSTANT adjustment of the screws, RUINED the experince for me. EVERY single one I have owned, has BROKEN because of CHEAP plastic parts. The Logitech G13 was the BEST one handed keyapd that was EVER developed. I don't know why Logitech stopped making them.
This is the first time I think I've heard someone call Synapse good software.
I just got it and it’s not bad
@@Mikewright143 no it's not bad. It's SHIT!!!
@@yarbles66 no it's not SHIT. it's the worst!!!
@@sorryididntsub2596 even worse than splitfish. I own both sadly. I also own an Azeron Cyborg and it's fucking incredible
I have the issue with Tartarus keys "sticking" until you press them again. This is related to synapse. They have known about it for years and still no fix. Never Razer again.
Tartarus is plagued with stuck keys, not the mechamembrane and the pro ... it is a software/firmware problem and Razer does not seem to care the least bit.
Not sure how this top 5 list can be accurate, the Logitech G13 has been discontinued for several years, the link to Amazon for this keypad is for used ones.
I was going to post the same. The G13 has been gone for quite some time now. Saw the offering on Amazon for USD 450. Yeah...no ;)
I use a G13 for photo/video editing(I'm a professional photographer) and absolutely love it. I bought a Tartarus v2 as a back for when the G13 finally decides to die. LOL
I have the #2 on the list RZv2 and is a pain the app, lot of issues whit COD MWIII side to side not working randomly and always after wind restart because is recognized as a controller
So as someone who has used the Tarturus v2 here my opinion if Synapse wasent so damn glitchy aka disconnecting you mid game play or a key getting virtually stuck to the point you have to reset your pc to fix it then it would be my number one for comfort and easy key programming. Synapse is the problem not the keypad. Im trying out the red dragon i just dont like the flatness of it or lack of programming. (Still new to it so opinion could change.) i want to try the Azeron i just cant justify the price
Wait until you get to about the year mark, and have a d-pad switch fault out. I had no idea how prevalent of an issue that was for the Tartarus v2 until mine died last night. Looking through the Razer forums, this has been a known issue for more than 6 years, without ever being addressed...
the Razer products have two problems: 1. they're too light of a device, so they don't stay put in position, 2. the dpad is horrible and nearly unusable. the keyboard ones don't have a thumb joystick/dpad and at least one of them is not configurable, so ... ok boomer? the Azeron is really the best design, but the switches are flimsy and break easy - bewarned! the G13 is the classic. it still required replacement pretty often, but that wasn't too big a deal with they were sub $40, but those days are gone due to them being discontinued. it's wild no gaming company can solve this problem reliably. there's a gold mine waiting to be tapped
Not enough buttons on the tartarus (or any other with a thumbstick)? Do you realize, if you keybind the thumbstick to shift, ctrl, alt, and one of youre choice, then you have 4x times more buttons, making it enough for mmo-s too. Binding the thumbstick to w a s d is just waisting the opportunities. Only for fps? Hell no.
That defeats the purpose of using a keypad altogether. The benefit of a keypad is that you can move by only using your thumb; so you can use all of your abilities while moving, without a pause.
Also you bind the joystick to the arrow keys, not WASD.
For MMOs I recommend rebinding the control, shift and tab keys to regular key inputs, and then bind modifiers, tab, and space to your MMO mouse, that way you have 19-20 keys at your finger tips (depending on modal), plus modifiers. I’m using the orbweaver which has 20 buttons so in total I could have 80 keybinds. The mouse I’m using is a Logitech g600 mmo mouse and I can the top row of bottoms bound to control, shift, and alt and the second row bound to tab, space, and *
You’re welcome
the g13 is not available in most shops for years now. pretty irritating it still pops up in several reviews such as this one...
dont forget about the belkin n52 still works
I use the Razer Orbweaver. I wish they would release an updated version.
Bad news man, razer have discontinued the orbweaver..... Sucks!!
I have an orb weaver and its thumb buttons broke within a year. All razor software sucks. I did like how it had 8 modes.......... I had a set up i liked but the unit is pretty flimsy .......... i made mine sturdy with lots of tape and duct tape........... also the adhesive on the rubber pad goes after after a few months and leaves a guey mess after the rubber pads slide off............... Razor is all marketing ........... there actual products are pretty un reliable and have poor mechanical design.
@@ChookyChuck Mine broke after 7 years and only the 14 button stopped responding. It was really strong
I have a orbweaver. Have had it since 2019. Ha e used it every day all day, heavy gaming use. It's still going strong, only problem is the button I use for shift is spotty in response lately. Very sad my only option is a Tartarus Pro instead of a Orbweaver v2.
I love the Razer orbweaver. I've purchased 2 since I got the original and I haven't found anything to replace it. The Mechanical keys are a must for me. I might have to settle for the Tartarus Pro pretty soon tho as my orbweaver is wearing out and not really easy to replace.
How is the Azeron? It looks awesome, but I'm concerned about its durability since its 3d printing.
I'm using the Diti k585 for my laptop, i love it, is very comfort and helps me to not to damage my laptop keys playing.
"Rewasd software + Azeron keypad" and you can have literally hundreds of buttons with a mouse in one hand
I just ventured into using my keybaord to game and I'm fairly overwhelmed by the flat keys on my gaming pc. I really want a Tartarus pro, but I'm hesitant to invest in something I may simply just suck at using.
my g13 stoped working properly, half key dsont work at all, any suggestion on drivers for 2023???
I'd get a tartarus if it wasn't for the joystick not being a full analog one from what I've read, and instead 8 directional. So I guess I'll have to look at an azeron.
(Also finding a G13 seems impossible nowadays)
howdy, did you actually get an Azeron? And if you did what was your experience with it?
The tartarus is the only one i like, and it's for one reason only. I can use that dpad as 4 additional buttons my thumb can use. Sadly i can't play mobas or mmos without it now :(
By my understanding, I thought the g13 was no longer supported.
Hello. Can you tell me something. If i play only Warzone (this is reason why i want buy Redragon DITI K585 for my PS4), i dont need then converter ? For PS4+Warzone i just need plug in and play ? And what Redragon mouse is best option for DITI K828?
Sniper M908 or Impact M801
Thanksssss
How was this video posted in 2021?!
Azeron Classic really looks Classic!
The Tartarus hump is just too much for may short palm and finger to reach over.
Seems there is nothing like the G13. Can't even remember how long I've had it but it's dying. Bought the Razer Tartarus and returned it the next day for how awful the feel and position of the thumbstick is.
Wolf King keyboard. The key size and shapes were well thought out allowing you to reach the keys easier. It's circular design fits the shape of your hand. Too bad they don't make them any more. After 10 years mine is just starting to become unreliable.
wonderful, exactly what I was looking.
Can the RED DRAGON keys be re mapped and can each KEY be individually RGB ?
some keypad have rgb but can't be individually light customised.
NOTE TO ANYONE THINKING OF GETING THE RAZER TARTARUS KEY PADS:
it has had an issue with sticking keys for it's entire manufacturing time and this issue still has not been fixed it is a software bug within synaps the only way to get around it is to buy i whole different software called rewasd do not buy the tartarus key pads if you don't want to pay for razers crappy software issues they have not fix for years
I highly advise against a logitech g13 i have one and still use it but its so un ergonomic and painful to use for long gaming sessions.
Not to mention it has massive heavy membrane keys that are painful to spam for any real period of time.
Anything is less painful than the g13 imo but its great for macros and single use keybinds for say streaming.
Not to mention your likely gonna be shelling out over 90 usd to get a dirty beat up decade old piece of hardware.
Holy shit. I thought I was stroking out when the Azeron came up.
actually, my shoulder hurts on my mouse arm so I am looking into these since they are smaller and if they have a joystick I am interested. If not, I mean, I have a keyboard, and any modern keyboard supports macros and has, imagine this, keys!
Azeron all the way. Nr1+.
Razer Tartarus Pro full off errors.
Logitech G13 end off life no software support was very nice back then way back then.
Logitech G13, it's the best
Tartarus looks like sth designed in the 80's by someone with jean shorts and a mullet.
using the razer tartarus v2 is pissing me off cause the d-pad keeps breaking, the d-pad from the v1 was better for that but i do like the size and the key customizable options... razer just needs to stop using that d-pad set up. kinda wish CORSAIR made a game pad like it.
You are literally in my head. My D-pad on my v2 died last night, and support said that I was 2 weeks past my warranty date. Everything else I use is Corsair. Get to it, guys!
Probably should've mentioned that the G13 isn't manufactured any more.
Azeron does not have RGB
im so upset, i cant get my g13 to work anymore :( i have loved this damned thing for what a decade now?
Currently, I’m using the Razer Tartarus Pro as my primary keypad for FPS games, and the ReDragon K585 as a secondary, mostly for RPGs or MOBA games
So is the Tartarus not getting that problem any more where the software somehow made keys "stick" all the time?
@@colbyboucher6391 I don’t use the software, it’s a waste of time lol
Still works good as is
Can you play fps on the redragon?
@@vexial12 Why not? It's just half a keyboard.
Thre thing about the Tartarus is that they keys being ortholinear (arranged in a grid) rather than the stupid way they're normally set, which was done to keep typewriters from jamming, can make WASD a little more comfortable. Multiple thumb buttons are good to have too. Meanwhile the ReDragon is no more ergonomic than a regular keyboard, but you're getting way more keys.
@@colbyboucher6391 where is the space bar? Seems like you can't play things like mmorpgs or even games with destiny which is first person but requires buttons. Idk. I just bought a gaming laptop for my traveling job and need a keyboard
Logitech G13
This wqs kinda late because i just recently bought a keyboard 😅
How can a video released 2 years ago be for 2023?
For 2021
Nice video
The Azeorn is a GREAT concept with GREAT customization, BUT all in all, it is GARBAGE. The CHEAP plastic parts that they are made of, CONSTANTLY break and the screws used for adjustments, need CONSTANT tightening. I bought 4 of them throughout the last 2 years and they ALL BROKE. At about 230 dollars a pop, they are DEF NOT worth it. I went to Azeron after Logitech stopped making the BEST PC keypad EVER, the G13.
i am satisfy with this products i will recommended to all thanks...
Using HORI
I like the BUT G13 is too expensive and not in production, $300 is to much to pay if it breaks in a year. If logitech rereleases it at a lower price point i might consider it.
............ I have a razor orbweavor and the both thumb buttons broke. I really do not like razor software and its requirement to login.
I am depressed its now on sale $450, the cable is finally failing on mine after about 10 years.
@@ttrev007 I tried an Azeron cyborg and it broke in a year ... i may go back to a key board... all these keypads are complex and by the time you set up and get used it they break
G13 is 🐐
most popular and expensive gaming keypads
Stop listing the Logitech G13! Why does everyone list this still? it is no longer in production and not supported by the latest Logitech software. Yes this is the (closest) to PERFECT gaming keypad. However, if it's not in production, damn you Logitech, it's not an actual contender. To all the other reviewers out there, TAKE THIS OFF YOU LIST! Everyone else please keep emailing and posting on Logitech forums to update and bring back the G13 (newer version number). I know after all these years it probably won't help, but it couldn't hurt.
Thank you, this video is good for me, my nephew will meet soon. I'll share this video with you so you can tell me which one you would like.
The Logitech G13 should not be on this list as its no longer produced.
Idk
The Logitech is $511 that’s the price of a console
I bought azeron keypad but its so shitty. not recommend for fps at all. This joystick thing is a joke for FPS. I using razer tartarus v2 now
If somebody wants buy used azeron from me i will happily trade it!
Absolutely despise the Tartarus Pro. The stick is TERRIBLE. The keys feel dreadful. Also have a Spiltfish Fragchuck which feels so cheap & dated - and doesn't always work as it's supposed to. Splitfish's customer support is TERRIBLE. They never replied to ONE email or Facebook message (I've sent about 20). Azeron Cyborg on the way. Fingers crossed.
Logitech g13 doesn't look that good
But do like their other products
Furst
Nothing like a *DISHONEST* reviewer that re-labels his 2 year old video to '2023' just so he can get better seo..
👎👎waaaay down!
Paid content 😂
Everyones first till they refresh the page
Logitech G13 is the best key pad hands down!!!. All the rest are trash!!!
If it was the best it would have sold enough for them to keep making them. When they came out i bought one and used it for a week before tossing it in a corner to gather dust and went back to my old Belkin Nostromo (before they sold it to razer). I've now been using an Azeron for about a year and it's the best thing ever.
It does look best and in general logitech software is good and they have reliable units. That said it way to expensive for some that will break in a year or two of hard gaming (all units from all manufactors break). I am seeing prices of 300 to 500 for new units since it is discontinued.
Well, I'm glad for my G510 is still working.