disagree. should have quit a spin sooner to stay under $25k limit at the time to be able to come back next day. that would have been smartest thing to do
but like he said, no guarantees he wins tomorrow. He could have cost himself a few thousand dollars and recovering $9600 in 3 spins would be tough if he whammied. Plus the odds say you should hit a whammy about once every 6 spins, he took 7 spins so the odds were starting to catch up to him and I think he knew that.
Was there ever a case where everyone whammied out? I had it happen once playing Curt King's old PC game with some friends. I always wondered how they would have handled that.
@@marcpower4167 Whammying out is never a win (as a player with $0 wins against a Whammied-out player), so if all three players Whammied out, I'm assuming there would be no champ and three new players would appear on the next show. However, it never happened on the show itself, AFAIK.
@@ThunderFist1978 this was the only instance in its 3 year run he played against the "house". Crazy as it sounds, there was more instances where per say money was involved but one or both players having 3 whammies and limited spins left, even down to 1 sometimes and most times the player catching up to or being arrogant kept going and whammied out, giving the win to the opposing player. But never 2 players whammied out in round 2 giving player 3 complete control of his or her destiny. In another episode however a 2nd occurrence did occur where eventually 2 people did whammy out, oddly enough player 1 whamming out early in round 2, player 2 and 3 playing on, player 2 which was the champ in that show had money with 2 whammies, against player 3 who had 0, was arrogant and spun a whammy giving her 3. But now with 3 whammies and only 1 spin left, all she had to do was hit anything other than a whammy to win, but whammies out, and player 3 won with 0. Thats as close it got to playing against the house as it got before this episode. Player 3 had no money but since she had no spins, and player 2 of course whammies, she could not play on. Its a rare feat indeed.
Basically, in a "you vs the house" scenario, you keep taking your spins until you use them all, you decide to stop, or until you hit 4 whammies. As long as you don't get 4 whammies in this scenario, you come back, even if you won $0.
For a show that was canceled by the network after just a few years, it sure has done well in syndication. In fact, if the network had known how well it was going to do they would have kept it around.
Game shows are absolutely about knowing when to hold em and when to fold em. He folded em exactly where he needed to. Never let the whammy win, it’s awkward when the winner’s camera is focused on a whammy marker. That happened once on “Whammy” and that’s what we don’t need happening again 😂
Sonya, you're in the same situation where Mark was. You got three whammies, one spin and $0. One more whammy and not only you'll also be out of the game but Kevin would win automatically but it doesn't mean Kevin automatically wins because Kevin would be the only one in the game and would have to play against the house.
After Mark and Sonya whammied out, it was Kevin against the world... He hit some nice spots on the board, got some big money, and he decided to just quit while he was ahead. He's the anti-Michael Larson. If you don't know that name, look it up. He's probably more famous than Kevin.
My mother enjoyed watching Press Your Luck three weeks after we move to Scarborough Ontario before she goes to work and take me next door to Sam's house.
One of the first eps with the 3rd (and final) board sound, and the new Whammy slides (albeit looking off kilter, but this was fixed about a week later).
The odd thing was that the "triple whammy out" rule never had to be employed because, of all the things that happened on Press Your Luck during it's 750+ episode run, that's one thing that NEVER happened. There were times, like this one, where the first two players whammied out and the third player played against the house, and on at least one occasion, the third player actually got a third whammy, but there never was a case where all three players whammied out in the same game. I actually hoped that, even if the third player didn't whammy out that they'd put all 12 whammy cards up after the such a game ended, but they never did.
What you're referring to, the final player hitting a whammy on his final spin to create a 3-way tie at $0, happened at least twice. But that's something totally different than all three players whammying out in the same game by getting four whammies. There was never an occasion where all three players got four whammies in the same game.
Believe it or not, there was one occasion where the first two players whammied out and the third player not only got a third whammy, but also continued on with three whammies himself. If I remember right, he got $1,000 on that spin and then quit, but that was the only real chance that the third player would follow the first two and whammy out of the game. (Frankly, I wish when that happened, they would have put up the fourth whammy card after the game to show all 12 whammies up, even though that 12th whammy card would have only been unofficial.)
There was another episode with jacklynn, matt, and mark. Both jacklynn and Matt hit four whammies and mark played against the house. Mark almost got four whammies but got three whammies took another spin won a prize worth 1300 hundred and retired
I think I could figure out what was in his head.... he had his priorities straight, he made it known that he (obviously) wanted to be a retired champ on the show (I believe it still was the original $25K limit at the time) &, since he was playing against the house at that point, he clearly knew how much he had to win during this episode to do so he took enough spins to win enough & was wise enough to stop at the point that he did
Sounds like they pitched up the Big Board jingle. This is probably at the time they added more patterns to the board, unless you're talking about Michal Larson being in that position when his game was taped. Mind you I was way too young to remember if I watched Press Your Luck with my parents. I was only 1 when the show first aired. Even watching re-runs on USA Network in the 90's, I picked up on a pattern. I'm positive they fixed it for the ABC version. Though an extra spin spin-off happened, and the champion had over $100,000 fairly won dollars at the end of the round. They added a space to the board called Take the lead +1 spin in the ABC revival to keep runaway games from happening too.
I get Kevin's logic 100%... However, I'd stop with the $7000+ as $24,000+ is very nice, and I'd just like to play one more game- win or lose!! His final spin prize in Hawaii though is equisite. I always would consider Hawaii the ultimate trip!
Alright I need someone that has watched this show religiously to answer this question How many times has a contestant been put in this position and they did what the champion did where he just "stopped" after winning a certain amount of money? This must be a rare ending if this is the only one I ever saw that's for sure
It wasn't *that* rare - it happened something like...six, seven, eight times total during the show's run. This was either the 2nd or 3rd time. First was in May of '84.
Ok Jim says at 1:19 that if she whammies out “that doesn’t mean he wins automatically, he still has to play”. But he didn’t have to play until he uses all his spins?
He made it clear. after landing on the Maui trip, that his overall goal was to be a retired champ &, obviously, the trip was worth enough to put him over that mark
I dont understand his logic here. Had he came back the next day he had a chance to win more money. But even if he lost the next day, he still gets to keep his previous winnings no?
Yes, he would get to keep his winnings. But factor this as he said. He was near the winnings cap of 25,000 at the time. He knew though full well, had he have whammied. He would need X amount of spins to get back up to 10k, so if he whammied after that spin, only 3 spins left. And the odds were against him, at even getting back up to that total or beating it. So by him getting to 9k, he at least assured himself retirement right then and there. So him stopping was the logical move then.
Haha, I've been a part of game show auditions and they generally WANT contestants to energetic and unrealistically excitable, so I thought these constestants weren't over the top enough! I do agree what enthusiasm they did have was definitely inorganic!
Yeah but you heard what he said here. If he had he might not have won the next day. So his logic was pretty sound about quitting while ahead. Plus he got that trip in the bargain. It was a smart move. Note even the player who Whammied out next to him shook his hand afterwards. I've seen many players on shows including PYL who should have quit while they were ahead.
No. I think if the other two players whammy out, he can return as champion with $0 as long as he doesn't whammy out. On Jeopardy, you have to have at least $1 to return. I've seen PYL contestants come back with $0, but have seen on Jeopardy where all three contestants finish with $0 not return.
Actually at least once in 1986 it did. All 3 contestants returned after they all got whammies. Not 4 of them mind you but all 3 had no money left after the game ended. So they came back for a rematch.
That makes no sense and would add no benefit to the game. You can pass your spins at any time in a normal situation, there's no reason to harm a player who's playing by himself when he wants to pass his spins to end the game.
donald paluga Why would've he done that?! That's stupid for 2 reasons: 1) As Peter said, he was over the $25K limit to retire & 2) BOTH of his opponents Whammied out by then!
too all the people saying he quit when he should have, im sorry but you are dead wrong. the smartest move was to quit before he got over the $25k limit at the time and would have been able to come back another day.
DAMN , That's intelligence like I have never seen !!! He wasn't greedy, He knew when to Stop. That's intelligence.
disagree. should have quit a spin sooner to stay under $25k limit at the time to be able to come back next day. that would have been smartest thing to do
but like he said, no guarantees he wins tomorrow. He could have cost himself a few thousand dollars and recovering $9600 in 3 spins would be tough if he whammied.
Plus the odds say you should hit a whammy about once every 6 spins, he took 7 spins so the odds were starting to catch up to him and I think he knew that.
@@Mike-hf8kq He did not want to come back for a third day. He knew when to quit. Smart man.
He did the right thing. I agreed with everything that he said.
Damn good thinking, Kevin.
in all the years I've been watching clips of this show I had no idea this was a possible outcome.
Was there ever a case where everyone whammied out? I had it happen once playing Curt King's old PC game with some friends. I always wondered how they would have handled that.
@@marcpower4167 Whammying out is never a win (as a player with $0 wins against a Whammied-out player), so if all three players Whammied out, I'm assuming there would be no champ and three new players would appear on the next show. However, it never happened on the show itself, AFAIK.
In the ABC version, if two contestants get four Whammies, the one remaining contestant automatically wins and advances to the Bonus Game
That's dumb. They should all lose so we can play a second game.
What a crazy year 1984 was for the producers of this show.
This was aired a month before the "You're Out!" whammy cue would be used, each time a contestant whammied out, among other whammy out cues.
That is my favorite Whammy!
Imagine Michael Larson in that position.
The whammy’s worst nightmare.
He would've probably got to 100,000 and stopped, like he did originally.
Got to love the Against The House episodes.
That 'rule' would later be used as a bonus round in the 2019 reboot version on ABC.
How often did it happen? I never saw it happen before now.
@@ThunderFist1978 this was the only instance in its 3 year run he played against the "house". Crazy as it sounds, there was more instances where per say money was involved but one or both players having 3 whammies and limited spins left, even down to 1 sometimes and most times the player catching up to or being arrogant kept going and whammied out, giving the win to the opposing player. But never 2 players whammied out in round 2 giving player 3 complete control of his or her destiny.
In another episode however a 2nd occurrence did occur where eventually 2 people did whammy out, oddly enough player 1 whamming out early in round 2, player 2 and 3 playing on, player 2 which was the champ in that show had money with 2 whammies, against player 3 who had 0, was arrogant and spun a whammy giving her 3. But now with 3 whammies and only 1 spin left, all she had to do was hit anything other than a whammy to win, but whammies out, and player 3 won with 0. Thats as close it got to playing against the house as it got before this episode. Player 3 had no money but since she had no spins, and player 2 of course whammies, she could not play on. Its a rare feat indeed.
It happened 3 times
It must be wonderful to play against the big board with absolutely no competition.
Basically, in a "you vs the house" scenario, you keep taking your spins until you use them all, you decide to stop, or until you hit 4 whammies. As long as you don't get 4 whammies in this scenario, you come back, even if you won $0.
Of course nobody stops at $0. Unless they are desperate.
Once he got Maui, call off the jam.
Such an underrated game show
Not really.
For a show that was canceled by the network after just a few years, it sure has done well in syndication. In fact, if the network had known how well it was going to do they would have kept it around.
Game shows are absolutely about knowing when to hold em and when to fold em. He folded em exactly where he needed to.
Never let the whammy win, it’s awkward when the winner’s camera is focused on a whammy marker. That happened once on “Whammy” and that’s what we don’t need happening again 😂
"For the first time in the history of Press Your Luck, all three players come back next time, and Joe it's ALL YOUR FAULT!"
There were seven instances where a player played against the house throughout the three year run.
Sonya, you're in the same situation where Mark was. You got three whammies, one spin and $0. One more whammy and not only you'll also be out of the game but Kevin would win automatically but it doesn't mean Kevin automatically wins because Kevin would be the only one in the game and would have to play against the house.
After Mark and Sonya whammied out, it was Kevin against the world...
He hit some nice spots on the board, got some big money, and he decided to just quit while he was ahead.
He's the anti-Michael Larson. If you don't know that name, look it up. He's probably more famous than Kevin.
Was this before or after Michael Larson?
@@erikbunty2016This was after Michael Larson. This episode was from August 17, 1984. Michael Larson’s episode was from June 8 & 11, 1984.
00:33 -It's the Jackhammer whammy - yes yes yes ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!
😂
1:28 the pogo stick whammy should return in the new press your luck
never knew that was an option. thought he'd have to take all his spins.
Jennifer Rodreguiez me neither
Only if he had spins passed to him. Other than that, he can continue.
Since they're all earned spins, he'd usually have the option to pass. So the quit option is basically passing the rest of his spins to the house :)
My mother enjoyed watching Press Your Luck three weeks after we move to Scarborough Ontario before she goes to work and take me next door to Sam's house.
One of the first eps with the 3rd (and final) board sound, and the new Whammy slides (albeit looking off kilter, but this was fixed about a week later).
Speaking of board sound, is there a particular one you like better out of all 3 of them?
PYL2005 #2 and #3.
+johnnysama I was asking because I barely remember #1. But I downloaded #2 as my phone ringer. #2 had a heavier deeper sound. #3 lasted longer
#1 sounded akin to an Atari video game of the era.
“Maui Wowie!” -Bray Wyatt
"Yowie Maui!"- Bray Wyatt
Slot time wins brought me here lol #Chris&Angel
I just noticed that Kevin looks a little like Randolph Mantooth ("Emergency!")
If all three got four whammies, then I assume nobody wins the game!
That 's right then they would have 3 new players so he did make the right choice to stop the game since he is the only one playing.
henry farrell Exactly what I was thinking next!
The odd thing was that the "triple whammy out" rule never had to be employed because, of all the things that happened on Press Your Luck during it's 750+ episode run, that's one thing that NEVER happened. There were times, like this one, where the first two players whammied out and the third player played against the house, and on at least one occasion, the third player actually got a third whammy, but there never was a case where all three players whammied out in the same game. I actually hoped that, even if the third player didn't whammy out that they'd put all 12 whammy cards up after the such a game ended, but they never did.
What you're referring to, the final player hitting a whammy on his final spin to create a 3-way tie at $0, happened at least twice. But that's something totally different than all three players whammying out in the same game by getting four whammies. There was never an occasion where all three players got four whammies in the same game.
Believe it or not, there was one occasion where the first two players whammied out and the third player not only got a third whammy, but also continued on with three whammies himself. If I remember right, he got $1,000 on that spin and then quit, but that was the only real chance that the third player would follow the first two and whammy out of the game. (Frankly, I wish when that happened, they would have put up the fourth whammy card after the game to show all 12 whammies up, even though that 12th whammy card would have only been unofficial.)
R.I.P. Peter Tomarken, Rod Roddy
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"Sonja your out...oh well". LMBO such compassion from the host.
Yeah well, that's how it goes, lol. I mean, they know what happens should they get 4 whammies after all.
@@biruss Lol. That's exactly right. In a way, they do whenever someone hits 4 of them.
As Bill Rafferty once said, "It's off to the land of parting gifts."
Great job by that guy. I was expecting the whammy and no winners
He knew when to walk away.
3:48 like the song says you gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em
Before they raised the limit to $50k
the precurser to the PYL bonus round
There was another episode with jacklynn, matt, and mark. Both jacklynn and Matt hit four whammies and mark played against the house. Mark almost got four whammies but got three whammies took another spin won a prize worth 1300 hundred and retired
we're comin' back and find out what's inside Kevin's head..... right after this. Good luck, Peter!
I think I could figure out what was in his head.... he had his priorities straight, he made it known that he (obviously) wanted to be a retired champ on the show (I believe it still was the original $25K limit at the time) &, since he was playing against the house at that point, he clearly knew how much he had to win during this episode to do so he took enough spins to win enough & was wise enough to stop at the point that he did
Can you guys imagine if Michael Larson got to play the house? With what he knew? X-)
They'd STILL be playing that one game, LOL.
Sounds like they pitched up the Big Board jingle. This is probably at the time they added more patterns to the board, unless you're talking about Michal Larson being in that position when his game was taped. Mind you I was way too young to remember if I watched Press Your Luck with my parents. I was only 1 when the show first aired. Even watching re-runs on USA Network in the 90's, I picked up on a pattern. I'm positive they fixed it for the ABC version. Though an extra spin spin-off happened, and the champion had over $100,000 fairly won dollars at the end of the round.
They added a space to the board called Take the lead +1 spin in the ABC revival to keep runaway games from happening too.
Kevin played that thing smart
I get Kevin's logic 100%... However, I'd stop with the $7000+ as $24,000+ is very nice, and I'd just like to play one more game- win or lose!! His final spin prize in Hawaii though is equisite. I always would consider Hawaii the ultimate trip!
Again, he wanted to go out undefeated and that's what he did. Sometimes you have to know when to walk away. PYL is part skill, part chance.
58 years ago almost to the day.
Your Math is hilarious!
Kevin knew when to quit.
Alright I need someone that has watched this show religiously to answer this question
How many times has a contestant been put in this position and they did what the champion did where he just "stopped" after winning a certain amount of money? This must be a rare ending if this is the only one I ever saw that's for sure
Kevin wanted a pool table. A side note, anyone notice the woman's two spins became one?
Nope. When?
0:45 - Two spins remaining
0:51 - $3000 + One Spin
0:55 - Two spins remaining
1:01 - Whammy
1:15 - One spin remaining
1:25 - Whammy
I remember when this aired. I don't think this ever happened again during the original.
It wasn't *that* rare - it happened something like...six, seven, eight times total during the show's run. This was either the 2nd or 3rd time. First was in May of '84.
I’ve seen this happen only 2 times, this time, and the episode where Tinker gets 4 whammies in a row.
Two people whammied out. That means Kevin is the only one still in the game.
Ok Jim says at 1:19 that if she whammies out “that doesn’t mean he wins automatically, he still has to play”.
But he didn’t have to play until he uses all his spins?
Her spin would be passed, and he would still have to take the single spin.
Just any spins that were passed to him, not any he earned. Because his two opponents whammied out, he was allowed to spin til he decided to quit.
He is smart
It's like the home team still has to bat in the 9th inning, even though they're ahead??!!??
Now I see the down side of being the away team, you get to bat first, but if your ahead, the home team still has to bat.
Basically.
I saw that episode!
Mine too!
This guy didn't even land on a whammy once.
The movie role for Kevin could be played by James Franco.
He does look like Franco. Great point. I remember this episode from the 80's too.
He really should have stopped before hitting that Hawaii trip. Would have been able to come back the next episode then go for broke.
He made it clear. after landing on the Maui trip, that his overall goal was to be a retired champ &, obviously, the trip was worth enough to put him over that mark
i wonder what would have happened if 2 players tied or if all players lost
Two or three players tie: They all win and come back, unless they have four whammies and they're out of the game no matter what.
I never saw this happen on the show ever. Very interesting to see this.
I dont understand his logic here. Had he came back the next day he had a chance to win more money. But even if he lost the next day, he still gets to keep his previous winnings no?
Yes, he would get to keep his winnings. But factor this as he said. He was near the winnings cap of 25,000 at the time. He knew though full well, had he have whammied. He would need X amount of spins to get back up to 10k, so if he whammied after that spin, only 3 spins left. And the odds were against him, at even getting back up to that total or beating it. So by him getting to 9k, he at least assured himself retirement right then and there. So him stopping was the logical move then.
Awww. I'm so sorry Sonya. You're also out of the game.
the feigned enthusiasm is a little over the top
Haha, I've been a part of game show auditions and they generally WANT contestants to energetic and unrealistically excitable, so I thought these constestants weren't over the top enough! I do agree what enthusiasm they did have was definitely inorganic!
The second time I saw 2 contestants whammies out
He should've stopped one spin earlier so he could come back another game.
Yeah but you heard what he said here. If he had he might not have won the next day. So his logic was pretty sound about quitting while ahead. Plus he got that trip in the bargain. It was a smart move. Note even the player who Whammied out next to him shook his hand afterwards. I've seen many players on shows including PYL who should have quit while they were ahead.
Good thing Michael Larson never really had to. He basically owned Studio 33 when he walked in for his game. =P
Ragin' Ronic
Barney the Purple Dinosaur?
Let's stop watching PBS Kids for about 5 years, okay DBP? You sound like you're stoned out on crack cocaine. =P
@@alexfh357 Agreed, the Whammy loves those bitten by the gambling bug.
I'm assuming he would of had to of had at least $1 to win and come back, right?
No. I think if the other two players whammy out, he can return as champion with $0 as long as he doesn't whammy out. On Jeopardy, you have to have at least $1 to return. I've seen PYL contestants come back with $0, but have seen on Jeopardy where all three contestants finish with $0 not return.
Nowadays for Jeopardy! contestants, it's an automatic $1000 if at $0 or in the negative numbers.
Oddly enough this was the only instance in this run of PYL where a player played against the house. Has not happened in this show after that or since.
I've seen an even rarer moment on this show...all contestants whammied out and there was no winner
It never happened. Not even in the 2002 remake, Whammy!
Actually at least once in 1986 it did. All 3 contestants returned after they all got whammies. Not 4 of them mind you but all 3 had no money left after the game ended. So they came back for a rematch.
@@stephenholloway6893 You can "win" with $0, but you can't whammy out and come back next time.
Shoudlve won by defult
He did win. The question was if he wanted to risk being the Champion for money.
Rare, never heard of this show.
This is the worse 2 people hit 4 whammies ever on the history!!!!
And the kicker was, they were in a row.
I forgot how much this game sort of sucked. I wonder how his retirement is going on $25,000...
Should have had the rule amend to where you can ONLY stop if you have three Whammys in that situation
That makes no sense and would add no benefit to the game. You can pass your spins at any time in a normal situation, there's no reason to harm a player who's playing by himself when he wants to pass his spins to end the game.
donald paluga Why would've he done that?! That's stupid for 2 reasons: 1) As Peter said, he was over the $25K limit to retire & 2) BOTH of his opponents Whammied out by then!
Thanks for spoiler arse!!
too all the people saying he quit when he should have, im sorry but you are dead wrong. the smartest move was to quit before he got over the $25k limit at the time and would have been able to come back another day.