The solution is simple. Ask the US to sell oil and gas to Europe at prices cheaper than those offered by Russia. When someone decided to buy from another cheaper supplier, that's just free market at work. Isn't the US pro free market?
Yeah and lets be honest here, will the sanctions hurt Germany more or less than they will hurt the US? There are a surprisingly large amount of German companies in the US that Americans prefer to buy from without even knowing that theyre originally German companies, take Audi or Mercedes as examples, Germany also has large industries for highly specified machines, Germany makes the machine that creates the part that goes into the product, specifically in the electronics field, having to pay extra for those types of things would hurt american businesses a lot, whereas Germany can continue to freely sell its products throughout the EU market and more
Sorry. It doesn’t work like that. It is only free market wenn we Americans have advantage. Wenn not, it is about the national security. Do not be too naive. Check my muscles next time before you really want to negotiate with me.
I really don't think the US was ever 'a friend' it has always been an enermy dusguised as a friend. It is very clear now thst the US is onlt interested in its own economyand agenda. It has never given anyone else a thought.
@@proudkuffar9890 ok then... leave us alone,we would welcome that very much. you guys are warmongers and warlovers... europe has it´s wars,long before your country even exist... enough of you guys setting everything on fire and then pretend to be firefighters..
Christopher Cook 1. We started WW2, not WW1. 2. You had no reason to enter WW1. 3. The Russia got Land, Industry and Power. R.I.P to your Grandfather and Father tho, if they died.
Listen hachi, US does not tell anyone what to do. It just asks Germany to do it other way. Germany can do whatever they want. But if they do it wrong, US too, can do whatever they want. I hope your hachi brain can understand it.
@@vladhusnullin1650 I think it's you're the "hachi" one dear ! It's my opinion you don't have to interfere in it oh wait you're just acting like Americans trying to sanction me for my opinion. Lol
Bourbia Nasreddine see i agree with vlad .....he isn’t interfering with your opinion he just saying something you don’t like , responding to your opinion and you not liking that response . Same with Germany , us is warning them that closer ties to Russia or China is a big No no if you wanna be a USA ally . That’s how it goes and I think America maybe isnt respectful as it should be with someone vocal like trump right now but legislative is being very kind to Germans and is just letting them know they shouldn’t expect USA support as strong as they’d like if they go this route and idk why Germans are acting like big babies about it . I get it that America is also doing it for economic reasons but certainly there are also politic idealist reasons behind it too don’t ignore that my friend . You are indirectly supporting authoritarianism with economic ties to Russia which honestly was the reasons Europe started both world wars and I don’t think it’s worth it for Germany to have stronger ties to that again....what this does is open the door for kremlin to gain more influence over Germany . What country doesn’t fight for its economics and Germany right now has to weigh the cost and I hope the Germans make the best choice . For all the anti us rhetoric you hear very little about the alternatives and what’s next after stepping away from USA something you should be doing in thinking but you aren’t
Nack Ack -Russian price manipulation -EU is dependent on the stability on German politics - Entirely Germany's fault for closing its own fossil fuel industry - neighboring nation's will be muscled by Russo proxies through import/export deals Its a giant mess creates by the Germans
@@BoggWeasel well, if eroupean countries don't like this, I can understand. But my question is why America ? America put sanctions to anyone don't follow its will. it has nothing to do with so called security. just America's Best interest.
The American guy seems to be under the impression that Germany has to follow American orders and very much has a "see, that is what happens when you disobey your masters" sort of vibe to him. Feels like an abusive relationship.
You didn't even watch the video. Some German politicians are giving in to Russian neo-imperialism. Germans and Europeans are largely opposed to this malign colonial project. Russian troll factories tell them what to post. They post the same rubbish with no basis or relevance to the subject matter.
Even for countries that invade and annex other countries? Countries have a right, and a duty, to use trade for the good of humanity and to withhold that trade from a enemy, even if that enemy has their man in the White House!
free trade is an idyllic, ivory tower theory. the big players in the US have always had a much more, shall we say, *realist* perspective on trade, lmao. I empathize and support German sovreignty, and dislike the US's rhetoric surrounding this issue---but I am also concerned that nation that seems to benefit most from the whole situation is Russia. They make the US look awful (didn't need to help them much), they weaken NATO, and they gain a degree of leverage within Germany.
How about sanctions for the USA for destroying Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Syria,Yemen and constantly meddling in other countries politics and businesses...???
That coming, how? here'S my prediction, the next government system will be under the United Nations, just mark my words, superpowers are just looking for their own interest, you can't have 3 roasters in a hen house, world solution need to be solved through a world government, when it's done collectively problems have a much better chance of being solved , we need a world court to go after international war criminals and there's a lot in the U.S., the world court will also impose embargoes, the superpower criminals are coming to an end
It was explained in the video that USA is not the only country that is against this project. It would be good project if Russia was a decent country. Unfortunately it's a country run by oligarchs and this project has potential to only strengthen those in power. Weak stance of Germany during current events in Belarus leaves very little hope that anything good can come out of this. It's too powerful but completely selfish interests - one from Russian oligarchs and other from German industries pursuing common goal of money making.
@@sk-sm9sh But it its trade, free market, how ethic is the crude oil from Iraq or Iran, or even from Africa?. There's no other way to control russian people besides tirany, you must just review the history.
@@sk-sm9sh Because they might ask for true democratic reform - shock, horror, Putin and his cronies can't have that! Take a look at what they did to Navalny.!
"According to U.S. Energy Information Administration, Russia’s oil and petroleum sales to the United States have reached six-year highs (data from the year of 2019)... The U.S. imported 61.75 million barrels of crude oil and petroleum products from Russia in January-May 2019, up from 56 million barrels in January-May 2018. " No sanctions, business as usual.
@@zcrib3 They aren't bending over to anyone. The are NOT bending over to the US. Thats where the US' problem lies. Its good for us in europe to diversify our dependencies.
@@antondegroot6061 They are bending over to Russia with this dream of client decinding the rules. What if the suppliers suddenly doesn't supply for 2 years.
@@meneither3834 Europe's and Russia's business. We could as well sanction America for having armstrades with Saudi Arabia that use those arms for crimes against humanity in Yemen.
@Marius Chirita we are a trade block, we band together so that we can have more weight in negotiations and international trade. This means we should make clear that of you negotiate with 1 member you negotiate with everyone. If members can do large international projects and deals on their own it makes the whole things meaningless. If you're a great power you prefer to deal with individual countries than with the whole block because you would be more powerful. This is why there is a soft diplomatic game between the EU and China where if China tries to send officials to single countries and the EU tries to always have officials from two or more different nations to receive Chinese officials.
@Hans Günther It's not about normality, what makes sense, the world has lost it! We don't turn our minds towards solutions, we throw our dogmas and point the finger at each other disabling resolution, and then we ask why the world is dying!
The USA should withdraw ALL troops from Europe. Russia is not a threat... Europe could flatten Russia in conventional warfare but why would that be needed (I cant see that) EU GDP 18 Trillion Russia 1,6 Trillion EU >10x larger EU Population 446 million Russia 144 million EU> 3x larger Europe Defense spending 300 Billion Russia 60 Billion Europe > 5x larger On top of this is Europe Russia's most important export market 4x larger than China(No2) 10X Larger than Belarus (No3) There is no reason for Russia to attack somebody who in all metrics are 5x-10x stronger and on top of that is by far the most important source of revenue. The USA is *NOT NEEDED IN EUROPE* "70 years after the war and US troops have still not left" *BUT THE SOVIET UNION HAVE AND THEY BELONG IN EUROPE* and then the complaints about troops in Afghanistan that is only 20 years so far...
@@qinby1182 an fully independent Europe is a threat to the US. So the US doesn't like the idea of a unified and free European continent. That would mean a dangerously big player that could easily stand up to the USA even without Russia. And what would happen if Russia joins the side of the EU? The US can't let Europe go if they want to be the world leader.
@@qinby1182 No. USA is guarantee of peace and freedoom in Europe. If you let Germany and Russia do what they want they will within 10 years divide central Europe beetween them. Vide Ribbentrop-Molotov. Ribbentrop-Molotov novadays Putin-Makrela. Germany and Russia was and still are the true agresors. In previous century germans started two world wars. America had to save humanity from tyrany. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! ONE AND ONLY FREE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
🤷🏻♂️Why is US always so salty 😂. India bought S400 they threatened sanctions, Germany made a pipeline and now they're doing the same. Just ridiculous. This despotic hegemon🇺🇲 just can't open it's eyes. If you can't treat and respect friendly democracies nicely, we too don't want you. Period
don´t. Just finish the project and remamber this for the next time they want something from you. Then say publicly "No, because we are not real partners!" They will ask "Why?" and then say "North Stream 2 and sanctions. If you want my help here, say you are sorry and pay reperations!" Then settel for the "Sorry!" and help them out. They will hate you for it, but your position will be clear + the rest of the world will love you for it ^^
🤷🏻♂️Why is US always so salty 😂. India bought S400 they threatened sanctions, Germany made a pipeline and now they're doing the same. Just ridiculous. This despotic hegemon🇺🇲 just can't open it's eyes. If you can't treat and respect friendly democracies nicely, we too don't want you. Period
@@Temerator1 enemy is someone who always hostile towards you, always opposing in whatever you do. It is not necessarily to be at war then considered enemy.
@@murraymicha yes, that's why germany opted for russian gas, FOR THE PEOPLE and the energy infrastructure building, we need cheaper gas to improve the pace at which we further develop the green house infrastructure.
@@user-dw1bb5fu3i Excuse me you mean the corona virus that control the whole world what a mess and drain the wealth on every each country including china, USA thanks
@@yilmazsertbolat4324 We all like to have multiple choices when facing an important decision. One can use the choices/options to maximize the better return/future.
Edgelord of Edginess the Edgeth Germany wil keep the peace for europe but they might drop the usa in next 10 years for being just as bad as the sovjets back in the day.
Because, the gas that passes through ukraine has a cost inserted by the ukrainian government, plus the theft that occurs in ukrainian territory, if removing these costs it is impossible for anyone to compete with russia in terms of price. So Americans found it easier to make Russian gas more expensive than selling American gas cheaper.
The audacity that US senators to rule over Germany is beyond comprehension. If would like to see how the US would react if it was the other way around.
The other way around? Well the Murican military will come to your country to spread their “democracy” and “freedom!” Bend over! That’s what will happen.
@@idyllsend6481 unlike annexing Crimea, the sovereign territory of Ukraine. That would never lead to war. What is the west to do when Russia begins to ANNEX neighboring territory? Sanctions are the most peaceful option available.
@@jordanknight336 Peaceful? Creating cannibals in Venezuela, bringing about a crisis and killing their economy? Yeah, sanctions aren't peaceful, it's the worst form of abuse. It has consequences worse than wars and it's the new ideal way for imperial US to push its political agenda with 0 losses.
@@jordanknight336 my friend, Russia stay sanctionated by germany. And germany do not buy more gas from russia because Nordstream 2. It just move directly to germany and no longer cross third countrys! It seems that most people have no idea why nordstream 2 is under construction. And also when germany will buy more Gas from Russia, its also no Part of US influence. It is a german and european Project and most european countrys are behind this! The USA is doing a lot of hard stuff with his allys, more than ever since Trump this stup....... was elected by nearby 50% of Voter in the US. Trump is one of the most poor People and the anericans make this bad Person to theyr President. The whole world is shaking his head about this until today. He is doing what he wants, he give no care about the needs of US-Allys. And because of this it starts more and more that the Allys give also no care in the needs and wishes of the US. The US get, what it sown.
geo-politically it has always been a nightmare scenario for us, and great britian. i hope the president doesn't sanction the gemrans. i don't want to drive them even further into russias arms.
Bung Kusi Because Russian prices are a lie? Not only that but they can extort Germany for higher prices. Germans have forgotten they were occupied by the Soviets
Bung Kusi Germany could drill the energy themselves but they do not want to. You think this is just about the US? Russia will use muscle proxies for sanctions against smaller European nation's
@Adam woah now. I'm an american and I'm frustrated with my own countries actions for sure. But not mass murder. Not the answer. Just start cutting economic ties.
Clearly not. Covid and their imploding export model is ending Chinese imports of German products. If America closes it's consumer market to Germany, you are finished as a functioning society. Germany exports 60% of it's GNP in products. Products that American easily get elsewhere, or make at home. The Soviet Union collapsed decades ago. We don't need you anymore. You had best come to terms with the USA while you still can.
@@corathus59 Most important export markets for Germany are China, France and the Netherlands - not the USA. Germany doesn't need the USA anymore :-) The USA will have to learn their new position in the world. And it is not "number one"!
@@migrationsforschermitbreit6744 Exactly. Also other EU countries and other anglosphere countries. Export from Germany to USA specifically will not stop over Nordstream 2 anyways but even if it would Germany has the rest of the world to trade with - which is more than enough.
@@migrationsforschermitbreit6744 Leider ist die USA immer noch 1. aber China und Russland sind halt auch mächtig weswegen sich die USA nicht mehr alles erlauben kann wie vor 20 Jahren(Irak Krieg).
Sure, Russia and Germany always went hand by hand. They invaded Poland together and started WW2. Why should Germany take into consideration needs or concerns of others? All that counts is money and best interest of Germany, isn’t it?
@mrblurblur2003 : Yup ... Leave NATO and set up a European military block. US dominance is over and they'll probably be spending years to undo the damage Trump has done. They're attacking their own civilians, for crying out loud! Greetz from the Netherlands.
You can't. Well actually you can but then the whole Ponzi scheme falls apart. It is called the US Dollar. Right Now everybody accepts it but once people stop then the whole Ponzi currency schemes: Dollars, Euros, Yen, RMB, etc. collapses.
@@theGoogol On this side of the Atlantic being the US, many Americans feel that Trump is fixing up the damage of the last 40 years. I understand that on your side of the Atlantic that isn't likely to be the case but Americans pick American leaders on what is best for America and not what is best for the World.
We need a diversification of energy supplies in Europe with different partner countries that can guarantee that supply. Many different so as not to depend on a single non-European guarantor. Apart from that we need politically, socially and nationally Germany and Russia back in Europe after so many years of humiliation and marginalization. So I fully support Nord Stream 2.
Друг В Украину tough luck, they shouldn’t have decided to go along with the US and their malign behaviour in the region. Russia was smart to bypass Ukraine.
@delonix regia You may think what you wish. We have to do what is in our best interests to prevent a larger war down the road. What I and my fellow citizens decide to do will not likely be what is in the interest of a dictator looking to expand his empire.
@delonix regia I get that you feel differently, that Russia should be able to keep parts of Georgia and Ukraine and nibble off another piece here or maybe take over the Baltic states soon, but I think from my perspective enough is enough and that if we allow that to happen we will end up fighting a bigger war. This lesson was learned from the Germans in the run up to World War 2, and perhaps a bit from Japan as well. Tolerating people stealing other countries territory is not something we plan to do regardless of what you may think about it. If you want to call that trash talk, so be it, but you are the aggressor here.
The United States is far from irrelevant. This is a wildly ignorant statement. Germany exports more than 100 Billion Euros worth of goods to the United States annually. It is a major trade partner. The US is the majority trade partner with a plethora of nations. It is also the sole super power. It spends billions in defense of Europe annually. Don't let your feelings cloud your rationality. No reason able person would call the US irrelevant.
Why should every countries have to obey the US. Every country has it own rules, law and their own rights to do what they want. Why need permission from the US?
I remember when eu was unhappy with Italy accepting Russia and China's help in doctors and ventilators when they didn't send any during March. They said that accepting help would make Italy favour them during political discussions in EU. Now i wonder how compromising could a oil business between germany and russia be and if it would make Germany favour Russia in politics discussions in EU mmmh i guess, double standards ?
@@billithekat1088 It was not my aim to create a "us vs you" discussion, i was just pointing out the impression i got from the two episodes. Our pm Conte had an interview some days after those facts happened in which he had to almost justify his actions and had to specify two times that accepting Russia's help would not change Italy's mind on matters regarding Russia and EU. I would give you the link but like i said i don't remember the journal and i've seen so many interviews he did during the time that It would be pointless searching for that one now; they were either a german or an EU channel, if i well remember. I don't think Germany would get bias by doing this business, what's putting me off is that while those things were implied in our case it wasn't even thought in the german one even if the most dangerous situation is the second case since we're talking about big money. Just that.
@@areswalker5647 tbh it's the first time I read or hear that there were concerns about Italy accepting help from Russia. If this was a topic in German media it must have gone under with all the news about rising deaths and infections and a country in such a total lockdown. At least in the public eye noone (accept those who denied the existance of the virus) would have had concerns if a country in such a devastating situation would take what ever help it could get. But politicians aren't the public eye so it's plausible to me that some of them actually did express such concerns. Easy for them and their twisted minds to even think about something like that while a country is in such a need.
@@pami333 your words are really kind thank you :) as i've already stated i can't confirm it was a german channel or from some other specific nation because i can't remember now, and obviously my words were referred to politicians and media but not the population of said country. Actually i'm happy germans didn't think those things because i have to admit they were quite offensive especially when said in those difficult situations
@@billithekat1088 are you nut? Germany did every thing to make the situation unbearable for Italy, kept supplies for itself. Don't worry, Italians have learned EU spirit and Germany better. The future will tell.
It's more just the cheaper gas, we need cheaper energy for the people to not revolt over the hight gas prices and to make a better green energy infrastructure
@@gvi341984 Lol... the only one having control over anything at the moment is the US over Poland. Poland imports US LNG gas at a hefty surcharge. Apparently the Polish market is not enough for the US fracking gas industry, they want Germany too. If the Poles want to bend over for Trump that's their choice.
@@gvi341984 Wow, so in other words you didn't know that Russia has already been selling gas to Germany for over 60 YEARS now? Russia has precisely ZERO control of EU countries and the new pipeline won't change that.
@@jaikee9477 Yes? That's the point I've been making with the over dependantance on Russian energy . Instead of being a nuisance the Russo muscle is pushing for harder deals
Nothing to do with sovereignty but that’s the argument someone would make to justify closer financial ties to anti democratic regime. Germans are free to be sovereignty from America and they completely are . But if they wanna help fund the Putin regime they will pay a price for that and that upsets you . You are free to have your own policies but USA is also sovereignty and you aren’t respecting its sovereignty when it chooses to tax things coming into its country . This comment is actually ironic . You act like america is making decisions in Germany , it’s not....it’s simply going to just make its own decisions on how it trades with Germany from decisions Germany made itself. Typical anti American rhetoric
@@easyebs5841 no. America is the one sanctioning Germany for Germany's own decision to purchase has from Russia. Economically, it is cheaper, but politically, it helps to flchannel funds into Russia, which USA doesn't want. Just like Huawei, and many other Chinese companies, like Tiktok and WeChat. If fail you to see how the US operates, you're blind.
Xavier K this anti America view never has a sense of perspective or practical viewpoint or questions what happens after the decoupling of America . Look at your alternatives wise guy
@@easyebs5841 you're the only non brainwash on this entire thread it looks like.. clearly Germany is going down that road of breaking their alliance with the western world no matter what, goodbye and good luck with that to them
Well the bombing runs in the old Yugoslavia were more in behalf or Germany than the US. Same goes for Libya but with baguette and the Roast Beef’s house of lirds as beneficiaries
Facts Are You shouldn’t. Trump is now executing Putin's wishes by dividing all of Occident, mainly Europe. Here is Putin’s simple plan: divide and conquer.
The fact is that Germany asks the U.S. to provide tens of thousands of soldiers and spend billions of dollars each year to protect Germany from Russia. That seems rather silly when Germany is going to provide billions annually to the Russian military each year with this project.
@@antman7673 Even during the 'cold war' Russian gas was a reliable source of energy for all Europeans that wanted it, why? Because it is right on Europe's doorstep. How unlikely is it to transport liquid gas 5000km from US (plus convert it) is less expensive than piped gas from good old reliable Russia. Just saying.
Frankly, he has misjudge how tired of America most ppl of the world is. You don't tell ppl what to do....OR ELSE WE WILL SANCTION YOU? Wow, to a country like Germany 🇩🇪, world leaders in there own rights?? My comparator is this: German tech vs U.S tech. It dispells any notion of Germany inferiority. Germany needs to banish to the past and image of an errand boy that's told what to do..or else you get a scolding!
Imagine living next door to the US! Their arrogance towards the rest of the world has escalated to the point where we check each day to see who trump has set his sights on. Last week we took a hit. Today is Germany. China is ongoing. He just banned private flights to Cuba. But all of this sabre rattling will end when he looses the election.
After 2 world wars, I'm gonna say never. Even West/East unification had to be done secretly because literally everyone hated the idea of a strong Germany.
My understanding is that Germany needs Russian Gas... Not only for Residential Heat, but for industry. Stopping Nordstrom 2 would not seem to serve Germany's interests.
Germany, it the time for you to on the wrong side of the world war again! Go for it! Do not change your position in the world war! Small mind people! By the way, I am Chinese! We were on the right side last time, I am sure , we are on the wrong side this time!
@underratedFancyFashion hunter I wonder what would happen if Europe were to completely close it's market to the US and all the European companies were to leave the US and take all the jobs with them. I'm sure the American population is going to the trilled, especially in the current situation.
Germany is a sovereign country that can make its own independent decisions. It is not subservient to the US, as the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Nord Stream 2 is good for Germany.
If Germany don’t secure its energy needs for the future then ready for blackout. Indeed Germans wouldn’t let that to happen so will make the project. Great country 🇩🇪
André Rothweiler it is not that easy to relay totally on renewable sources of energies. Therefore, it is essential for German manufacturing economy to get this project. USA just don’t want it because of Russia and even don’t allow Pakistan to make partnership with China. If USA don’t like such project that isn’t mean it’s political agenda.
@@uj313 In Pakistan its different, Poland, Ukraine and Baltics are against it (half Europe). Russia uses energy as a tool, Germany already imports all the gas truth other pipelines. It only does it so Ukraine would lose money because of gas transit, so it can pressure it even more. I understand if you are not next to Russia, then Russia is a big friend, but if I would live next to China I would say it differently about China
André Rothweiler I don’t agree because Saudi-Arabia supplies almost half of the oil but at what extend it uses energy as a tool. Russia alone can work on space, heavy machinery industry and taking a big role in the world politics whereas western and US allies are still together not equal to Russia. So, it’s time to work together not pushing others for own interest. Germany produces the most expensive electricity in Europe and still imports to meet supply demand gap. That’s why they need a solid backup because their half of the energy consumption is from renewables and imports from neighboring countries. This surly a good deal as long as Germany needs it.
Russia offers a much cheaper gas and with the construction of nordstream2 gas supply will be consistent & efficient to meet the demand of european market. the best result that can come out of this very project is the vast possibilities of a future cooperation between Russia and Germany also not to forget the EU at large. With Russia having huge economic interest inside EU territories this will further ensure that Russia will protect their money machines and not to attack or go to war with them. Think about it. USA is against this project because they wish Germany will buy gas from them which are more expensive otherwise they USA will put a crumbling economic sanctions on Germany. 1. Russia didn't force Germany to buy from them or risk going to war. 2. USA on the other hand threatened Germany with economic sanctions (which is an act of war and illegal in accordance with the UN) *Ukraine all these while badmouthing Russia to the west stand against this project because they will lose their cut from Russian gas that flows to Europe using their pipeline.
@Oegoenoegoe that's what'll likely happen if it's not lifted, germany might put sanctions on european countries denying the export of military resources or denying military trade altogether, and who's to blame for forcing germany to do it? That's right, the US for being way too snoopy and other peoples' business
It is so nice to see Germans' mind becomes clearer by this time, sensing limitless and brutal greed of the US. Does anyone remember on what was 25 and 30 years ago? So, pipeline construction and supply of cheap oil and gas was fiercely obstructed by the US only at the time. Why? It is obvious. Because EU with Germany would have been strong and eveyone wanted to buy Deutsch Mark instead of the ever crazy printed and inflated USD. I hope this short refresh helps a bit about real apprehesion of true nature of the big brother.
US maniacs and egocentrists are focusing on American things, people, weather, sports, and food and drinks....and gleefully forgetting about the rest of the world. They have surrendered their thinking to a commando of insanely bragging warmongers strutting arrogantly around the globe and threatening all nations into submission.
@so good where do you even get the idea of Russia turning off the gas when this very pipeline is part of their main income source and biggest money maker? If anything, then Russia will get more dependent on Germany for staying in business. We only use Russian gas for roughly 1/3 of our gas import into Germany, this is far from being overly dependent. You also forgot the fact that Russia is providing us with gas for over 60 years now and never cut it off. So your argument has litterally zero ground to stand on.
Germany gave the world two world wars which the world still paying for, on top of that, Germany doesn’t pay their bills, Germany wants the USA to protect them from Russia while doing business with it. Germany is NOT fooling anyone. Trump 2020.
The German government complained about America pulling some ten thousand troops out of Germany, perhaps we should pull all of our troops out. WW2, ended a long time ago and we/Americans shouldn’t be there anymore.
@stack Whale repeating that narrative will not make it true The US does not pay for Germany´s defence never has and never will. The US only supports it´s own interests
EU is doomed and you know it. What did the EU do with Covid? All 28 countries shut their borders to the others. National interests will alway come before the EU and Brussels. Besides the northern countries can no longer afford those to the south. The US does now under Trump. Before not so much and that is why Trump is in office in the first place and to secure its border.
@@jamesc2899 please bring back all your troops to America. The troops here not for protekting germany. Today at first they are here to use them as Base for US-Opperations in nearer and middle east! How will the US fight in Irak, in Afghanistan ... without base in Ramstein for example? It is the US headquarter of Airforce in Europe. You should not make any claim to inteference in internal and external german sovereignty just because US is allowed to use german military base for theyr troops and operations. And only Putin will be happy, if US pull back troops from Europe.
@@francoislechanceux5818 then you shouldnt have problem to give me a quick Link and/or Timestamp on where we could find those outrages anti-US behavior.
It's Imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America - Zbignew Brzezinski (Nicholas J Spykman)
OR ELSE USA WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT USA HAS CONTRIBUTED SINCE NATO WAS CREATED!!!!!! GERMANY IA A NATO MEMBER AND USA IS A NATO MEMBER AND USA HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK GERMANY FOR IT!!!!!!! NOTHING IS FOREVER IF NATO MEMBERS WANT TO BUY FROM RUSSIA THEY CAN!!!!!! JUST DO NOT THINK USA WILL KEEP SENDING THOSE MILLIONS EVERY YEAR TO NATO BECAUSE USA WILL NOT!!!!! YOU CAN NOT TAKE THE BEST FROM HERE AND THE BEST FROM THERE !!!!!! AND PRETEND THERE IS NO PROBLEM!!!!!!!
His whole argument was "we told you to bend over, you refused, so we're gonna shove it in forcefully. Your fault". It's the same logic they use on Iran China Venezuela Cuba Iraq Libya etc, basically anyone who doesn't lick them the way they like. Feels different when YOU are on the receiving end, huh?
Germany has no need to fight sanctions with counter-sanctions against the US. Like it or not, Germany is the voice and leader of Europe. It clearly understands that peaceful coexistence with Russia is the better way forward. Germany and Europe's future prosperity hinges on this economic interaction and cooperation with neighbouring Russia. Not alone that, but it's clear to the world that the US is a rapidly declining power which seems to be completely overlooked by the panel. Germany is looking to the future and shaping its long-term planning accordingly while the US mindset has lost its direction, as clearly demonstrated by the panel, to its ideological clinging to a defunct past.
There is nothing more freightening to the US than Russia and Germany united (an elder US General stated that). So the US will always try to separate those countries apart - a dangerous game for Russia and Germany (and Europe as a whole), less to the US. But since China comes up more and more, Id like to pick Putin the EU to be friend with, not China. The US wants Puting not to pick at all understandably.
@@santaclaus0815 Why would we fear that? actually I guess we would because if that happened we would have the responsibility of liberating Germany for the second time so yeah I guess you could say that.
@@tolmie1141 „Why would we fear that?“ >>> I was also surprised by that statement, but it makes sense - at least from a post WW2 perspective. In my opinion it can be broken down to these aspects: 1. Ingenuity: If you look at WW2 and count the best / most effective machines of war, by far most of them belong either to the USSR or Germany: Germany built the finest, most advanced weapons (the most dangerous but not the cheapest) and Russia the best regarding cost-usefulness-ratio. So the US could hardly be supreme by technology nor by manufactoring efficiecy aspects. 2. Geography: the US would be forced into a 2-front-war (even 3-front war if you consider the polar sea). Not cool. So the US would be practically an island - like the UK in WW2. Cut away from the other continents the US would need support by close neighbours e.g. for food supply, but the way to southern america over land is narrow and therefore sensitive to attacs from both oceans. And I am not sure if that General back then really considered Mexico or any carribean island (maybe puerto rico) to even be an (useful) ally to the US. 3. Manpower: the size of the population of those 2 countries combinded could make also a challenge to the US - especially since Russia is airy populated regarding its enormous size, so could grow massively with the necessary time given. 4. Natural ressources: Germany and Russia COMBINED dont lack important natural ressources for fueling economy and weapon manufacturing and have „direct access“ to the huge euroasian continent. The US are dependent e.g. on arabic oil which is at the other side of the globe from a northern american perspective. Remember: the US had their hands full of work fighting Germany & Japan, but these countries hadn’t had logistic contact, could not support each other directly and efficiently. And Japan is a much easier target than Russia since it is quite smaller and far more densly populated than Russia. Russia has even a slightly bigger size of population than Japan has. I admit: From a 1949 view on the world some facts from back then are not that much thinkable any more e.g. that Russia still would have the support of its eastern european satellite states and the fact that Germany was quite lucky in overrunning Europe. From today’s point of view you would probably pick China instead of Germany or Russia. „we would have the responsibility of liberating Germany for the second time“ >>> 1. Why „liberate“? You think Germany would necessarily be a dictatorship once again? Have a look at your president! 2. If so it would be the 3rd time ;-) If the US pull their troops out of europe, europe has 2 options: rearm against Russia or make peace with Russia. Russia is a close neighbour of the EU so war would not be a wise decision - for either side. The US would not allow Russian or chinese rockets stationed closely to US territory either - lets say in Mexico or Cuba or even Hawaii. on the other side Russia and China have US / NATO troops next door: Canada, Norway, baltic states, Turkey, Taiwan.
Dan Master oh no! We Germans are handling our own foreign affairs in a friendly manner? How dare we! You realize if Russia gets a larger portion of its money from Germany and Germany decides „nah, we dont want it anymore“ Russia is screwed right? And considering the strength of the green movement here in Germany, we wont be buying much natural gas from Russia for long, its rather temporary
I‘ m German. And I totally agree with the USA. I think it‘s a catastrophy, that we have this gas pipeline from Russia. I hope that our politicians will wake up. As a German, I feel ashamed that we have this gas pipeline from Russia. I would never have done this. The politicians who did this shouldn‘t be elected from us Germans. I love the USA. What the German woman is saying is not my opinion. I‘m German, too. And I think it’s very clear. We are an ally of the USA and I want us to behave that way.
West-Germany is supplied with natural gas by USSR/Russia since the early 1970s. Always a reliable trading-partner even in cold-war times. So no need to buy expensive American fracking gas.
This project is under construction since 2011 according to wikipedia. More than enough time to raise concerns. Now, when its nearly done, some backbenchers crawl out of the woodworks hoping for a market for their fracking gas/ grabing votes from workers in that filed, while neither logistics nor prices are nearly in a state of competing.
I agree with Mr. Kirschbaum that ignoring the wishes and complaints of other members of your own trading bloc is ill-advised... but what does the U.S. have to do with any of this? They've been committed to the free flow of goods and services by forcing boundaries open (forcing Japan to open to trade in 19th c., forcing Iran to keep Hormuz Strait free, etc.)- but it suddenly forgets that when it benefits a rival geopolitical power exclusively (China is acceptable because Americans are used to cheap goods, an embargo would lead to revolts). Why is it interfering with 2 other countries' affairs if its relationship with Europe is military, not economic? The contention that every action, even economic, is political- is true. But I would expect the U.S. to embargo China and Saudi Arabia then, if it actually cared about political rights of other countries' citizens. They're simply being selective against a foreign power that is a relatively easy target to hate. Opportunistic, but not principled in their actions.
@tea and biscuits it's almost impossible plus distance the depth of this ocean makes it both economically and technologically demanding project in the world.
I thought we are living in a free world, globalisation trading, but the US wants to dictate how and who we are allowed to trade, is time to tell the US to shift their army's base back home. Germany is a sovereign country, they can make their law who and how to get the best deal for their own country.
Isn't it a bad idea sanctioning other countries, when your own economy is in decline anyway? Germany will just turn more elsewhere, like more closer to Russia and even China.
No sorry ...Germany: to..Please US..protect us ..spend on our security..I cannot pay for NATO..but please protect me from Russia ...USA ..sure ..until Trump came, Trump ..pay your small agreed share ...Germany ..I will take Most critical Energy from Russia while you protect me from Russia
@@John_Doe448 It's your sovereign right, it is respectable to get out of NATO according to me. You cannot ride too long with each leg on two bikes going in different directions. Having said that, this world is the most foolish, make-believe world. Sanctions on Russia for taking a piece of land which was their own, Russian speaking population? but Cozy up and forget sanctions, give technology and exempt China of various tariffs as they take over Inner Mongolia, then Xinjiang and steamrolling killing thousands of Buddhists, and occupy India land with clandestine nuclear technology to N.Korea and Pakistan .. threatening all neighbors, putting nations on debt trap? The joke, they are UN permanent members a temple of Democracy while they never have elections.. Yeah, crazy selfish world.
I am an Engineer and not a Politician - but all of this talk seems to ignore the ageing pipeline interconnectors supplying the whole of Europe ( not only Germany) with Russian Gas, also the decline in Supplies via Tunisian interconnecter via Sicily in to Italy means that these supplies are reducing. That pipeline too is reaching its use by dates - so with reducing revenues- there is not the sums of money available to upgrade or replace all of these. Therefore in this system it is important for all nations that these interconnectors are upgraded and replaced (we cannot simply replace an entire pipeline infrastructure over night !!! It is a pathetic stance to block these - because right now there is sufficient investment in the sector to upgrade them . Putin himself also made comments to this effect too - I know that these pipelines have a design life of 20-30 years - well the existing lines are de-rated because of lifetime erosion etc wear on pump stations etc - therefore they cannot be operated at maximum original design pressures and volumetric transfer rates - this is normal. A pipeline is a far far more efficient means of transporting oil gas and chemicals over land. Not only efficiency in volumes but reduces over land exhaust emissions from road tankers. At a time when the world needs to significantly reduce emissions then pipelines are an obvious choice - and especially throughout the densely populated nations in Europe. It reduces congestion it reduces wear on roads it reduces the potential for road tanker collisions and spills. So all these facts seem to brushed away under the carpet and instead we make up a list of reasons for derailing a system that has operated and supplied Europe and the UK since the end of world war 2. So why after 70 years ( Cold War period included ) is it such an immediate issue? One reason only and that is super power positioning America is slipping 1 = China, 2 = Europe 3 or 4 is now Russia / USA or is it USA / Russia ??? We also have the rise of Asian countries to the global stage - but not under colonialist controls but on the back of their own trading and commercial positions - these too also happen to have the largest populations too (market place) so here we have China, India, Malaysia, Vietnam Bangladesh these previously subdued nations are now increasingly using the same commodities and energy supplies previously enjoyed by the western aristocratic ruling countries - now in a global economy- these countries are having an increasing say on how the world is run. I don’t believe that Americans - used to being “the leader of the Western world” are relishing the position that they have now placed themselves into …
The solution is simple. Ask the US to sell oil and gas to Europe at prices cheaper than those offered by Russia. When someone decided to buy from another cheaper supplier, that's just free market at work. Isn't the US pro free market?
Yeah and lets be honest here, will the sanctions hurt Germany more or less than they will hurt the US? There are a surprisingly large amount of German companies in the US that Americans prefer to buy from without even knowing that theyre originally German companies, take Audi or Mercedes as examples, Germany also has large industries for highly specified machines, Germany makes the machine that creates the part that goes into the product, specifically in the electronics field, having to pay extra for those types of things would hurt american businesses a lot, whereas Germany can continue to freely sell its products throughout the EU market and more
@@ligmablocks9998 yeah they can sell to China.
US pro free market? Maybe once a long time ago, but not now. Just look at all this “national security” excuses to limit competition
@@youngz13o US does not need the Communist Free Market.
Sorry. It doesn’t work like that. It is only free market wenn we Americans have advantage. Wenn not, it is about the national security. Do not be too naive. Check my muscles next time before you really want to negotiate with me.
With "friends" like that, who needs enemies?
Enlightenment, at long last!!
I really don't think the US was ever 'a friend' it has always been an enermy dusguised as a friend. It is very clear now thst the US is onlt interested in its own economyand agenda. It has never given anyone else a thought.
I think the US would be better off without "friends" like Germany, a freeloader nation.
@@proudkuffar9890 ok then... leave us alone,we would welcome that very much.
you guys are warmongers and warlovers... europe has it´s wars,long before your country even exist... enough of you guys setting everything on fire and then pretend to be firefighters..
@@proudkuffar9890
The US is free to leave Ramstein and other bases in germany. Dont let the door kick you in the assets on your way out. 😁
The question is "how dangerous is usa"?
Christopher Cook Ah yes.
1. We didn’t start WW1.
2. You are comparing a world war with a f*cking Pipeline.
Grow up.
Christopher Cook
1. We started WW2, not WW1.
2. You had no reason to enter WW1.
3. The Russia got Land, Industry and Power.
R.I.P to your Grandfather and Father tho, if they died.
Very dangerous and very untrustworthy....keep a close eye on Russia
@@beygbeyg5091 yes RUSSIA ist strong, but use is gangster
@ Wadim Kaiser - dangerous enough to bring down Ukraine and caused 95% of the wars since WW2
Nobody mentioned gas prices during this discussion. As if it didn't matter!
@Yee Tian THese guests were pathetic!
That american guy kept saying congress congress jesus it's Germany not the US why the German would follow congress decisions.
Listen hachi, US does not tell anyone what to do. It just asks Germany to do it other way. Germany can do whatever they want. But if they do it wrong, US too, can do whatever they want. I hope your hachi brain can understand it.
@@vladhusnullin1650
I think it's you're the "hachi" one dear !
It's my opinion you don't have to interfere in it oh wait you're just acting like Americans trying to sanction me for my opinion. Lol
@@nasb2218 I see you understood what I told you. I am happy you did.
@@vladhusnullin1650 So I'm not hachi After all lol
What's hachi I hope it's not a curse word ? Haha
Bourbia Nasreddine see i agree with vlad .....he isn’t interfering with your opinion he just saying something you don’t like , responding to your opinion and you not liking that response . Same with Germany , us is warning them that closer ties to Russia or China is a big No no if you wanna be a USA ally . That’s how it goes and I think America maybe isnt respectful as it should be with someone vocal like trump right now but legislative is being very kind to Germans and is just letting them know they shouldn’t expect USA support as strong as they’d like if they go this route and idk why Germans are acting like big babies about it . I get it that America is also doing it for economic reasons but certainly there are also politic idealist reasons behind it too don’t ignore that my friend . You are indirectly supporting authoritarianism with economic ties to Russia which honestly was the reasons Europe started both world wars and I don’t think it’s worth it for Germany to have stronger ties to that again....what this does is open the door for kremlin to gain more influence over Germany . What country doesn’t fight for its economics and Germany right now has to weigh the cost and I hope the Germans make the best choice . For all the anti us rhetoric you hear very little about the alternatives and what’s next after stepping away from USA something you should be doing in thinking but you aren’t
Why does this have anything to do with American? The American guy just talks about this like this is build in its backyard.
France, Poland and Ukraine are also against the pipeline. USA is the only that has the economic muscle to do something
@@BoggWeasel and the rest said its ok. Even denmark said its ok. Its our economic deal, why does it bother ya all?
@@BoggWeasel they are against it because the USA is against it. And also they fear sanctions if they in favor.
Nack Ack
-Russian price manipulation
-EU is dependent on the stability on German politics
- Entirely Germany's fault for closing its own fossil fuel industry
- neighboring nation's will be muscled by Russo proxies through import/export deals
Its a giant mess creates by the Germans
@@BoggWeasel well, if eroupean countries don't like this, I can understand. But my question is why America ? America put sanctions to anyone don't follow its will. it has nothing to do with so called security. just America's Best interest.
This segment is just as relevant now as it was when it first aired in 2020.
The American guy seems to be under the impression that Germany has to follow American orders and very much has a "see, that is what happens when you disobey your masters" sort of vibe to him. Feels like an abusive relationship.
i think you should have obeyed us government
For the sake of future generations, Germany should not give in to this bullying. Where is the free trade preached by the US?
Bravo.
You didn't even watch the video. Some German politicians are giving in to Russian neo-imperialism. Germans and Europeans are largely opposed to this malign colonial project. Russian troll factories tell them what to post. They post the same rubbish with no basis or relevance to the subject matter.
"free-trade", as with "free-market economics" is a myth.
Even for countries that invade and annex other countries? Countries have a right, and a duty, to use trade for the good of humanity and to withhold that trade from a enemy, even if that enemy has their man in the White House!
free trade is an idyllic, ivory tower theory. the big players in the US have always had a much more, shall we say, *realist* perspective on trade, lmao.
I empathize and support German sovreignty, and dislike the US's rhetoric surrounding this issue---but I am also concerned that nation that seems to benefit most from the whole situation is Russia. They make the US look awful (didn't need to help them much), they weaken NATO, and they gain a degree of leverage within Germany.
How about sanctions for the USA for destroying Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Syria,Yemen and constantly meddling in other countries politics and businesses...???
Obama administration not trump
America is ruined not only by the president. The Illuminati Freemasons are runners of this dealt cult. They manufacture the weapons run the banks.
That coming, how? here'S my prediction, the next government system will be under the United Nations, just mark my words, superpowers are just looking for their own interest, you can't have 3 roasters in a hen house, world solution need to be solved through a world government, when it's done collectively problems have a much better chance of being solved , we need a world court to go after international war criminals and there's a lot in the U.S., the world court will also impose embargoes, the superpower criminals are coming to an end
@@emmanuelasiedu8069 In this sense it really doesn't matter who was in power.
Jose Bazo Costa and. Bolivia Venezuela......
USA : We are supporting free market!
also USA : no, please, not today!
@AA Maroon yes
It was explained in the video that USA is not the only country that is against this project. It would be good project if Russia was a decent country. Unfortunately it's a country run by oligarchs and this project has potential to only strengthen those in power. Weak stance of Germany during current events in Belarus leaves very little hope that anything good can come out of this. It's too powerful but completely selfish interests - one from Russian oligarchs and other from German industries pursuing common goal of money making.
@@sk-sm9sh But it its trade, free market, how ethic is the crude oil from Iraq or Iran, or even from Africa?. There's no other way to control russian people besides tirany, you must just review the history.
@@zunino631 why do someone need to control Russian people?
@@sk-sm9sh Because they might ask for true democratic reform - shock, horror, Putin and his cronies can't have that! Take a look at what they did to Navalny.!
"According to U.S. Energy Information Administration, Russia’s oil and petroleum sales to the United States have reached six-year highs (data from the year of 2019)... The U.S. imported 61.75 million barrels of crude oil and petroleum products from Russia in January-May 2019, up from 56 million barrels in January-May 2018. " No sanctions, business as usual.
That is the hypocrisy, of Americans.
do you still think nord stream 2 is a good idea
The bilateral relation does not mean German obedience to America. Germans should make its own foreign policy by themselves.
The fact that America threathens sanctions proves that we in europe have too much dependency on the US, not Russia.
Anton de Groot I agree with you 100 percent. Dependence on other country deprives us of our sovereignty and integrity.
Sure, but US is right here. Germany is just bending over for Putin.
@@zcrib3 They aren't bending over to anyone. The are NOT bending over to the US. Thats where the US' problem lies. Its good for us in europe to diversify our dependencies.
@@antondegroot6061 They are bending over to Russia with this dream of client decinding the rules. What if the suppliers suddenly doesn't supply for 2 years.
Germany should fight this. Who they choose to trade with is nobody's business.
It's every EU member's business.
@@meneither3834 did the rest say no?
@@meneither3834 Europe's and Russia's business. We could as well sanction America for having armstrades with Saudi Arabia that use those arms for crimes against humanity in Yemen.
@@meneither3834 if EU doesn't stand by Germany decidion, like poland isn't then it's none of there business.
@Marius Chirita we are a trade block, we band together so that we can have more weight in negotiations and international trade. This means we should make clear that of you negotiate with 1 member you negotiate with everyone.
If members can do large international projects and deals on their own it makes the whole things meaningless.
If you're a great power you prefer to deal with individual countries than with the whole block because you would be more powerful. This is why there is a soft diplomatic game between the EU and China where if China tries to send officials to single countries and the EU tries to always have officials from two or more different nations to receive Chinese officials.
This is one of the most one sided “discussion” on the Internet.
Hans Günther Das selbe hier in Österreich 🇦🇹
@Hans Günther It's not about normality, what makes sense, the world has lost it! We don't turn our minds towards solutions, we throw our dogmas and point the finger at each other disabling resolution, and then we ask why the world is dying!
The USA should withdraw ALL troops from Europe.
Russia is not a threat... Europe could flatten Russia in conventional warfare but why would that be needed (I cant see that)
EU GDP 18 Trillion Russia 1,6 Trillion EU >10x larger
EU Population 446 million Russia 144 million EU> 3x larger
Europe Defense spending 300 Billion Russia 60 Billion Europe > 5x larger
On top of this is Europe Russia's most important export market 4x larger than China(No2) 10X Larger than Belarus (No3)
There is no reason for Russia to attack somebody who in all metrics are 5x-10x stronger and on top of that is by far the most important source of revenue.
The USA is *NOT NEEDED IN EUROPE*
"70 years after the war and US troops have still not left" *BUT THE SOVIET UNION HAVE AND THEY BELONG IN EUROPE* and then the complaints about troops in Afghanistan that is only 20 years so far...
@@qinby1182 an fully independent Europe is a threat to the US. So the US doesn't like the idea of a unified and free European continent. That would mean a dangerously big player that could easily stand up to the USA even without Russia.
And what would happen if Russia joins the side of the EU?
The US can't let Europe go if they want to be the world leader.
@@qinby1182 No. USA is guarantee of peace and freedoom in Europe. If you let Germany and Russia do what they want they will within 10 years divide central Europe beetween them. Vide Ribbentrop-Molotov. Ribbentrop-Molotov novadays Putin-Makrela.
Germany and Russia was and still are the true agresors. In previous century germans started two world wars.
America had to save humanity from tyrany.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
ONE AND ONLY FREE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
Thinking that every nation in the world is their subject.
Counter-sanctions them as Germany is a sovereign country. Don’t let the mobsters ride roughshod over you.
🤷🏻♂️Why is US always so salty 😂. India bought S400 they threatened sanctions, Germany made a pipeline and now they're doing the same. Just ridiculous. This despotic hegemon🇺🇲 just can't open it's eyes. If you can't treat and respect friendly democracies nicely, we too don't want you. Period
don´t. Just finish the project and remamber this for the next time they want something from you. Then say publicly "No, because we are not real partners!" They will ask "Why?" and then say "North Stream 2 and sanctions. If you want my help here, say you are sorry and pay reperations!" Then settel for the "Sorry!" and help them out. They will hate you for it, but your position will be clear + the rest of the world will love you for it ^^
@Simons Douglas
do you think the eu will allow usa to attack one of their countries?
they would all unite and destroy all usa soldiers in europe.
@Simons Douglas
which specific things i said do yo think are incorrect and why?
simply saying "wake up" is meaningless.
go ahead
If Microsoft buy Nordstream 2, then, it won't be dangerous.
🤷🏻♂️Why is US always so salty 😂. India bought S400 they threatened sanctions, Germany made a pipeline and now they're doing the same. Just ridiculous. This despotic hegemon🇺🇲 just can't open it's eyes. If you can't treat and respect friendly democracies nicely, we too don't want you. Period
Trump just want a commission
@@randomstuffswithrrd when did that happen. S400 thing.
LOL ：D
@@randomstuffswithrrd when did US threaten to sanctions India over S400 buy?...casual
“Democracies don’t fight each other”.
What democracies? Democracy is just a shoe. the money is voting
You are not allowed to buy from my enemy even if the price is half of mine.
US and Russia are not at war currently. What enemy and why you think that?
@@Temerator1 ‘not at war' doesnt mean they cant not be rival to each other，economically or historically
@@Temerator1 enemy is someone who always hostile towards you, always opposing in whatever you do. It is not necessarily to be at war then considered enemy.
@@wangjim5839
Russia doesn't consider US an enemy.
One-sided rivalry is called something else - bullying (or trying to).
but the media says trump is in putins pocket.
Us politicians funded by US energy company's. Us politicians want Germany to buy from US corporations.
Liberal Socialist Exactly. That’s what happens when you let capitalists control your country.
The merger of business and government ... That's the textbook definition of fascism.
And, as I understand Russian gas is cheaper than the American' Then there is the environmental issue: American gas has to be transported by ships.
@@murraymicha yes, that's why germany opted for russian gas, FOR THE PEOPLE and the energy infrastructure building, we need cheaper gas to improve the pace at which we further develop the green house infrastructure.
@@user-dw1bb5fu3i Excuse me you mean the corona virus that control the whole world what a mess and drain the wealth on every each country including china, USA thanks
US sanctions? STOP using dollars!
Bitcoin.
so you would rather have russian and chinese (communist) influance in your country? this is not about 2 countries but 2 worlds
@@yilmazsertbolat4324 CIA talking point
@@yilmazsertbolat4324 It is the US that want to bifurcate the world, so they can maintain global domination
@@yilmazsertbolat4324 We all like to have multiple choices when facing an
important decision. One can use the choices/options to maximize the
better return/future.
this aged well
Why is Russian gas coming through the Ukraine okay but gas running directly from Russia to Germany be different.
Because Germany and France represent the Heart of the European Union and trump fears, that he will lose his grips on EU
You should ask to Hunter Biden, who has had associated with oil and gas oligarchs from Ukraine.
Because though the Ukraine the oligarchs and politians like Biden get their beak wet but not thought the Baltic
Edgelord of Edginess the Edgeth
Germany wil keep the peace for europe but they might drop the usa in next 10 years for being just as bad as the sovjets back in the day.
Because, the gas that passes through ukraine has a cost inserted by the ukrainian government, plus the theft that occurs in ukrainian territory, if removing these costs it is impossible for anyone to compete with russia in terms of price.
So Americans found it easier to make Russian gas more expensive than selling American gas cheaper.
The audacity that US senators to rule over Germany is beyond comprehension.
If would like to see how the US would react if it was the other way around.
@José Menendéz no need the next 4 years with Mr. Trump will be sufficient
The other way around? Well the Murican military will come to your country to spread their “democracy” and “freedom!” Bend over! That’s what will happen.
The audacity of German goverment to build a gas pipeline with under sanctions undemocratic Russia is beyond comprehension.
@@CASULL455 either way the Germans aren't doing anything illegal.
@@CASULL455 as if usa would be democratic. Lol
Why the US think they have something to dictate about German and europe energy-autonomy?!
Because russia is under SANCTIONS. Why does Germany think they can just ignore sanctions that were placed on russia by both the us AND the EU
@@jordanknight336 Sanctions is a language that will lead right to world war 3, it should have never been an option.
@@idyllsend6481 unlike annexing Crimea, the sovereign territory of Ukraine. That would never lead to war. What is the west to do when Russia begins to ANNEX neighboring territory? Sanctions are the most peaceful option available.
@@jordanknight336 Peaceful? Creating cannibals in Venezuela, bringing about a crisis and killing their economy? Yeah, sanctions aren't peaceful, it's the worst form of abuse. It has consequences worse than wars and it's the new ideal way for imperial US to push its political agenda with 0 losses.
@@jordanknight336 my friend, Russia stay sanctionated by germany. And germany do not buy more gas from russia because Nordstream 2. It just move directly to germany and no longer cross third countrys!
It seems that most people have no idea why nordstream 2 is under construction.
And also when germany will buy more Gas from Russia, its also no Part of US influence. It is a german and european Project and most european countrys are behind this!
The USA is doing a lot of hard stuff with his allys, more than ever since Trump this stup....... was elected by nearby 50% of Voter in the US. Trump is one of the most poor People and the anericans make this bad Person to theyr President.
The whole world is shaking his head about this until today. He is doing what he wants, he give no care about the needs of US-Allys. And because of this it starts more and more that the Allys give also no care in the needs and wishes of the US. The US get, what it sown.
Russian and German alliance... hmm where have I heard this before?
We are everything but not allied with Russia 🤣 nobody here trusts them and nobody outside the government understands why they're doing that
2020 not 1941
geo-politically it has always been a nightmare scenario for us, and great britian. i hope the president doesn't sanction the gemrans. i don't want to drive them even further into russias arms.
Without the U.S. to defend it..Germany might as well surrender to Russia! Lol!!!
@@Max0800 Wait, wait, wait. Russia and Germany were not allied during the second world war lol
An energy connection like this helps to stabilise tensions between Russia and the EU. Good for world peace.
suuure...
Say this again please
may be some people are born dumb
Why Germany must buy US energy where's the price is more than twice of Russia?
The strange thing is, if Germany buys gas from Russia it gives Germany leverage over Russia.
Germany can threaten to stop buying. Customer is king.
Simons Douglas good answer
Bung Kusi Because Russian prices are a lie? Not only that but they can extort Germany for higher prices.
Germans have forgotten they were occupied by the Soviets
@@gvi341984
lol ....
Only USA speak the truth??
Only pompeo can say he cheat, lie, and steal, and got away???
No way!!!
Bung Kusi Germany could drill the energy themselves but they do not want to. You think this is just about the US? Russia will use muscle proxies for sanctions against smaller European nation's
Dictator of the world.. Time to put him in his place..
Now train on your Willy first
Adam you don’t think we’d nuke back? ;)
@Adam woah now. I'm an american and I'm frustrated with my own countries actions for sure. But not mass murder. Not the answer. Just start cutting economic ties.
That didn't age so well.
Not at all Germany is looking for its own interests
Clearly not. Covid and their imploding export model is ending Chinese imports of German products. If America closes it's consumer market to Germany, you are finished as a functioning society. Germany exports 60% of it's GNP in products. Products that American easily get elsewhere, or make at home. The Soviet Union collapsed decades ago. We don't need you anymore. You had best come to terms with the USA while you still can.
@@corathus59 Most important export markets for Germany are China, France and the Netherlands - not the USA.
Germany doesn't need the USA anymore :-)
The USA will have to learn their new position in the world. And it is not "number one"!
@@migrationsforschermitbreit6744
Exactly. Also other EU countries and other anglosphere countries.
Export from Germany to USA specifically will not stop over Nordstream 2 anyways but even if it would Germany has the rest of the world to trade with - which is more than enough.
@@migrationsforschermitbreit6744
Leider ist die USA immer noch 1. aber China und Russland sind halt auch mächtig weswegen sich die USA nicht mehr alles erlauben kann wie vor 20 Jahren(Irak Krieg).
"One of the mistake which polictal analysts make is to think that Their enemies should be Our enemies". Nelson Mandela
One of his best quotes
Yup, a brilliant response to the dumb "you're either *for* us or *against* us"-rhetoric of the right wing.
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Thanks
Sure, Russia and Germany always went hand by hand. They invaded Poland together and started WW2. Why should Germany take into consideration needs or concerns of others? All that counts is money and best interest of Germany, isn’t it?
We want to free ourselves of being held hostage by the US.
You lost a world war, sadly that is the consequence. It's gonna be how it goes, unless a world order change happens.
Leave NATO then
@mrblurblur2003 : Yup ... Leave NATO and set up a European military block. US dominance is over and they'll probably be spending years to undo the damage Trump has done. They're attacking their own civilians, for crying out loud!
Greetz from the Netherlands.
You can't. Well actually you can but then the whole Ponzi scheme falls apart. It is called the US Dollar. Right Now everybody accepts it but once people stop then the whole Ponzi currency schemes: Dollars, Euros, Yen, RMB, etc. collapses.
@@theGoogol On this side of the Atlantic being the US, many Americans feel that Trump is fixing up the damage of the last 40 years. I understand that on your side of the Atlantic that isn't likely to be the case but Americans pick American leaders on what is best for America and not what is best for the World.
We need a diversification of energy supplies in Europe with different partner countries that can guarantee that supply. Many different so as not to depend on a single non-European guarantor. Apart from that we need politically, socially and nationally Germany and Russia back in Europe after so many years of humiliation and marginalization. So I fully support Nord Stream 2.
Its disastrous to have a Nord Stream 2 look at the map its your own protection.
@@allenlee2287 They don't believe in the fair and free trade that they speak so much about.
Well, I hope the news makes it clear to you why it was not the idea of the century to depend on Russian gas as a member of NATO.
LOL this aged like milk didn't it. Now enjoy licking the boots of Putin. I want to see how Germany can replace imported Russian energy.
How did that work out? Nord Stream 2 was the opposite of diversification. The 2 is a dead give away.
There is no other conversation except how will Ukraine be affected.
Друг В Украину tough luck, they shouldn’t have decided to go along with the US and their malign behaviour in the region. Russia was smart to bypass Ukraine.
@@sjive830 Not that smart. Your country will bite off more than it can chew at some point. Maybe in Syria, maybe in Ukraine, but it will happen.
@delonix regia You may think what you wish. We have to do what is in our best interests to prevent a larger war down the road. What I and my fellow citizens decide to do will not likely be what is in the interest of a dictator looking to expand his empire.
@delonix regia I get that you feel differently, that Russia should be able to keep parts of Georgia and Ukraine and nibble off another piece here or maybe take over the Baltic states soon, but I think from my perspective enough is enough and that if we allow that to happen we will end up fighting a bigger war. This lesson was learned from the Germans in the run up to World War 2, and perhaps a bit from Japan as well. Tolerating people stealing other countries territory is not something we plan to do regardless of what you may think about it. If you want to call that trash talk, so be it, but you are the aggressor here.
@@sjive830 Lebensraum
Germany can and should decide for its own interests, besides, the US is largely irrelevant now..
North Stream 2 fiasco example proofs exact opposite to what you are trying to sell here, update your red book comrade
irrelevant is not the word. i would say it's none of america's business.
The United States is far from irrelevant. This is a wildly ignorant statement. Germany exports more than 100 Billion Euros worth of goods to the United States annually. It is a major trade partner. The US is the majority trade partner with a plethora of nations. It is also the sole super power. It spends billions in defense of Europe annually. Don't let your feelings cloud your rationality. No reason able person would call the US irrelevant.
And it can , if it chooses to prop a major anti democratic power financially then it’ll face the price
Delcio yea this comment section doesn’t like listening to facts.
Why should every countries have to obey the US. Every country has it own rules, law and their own rights to do what they want. Why need permission from the US?
Cause EU is a colony
Because US is a biggest bully ever under donald trump.
Because Russia is a dictatorship who supports terrorists and illegitimate governments
@megakids Really? I didn't know that France, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine were part of the US
You have to accept US liquid gas. How dare you not obey the US law. Europe is the puppet of US.
I remember when eu was unhappy with Italy accepting Russia and China's help in doctors and ventilators when they didn't send any during March. They said that accepting help would make Italy favour them during political discussions in EU. Now i wonder how compromising could a oil business between germany and russia be and if it would make Germany favour Russia in politics discussions in EU mmmh i guess, double standards ?
@@billithekat1088 It was not my aim to create a "us vs you" discussion, i was just pointing out the impression i got from the two episodes. Our pm Conte had an interview some days after those facts happened in which he had to almost justify his actions and had to specify two times that accepting Russia's help would not change Italy's mind on matters regarding Russia and EU. I would give you the link but like i said i don't remember the journal and i've seen so many interviews he did during the time that It would be pointless searching for that one now; they were either a german or an EU channel, if i well remember.
I don't think Germany would get bias by doing this business, what's putting me off is that while those things were implied in our case it wasn't even thought in the german one even if the most dangerous situation is the second case since we're talking about big money. Just that.
@@areswalker5647 tbh it's the first time I read or hear that there were concerns about Italy accepting help from Russia. If this was a topic in German media it must have gone under with all the news about rising deaths and infections and a country in such a total lockdown. At least in the public eye noone (accept those who denied the existance of the virus) would have had concerns if a country in such a devastating situation would take what ever help it could get.
But politicians aren't the public eye so it's plausible to me that some of them actually did express such concerns. Easy for them and their twisted minds to even think about something like that while a country is in such a need.
@@pami333 your words are really kind thank you :) as i've already stated i can't confirm it was a german channel or from some other specific nation because i can't remember now, and obviously my words were referred to politicians and media but not the population of said country. Actually i'm happy germans didn't think those things because i have to admit they were quite offensive especially when said in those difficult situations
@@billithekat1088 are you nut? Germany did every thing to make the situation unbearable for Italy, kept supplies for itself. Don't worry, Italians have learned EU spirit and Germany better. The future will tell.
It's more just the cheaper gas, we need cheaper energy for the people to not revolt over the hight gas prices and to make a better green energy infrastructure
Extraterritorial sanctions are an absurdity against allies , Germany is still a Sovereign Nation and must be free to do business with whom she wants.
Germany will not yeild to any country invading her sovereignty.
Wtih China too that give us corona virus.
@@allenlee2287 Your savage US Dad spreading the virus, now 200,000 dead.
Now you see that Germany is not sovereign independent nation
Germany does bot behave like an ally and should not be treated as one
As an American I decidedly disagree we have no business telling Germany who they can trade with!
jo phoenix It's economy is tied to the EU meaning the Russians will have complete control of neighboring nation's
@@gvi341984 Lol... the only one having control over anything at the moment is the US over Poland. Poland imports US LNG gas at a hefty surcharge. Apparently the Polish market is not enough for the US fracking gas industry, they want Germany too. If the Poles want to bend over for Trump that's their choice.
@@gvi341984 Wow, so in other words you didn't know that Russia has already been selling gas to Germany for over 60 YEARS now?
Russia has precisely ZERO control of EU countries and the new pipeline won't change that.
@@jaikee9477 Yes? That's the point I've been making with the over dependantance on Russian energy . Instead of being a nuisance the Russo muscle is pushing for harder deals
@José Menendéz soviet occupation was a lie? Didn't exist
Germany shouldn't be pressured or coerced in their decisions. Respect their sovereignty America!
Nothing to do with sovereignty but that’s the argument someone would make to justify closer financial ties to anti democratic regime. Germans are free to be sovereignty from America and they completely are . But if they wanna help fund the Putin regime they will pay a price for that and that upsets you . You are free to have your own policies but USA is also sovereignty and you aren’t respecting its sovereignty when it chooses to tax things coming into its country . This comment is actually ironic .
You act like america is making decisions in Germany , it’s not....it’s simply going to just make its own decisions on how it trades with Germany from decisions Germany made itself. Typical anti American rhetoric
@@easyebs5841 no. America is the one sanctioning Germany for Germany's own decision to purchase has from Russia. Economically, it is cheaper, but politically, it helps to flchannel funds into Russia, which USA doesn't want. Just like Huawei, and many other Chinese companies, like Tiktok and WeChat. If fail you to see how the US operates, you're blind.
Xavier K this anti America view never has a sense of perspective or practical viewpoint or questions what happens after the decoupling of America . Look at your alternatives wise guy
@@easyebs5841 you're the only non brainwash on this entire thread it looks like.. clearly Germany is going down that road of breaking their alliance with the western world no matter what, goodbye and good luck with that to them
@@easyebs5841 Anti-democratic regime: you must mean Trump. Turn on the light and see reality.
What would the US do if it is Germany making demands on the US.
Well the bombing runs in the old Yugoslavia were more in behalf or Germany than the US. Same goes for Libya but with baguette and the Roast Beef’s house of lirds as beneficiaries
As an American we should not be doing this to Germany. Germans sorry we have government that is doing this. Hopefully this will change very soon.
They seem to have forgetten Germany is no puppet country. We Germans are very proud and will never accept this bs
Facts Are You shouldn’t. Trump is now executing Putin's wishes by dividing all of Occident, mainly Europe. Here is Putin’s simple plan: divide and conquer.
Germany is best country in whole world
M M where ru from?
@@Matiraitsmeupdates Saudi?
zhanglini berlin
Having three anti-Russian commentators is hardly a fair conversation
So Rusia business must follow USA order?
The fact is that Germany asks the U.S. to provide tens of thousands of soldiers and spend billions of dollars each year to protect Germany from Russia. That seems rather silly when Germany is going to provide billions annually to the Russian military each year with this project.
Chris
Why should a conversation between america and germany include a russian participant?
@@antman7673 Even during the 'cold war' Russian gas was a reliable source of energy for all Europeans that wanted it, why? Because it is right on Europe's doorstep. How unlikely is it to transport liquid gas 5000km from US (plus convert it) is less expensive than piped gas from good old reliable Russia. Just saying.
@@Chris-il7mi By doing so you are paying for the very weapons that are being aimed at you. That is the problem with it.
This aged well
This has aged well
It's so infuriating to see how condescending that American reporter was. He's acting as if this is being built in one of his colonies
Frankly, he has misjudge how tired of America most ppl of the world is. You don't tell ppl what to do....OR ELSE WE WILL SANCTION YOU? Wow, to a country like Germany 🇩🇪, world leaders in there own rights??
My comparator is this: German tech vs U.S tech. It dispells any notion of Germany inferiority.
Germany needs to banish to the past and image of an errand boy that's told what to do..or else you get a scolding!
Imagine living next door to the US! Their arrogance towards the rest of the world has escalated to the point where we check each day to see who trump has set his sights on. Last week we took a hit. Today is Germany. China is ongoing. He just banned private flights to Cuba. But all of this sabre rattling will end when he looses the election.
@@treseoreilly1953 He won't lose an election, he can't run a 3rd time in 2024.
@@0isay do you want 4 more years of this?? Really?
@@0isay oh he's lost and if by chance he gets in then it was rigged
When will Germany become an independent country again?
After 2 world wars, I'm gonna say never. Even West/East unification had to be done secretly because literally everyone hated the idea of a strong Germany.
@@davidkelly4210 😂😂😂😂😂strong germany 😂😂😂😂😂
@ hahahaha..
Yeah right..
i think never.
Why would they want to? They own the EU. Biggest market in the world.
Isn't NATO protecting the US Interest in Europe also ? Aside from the Interest of the EU Countries ?.....
NATO is going DOWN. Portugal and Spain LEAVE NATO and join Russian forces in Evora for military exercises
My understanding is that Germany needs Russian Gas... Not only for Residential Heat, but for industry. Stopping Nordstrom 2 would not seem to serve Germany's interests.
The pipeline will be completed soon.
So will Germany.
Germany, it the time for you to on the wrong side of the world war again! Go for it! Do not change your position in the world war! Small mind people! By the way, I am Chinese! We were on the right side last time, I am sure , we are on the wrong side this time!
@underratedFancyFashion hunter I wonder what would happen if Europe were to completely close it's market to the US and all the European companies were to leave the US and take all the jobs with them. I'm sure the American population is going to the trilled, especially in the current situation.
@underratedFancyFashion hunter i like how you call him a russian troll, but don't reflect in your own behavior
@underratedFancyFashion hunter coming up with an argument is hard, I know
The USA has gone mad...!
Oh they have been mad for a long time
@@candicem9344 If it wasn't obvious in 2016 it should be by 2021!
@Lone star Well, according to the polls he still has a fighting chance to be re-elected, so it's hardly him alone.
Hope it doesn't escalate to ridiculous levels...we have reached ridiculous levels
This hasn’t aged well for Germany
Germany is a sovereign country that can make its own independent decisions. It is not subservient to the US, as the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Nord Stream 2 is good for Germany.
China and Cuba︰First time?
Germans must understand that America likes to resolve things by bullying. 💪
Correction champ - via mass Murders!!
After saving Europe in 2 world wars We’ve earned that right
Germany has military restrictions after WW2,but I think it's unfair to dictate them on their economy.
Aftger the usa germany pays the most in the alliance if we talk rough monney.
If Germany don’t secure its energy needs for the future then ready for blackout. Indeed Germans wouldn’t let that to happen so will make the project. Great country 🇩🇪
This project is political, Germany wants to be carbon neutral so it does not need it
André Rothweiler it is not that easy to relay totally on renewable sources of energies. Therefore, it is essential for German manufacturing economy to get this project. USA just don’t want it because of Russia and even don’t allow Pakistan to make partnership with China. If USA don’t like such project that isn’t mean it’s political agenda.
@@uj313 In Pakistan its different, Poland, Ukraine and Baltics are against it (half Europe). Russia uses energy as a tool, Germany already imports all the gas truth other pipelines. It only does it so Ukraine would lose money because of gas transit, so it can pressure it even more. I understand if you are not next to Russia, then Russia is a big friend, but if I would live next to China I would say it differently about China
André Rothweiler I don’t agree because Saudi-Arabia supplies almost half of the oil but at what extend it uses energy as a tool. Russia alone can work on space, heavy machinery industry and taking a big role in the world politics whereas western and US allies are still together not equal to Russia. So, it’s time to work together not pushing others for own interest.
Germany produces the most expensive electricity in Europe and still imports to meet supply demand gap. That’s why they need a solid backup because their half of the energy consumption is from renewables and imports from neighboring countries. This surly a good deal as long as Germany needs it.
Russia offers a much cheaper gas and with the construction of nordstream2 gas supply will be consistent & efficient to meet the demand of european market. the best result that can come out of this very project is the vast possibilities of a future cooperation between Russia and Germany also not to forget the EU at large. With Russia having huge economic interest inside EU territories this will further ensure that Russia will protect their money machines and not to attack or go to war with them. Think about it.
USA is against this project because they wish Germany will buy gas from them which are more expensive otherwise they USA will put a crumbling economic sanctions on Germany.
1. Russia didn't force Germany to buy from them or risk going to war.
2. USA on the other hand threatened Germany with economic sanctions (which is an act of war and illegal in accordance with the UN)
*Ukraine all these while badmouthing Russia to the west stand against this project because they will lose their cut from Russian gas that flows to Europe using their pipeline.
Germany is only looking at gas as a medium term solution while more renewable energy sources are established.
What is the American problems the Russian and German are just doing their business
@Oegoenoegoe that's what'll likely happen if it's not lifted, germany might put sanctions on european countries denying the export of military resources or denying military trade altogether, and who's to blame for forcing germany to do it? That's right, the US for being way too snoopy and other peoples' business
It is so nice to see Germans' mind becomes clearer by this time, sensing limitless and brutal greed of the US.
Does anyone remember on what was 25 and 30 years ago?
So, pipeline construction and supply of cheap oil and gas was fiercely obstructed by the US only at the time.
Why? It is obvious. Because EU with Germany would have been strong and eveyone wanted to buy Deutsch Mark instead of the ever crazy printed and inflated USD.
I hope this short refresh helps a bit about real apprehesion of true nature of the big brother.
People are waiting for two things
1. Corona to end
2. Nov. election results
Correction: "People in your country are waiting for two things".
@Leo Quite certain, actually.
US maniacs and egocentrists are focusing on American things, people, weather, sports, and food and drinks....and gleefully forgetting about the rest of the world. They have surrendered their thinking to a commando of insanely bragging warmongers strutting arrogantly around the globe and threatening all nations into submission.
@so good in what context is this dangerous for these countries? Poland for example is just angry because they wanted to be the gas exporter of the EU
@so good where do you even get the idea of Russia turning off the gas when this very pipeline is part of their main income source and biggest money maker? If anything, then Russia will get more dependent on Germany for staying in business. We only use Russian gas for roughly 1/3 of our gas import into Germany, this is far from being overly dependent. You also forgot the fact that Russia is providing us with gas for over 60 years now and never cut it off. So your argument has litterally zero ground to stand on.
There is nothing wrong about nordstream2. Americans simply want to keep germany and germans down, dependent on them.
Yessss!
Germany gave the world two world wars which the world still paying for, on top of that, Germany doesn’t pay their bills, Germany wants the USA to protect them from Russia while doing business with it. Germany is NOT fooling anyone. Trump 2020.
@@oswaldC2243 to protect Germany from Russia? To protect for what?
The German government complained about America pulling some ten thousand troops out of Germany, perhaps we should pull all of our troops out. WW2, ended a long time ago and we/Americans shouldn’t be there anymore.
@@oswaldC2243 WW1 STARTED 1911 ON THE BALKANS...WW2 STARTED 1931 IN CHINA . Our historical reality is different !
America's interests and Germany's interest are not always the same.
It's really not on America to decide over the fate of Europe.
Does Germany tell the U.S. with whom they can make deals ? 🧐
@stack Whale repeating that narrative will not make it true
The US does not pay for Germany´s defence never has and never will. The US only supports it´s own interests
BRUH the American in this debate is there pretending the US isn't also playing into the division scheme ... okay now. ☕
Germany has to decide for their own. The same way the US does. EU first ! Economy first !
this will eventually sparks the ideology of protectionism and impacts heavily on world's economy
EU is doomed and you know it. What did the EU do with Covid? All 28 countries shut their borders to the others. National interests will alway come before the EU and Brussels. Besides the northern countries can no longer afford those to the south. The US does now under Trump. Before not so much and that is why Trump is in office in the first place and to secure its border.
America must apply the Law worldwide as the strongest nation in human history and punish those that disagree
I agree. But when America pays for a large number of troops on German territory for Germany's defence then the US has certain rights.
@@jamesc2899 please bring back all your troops to America. The troops here not for protekting germany. Today at first they are here to use them as Base for US-Opperations in nearer and middle east! How will the US fight in Irak, in Afghanistan ... without base in Ramstein for example? It is the US headquarter of Airforce in Europe.
You should not make any claim to inteference in internal and external german sovereignty just because US is allowed to use german military base for theyr troops and operations.
And only Putin will be happy, if US pull back troops from Europe.
How good is it to watch this today?!
Totally one sided interview and no represantative of the other perspective 😑
DW is a very biased sort of broadcast organization, and is anti US
Yes because the mainstream US media isnt very one sided it seems
@@johnvanvliet2076 anti US? DW? Lol
@@NotUnymous Yes, John Van Vliet is TOTALLY right. I have noticed that a very long time ago.
@@francoislechanceux5818 then you shouldnt have problem to give me a quick Link and/or Timestamp on where we could find those outrages anti-US behavior.
Why the US is controlling Germany deals 😅
Because they’re a member of nato. It’s not just the US. Also nobody really trusts Germany.
Everybody just stop using the US$ for trading oil, stop allowing the US having so much debt.
Nice to see the host is impartial ;)
It's Imperative
that no Eurasian challenger emerges capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America
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Zbignew Brzezinski (Nicholas J Spykman)
USA: BUY OUR GAS!! BUY OUR GAS!!! BUY OUR GAS!!! Or else.
OR ELSE USA WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT USA HAS CONTRIBUTED SINCE NATO WAS CREATED!!!!!! GERMANY IA A NATO MEMBER AND USA IS A NATO MEMBER AND USA HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK GERMANY FOR IT!!!!!!! NOTHING IS FOREVER IF NATO MEMBERS WANT TO BUY FROM RUSSIA THEY CAN!!!!!! JUST DO NOT THINK USA WILL KEEP SENDING THOSE MILLIONS EVERY YEAR TO NATO BECAUSE USA WILL NOT!!!!! YOU CAN NOT TAKE THE BEST FROM HERE AND THE BEST FROM THERE !!!!!! AND PRETEND THERE IS NO PROBLEM!!!!!!!
The american from the LA Times had no argument at all, he only said random things!
welcome to DW "news"
His whole argument was "we told you to bend over, you refused, so we're gonna shove it in forcefully. Your fault". It's the same logic they use on Iran China Venezuela Cuba Iraq Libya etc, basically anyone who doesn't lick them the way they like.
Feels different when YOU are on the receiving end, huh?
Typical empty headed Yankee.
DW won't bring on anyone who knows anything and those who actually know anything won't say it on German TV lol.
Germany has no need to fight sanctions with counter-sanctions against the US. Like it or not, Germany is the voice and leader of Europe. It clearly understands that peaceful coexistence with Russia is the better way forward. Germany and Europe's future prosperity hinges on this economic interaction and cooperation with neighbouring Russia. Not alone that, but it's clear to the world that the US is a rapidly declining power which seems to be completely overlooked by the panel. Germany is looking to the future and shaping its long-term planning accordingly while the US mindset has lost its direction, as clearly demonstrated by the panel, to its ideological clinging to a defunct past.
There is nothing more freightening to the US than Russia and Germany united (an elder US General stated that). So the US will always try to separate those countries apart - a dangerous game for Russia and Germany (and Europe as a whole), less to the US. But since China comes up more and more, Id like to pick Putin the EU to be friend with, not China. The US wants Puting not to pick at all understandably.
@@santaclaus0815 Russia and Germany are not United! Saying that doesn't make it so! We're back at Great Russian delusions of grandeur!
@@tolmie1141 I didn't say that Germany and Russia are united. I said that that is the biggest fear of the US after WW2.
@@santaclaus0815 Why would we fear that? actually I guess we would because if that happened we would have the responsibility of liberating Germany for the second time so yeah I guess you could say that.
@@tolmie1141 „Why would we fear that?“ >>> I was also surprised by that statement, but it makes sense - at least from a post WW2 perspective. In my opinion it can be broken down to these aspects:
1. Ingenuity: If you look at WW2 and count the best / most effective machines of war, by far most of them belong either to the USSR or Germany: Germany built the finest, most advanced weapons (the most dangerous but not the cheapest) and Russia the best regarding cost-usefulness-ratio. So the US could hardly be supreme by technology nor by manufactoring efficiecy aspects.
2. Geography: the US would be forced into a 2-front-war (even 3-front war if you consider the polar sea). Not cool. So the US would be practically an island - like the UK in WW2. Cut away from the other continents the US would need support by close neighbours e.g. for food supply, but the way to southern america over land is narrow and therefore sensitive to attacs from both oceans. And I am not sure if that General back then really considered Mexico or any carribean island (maybe puerto rico) to even be an (useful) ally to the US.
3. Manpower: the size of the population of those 2 countries combinded could make also a challenge to the US - especially since Russia is airy populated regarding its enormous size, so could grow massively with the necessary time given.
4. Natural ressources: Germany and Russia COMBINED dont lack important natural ressources for fueling economy and weapon manufacturing and have „direct access“ to the huge euroasian continent. The US are dependent e.g. on arabic oil which is at the other side of the globe from a northern american perspective.
Remember: the US had their hands full of work fighting Germany & Japan, but these countries hadn’t had logistic contact, could not support each other directly and efficiently. And Japan is a much easier target than Russia since it is quite smaller and far more densly populated than Russia. Russia has even a slightly bigger size of population than Japan has.
I admit: From a 1949 view on the world some facts from back then are not that much thinkable any more e.g. that Russia still would have the support of its eastern european satellite states and the fact that Germany was quite lucky in overrunning Europe. From today’s point of view you would probably pick China instead of Germany or Russia.
„we would have the responsibility of liberating Germany for the second time“ >>> 1. Why „liberate“? You think Germany would necessarily be a dictatorship once again? Have a look at your president! 2. If so it would be the 3rd time ;-)
If the US pull their troops out of europe, europe has 2 options: rearm against Russia or make peace with Russia. Russia is a close neighbour of the EU so war would not be a wise decision - for either side. The US would not allow Russian or chinese rockets stationed closely to US territory either - lets say in Mexico or Cuba or even Hawaii. on the other side Russia and China have US / NATO troops next door: Canada, Norway, baltic states, Turkey, Taiwan.
And after a year Nord strem 2 was stopped
Hey, can you bring in atleast one guest that defends German sovereignty?! That Los Angels writer is a complete sellout clown!
I'm German and I can tell you for sure, Germany is in fact NOT a sovereign country.
History teaches us when Germany start resisting up, a bigger change starts.
Are you talking about the WWI and WWII?
Germany never learns its lesson
Dan Master oh no! We Germans are handling our own foreign affairs in a friendly manner? How dare we! You realize if Russia gets a larger portion of its money from Germany and Germany decides „nah, we dont want it anymore“ Russia is screwed right? And considering the strength of the green movement here in Germany, we wont be buying much natural gas from Russia for long, its rather temporary
I‘ m German. And I totally agree with the USA. I think it‘s a catastrophy, that we have this gas pipeline from Russia. I hope that our politicians will wake up. As a German, I feel ashamed that we have this gas pipeline from Russia. I would never have done this. The politicians who did this shouldn‘t be elected from us Germans. I love the USA. What the German woman is saying is not my opinion. I‘m German, too. And I think it’s very clear. We are an ally of the USA and I want us to behave that way.
Thé reason behind the sanctions on germany is purely his réélection 😁
A sovereign country should be able to make decisions, right or wrong is nobody,s business.
Germany is NOT a sovereign country tho..
@@BigBrother-up8dc correct, its not
100% correct
Like how a country can elect to place tariffs and taxes on whomever they like
Even if that desisons make your enemies stronger ?
China is doing to many wrongs to not look the other way. I cant say anything about this since i dont what is going on.
West-Germany is supplied with natural gas by USSR/Russia since the early 1970s. Always a reliable trading-partner even in cold-war times. So no need to buy expensive American fracking gas.
@Ben Ghazi who should be trusted in your oppinion?
@Ben Ghazi that was a good one.
you delivered a perfect description of the u.s foreign politics
This project is under construction since 2011 according to wikipedia. More than enough time to raise concerns. Now, when its nearly done, some backbenchers crawl out of the woodworks hoping for a market for their fracking gas/ grabing votes from workers in that filed, while neither logistics nor prices are nearly in a state of competing.
Wait until the American tell the Canadians it can't sell its oil and gas to other countries; except America.
US must understand people are getting sick about their sanction & their selfish motives.
*Last time the world sanctioned Germany it didn't end so well*
I agree with Mr. Kirschbaum that ignoring the wishes and complaints of other members of your own trading bloc is ill-advised... but what does the U.S. have to do with any of this?
They've been committed to the free flow of goods and services by forcing boundaries open (forcing Japan to open to trade in 19th c., forcing Iran to keep Hormuz Strait free, etc.)- but it suddenly forgets that when it benefits a rival geopolitical power exclusively (China is acceptable because Americans are used to cheap goods, an embargo would lead to revolts).
Why is it interfering with 2 other countries' affairs if its relationship with Europe is military, not economic?
The contention that every action, even economic, is political- is true. But I would expect the U.S. to embargo China and Saudi Arabia then, if it actually cared about political rights of other countries' citizens.
They're simply being selective against a foreign power that is a relatively easy target to hate. Opportunistic, but not principled in their actions.
Ukraine is not a member of the EU yet! It is not "eastern EU".
“Buy US produced LNG or suffer the consequences “
You played to much civilization 😁
Or buy US natural gas and suffer the consequences of the US threatening to stop the supply any time the want
Another solution make the pipeline from USA 😄😄
@tea and biscuits it's almost impossible plus distance the depth of this ocean makes it both economically and technologically demanding project in the world.
I thought we are living in a free world, globalisation trading, but the US wants to dictate how and who we are allowed to trade, is time to tell the US to shift their army's base back home. Germany is a sovereign country, they can make their law who and how to get the best deal for their own country.
@so good Nordstream 2 gives European manufacturers a competitive advantage on energy cost,
United states doesn't have allies but Interest
How would one conclude that the poisoning of Navalry is not a CIA
Navalny would by personally phoning the russian organization, Department assasination.
Isn't it a bad idea sanctioning other countries, when your own economy is in decline anyway? Germany will just turn more elsewhere, like more closer to Russia and even China.
It's doing that anyway.
but problem is US economy is not declining, its growing way stronger than EU
Ya think!
@@umar7182 uhh!!?
This comment didnt age well
German & Russia: "we're gonna built a gas tunnel"
US: "I'm offended.. Sanction!"
No sorry ...Germany: to..Please US..protect us ..spend on our security..I cannot pay for NATO..but please protect me from Russia ...USA ..sure ..until Trump came, Trump ..pay your small agreed share ...Germany ..I will take Most critical Energy from Russia while you protect me from Russia
America has no ground anymore.
@@granand we never needed protection from Russia in the first place. Those troops are just here for easy access into the Middle East
@@John_Doe448 It's your sovereign right, it is respectable to get out of NATO according to me. You cannot ride too long with each leg on two bikes going in different directions. Having said that, this world is the most foolish, make-believe world. Sanctions on Russia for taking a piece of land which was their own, Russian speaking population? but Cozy up and forget sanctions, give technology and exempt China of various tariffs as they take over Inner Mongolia, then Xinjiang and steamrolling killing thousands of Buddhists, and occupy India land with clandestine nuclear technology to N.Korea and Pakistan .. threatening all neighbors, putting nations on debt trap? The joke, they are UN permanent members a temple of Democracy while they never have elections.. Yeah, crazy selfish world.
A lot of comments against US..but why not Germany say Bye Bye NATO..then thus whole double game is put to end. ..
The troops moved closer to Russia 🇷🇺
I am an Engineer and not a Politician - but all of this talk seems to ignore the ageing pipeline interconnectors supplying the whole of Europe ( not only Germany) with Russian Gas, also the decline in Supplies via Tunisian interconnecter via Sicily in to Italy means that these supplies are reducing. That pipeline too is reaching its use by dates - so with reducing revenues- there is not the sums of money available to upgrade or replace all of these. Therefore in this system it is important for all nations that these interconnectors are upgraded and replaced (we cannot simply replace an entire pipeline infrastructure over night !!! It is a pathetic stance to block these - because right now there is sufficient investment in the sector to upgrade them . Putin himself also made comments to this effect too - I know that these pipelines have a design life of 20-30 years - well the existing lines are de-rated because of lifetime erosion etc wear on pump stations etc - therefore they cannot be operated at maximum original design pressures and volumetric transfer rates - this is normal. A pipeline is a far far more efficient means of transporting oil gas and chemicals over land. Not only efficiency in volumes but reduces over land exhaust emissions from road tankers. At a time when the world needs to significantly reduce emissions then pipelines are an obvious choice - and especially throughout the densely populated nations in Europe. It reduces congestion it reduces wear on roads it reduces the potential for road tanker collisions and spills. So all these facts seem to brushed away under the carpet and instead we make up a list of reasons for derailing a system that has operated and supplied Europe and the UK since the end of world war 2. So why after 70 years ( Cold War period included ) is it such an immediate issue? One reason only and that is super power positioning America is slipping 1 = China, 2 = Europe 3 or 4 is now Russia / USA or is it USA / Russia ??? We also have the rise of Asian countries to the global stage - but not under colonialist controls but on the back of their own trading and commercial positions - these too also happen to have the largest populations too (market place) so here we have China, India, Malaysia, Vietnam Bangladesh these previously subdued nations are now increasingly using the same commodities and energy supplies previously enjoyed by the western aristocratic ruling countries - now in a global economy- these countries are having an increasing say on how the world is run. I don’t believe that Americans - used to being “the leader of the Western world” are relishing the position that they have now placed themselves into …
It's a valid argument actually. However the incentive most certainly is more of financial nature.
billions of dollars have already been spent by big corporations from the EU. Germany has the pipelines running all over Europe. Big $$
Valid?