Pretty Hate Machine - Down In It / Happiness In Slavery / Burn (Synth Lead)
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2020
- One of the most prominent and distinctive synthesizers in the sonic arsenal of Nine Inch Nails in the early days of the band (1988-1995, the era encompassing "Pretty Hate Machine", "Broken", and "The Downward Spiral" and their associated tour cycles) was the Sequential Circuits Prophet VS.
The Prophet VS is the source for the deep, growling portamento solo-synth which is used on a variety of Nine Inch Nails songs throughout the aforementioned era, including "Down In It", "Happiness In Slavery", and "Burn". It was also used to create the short, percussive melody tone heard in "Sin" (our recreation of that sound is documented in another video here on our CZcams channel - • Pretty Hate Machine - ... ).
Unfortunately, the unique custom ICs at the heart of the Prophet VS are finicky: units from the era are prone to failure and parts are scarce, which has driven up pricing in the vintage market for well-kept units in good working order (currently US$4000-$5000 in mint condition); however, sound designers looking to harness the sound of the Prophet VS can get 95% of the way there by using other wavetable synths which contain ROM samples of the VS' waveforms, such as the Waldorf Microwave XT, the Waldorf Blofeld, or the Studiologic Sledge (which uses a Waldorf Blofeld engine).
The following examples are our recreations of the Prophet VS solo-synth sound featured on "Down In It", "Happiness In Slavery", and "Burn", programmed on the Studiologic Sledge 2.0 Black Edition.
Intro music: Ian Staer "Fundamental Assumptions" - ianstaer.bandcamp.com
Pretty Hate Machine:
Adam Nelson - Lead Vocals
Kelly Flusk - Stage Left Guitar, Vocals
Danny Candia - Stage Right Guitar, Electronic Percussion, Vocals
Jordan Mattacchione - Bass, Vocals
Ian Staer - Keyboards, Electronic Production, Vocals
Brandon Hinson - Drums
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I always come back for the intro. So soothing and comforting, yet slightly eerie. Love it
Thanks! It's an original composition by Ian Staer, available at ianstaer(dot)bandcamp(dot)com if you're interested in hearing more! Ian also records as ST∆ER -- staer(dot)bandcamp(dot)com -- and his latest album "Equilibrium" was mixed by Chris Vrenna from Nine Inch Nails / Tweaker. Chris and Ian are currently working together on the next ST∆ER release!
this video is so incredibly satisfying and ive watched it about a billion times
^^^
then why it "only" has 16.000 views
Yo dude more of these nine inch nails synth videos I watch your videos all the time dude
Thank you so much for watching! More videos on the way for sure :)
Great recreation! I love how hearing these synths from the earlier days isolated sounds like boss fight music from 16 bit games... :D
I´, a total Trent fan. I used him as a role model, I studied audiovisuals, later sound, and playing guitar and piano. But never got a job in any professional place, in Spain is almost impossible, everything is a "vicious circle" the only thing we get is after complete your studies you have to make an "X" amount of hours as apprentice in local TV, and If you are very lucky sound studios. Never got in the Trent cleaning the studio during the day, makin PHM during the night.
Really beatiful synth, and you nail the sound and notes.
Thank you for watching! I hope you keep pursuing music and engineering, you never know when an opportunity will present itself.
I always new it was a VS-type sound… I had those waves on my Korg Wavestation… but never knew the history of the synths. Nice video!
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! The Korg Wavestation is also a monster synth, designed by some of the same engineers who were responsible for the Prophet VS: post Sequential bankruptcy, some ended up in Korg R&D, others landed at Yamaha and worked on the SY22/SY35 vector synthesizers. Similar concepts, each with a different execution and resulting character -- but all sharing the same creative team!
*Hard to find because Trent Reznor smashed the shit out of most of them :)
Oh my fucking god...😩😭 please keep making more videos this is exactly the kind of thing I've been waiting 12 years to see on CZcams...
Thank you so much for watching
(I apologize if this is a repeat more or less - CZcams appears to not have posted my original comments) This video introduced me to and made me purchase a Sledge! Thank you for that as well as for your breakdown off the patch another comment!
Waldorf have the Prophet VS waves available formatted for loading into a Microwave XT, which I am excited to attempt on my Blofeld!
I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to know more about their rig from PHM to Further Down The Spiral, if you guys would care to share more???
i love the sledge
1:47 on loop forever :)
You nailed it. As a massive industrial fan only just crossing over from guitar to keys, are there any plugin sample packs or have you made any to create these sounds? eg a demo of how to pull it off using Massive?
I wish I could put together a video like that for you, but I'm 100% hardware and I don't use VSTs / software instruments (NOT suggesting hardware is better than software or any of those juvenile arguments, trust me -- it's just how things shook out for me over the years). However, what I'm doing here can probably be done on something like Massive or Serum based on my understanding of those software instruments' underlying principles of operation!
Yo that down it riff is nasty as hell when it's louder like that
Thanks! It's a fun lick to play, too. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I’d love a tutorial on how you made those sounds!
Thanks for watching Dustin! I can give you a rundown of the architecture of the sound in this video.
Osc 1 uses the Sledge's wavetable oscillator. Oscillator 2 is a triangle wave, slightly detuned a few percent, and set to be heavily FM'd by Osc 1. Oscillator 3 is a plain old square-wave, an octave lower and detuned a little bit from Osc 1/2, to add low-end weight. I mixed in some noise also, to simulate the audible clock of the Prophet VS' DAC.
LPF is a little past half, with Keytrack at about 2/3rds of the range of the control.
Both envelopes are fast attack, high decay & sustain, and about 50% on release (a nice fast "organ" style envelope).
Add heavy chorus and a little reverb, adjust glide/portamento to taste, and make sure the voice mode is set to Mono so you can only trigger one note at a time.
Use these settings as a jumping-off point, and have fun experimenting!
Trent broke them all
PERFECT!!!
Awesome video!🎹👌👍 Thank you for spotlighting some of the sound design techniques used by Trent. Nine Inch Nails was a huge bad for me That started me on my Road to my first major Love Industrial. I read in a interview with Future Music Magazine us version a few years back when he was promoting "with teeth" him talking about the story of him first getting the prophet vs. Him just buying it from the music shop and having it in his backseat car with the window down and the keyboard sticking out cuz it couldn't fit. And it started to rain and the keyboard got wet and he tried to dry it out, but the oscillators were a little weird after that. He said after each year after it kept getting a little weirder?🎹💫💀😵 On top of wavetable synthesizers. I always wanted a "microwave XT". I think piece of kit is so badass! That digital synthesis with that much knob control. A thing of beauty!🎹🎧💫😵👌😎👍 BrAp oN!!¡!✋✌
Thanks for watching, Max! I have a Microwave XT as well ;-) One of the cool things about the Studiologic Sledge 2.0 is that its wavetable oscillator contains the same waves as the Microwave XT, so you can start to play with those sorts of sounds for a fraction of the price; however, the user interface of the Sledge seems focused primarily on standard subtractive-synthesis workflow, whereas the Microwave XT is tweaking heaven: two wavetable oscillators as opposed to the Sledge's one, and complex multi-stage envelopes. A thing of beauty indeed! Hope to catch you at one of our shows when we can get back out there safely.
@@Pretty_Hate_Machine Would love to see you guys play! Thank you.🙏✌
"Burn"---starts off with the evil Tritone \m/
Incredible work! I am interested myself in how to achieve such a result (recreating sounds from records or even creating new ones from scratch). If I may ask, which was your learning path? Did you have any formal education or are you self-taught? In the last case, I would be curious to know which would be the best sources to start learning. Thank you and keep up the great work!
Lol - I wouldn't call 94/95 "early" for NIN, but nice demoes 🙂. Takes me back to when I was in my own NIN tribute band at 15 and trying to get my Ensoniq SQ-80 to sound like this. I should try to find those patches...
You can also hear the VS in "Came Back Haunted" from 2013.
Hey PHM Band. I always wondered how he got that huge metallic sweep sound on Reptile. Was that a sample or a synth?
Great question RAM_DOS! My theory is that it's a sample (not a synth) on the recording, since the two notes sound as if the lower is just a heavily pitched-down version of the upper -- but I'm still on the hunt for the _source_ of that original sample. In the meantime, I'm doing my best to synthesize the sound from scratch!
Thanks for watching!
@@Pretty_Hate_Machine It might be the Godzilla sound run through a ton of reverb.
ITS from the movie leviathan and from the Texas chainsaw massacre
@@mortiisweil6667 No, I was talking about a different sound.
Love the intro, reminds me of Blade Runner
Thanks! It's an original composition by Ian Staer (Pretty Hate Machine's keyboardist / sound designer), and it's available at ianstaer(dot)bandcamp(dot)com if you're interested in hearing more!
Ian also records as ST∆ER -- staer(dot)bandcamp(dot)com -- and his latest album "Equilibrium" was mixed by Chris Vrenna from Nine Inch Nails / Tweaker. Chris and Ian are currently working together on the next ST∆ER release!
Wonder if you can re-create the Happiness in Slavery patch with the Arturia Prophet VS software?
You absolutely can. I've done it myself!
@@Pretty_Hate_Machine How? Lol, I'd love to know, I tried a few times but eventually felt like I was only going to achieve it by getting super lucky 😏
Amazing! I wish if is posible get tabs
Where is that synth lead in Happiness in Slavery? I can’t hear it anywhere
Caleb: Thanks for watching and commenting!
In the version which appears on "broken", it starts at around 4 minutes into the tune. In the remix on "fixed", it's highlighted at about 3 minutes and 44 seconds in. In the PK Slavery Remix (found on the VIP 4-track 12-inch single of "Happiness In Slavery", now available through archive.org) it's at 3 minutes and 53 seconds. And in many live performances, it's turned up in the mix, here's a timestamped link -- czcams.com/video/sO8mI-7KHxY/video.html
Hi can you make a synth Video for a warm place?
Yeah them Prophet Vector Synthesizers sound cool but they are freakin' expensive!
Agreed -- and they're expensive to keep in working order. Still a bucket-list synth along with the PPG Wave 2.3, but it'll be a while before those join the arsenal! Thanks for watching, be sure to throw the vid a "Like" and check out the other videos on our Channel :-)
@@Pretty_Hate_Machine Yup -- I heard the Studiologic Sledge 2.0 has problems. I was gonna get one of those but alot of people are saying it's buggy.
Beefy
Like a chimichanga! Thanks for watching :-)
Correct for Slavery and Down In It, but not Burn. That’s obviously a lowpassed analog FM. Probably a Minimoog. The digital FM is way too harsh and static.
Yooo your intro music is primo. I feel like you could offer some important insight into the synths and bass line melodies when I analyze The Downward Spiral. If you're interested in collaborating, find me on Instagram or something, let's talk! @ixi.music
I'm absolutely game for a collaboration! I'm not on Insta but if you use the "contact" link on my Bandcamp page (link in the video at 2:44), I'd love to brainstorm the idea of a doing holistic analysis of some NIN tunes ^_^