Russell Westbrook is GREATER Than Chris Paul

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
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Komentáře • 594

  • @BamJonesTV
    @BamJonesTV Před rokem +79

    Marz: “Goes on a five minute detailed rant on how to guard Russ”
    Ron: HE’S DYNAMIC
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @TooIrrelevant
      @TooIrrelevant Před rokem +1

      Even that didn’t work ask Steph he had Klay guard him😂

    • @chrilpy
      @chrilpy Před rokem

      @@TooIrrelevant ​ Steph is shorter, slower, and weaker than Russ. Klay was GS’s best perimeter defender so of course he guarded Russ

    • @TooIrrelevant
      @TooIrrelevant Před rokem

      @@chrilpy Russ was OKCs best scorer they had after Kevin Durant , before he left OKC and Russ has a obvious weakness , his jump shooting. Russ is a true PG but defenses know what he’s capable of doing when locked in.

  • @rmp24
    @rmp24 Před rokem +67

    Haven’t heard Ron have a good take to this day😂

  • @greglock7427
    @greglock7427 Před rokem +35

    I’ll say this. I definitely think CP3 was better. But the Russ hate is definitely just at a point where people are just jumping on the hate train.

    • @SkodenMOC
      @SkodenMOC Před rokem +4

      CP3 is a top 5 point guard of all time
      Russ is a top 10 point guard of all time
      CP3 had a better career, Russ maybe had a better peak for one season. Both also have had their way of playing the game. Great basketball players

    • @NewwxNeww
      @NewwxNeww Před rokem

      Yeah thats fair too, russ is great

    • @_Daza
      @_Daza Před rokem +3

      I don’t necessarily think all of it is hate. All the arguments about Russ as a player are valid criticisms but I think when people go the distance and do the most with that is when it gets to hating. Especially when they say he was never a good basketball player etc. I just think Russ fans give so much pushback on those criticisms it then looks like hating

    • @joshido7352
      @joshido7352 Před rokem

      @@SkodenMOC idk about that Russ led the league in scoring in assists multiple times. it’s closer than you think

  • @ZaeKaneTV
    @ZaeKaneTV Před rokem +79

    Mars cooked the shit out of Ron 😂

    • @BruceNorrin
      @BruceNorrin Před rokem

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @cuzintray1138
    @cuzintray1138 Před rokem +36

    Decision making is the major difference between these two. I'm choosing cp3 based off that alone

    • @liambailey1239
      @liambailey1239 Před rokem +13

      And shooting and defense

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem +1

      Cp3 defense is kind of overrated. I remember in some playoff series when he was still in his prime. He got abused at times.

    • @liambailey1239
      @liambailey1239 Před rokem +7

      @@adriandantedanosos4146 I agree, it's still better than Russ though.

    • @bondsgoat25
      @bondsgoat25 Před rokem +5

      @@adriandantedanosos4146 cp’s on-ball defense is definitely overrated but the difference between him and some like russ or harden is that Paul dosent kill his team with bad off ball defense and Paul can at bare minimum hold his own even when switched on a much bigger player!

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem +3

      @@bondsgoat25 Russ off ball defense is hot garbage.

  • @kh4d4rn3wy0rk3
    @kh4d4rn3wy0rk3 Před rokem +10

    Marz was bullying Ron this one. He not only cooked him but exposed all delusional Westbrook fans ideology. He prepared a feast 😂 You can’t deny Westbrooks flaws hurts teams when it comes winning.

  • @pimpnamedslickback7780
    @pimpnamedslickback7780 Před rokem +134

    If okc had cp3 instead of Westbrook him and kd prob win a chip

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem +36

      Nonsense. Replace Russ with cp3 the outcome will be the same zero championships.

    • @trendexposure7799
      @trendexposure7799 Před rokem +20

      Check CP3’s track record

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem +22

      @@trendexposure7799 Cp3 is as if not more of a choker than russ

    • @bondsgoat25
      @bondsgoat25 Před rokem +7

      @@trendexposure7799 You mean playing great in almost every playoff series and closeout game of his career?
      Oh wait you going to bring the couple do bad series or moments and pretend that Chris Paul is a “Playoff choker”
      Why don’t I bring up MJs ‘93 knicks series or his 3-18 closeout game down 2-0 to show that he’s really not a great playoff performer 🤔
      You see how dumb that sounds

    • @bondsgoat25
      @bondsgoat25 Před rokem

      @@adriandantedanosos4146 your my friend are what Socrates would call…. A f*cking casual!

  • @willtheconqueror6148
    @willtheconqueror6148 Před rokem +6

    It smells like folks never watched 2008 CP3!

    • @Pradyumna3008
      @Pradyumna3008 Před 2 měsíci

      And many saw russ in mvp season so they think he is Better than paul

    • @TreasureHunter-cq2tt
      @TreasureHunter-cq2tt Před měsícem

      I’m taking 08 Cp3 over any version of Russ

  • @liambailey1239
    @liambailey1239 Před rokem +55

    Paul scores more efficiently, spaces the floor more, turns the ball over less, and is better on defense. Paul pretty clearly had a higher peak.

    • @sammyslam1
      @sammyslam1 Před rokem +10

      Higher peak than an MVP and Finals appearance at peak, plus leading the league in scoring twice?
      CP3 didn't reach those heights at peak, not saying he couldn't have, just that he didn't.
      It's my view that had OKC ownership/management been wiser and more willing to spend, the KD, Russ, and Harden trio would have eventually gotten back to the finals and won at least one title....
      I think the way things happened for them and with Bron's move from Cleveland to Miami, the players lost trust in ownership and started looking out for themselves.
      I think these three players would have been a great match up for The Warriors trio of Steph, Klay, and Dray.....
      At the time The Warriors had Barnes which sort of game them a quartet but The Thunder had Ibaka which sort of evened things out.....
      I think both Russ and CP3 are great players.
      PG more of a traditional pg like Stockton and Russ more of a dynamic playmaker/athlete like a Fat Lever or Stevie Francis...
      Usually it's best if your pg is the #3 or #4 offensive option.....no matter how great they are.
      There are exceptions to this rule.
      We don't need to bring one down to lift the other up.
      Same with Dame and Harden.
      These are great pg's!

    • @AJ-sl7be
      @AJ-sl7be Před rokem +11

      ​@@sammyslam1 2012 is not even close to Russ' peak

    • @yokun1885
      @yokun1885 Před rokem +3

      ​@sammyslam1 mvp was hardens not Russ. Harden deserved it more. In 2012, KD was their best player.

    • @arnellsmith
      @arnellsmith Před rokem +1

      @@yokun1885if he deserved it more he would’ve won

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas Před rokem

      @@sammyslam1 cp3 didn’t win the award because of the competition not because he want capable of winning it. He finished top 2 once and had an argument for winning it. He also had a much LONGER mvp peak than russ who had about 3-4 years at that level whereas Cp played at an mvp level for more than half of his career. And u say scoring twice as if that’s the ultimate deciding factor. Due u realize Cp had led the league in assist 5 times? That’s just as valuable if not MORE valuable than Russell two scoring titles. And he did that whike giving u 16-22 ppg on high efficiency and didn’t turn the ball over much. Russels peak gets u a 8th seed as the best player on a team. Cp gets u a top 5 seed unanimously.

  • @eazymb.
    @eazymb. Před rokem +140

    Russ fandom can take anyone that knows ball and decrease their knowledge by 30%

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem +13

      Why does everyone think CP3 is this great and completely discredit Russ. They’re both equally great even without championships

    • @eazymb.
      @eazymb. Před rokem +34

      @@adriandantedanosos4146 Why does everyone get in their feelings when defending a turnover prone, off ball-defense turnstile, who’s “100%” is only his way and not to help the team. So a guy who’s trash off ball on both ends. Instead of getting better at shooting from deep he jacks them up recklessly, he only has one speed and it’s worse now that he’s older. You went out of your way to shit on Chris Paul when I believe there’s an argument that can be made for Russ. But it’s a hell of a lot easier to make arguments against him. One guys biggest issue is availability, and the other guy doesn’t even make it that far to be available. I do like that he rebounds though. Russ and his fans have a weird victim complex.

    • @bondsgoat25
      @bondsgoat25 Před rokem +1

      @@eazymb. Couldn’t have said it better myself 👏 👏 👏

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem +1

      @@eazymb. There you go, that should make both cp3 and Russ stans happy

    • @eazymb.
      @eazymb. Před rokem +2

      @@bondsgoat25 I wanna see them defend other players with his traits and splits. Especially the last few years. Clear bias.

  • @pxwrld2670
    @pxwrld2670 Před rokem +9

    Now I see why Ron be the host😭😭bro be having worse takes than ticket n he just as stubborn

  • @TheIcemanthomas
    @TheIcemanthomas Před rokem +13

    Here he goes again. His cp3 hate tour is just phenomenal

  • @KingJah-qv3jt
    @KingJah-qv3jt Před rokem +38

    I’m taking CP3 as my PG all day

    • @37hiddensecrets
      @37hiddensecrets Před rokem

      Until he meets Luka and gets blown the fuck out

    • @imhimdk1785
      @imhimdk1785 Před rokem

      Not me russ head to head with cp3 beat him

  • @SkodenMOC
    @SkodenMOC Před rokem +7

    Chris Paul is simply a better basketball player than Russell Westbrook.
    More All-NBA’s, a better defender with more defensive accolades, more efficient as a scorer, shooter and playmaker/passer.

    • @bevelinternational7527
      @bevelinternational7527 Před rokem +1

      Doesn't have a mvp

    • @SkodenMOC
      @SkodenMOC Před rokem +1

      @@bevelinternational7527 Derrick rose has an MVP does that make him better than Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, Chris Paul or Isiah Thomas? Does that also make Russ better than Isiah Thomas???

    • @jonathanharvey7940
      @jonathanharvey7940 Před rokem

      @@SkodenMOC prime s ri-se better then all of em

    • @bevelinternational7527
      @bevelinternational7527 Před rokem +1

      @moc winning the mvp of the league automatically gives you a seat at a table only a few man can say they sat at. In Derek roses short injury riddled career he won am mvp and got to conf final...
      His apex, peak, was superior to all those you just mentioned. But your taking a man who was done by the time he only was a handful of years in the league. Combine his success, but extrapolate it over a 14 year career, finals appearance, multiple conf finals appearance, carrying a team, records ( and yes I'm not gonna just disregard a man accomplishing the most of anything), and avg a triple double for 4 straight seasons, and then doing it again on a franchise that wad decimated but you carried to playoffs.
      It's not like I'm comparing russ to a champion, 2 time nba champion in Isaiah thomas...or a 4 time champion , 2 time mvp in curry...
      I'm comparing him to a 6 foot , oft injured guard, who has never won the ultimate prize, championship, but failed to ever be recognized as essentially the best player for at least one year in the league, mvp.
      One may argue if cp3 is on that thunder team with kd they are better...id argue if russ played with DeAndre Jordan and Blake in his prime he wouldn't be hurt and they wouldn't be gettin walked down every series...he'd at least be out there

    • @SkodenMOC
      @SkodenMOC Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@bevelinternational7527winning a mvp only makes you a top 5 player of that particular season… also champion or not, CP3 game itself alone is better in scoring efficiency, playmaking and defense, which is all three phases of the game of basketball

  • @brotherblack8961
    @brotherblack8961 Před rokem +15

    Russ can’t shoot n Russ doesn’t space the floor. It’s not hard to beat a Russ led team. In his prime he was losing in the first round every year in okc!

    • @Jaypbz
      @Jaypbz Před rokem +5

      I understand he was losing in the first round every year but look at the squad he brung to the playoffs after kd left and before Carmelo and pg came to the team😂they was buns

    • @Jaypbz
      @Jaypbz Před rokem +3

      The second option was Steven adams

    • @cam3111
      @cam3111 Před rokem +2

      @@Jaypbz bro everyone makes the first round. Stop tryna make a pity party for that bum. I’ve seen stars in history take worse teams farther than Russ team. Russ just don’t have it in him to lift a team 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @m.j.w.2876
      @m.j.w.2876 Před rokem

      @@cam3111 and cp3 doesn't have it in him to stay healthy, been pudgy damn near all his career, take better care of himself and he doesn't choke as much

  • @zay7439
    @zay7439 Před rokem +10

    ron is a different type of casual man

  • @deven7345
    @deven7345 Před rokem +3

    Lmao why are they acting like Chris Paul was somebody to “stop”.😂😂😂 I’m dead

    • @Doujxn
      @Doujxn Před 5 měsíci

      Cause he’s a top 3 pg ever

  • @yabarber9285
    @yabarber9285 Před rokem +10

    Russ used to beat CP all the time in the playoffs…it’s honestly not even a debate…

    • @mauricejohnson1068
      @mauricejohnson1068 Před rokem +7

      lol they only played each other twice . Once in Okc and once in Houston

  • @Mporter94
    @Mporter94 Před rokem +4

    When they were play head up in the primes, Russ in OKC & CP3 in LA. Russ cooked home every time. Really destroying him

    • @tayluc777
      @tayluc777 Před rokem

      That doesn’t prove anything. Russ is the most athletic PG ever, that doesn’t change the fact he’s an idiot as a floor general bro.

  • @TheSkyrimps3
    @TheSkyrimps3 Před rokem +5

    Cp3 can shoot better and commits less turnovers

  • @j_the_don5160
    @j_the_don5160 Před rokem +4

    Ron is a casual and it’s a travesty that it goes unnoticed.

  • @TheBoiRusty
    @TheBoiRusty Před rokem +3

    Chris Paul is #32 all time turnovers at 38 years old. Russell Westbrook is #3 all time turnovers at the age of 34. Chris Paul is 169th in usage and WB is 2nd. CP3 is def the better PG.

  • @Aka_GodSpeed
    @Aka_GodSpeed Před měsícem +1

    The clippers letting cp3 be the main scorer in 2021 is what got him to the finals gave the clippers 40 in La

  • @sportspanelpodcast7488
    @sportspanelpodcast7488 Před rokem +9

    Chris Paul can shoot off the dribble mid-range or three-point range he has so much more to bring to the table offensively and defensively than Russ it's ridiculous

  • @asundelgun3487
    @asundelgun3487 Před rokem +4

    Bro I don't need my PG to get double digit rebounds

    • @dhruvudayshankar7531
      @dhruvudayshankar7531 Před rokem +3

      You do realise that him getting the rebound and pushing in transition was an effective form of offense right?

    • @airhco15
      @airhco15 Před rokem

      And you wouldn’t say that if you looking at jkidd or magic

  • @jmoney4220
    @jmoney4220 Před rokem +1

    “Same level of playmaking” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @sportspanelpodcast7488
    @sportspanelpodcast7488 Před rokem +2

    When he said I got to leave in a second he was already BBQed he needed to leave right that second😂🤣😆🥴👨🏿‍🍳

  • @2cents250
    @2cents250 Před rokem +5

    CP3 is 38 and starting for PHX. Russ is 34 and his last 2 teams have made it very clear that he is more impactful on the bench. Lakers and now the Clippers had to minimize his role for the success of the team.

    • @phillipsmith2201
      @phillipsmith2201 Před rokem +2

      Chris Paul is 38 and has blown 5 2-0 leads (most in history). Russ is 34 and blown 1 against the team with the greatest regular season record in NBA history.

    • @2cents250
      @2cents250 Před rokem +1

      @@phillipsmith2201 And they are still putting Russ on the bench bc he doesn’t yield to more wins than CP3 even with those blown leads. Isn’t that ironic. He actually hurts his teams bc he has led the league in TURNOVERS and continues to commit several turnovers per game for his career.
      Russel Westbrook is #3 on the all time turnover list. Impressive 😂😂😂

    • @phillipsmith2201
      @phillipsmith2201 Před rokem +1

      @@2cents250 Go look at the all time turnover list and point out any player in the top 20 that isn’t an all time great 😂

    • @dhruvudayshankar7531
      @dhruvudayshankar7531 Před rokem +1

      ​@@2cents250 Russ has declined significantly over the last 2 years. Before that, he was by far more conducive to winning than CP3. At least (with the exception of the 73 win warriors where he was the second option) you could count on Russ to close the deal in an advantageous situation. The same will never be said for CP3

    • @2cents250
      @2cents250 Před rokem

      @@dhruvudayshankar7531 that is simply not true. cp3 yields more wins statistically than Westbrook and enhance his teams win percentile. Westbrook doesn’t.

  • @lilkilla7766
    @lilkilla7766 Před rokem +2

    Westbrook outplayed Cp3 head to head in 2014 WCSF in the playoffs and came back while Cp3 had a lead. Westbrook has had more playoff success in his career. Has 2 scoring titles and 2 assist titles + an MVP. Westbrook has a leg up on Cp3 in every argument traditionally used to compare players yet somehow people place Chris Paul ahead of him. People say Westbrook playoff success is a testament to Kevin Durant yet don't give Cp3 flack for never making it past the 2nd round as the best player on his team. The double standards that surround CP career are frustrating

  • @swam2922
    @swam2922 Před rokem +3

    He said it’s harder for defenses to stop Russ ? Wth do I be hearing in these chats

  • @danielsims916
    @danielsims916 Před rokem +3

    The part that no one is saying is CP3 is a traditional point guard, Russ isn’t so of course Russ is going to average more points and rebounds than Paul .

  • @dontaviousdouglas2309
    @dontaviousdouglas2309 Před rokem +8

    On My All Time PGs List I Have Them At 5 & 6. Basically Interchangeable. From Day To Day I Flip Flop My Mind On Who’s Better.

    • @AKWuzHere
      @AKWuzHere Před rokem +1

      They not that close cp3 was picking apart 2018 gsw with KD closing games while harden was choking

    • @CptJumper
      @CptJumper Před rokem +1

      Give us the full lisy

    • @dontaviousdouglas2309
      @dontaviousdouglas2309 Před rokem +1

      @@CptJumper
      1. Magic
      2. Curry
      3. Isiah
      4. Oscar
      5. CP3
      5A. Russ
      7. Nash
      8. Kidd
      9. Stockton
      10. Frazier

  • @TooIrrelevant
    @TooIrrelevant Před rokem +2

    When they said Russ was a ball hogger he went and led the league in assists,when they said he couldn’t shoot he led the league in scoring. Cp3 is no where near Russ. Cp3 is not even better than Kyrie

  • @bevelinternational7527
    @bevelinternational7527 Před rokem +3

    Everything I ever seen russ and cp3 in playoffs, russ has Dogg walked this man

  • @mattmilli261
    @mattmilli261 Před rokem +2

    CP3 better leader, shooter, less turnovers, higher basketball IQ and defensive communicator, CP3 always make team better win percentage. Russ never took his team Finals as the number one option.

    • @madmatical8672
      @madmatical8672 Před rokem

      What WCF has cp3 took as the number 1 option

    • @mattmilli261
      @mattmilli261 Před rokem +1

      @@madmatical8672 the suns never made playoffs (this era) before CP3 and got NBA finals his first season we deserved credit.

    • @2cents250
      @2cents250 Před rokem +1

      @@madmatical8672 what western conference has Westbrook took as the #1 option. Just bc he took more shots than KD doesn’t mean he was the better player. KD was a 4 time scoring champ with OKC.

  • @Stopphating
    @Stopphating Před rokem +3

    If you got Dame over Russ cus he knocked him out playoffs and outplayed him keep the same energy on Russ and cp3. Russ outplayed him 2014 matchup and knocked him out

    • @2cents250
      @2cents250 Před rokem

      Russ had another MVP candidate/DPOY candidate -Paul George on his team when he was embarrassed by Dame. He dropped 50 in a close out game. CP3 lost to OKC bc KD was clearly the best player. And even then Statistically CP3 was a better shooter and more efficient and a better playmaker compared to Russ in the series against the Blazers his stats are terrible 32% from 3 and 36% from FG and averaged almost 5 turnovers a game in a 5 game series.

    • @m.j.w.2876
      @m.j.w.2876 Před rokem

      @@2cents250 embarrassed how? that 50 pt gm by dame Russ had 29/14/11, dame was just cooking he does sometimes. And the reason Blazer smoked okc was CJ, he killed that series

  • @thesocratescamden
    @thesocratescamden Před rokem +2

    Russ is literally 2-0 vs. CP3 in the playoffs head to head...one of those he did it with a torn Hammy.

  • @bryanwilliams1146
    @bryanwilliams1146 Před rokem +2

    I’ve never seen no one get cooked like this😂😂😂😂

  • @chasestacks7792
    @chasestacks7792 Před rokem +13

    IN THE PLAYOFFS RUSS PLAYED THE CLIPPERS. OKC BOUNCED THE CLIPPERS AND RUSS GAVE CP3 a 40 PIECE

    • @minfamous5841
      @minfamous5841 Před rokem +8

      OKC had KD end of story. Yes Russ did have the 40 piece it was not

    • @anthonycelestin3559
      @anthonycelestin3559 Před rokem +1

      M Infamous Other than GS where KD went to a super duper duper team, what has KD done without Russ?
      You got to give credit to Russ playing with KD cause you can go both ways with that

    • @SkodenMOC
      @SkodenMOC Před rokem +2

      KD played the Clippers with Russ. That was KD’s team

    • @2cents250
      @2cents250 Před rokem

      @@anthonycelestin3559 KD has looked a lot better. He has been injured and dealt with a lot in terms of team drama but he has been a MVP candidate when healthy the last 2 years while Russel has been riding the bench. No one really looks at KD’s performance as bad the way they look at Westbrook and this is even after he got swept last year. He made the playoffs. Russ was on the lakers and couldn’t even help Lebron who was almost a scoring champion… make the playin.

    • @m.j.w.2876
      @m.j.w.2876 Před rokem

      @@2cents250 LeBron was the scoring champion partly because of Russ. Every superstar Russ has played with has had either their best or nearly their best season scoring from kd to harden to beal and LeBron, it's no coincidence

  • @julesfenn6961
    @julesfenn6961 Před rokem +2

    So nobody remembers that game 4 in the 09 playoffs when Chris Paul led hornets lost at home to Denver 121-63 lmfao to go down 3-1 I mean all they did was get physical with him and plenty more I can bring up

  • @0vern9K
    @0vern9K Před rokem +12

    “ I think it’s hard to stop a team led by Russ” A rookie Donovan Mitchell would have something to say that.
    Dame ( as overrated as he is ) might also have something to say about that

    • @von1626
      @von1626 Před rokem +5

      Why is dame overrated???
      Nobody overrates him at all he’s just that good.

    • @EldePHX
      @EldePHX Před rokem +6

      How is Dame overrated? I’m sure you would be all on his nuts if he played for your team.

    • @0vern9K
      @0vern9K Před rokem

      @@EldePHX He has little to no real playoff translation for all the shit he does in the regular season. ( outside of the 1st round and some 2nd rounds but no even close to most)All his fanboys love riding that high ( which isn’t even a high ) that being him making the wcf.
      News flash but that was 4 years ago nearly half a decade… Dame has done nothing comparable to that “ run “. Even worst they went out in historically embarrassing fashion. Dame played terrible, they blew a Lead in damn near every game, and they got swept. To the warriors with no KD, and considering they gave up a lot of their bench just to get kd they essentially played a worst 2016 warriors team since kd ain’t even play… and got they ass smoked

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 Před rokem +5

      @@EldePHX He was named a top 75 player all time, that alone overrated him

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 Před rokem

      @@von1626 He was named a top 75 player all time, that alone overrated him

  • @ilyxavier4491
    @ilyxavier4491 Před rokem +3

    didn’t leading the league in steals 6 times and being 3rd all time in steals made you an “overrated defender”

    • @brandonhagin
      @brandonhagin Před rokem +2

      They say Stockton was overrated but not cp3 lol

    • @airhco15
      @airhco15 Před rokem

      But think of this you got Russ drose curry ( to an extent) dame and that’s just in the west you think CP is just drastically slowing those guys down ??

  • @TheLivewire18
    @TheLivewire18 Před rokem +1

    That debate was a massacre. You can tell one person knows what he’s talking about, the other guy is just arguing backwards from his conclusion.

  • @junebugw
    @junebugw Před rokem +1

    How to schematically lock down Chris Paul
    1. Keep him away from midrange, Chris Paul is a master at calling for the screen and getting to mid range or closer and shooting a fadeaway or passing it for alley oops in his clipper days . Fight the screen,go over, stop the midrange shot you make him pass it out to his center or take a tough fadeaway. You stop that it's 80 percent of Chris Pauls game.
    2. Throw different defensive schemes at Chris Paul. If he penetrates double him and make him pass out. Keep as much offball pressure on him as possible give him no way to grab the ball. When he passes the half court line put pressure on him immediately he's flustered like that I see Alvarado do him like that all the time. We all know that 9/10 whatever team Chris Paul is on hes the lead playmaker/floor general, you get the ball out of his hands the offense will be forced to play different.
    3. These things have never been implemented because has never been the number 1 scoring option on a team (like Russ) so really no one doubles or focuses this much on him. Marz failed to point that out

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 Před rokem

      What team has Westbrook been the best offensive player on that won a playoff series?
      Paul was the leading scorer for Charlotte who got to a WCSF

    • @junebugw
      @junebugw Před rokem

      @@hardwoodthought1213😂 not even gibba argue this cause you're talking about 10 plus years ago where he did something 1 time. Plus the argument here isn't who's the best offensive player it's how do you stop Chris Paul schematically.

  • @zaedagod
    @zaedagod Před rokem +3

    Cp3 has way less turnovers in way more games. Russ is a more modern pg than cp3 but does that make him better 🤔 russ is still one of my favorite player of all time though.

    • @EldePHX
      @EldePHX Před rokem

      Favorite player OF ALL TIME? you’re crazy

    • @zaedagod
      @zaedagod Před rokem

      @@EldePHX favorite and best are 2 different criterias. For instance AI is my favorite player but jordan is the best.

  • @chasestacks7792
    @chasestacks7792 Před rokem +3

    WHY THEY ACTING LIKE CP3 DOESNT HAVE MULTIPLT CHOKING BAD GAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS

    • @howitzdone8992
      @howitzdone8992 Před rokem

      Can u name them

    • @dhruvudayshankar7531
      @dhruvudayshankar7531 Před rokem

      ​@@howitzdone8992 games 3-7 vs suns in 2022, game 4 vs bucks 2021, games 2 and 5 vs Houston in 2020 (one of which Russ didn't play in and the other was his first game back where he was still hobbled), games 1 and 5 (and if I remember correctly he was piss poor in game 2 but I could be mistaken, he also sucked in game 4 but they won that game) vs GSW in 2019, game 7 vs Jazz in 2017, game 5 vs OKC in 2014 and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's heaps more I can find

    • @julesfenn6961
      @julesfenn6961 Před rokem +1

      2009 at home down 2-1 in the playoffs they lost to Denver 121-63 probably the worst playoff game I ever watched in my life

    • @dhruvudayshankar7531
      @dhruvudayshankar7531 Před rokem +1

      @@julesfenn6961 how could I forget. 4 point 6 turnover on 2/7 shooting from CP3 if I'm not mistaken. Another disaster class that people love to gloss over

  • @Driven4K
    @Driven4K Před rokem +3

    Bro can yall stop letting Ron on the show to say shit like this. i know yall need the views but holy hell this is just bad lol

  • @sportspanelpodcast7488
    @sportspanelpodcast7488 Před rokem +1

    The game plan that limits him is you get a bigger defender that can hustle and stay with him and fight under those screens to contest a good amount. Also being able to rotate well because he will find the open man so you have to rotate well to contest those guys also. SIMPLE

  • @esekay3648
    @esekay3648 Před rokem +4

    Russ play the same exact way as LeBron, only differences were height and speed

  • @gpearce11
    @gpearce11 Před rokem +1

    "Russ is more dynamic (read: exciting), so I prefer to watch him play over CP3."
    -Ron's entire argument.

  • @jonathanharvey7940
    @jonathanharvey7940 Před rokem +1

    Russ in his prime clears you can say Chris Paul had the better career though

  • @m.j.w.2876
    @m.j.w.2876 Před rokem +1

    this is the who's better offensively Durant or Bron argument again smh

  • @hiphophead4891
    @hiphophead4891 Před měsícem

    Valid argument for Russ to be better BUT. Cp3 on the New Orleans Hornets was probably the closest thing to a perfect point guard next to John Stockton

    • @Dusty3967
      @Dusty3967 Před měsícem

      Cp3 was just simply better than Stockton & Westbrook🤷🏾‍♂️ Stockton vs Westbrook is more of a conversation

  • @leosburner627
    @leosburner627 Před rokem

    Defends well enough? Ron the type of person to argue water isn’t wet. Fucking making Ticket sounding like a credible analyst

  • @youngcactusjack
    @youngcactusjack Před rokem +1

    Ron just can’t admit Marzz Cooked tf outta him in this debate and all he had to do was state actual facts and notions and stats something Ron couldn’t do , Marz gave detailed explanations/rebuttals meanwhile Ron’s argument are all just emotional bs and making me feel dumber and lose brain cells the more I hear him talk ball🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @phillipsmith2201
    @phillipsmith2201 Před rokem +3

    The only reason y’all put Chris Paul ahead of Russ is bc he’s a better role player. Admittedly, Russ needs a specific type of roster to bring the best out of him, but ultimately his skill set has bigger positive impacts on teams than Chris Paul’s.

    • @BlkStar99
      @BlkStar99 Před rokem +1

      Based on what?

    • @phillipsmith2201
      @phillipsmith2201 Před rokem +1

      @@BlkStar99 Because people don’t put the same expectations on CP3 than they do on Russell Westbrook.

    • @BlkStar99
      @BlkStar99 Před rokem +1

      @@phillipsmith2201 What expectations do they put on Russ that they don't put on CP3?

    • @phillipsmith2201
      @phillipsmith2201 Před rokem

      @@BlkStar99 Championships. Notice how people don’t pull out the “0 rings” argument with CP3 as quick as they do with Russ

    • @BlkStar99
      @BlkStar99 Před rokem +1

      @@phillipsmith2201 CP3 has also never played with the same level of talent as Russ has which changes the expectations. People call Chris Paul a choker already without him playing next to superstars.

  • @farhansarkar2394
    @farhansarkar2394 Před rokem +3

    To me Russ' biggest issue is he has to be the number one and he isn't good enough to be the number one.

  • @blacknetsmed
    @blacknetsmed Před rokem +4

    Westbrook is a better volume scorer and volume playmaker, Rebounder, but he isn't more effective/proficient at anything compared to Chris Paul.

  • @tayluc777
    @tayluc777 Před rokem +1

    You have to chill Ron, I do think it’s closer than some people make it out to be. The difference is IQ though, Russ plays with reckless abandon too much that it’s not what you would want from your floor general. He only knows one speed.

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin081988 Před rokem +6

    The big difference is the decision making of the two players but WB is a better player but with CP3 you can help a contender with him

    • @sparte6856
      @sparte6856 Před rokem +4

      How is Westbrook better if Cp3 is the player who can help ur team win more? Aint we playing to win?

    • @TeamKP1
      @TeamKP1 Před rokem +1

      Sound dumb as hell he isn’t a better player then

  • @keyceandreas9254
    @keyceandreas9254 Před rokem +1

    If I have a championship roster, I want CP3. If I have a pack of bums, I’m throwing the team on Russ’s back.

  • @allahlifegallishaw9659
    @allahlifegallishaw9659 Před rokem +1

    Yall forgot that cp3 is a three time champion 3 time mvp All time assist leader lml Cp3 is great but he not greater then Westbrook. To me they are on the same level

  • @Lexio3031
    @Lexio3031 Před rokem +4

    These Russ fans are crazy

  • @RafPos13
    @RafPos13 Před rokem +1

    the rockets with cp3 won 65 and were 1 game of beating 18 warriors, russ rockets won 44 and nearly got swept by bron and ad./...

  • @jamescalloway4935
    @jamescalloway4935 Před rokem +1

    Russ can do all of this in the regular season but once postseason comes all of his gets shut down and he under performs constantly shooting 40% and under. No hate it’s just facts.

  • @sportspanelpodcast7488
    @sportspanelpodcast7488 Před rokem +1

    Let's not forget CP3 actually knocks down 80% or more of his free throws also

  • @tiagofernandes8389
    @tiagofernandes8389 Před rokem +1

    Two great players but I wouldn't sign either of them even if they were 25 years old.

  • @Lexio3031
    @Lexio3031 Před rokem +1

    One point guard has playoff success when he’s traded, the other doesn’t. CP>Russ

  • @MarzTalksSports
    @MarzTalksSports Před rokem +5

    Ron is never right,too easy to cook

    • @marlowstanfield6815
      @marlowstanfield6815 Před rokem

      Do you think Chris Paul has a better resume than Russ? Brody averaged a triple double while leading the league in scoring, never been done before never will be done again. That alone is more impressive than Chris Paul's whole resume. I didn't even mention the mvp scoring titles etc lol. Chris Paul's resume isn't on Westbrooks level at all..

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports Před rokem

      @@marlowstanfield6815 who spoke ab resumè?

    • @marlowstanfield6815
      @marlowstanfield6815 Před rokem

      @@MarzTalksSports When judging who is the greater player are you just going strictly based on the eye test? Because resume vs resume its Russ over CP3 and its really not that close..

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports Před rokem

      @@marlowstanfield6815 i talk ab how good u are at basketball

    • @marlowstanfield6815
      @marlowstanfield6815 Před rokem

      @@MarzTalksSports okay so your takes are strictly based on your opinion?

  • @alecxjones4419
    @alecxjones4419 Před rokem

    Don’t look up the definition of goal post moving. Just watch this video

  • @jamalblount
    @jamalblount Před rokem +4

    Cp3 better

  • @williamvaughn4418
    @williamvaughn4418 Před rokem +1

    Bro you put a bigger guard on cp3 he is down .. Russ , smart , luka kills cp3

  • @carolinakidd4677
    @carolinakidd4677 Před rokem +1

    That caption is crazy

  • @deven7345
    @deven7345 Před rokem +2

    Russ used to dog walk cp3.

  • @eframgebermaskil343
    @eframgebermaskil343 Před rokem +1

    bro said a bunch of bullshit and he knows it lol

  • @bobd2078
    @bobd2078 Před rokem +7

    Literally any team trying to win a championship would rather have prime cp3 over prime Westbrook. Not even worth debating

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem +2

      Argumentative. CP3 couldn’t get to a single WCF until he was 33 years old. Russ was the second best player on those OKC teams with KD that reached multiple WCF and one NBA finals.

    • @bondsgoat25
      @bondsgoat25 Před rokem +1

      @@adriandantedanosos4146 how is this a point your making.
      “ a pass first point guard couldn’t make the WCF as the *number one option* on his team “
      “ but another point guard as the second option to arguably the GOAT scorer who won 4 scoring titles… plus a sixth man who was a better player then said point guard made multiple WCF appearances and a finals appearance.”
      Ya no sh*t, this is apples to oranges to the enth degree!

    • @bobd2078
      @bobd2078 Před rokem

      @@adriandantedanosos4146 most of cp3 playoff failures were due to injuries. Not because he can’t ball.
      Meanwhile Westbrook playoff resume without KD is 4 first round exits and one second round exit.
      He also got outplayed and bounced out the first round by a ROOKIE Donavan Mitchell in which Magic Johnson called it the worse display of a point guard he’s ever seen

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem

      @@bobd2078 Bro Cp3 had a loaded clippers teams for 6 years. ZERO WCF to show for it. Look at their playoff resumes. Russ has 4 first round exits as the number 1 option. Cp3 has 6 first round exits as the number 1 option

    • @adriandantedanosos4146
      @adriandantedanosos4146 Před rokem

      @@bobd2078 like I said it is 100% debatable.

  • @sportspanelpodcast7488
    @sportspanelpodcast7488 Před rokem +1

    The game plan work too for 15 years no titles and he ain't been back to the finals since 2012 and he ain't been a top 10 player in the league in awhile too

    • @bevelinternational7527
      @bevelinternational7527 Před rokem

      So what about cp3...?
      Never won a finals...never got an mvp.
      And let's just stop like cp3 hasn't choked.and getting hurt every series is on your jacket

  • @aoo779
    @aoo779 Před rokem

    This is a dum argument because if I was to ask who's his top 10 point guards, I'm 98% sure he would CP3 ahead of Russ.

  • @cloudunderweather9554

    Lets pretend CPS and westbrook both get 10 assists in a game. The difference is that westbrook will get his and turn the ball over 5 or 6 times, CP3 will turn it over 2 or 3. If westbrook scores 30 points it will be on like 35-40% shooting. If CP3 gets 20, it will be at around 50%. Westbrook will play hard defense only after getting burned. CP3 will just do it.
    Aside from rebounding, theres always a weird asterisk around each thing russ does well. I can't say that about CP. But he plays hard so I tend to ignore it. You don't see people put it all out there like russ and i appreciate him for it.

  • @Hunchopronto
    @Hunchopronto Před rokem

    Where was the OG’s? Straight feelings up here instead of details

  • @EldePHX
    @EldePHX Před rokem +9

    Russ is a better player than Chris Paul? Lmao this has to be a joke.

    • @jmoney4220
      @jmoney4220 Před rokem

      Believe it or not there’s a good amount of people that believe that. It’s pure insanity

  • @sportspanelpodcast7488
    @sportspanelpodcast7488 Před rokem +1

    Let's not forget CP3 is a great finisher also

  • @Anthony_421
    @Anthony_421 Před rokem +4

    Marz been on one lately also

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports Před rokem +9

      lately??? lol i do this,i been doing this,ill stay doing this

    • @jakeharrison207
      @jakeharrison207 Před rokem

      @@MarzTalksSports you should get a recognizable profile pic so people know who you are instantly. Especially cause your name is MarzTalksSports something shorter like just ‘Marz’ would be noticeable faster

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports Před rokem

      @@jakeharrison207 Yeah maybe

  • @thsu8
    @thsu8 Před rokem +1

    Russ is obviously better. Watch the Rico Hines runs at UCLA in Summer 2018 with Westbrook, CP, Harden, Paul George, Siakam, Austin Rivers, Seth Curry etc. Chris Paul looks like a JV player compared to Russ' talent. CP is a better floor general, but even in that department Russ is one of the most underrated passers ever.

    • @bobd2078
      @bobd2078 Před rokem +2

      You’re smoked out. Russ is more dynamic. Cp3 is better

    • @EldePHX
      @EldePHX Před rokem

      Cap Russ is garbage

  • @xkid.darkskin5178
    @xkid.darkskin5178 Před rokem +2

    i’m taking CP3 over westbrick anyday

  • @travissimmons174
    @travissimmons174 Před rokem

    CP3 with Harden was "better" because when it was Harden and Westbrook, the idiot front office traded Clint Capela and had no big man for AD

  • @sportspanelpodcast7488

    Dynamic do not lead to more wins more efficiency a better shooter a better playmaker more dynamic does not equal that stuff

  • @t1h_tvj212
    @t1h_tvj212 Před rokem +1

    6:45 dude is just describing a basketball game

  • @AquariusLeviathanProphecy

    Cp3 is a Better Shooter

    • @marlowstanfield6815
      @marlowstanfield6815 Před rokem

      How many scoring titles does Chris Paul have?

    • @jonnstewart2023
      @jonnstewart2023 Před rokem +3

      ​@@marlowstanfield6815 how many steals titles and assists titles does russ have

    • @marlowstanfield6815
      @marlowstanfield6815 Před rokem

      @@jonnstewart2023 Russ has 3 assist titles. But this post says Cp3 is the better scorer, why are you talking about assist and steals? BTW steals titles don't mean much, Magic Steph and Iverson have a bunch of steals titles and they were still terrible defensively so I don't know why you mentioned steals titles. If you are trying to point out that Chris Paul is a better defender you should be talking about Chris Paul's all NBA defensive team selections not steals titles..

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports Před rokem +3

      @@marlowstanfield6815 the comment actually said better shooter u might wanna read

    • @marlowstanfield6815
      @marlowstanfield6815 Před rokem

      @@MarzTalksSports You're right, but assist and steals don't reference shooting like scoring does. But quick question bro, on the players choice do you guys use zoom for these podcast? If not what app do you guys use for this podcast? Just curious???

  • @russellgeorge433
    @russellgeorge433 Před rokem

    Chris Paul has no left hand. That's how you stop him . Or put a big guard on him . Ask Dante Jones. Casuals .

  • @life0flai
    @life0flai Před rokem +1

    I swear ron used to know shit and jus lost all his knowledge one day😂

  • @emiliotomas5982
    @emiliotomas5982 Před rokem +2

    Prime Westbrook gets you to a Conference finals and an MVP
    Cp3 never got close to an mvp

    • @touregarrett
      @touregarrett Před rokem +6

      Your post shows you have no idea what you are talking about. CP3 was 2nd to Kobe in 08 MVP race. And when has Russ ever led a team to a Conference Finals? CP3 has been to the Finals as the guy and almost beat the loaded Warriors with Harden.

    • @2cents250
      @2cents250 Před rokem

      KD had a lot to do with them making the finals😂

  • @b.e.r.nnetwork8251
    @b.e.r.nnetwork8251 Před rokem

    CP3 gets respect but he also is just there. It's rare someone says "ok I'll take CP3" in an argument. If he doesn't win the title this season or next season then his all time ranking takes a hit.

    • @NewwxNeww
      @NewwxNeww Před rokem

      Are you saying with all that he’s already done he would go down in alltime rankings if he doesn’t win rather than just stay where he is?

  • @williamvaughn4418
    @williamvaughn4418 Před rokem

    Let’s talk about how Chris paul chokes alot.. Russ has bullied Chris paul in the playoffs before .. if they play right now russ would out play Chris paul.. but the rest of the team might not put play the others

  • @patriots234
    @patriots234 Před rokem

    Goddamn Ron got cooked LMMFAOOOOOO

  • @BigWillieDillie
    @BigWillieDillie Před rokem +1

    Russ over Paul was such a thing after that MVP....just shows CP3 could have won MVP

    • @NewwxNeww
      @NewwxNeww Před rokem

      Forsure, I mean he has been runner up before if im correct

    • @BigWillieDillie
      @BigWillieDillie Před rokem

      @NewwNeww yea, but ppl feel he not as good as the latest point guards due to Russ and Steph. He might no longer be better than them but his prime was the best in my opinion

  • @marcczer
    @marcczer Před rokem +1

    Damn Mars 🔥'd Ron ass!👀😬🤭

  • @tyreegomez6060
    @tyreegomez6060 Před rokem

    Ron need to stick to hosting

  • @KinGAdil019
    @KinGAdil019 Před rokem

    Marz been turning up on niggas more. Love to see it

  • @dafloat
    @dafloat Před rokem

    bro don’t know how to argue 🤦🏽‍♂️