Neevesy finds out If the Yamaha Tracer 9 is as good as you think | MCN Reviews
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Neevesy collects the Yamaha Tracer 9 GT from Tamworth Yamaha and rides into Wales on a variety of roads, from countryside twisties, to mountains and a dash of the every day.
We answer the important question on whether the Yamaha Tracer 9 is as good as you think it is.
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Thank you for the transparent review and not sugar coating the new model and making it seem like a redesign that fixed all the problems. That happens a lot on other's reviews.
Watching Neevsys videos has saved my sanity here in lockdown in Melbourne, Australia. The absolute best, hope he gets paid well!. Woudnt buy a new bike without listening to his opinion which i reckon is the ultimate compliment.
That's very kind Andrew, thank you
Im in the current melb lockdown too. Love me some neevsys, lockdown or no lockdown.... Stay sane Pricy.
I totally agree with Andrews response same issues here with 10 day lockdown in Thailand such a genuine report I know now what I am looking at thanks again
Ditto
Well done Neevesy for saying it for how it is!
I agree, MCN have really got there act together with these bike reviews, and they had to because the competion out there is fierce. Neevsey adds a real world element to every review which is refreshing.
Can’t get past the split screen. Great review!
Terrific review -- very much appreciate the honest comments on noise and comfort! Thank you
I’m so glad you mention the screen - it’s an oft-overlooked aspect of a bike but, as you have stated, can make or break your riding experience.
Great honest review, thank you.
What an awesome review...honest and to the point.. I always enjoy your opinion.. I had the old tracer gt and the wind noise was a major downer for me. The front end had no feedback when cornering. Thankyou.. ill stick with my FJR
California Scientific windscreens made a huge difference on mine. The plastic is much thicker so in doesn't wobble as much. It makes the wind noise much less. And get the ECU flashed by Ivan's Performance.
Jarrod, question for you…I test rode the 2022 Tracer 9 GT…I felt it skiddish when pushing it in the corners…do you feel that? A bit unsettling when hammering it out of the corners.
@@ApriliaRacer14 No, my bike is very planted. I would think you might need a suspension adjustment. The 2022 has electronic adaptive suspension. Mine is manual adjustment. Tires make a huge difference. The stock tires sucked. I've run several different tires, but absolutely love the Bridgestone S22 tires. I bet it's the tires.
Funny - I found the screens clear and easy to understand, and pretty intuitive to use.
Regarding the ergonomics, I have to agree about the screen - it's not that great.
However - the general seating posistion, the relationship between the seat, the bars and pegs suited my size perfectly. I'm 182 cm and 90 kilos.
When Neevesy speaks, the cycle world listens.
As always, great, great, review! Well spoken without fluff
Good honest review, thanks. I'm not into adventure style bikes...had a couple of Multistradas and tried them with a range of screens, and found the Pikes Peak screen to be the best (more wind, but cleaner air). I much prefer a more sporting position - my Supersport S was far comfier than the Multis for touring. But I digress...this 9GT looks good, and I like your longer review videos.
Great honest review, thanks.
Line your review! Keep up the good work!
Wow! That was real criticism. Great review, really honest.
“Once you see it, you can’t unsee it”
Thanks for that, I went from modern fighter jet, to awkward undercover cartoon character 🤣🤣
Always very good reviews with a real education👏👏👏💯
Have never seen that “face” before, and now i really cannot unsee it. Dammit.
Looks like Wall-E
Ever been scuba diving ?
Brilliant Neevesy as usual love your vids
Another great review from Michael Neeves 👍🔝👌
Another excellent review
Thanks for the review I did an Iron Butt on a 2019 Tracer 900. Full t rex bars and skid plate,, Kaoko throttle lock. Did very well. I'm no spring chicken anymore and the bike did the job in style. I always wear ear plugs on any bike so the wind noise was not that big an issue. I would recommend the bike for any serious tourer.
This review is still the most honest one I've found. I'm set to take delivery of my 2021 9 GT any day now (Pending recall service) and this video was a great addition to my decision making. Thanks for your comments, and stay safe out there!
Really great that you take noise and hearing seriously. Tinnitus is no fun. Thanks for mentioning the wind noise so honestly. Best bike reviewer in the world.
Honest review and spot on.👍🏻
Great vid , always amazed me when manufactures list fuel range, I have a 2019 gt and use it mostly back and fore my house in south wales to my partners house in Portsmouth (158 miles) a full tank gets me 3/4 of the way there, I'm also just over 6ft and your right, the noise is pretty intense, in comparison to the 2017 tracer 7, it's louder and I've gone from being able to ride 3 hours non stop to around 1hr45, before the numbness and wind blast forces a Greg's coffee and walk around 😀.
Thank you Neevesy and MCN for this very candid, forthright review. This is a bike I’ve been thinking about since I’d heard it was to be updated and revised.
This review is not that honest and candid. I think Neevesy is quite a likeable-y intelligent man, surely he noticed and was disgusted with that one headlight look - but then why did he not mention it?
Lights are very subjective in appearance. You have to look at the overall styling and judge it as a cohesive thing. To do that well, you have to see the proportions in-person with the naked eye and at many different angles.
I love honest reviews. If it's pure praise, or criticism it makes me wonder about the reviewer's bias. This has a lot of pro's and con's, and it includes changes from the previous generation. Thanks.
Good review Neevsys at least you speak the truth honda man myself watch all your reviews they are always good.
Great review good to hear good points and not so good points
“ Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. “ From “ The Gentleman” ? 🐖 🐷 Great review. Best!
You described the older version perfectly (I have one), it's amazing how much quieter it is when I stand up away from the screen going down the highway. I trust what you say about the new one. Shame about that silly dash, but I wonder if there could be a solution for the windscreen.🤔
Here is something I wonder about. IF all that noise is the result of a nearly verticle screen? Then why oh why would manufacturers not simply move the base of screen far forward allowing room to angle the top of the screen at a far mor sloped angle? I realize this would dramatically change the entire appearance making a bike look radically different than anything else on the market but hey what works IS what is beautiful to many of us
Loved the twin dash look
As a previous owner of the "old" 900 GT, I agree with the wind screen being the biggest reason why not to buy. You need a test drive at least!
The MRA windscreen with deflector worked for me, but it's not perfect.
Now that's a review! Thanks Neevesy
Very good review thank you. AirHawk R seat cushions are excellent and make all the difference for longer distance riding.
LOL handle-bar moustache - I can never unsee this!! 😆😁😂
I have a Tracer 9 and thought the split screen would bother me. After the first ride I don’t think about it anymore. The buttons and menu system is super simple after one walk through learning it.
so you recommend it? are you tall? windscreennoise isnt a problem?
@@hhyling8483 Yes I recommend it. There is small amount of buffeting with the standard windscreen. I will test and see which windscreen I prefer. The touring windscreen which is a little bit bigger is one option. I’m 5”9
@@icucode Please let us know what you think of the touring screen in a comment once you have had a chance to test it. I am getting a Tracer soon and interested in getting possibly that touring screen. Cheers
Great to get what seems to be an honest balanced review. Thanks!
Had the SX, now got the new Tracer. I like both bikes for different reasons, SX looks, Tracer practicality and that engine. 😀 Saying that, I'll probably go back to a Kwak in a few years when the PCP is up.
Perfect review! Though I am still lost whether I should by standard or GT version. What would be your advice if use bike for weekends short- mid tours and city commuting? Thanks in advance! Simas
Now THATS i call a review.Congrats.
Screen turbulence has been an issue since day one on Tracers, its inexcusable that Yamaha haven't made an effort to fix that. My old GT gave me headaches, my T7 is miles better even with its tiny blade Dakar style screen.
To be fair they did make an effort (new windscreen) they just weren’t very successful
@@northeastpsychos A new screen that looks remarkably similar to the old one? Poor effort if so.
I just got my liscence , so I have no clue, but arent there aftermarket solutions for this windscreen problem; like a smaller screen?
@@hhyling8483 There are yes. Are you OK with paying £12k+ for a bike, and then having to buy several new screens, to find one that doesn't give you a headache? I put up with it on my old '19 GT as it was a few grand less, but now it's priced closer to premium bikes.
@@hhyling8483 Yup, your right. Put on a short screen that just covers clocks, sorted. For winter or touring I use a Puig touring with deflector. The only one (I tried loads) that was quite and no buffeting.
Two things I did to my 2022 T9GT is a Vcyclenut ECM flash and changing the front sprocket from the stock 16 T to a 15 T sprocket. This 6% change in final ratio made it a whole different bike in terms of sprightliness and rpms are only raised by 350 rpm from this change. No difference in mpg is noticeable and the bike tops out in 6th gear now instead of 5th. Also starting fully loaded in 1st is much better with this change. The windshield is crap. But MRA's vario touring screen completely transforms the bike and eliminates that issue.
Have thought about changing to this bike, but comments on seating position; screen and overall comfort is why I'll stick with my Pan European. 100kgs heavier, but wonderful to ride on long trips, especially with a full fairing and a 29 litre tank.
This was a great review. I especially liked how you talked about your height and how the bike worked for you. I'm an inch or two taller, so that's important to know. The main bike I want to own next is the 1000SX, so that comparison was super useful. Thanks again.
I'm 6'2 and i've ridden the SX (now Ninja 1000) great bike BUT the foot pegs are high (more acute angle) which I couldn't live with. I now own a Tracer 900 GT which fits me better
1000SX definitely has less leg room for taller people, say 33"+ inseam length. Also feels top heavy compared to many 750-950 naked style bikes.
Thanks again.
You can really compare a street (ZX) with a motard (T9), aerodynamics wise. Great review. You put me in a lot of thoughts, especially regarding prior 2021 models.
Great review. Am really waiting for you to review the new XSR900 - any clues on when you’ll get your mitts on one? Cheers
Good honest review. What’s with only a single spotlight working on the right? Is that some kind of weird driving lights thing, or just a bulb out?
With the GT you’re also in the ballpark of a Tiger 900 GT Pro - that would seem a better comparison than the Ninja 1000.
Very happy that you pointed out the dash 👀 and switch gear. WTF was Yamaha thinking? Well, animation! Time to change it.
Very good review. Thanks for doing the work and telling what it FEELS like to ride the bike and just spit out figures i can find myself on their website.
I love Neevesy. The motorcycling community does to and someone know this. I'm on my 5th commercial and i'm not even done watching the video.
Use an add blocker.
Can we get a Neevesy leaderboard where he ranks all the bikes he's tested recently? Maybe one board for track and one board for street.
Why is only the right running light on instead of both? Is that a UK requirement? Thanks for the review.
It is a beautiful, mature bike. Yes, the looks grow on you and you start to see its beauty. The sound, even with a stock exhaust, awesome.
I really like how you mind the windscreen noise! Its often overlooked and riders damage their hearing. The Z1000SX is out of reach for its really flat mounted screen. The Yamaha GT now could rather be compared to the new Honda NT 1100. Have you ridden it and how is the screen? THX!
Perhaps by fitting a really short, stubby screen it would improve things. A mate of mine did that to his KTM SA and loves it now.
An honest and humble opinion. Thank you Neevesy. 👍😎🇦🇺
Great review Neevesy. I have a 900 and as a taller bloke have found a few flaws in it. The pillion peg position is atrocious (waaaay too close to the rider's pegs). The screen is noisy (I have put the smallest one I can find on it and just live with the wind). And the total weight capacity was bizarrely low. Seems like the new one adds some more fruit but hasn't really fixed the fundamentals.
Damn you are good dude. Thank you.
I've had my 2021 tracer 9 gt since October. I agree the seat is uncomfortable after a few hrs. As for the screen, I'm 6ft 2", changed the stock screen for the Yamaha touring one and its made a big difference for me. But everyone is different so I'd just say if ur thinking of getting one just get a test ride. It's a hell of a bike for the money. Goes like stink when you want it too. Handles, looks gd, I think!, does 50mpg ish.. only down side is stock exhaust looks rubbish and not many options at present to fix that.
Glad the F900XR was mentioned as that idea popped up. What about versus a Tiger 900 GT? Actual offroad pretensions - but really the road version to most.
Very good review. How would you rate it with comparison to Africa twin?
Looks like you were crouched on it and that it was a bit small on you....
New Tracer gt plus is quite a nice step up with the switchgear, the new screen, adaptive cruise control etc, obviously a further £1.8k but if you use it as a tourer it's 100% worth it, basically a multistrada v4s light for a lot less money. Wider/better screen as well, I'm 180cm and I find it very nice.
Very Nice vídeo man. Do you know when this bike come to Brazil?
I love my 9gt handles great scratches the footpegs with confidence.i find the screen OK I'm 5'7 it's great for me.im comfortable on it quickshifter it really good but you got to be on it for the downshift to work at its best.only downfall is the panniers could be a bit bigger I can't fit my bell star into them.i recently done 1660 miles to Scotland and back to Wales couldn't fault it really ooo and yeah the tank could be a extra litre bigger getting about 200 mile with the light on other than that the bike is awesome
I always love your gear. Would you be so kind and provide details for what you’re wearing when you’re out for the ride?
Thanks man
04:19 I saw it! You just had to point it out didn't you? ...mustache man is looking at me now!
I hoped about two and a half inches off my 2020 windscreen,,no more win buffeting and still nice protection plus it looks much better ,,,would love in a slight smoke
I was up for one of these, but the wind noise and comfort has turned me off, many thanks.
Two big reasons I wouldn't buy, uncomfortable and the noise. Good honest review. And it needs shaft drive. Yamaha gave us this in the 70s with the XS 750/1100.
Neemesy, the guru of motorbike appraisals!
Optional Yamaha top box, I believe it was made by Givi, was available for the 2020 model. I have one. So I would assume it was available for the 2019 model as well.
I have fitted the givi v47 to my 2019 tracer gt absolutely no issues 👍🏻
Why is the cornering light at the front on the right always on and the left light is always off ? Never really seen one of these up close in person. Just wondering !
Thanks for making me unable to unsee that face in the dash lol
This bike has had some great reviews, this is the first I’ve seen that’s slightly negative
Therefore honest
Many reviewers were paid/rewarded for doing it
I have a tracer 9 and are a little bit shorter 5”9. There is a little bit of buffeting but not much. All the other negatives I think is personal since I don’t experience them. An awesome bike in my opinion 😊
@@icucode agreed
@@rockyp3917 an honest opinion. He isn’t the definitive answer to all things regarding motorcycles
On my '15 Tracer, I swapped the screen for a much smaller one. (Puig I think). Meant the wind hit chest rather than head. Still had enough protection to ride comfortably at 90 mph, but noise problem solved.
Also swapped seat for a Bagster one, which sorted bum problems out; better firmer padding and better shape. May wait until both options avalable for Tracer 9 before pulling trigger.
I love the dash..very clear, don't want a TFT. The menu is easy..I had the crf 1100 with the Tft; and really don(t miss it.The saddle is good for me, the screen need to be replaced.
Really like your realistic reviews 👏👍
cool bike - more please
Haha the District9 prawn head is also something you can't unsee.
Neevvsy, I can't stop laughing! You are spot on with the cartoon character description. I can see it even with eye's closed.
this will be my next bike!
Have they finally moved the foot rests forward to achieve a touring riding position?
Hey Neevesy I got a Tracer because of your reviews
Couple things seemed a bit off in this review. Screens can be replaced, and I have a feeling this one will have a lot of options. I went through three on my VStrom 1K and found a SHORTER screen with a different profile and smaller mirrors did the trick; and that was a legendary, brain-melting problem. But, not a deal killer. Just finished a 1400 mile, 3-day trip with it and I can hear just fine :). And considering the more cramped leg position on the 1000SX, probably the most direct competitor, I'm surprised with Neevesy's comments. That IS a deal killer, specially since the GT's bars, pegs, and seat adjust. It's super easy to get negative because of an effed-up screen (No excuse, Yamaha, FIX THAT!), but maybe he should've waited another few days for what seems could've been a more objective review. For its intended purpose, it seems to have hit the middle of the target. BTW, the GT $2K price delta is EASILY reconciled: heated grips, fitted luggage, U/D quick shifter, semi-active suspension, cornering lights.
this windscreen business seems like rocketscience, I just got liscense and are about to buy my first bike,(maybe tracer9) but it seems this screen-noise problem in general is one of the biggest problems out there.
@@hhyling8483 and rightfully so! Nothing more annoying than having wind blasting your face. I do wear ear plugs all the time so I am wondering if this is a problem
Even with ear plugs, you get your eardrums hammered for a few hours with low frequency pounding and it sure jacks up your fatigue level. I'd much rather listen to a good exhaust note than the million little hammers whacking my helmet.
I've tried various screens on certain bikes (I am 6-2" but average torso length) and the only real solution is getting the shortest thing you can find, or take it off. But then some of the reason for an ADV is better wind protection than some UJM naked, or sports naked. One thing I have noticed on sportsbikes with fairings, the windscreens are curved from the mount to the top, both laterally and linearly. To just stick a straight piece of polycarbonate at 75° from vertical introduces massive pressure variance at the top edge of the screen, causing high speed air to dump and spin as it spills over the edge into a low pressure pocket behind the screen. All that swirling and dancing air slams into your helmet chin or face usually and that's the "million little hammers" sound. Seems if they curved the screen to dump the air into the rider at the kind of angle the air is already flowing, it wouldn't be so dirty and rough and loud. The automotive manufacturers know a thing or two about releasing air off the back of a vehicle with minimal drag and buffeting. Seems the motorcycle manufacturers could learn some from them.
But then I prefer to put my head and shoulder tops into clean air, letting the full face helmet do the work of wind control. I sweat too much with no air flow around my helmet.
@@exothermal.sprocket just got my liscense, and did 3 test rides , and I noticed that the honda 1100 (cruiser) with no screen had NO NOISE but the others (ktm and yamaha) with small screens ,10-15 inch, made tremendous noise , really quit unbearable , maybe NO screen is best?
@@hhyling8483 I think it's really all about "clean" air. My Speed Triple naked was more comfortable than that crappy standard screen on the VStrom. The buffeting was killing my head. The shorter screen created a small bubble to tuck into if needed, but the clean air hitting my helmet was a huge improvement. Yeah, this is a big issue for the manufacturers.
Just my 2 cents with regards to the points made: I think this is a dazzler for sure. Once you put an exhaust on it, and usually most tracer owners I met do, It's always one of the more head turners at meets and cafes (when moving, not sitting still) My problem is a used tracer GT in acceptable condition is 8k+ right now. Now the problem with that is there is another kid (two actually) on the block at a price range in the used market that really invade this bike's cozy little place. The S1000XR (Gen 1) and the Multistrada 1200/1260S. The 1260 multi costs almost the same as the Tracer used about 500-1000 more, the 1200 is much cheaper (6000-6500) and the S1000XR is right on the money (7500-8500) Now the XR is a superior machine to all of these ability wise, and fulfills and extremely similar role to the Tracer 900 GT (and i mention GT spec as it's the more high end/popular model and even that barely reaches base spec XR levels, which there are not many of). The tracer was really on my radar but the regular 900 is too barebones and old to be a meaningful upgrade from something like a Versys 650, and the GT would be meaningful but then you have the XR and the Multi which both knock the Tracer 900 out of the park. I realise it's not fully apples to apples, but realistically if you set yourself a budget of say 9k. You might be able to scoop a tracer with 5k miles on it. but for the same money you can scoop a fully specced, luggaged XR with like 10-15k miles on it. When I got out to buy a bike, the bang for the buck is fundamental, mileage is secondary, and realistically for 9k you can get an XR that'll last you a very long time. Service costs are quite bad on the Multi but the 1200 is also cheaper, and the XR is not that much more expensive than the Tracer 900. You're probably paying a 20-30% premium at most, and considering the bike is probably gonna be slightly cheaper you can make up the difference there.
Obviously this is all for the USED market.
Brand new is a different story, however if you're out there to get a touring bike once you start speccing the GT out with basics (boxes, QS, heated grips, little protection maybe) you're close at 14k.
Now for 14k You can also get a barebones Gen 2 XR (which still has more goodies than the tracer) or spend a little more to spec it out, and at 16.5k you got the whole shebang. I feel like when you're ready to drop 14k on a brand new bike, not going the extra step to 16.5k to get the XR is like leading the race and then giving up on the last lap, settling for 2nd place.
That's just my view of this bike. I think it is fantastic, but it's relatively advanced spec commands a price that takes it into the territory of the real big boys, and it's not quite up there.
'apples to apples' ? not even!
You just compared a venus-fly-trap to a tasty delicious fit-for-a-king Mango . The Mango being Kawasaki bikes, especially the 1000SX.
@@maldridge7630 This is a very similar case to Yamaha's R7 vs the Aprilia 660. Why spend 9k when for 10.5k you can get a muuuuuchhh better bike?
@@AntaresSQ01 well sad 👍🏻
I had a Tracer 900GT new last year, couldn't get on with it, didn't gel for me so this year got myself a new MT10 tourer for £12,800 The difference is night and day for not a lot more money.
How about from a fuel range standpoint? That's probably the only thing that would keep me from getting a MT10 touring. But damn, I love the engine sound on the 10. I like the 9's engine note, but I think the 10/R1 motor is the best sounding of all motorcycles bar none.
@@racerdaveracerdave Fuel range is the Achilles heel for sure, something I'll have to get used to. I had a 2014 FJR and that was like fill it up and forget all day :D
@@HepcatHarley What kind of range do you typically get from it?
@@racerdaveracerdave It's still on its first tank of fuel (brand new bike lol) but I'm at 104 miles and two bars left on the gauge, I'll let you know :)
@@HepcatHarley Gotcha. Well enjoy your new (and awesome) bike!
What is the model of the Kawasaki you recommend for taller riders? I’ve replayed that part but can’t make out what you said. My hearing isn’t the best.
Ninja 1000SX
Hi, thanks for review, you said that for tall persons is more apropriate a z1000sx. I am 1,87m and 82 kilos, do you think is better for me kawasaki ninja 1000sx? Best regards!
All you need to know about a bike. MN gives an Insightful, intelligent and practical review of the bike from a real world perspective. I have already test ridden and thought it would be interesting to compare his view. Excellent video review!
hmm I thinking about Tracer 9GT vs Ninja 1000sx, so now I am not sure now :D Comparsion riding in the city between these 2? I know for longer idestances will ninja win but can ninja make same good job in the city?
Isn’t the Suzuki v storm 1050 a competitor?
I had a go on the GT today - pretty much exactly the same experience. The screen alone is a deal-breaker. I'm 5' 10'' and in the lower setting, the screen is atrocious, directing air to exactly the wrong part of my helmet. In the higher setting, the screen is merely very bad indeed. Suspension great, quickshifter good, brakes adequate, engine... well, it's all relative, but coming from an MT10 it's just a little wheezy and underwhelming.
Same feeling i have mate. Got a 19 Tracer GT and I dont love it, its just ok. Will I get another, no I will not.
so what dont you like? the windscreen noise? (I just got my liscense , trying to figure out what bike to buy),
I cannot believe the screen noise is still an issue-it will be the main reason I'll be selling my 2018 Tracer 900. I've tried four different screens (six different setups including clip ons) and only now found one that's just acceptable. Yamaha must've known this was an issue and had plenty of time to fix it for the Tracer 9, but decided not to...
Which screen did you find that works for you? Cheers
@@patrickrosello9583 a short/small screen, Puig’s Racing Screen, made the biggest mistake difference. I believe Ermax has a decent short screen as well. Als added slightly tighter cheek pads to my Shoei Neotec II, which seemed to help (but really, the short screen is the main improvement) And as a last potential and additional fix, hand guard extensions from Givi.