For real tho zl1 driver is not very good he over drives the staging light then sleeps at the light then short shifting and letting off the gas to much when shifting may of been nervous or just needs more passes.
incorrect. Read a post well above and it has been confirmed this is an ECU issue with the manual that even tuning can't fix. The torque is limited electronically off the line.
AND in terms of speed. In fact the new Cadillac CT5 blackwings (the new CTSV) does 0-60 in 3 seconds....the M6 does 0-60 in 4.1 seconds..... Besides everyone owns a fucking BMW. Who would want what everyone else already gots? There like hell cats and mustangs. No thanks! LOL
Bro for how fast that caddy got off the line it sure didn’t hold its speed wortha shit, Camaro caught right up to it, and if it were a half mile would of smoked it
The V driver was much more experienced. I could tell that from the beginning. I think the ZL1 might take the CTS-V with the right driver. Both outstanding cars. Win-Win for GM.
Josh Herlo then why do they show reaction time when i watch dragsters if the clock doesnt start til you cross the starting line? Why would they even have to race next to eachother if they dont both start when the light turns green?
Not adding reaction time, it shows that the ZL1 was faster both in quarter mile time and top speed, regardless of being a manual. The driver just started late.
The Camaro ran an 11.99 at 122mph while the CTS ran a 12.32 at 114. In what universe did the Caddy win. Learn basic drag racing boys. Thats handicap racing. Learn it, live it, love it.
Robert Verman powerful? they both share the same fucking engine.... lol TBH im dissappinted that Camaro couldnt provide better performance. Even when they have all the advantage of not worrying about luxury.
11.99 isn't a bad run at all for a manual ZL1. People keep calling him a bad driver, I'd love to see all of you 16 years old line it up when you're used to driving your auto Civics.
Not a bad driver just needs a little practice with the launch on the zl1. Don’t blame him. By the way the zl1 is clearly quicker than the v in this video. Although I’m a fan of both the V’s interior is insane!😱 both Badass cars
Caddy All Day... Even if it didn't win I'll still go for the caddy. Caddy = Luxury Sports car (sophisticated) Camaro = Regular Sports car (for the not yet mature)
😂😂😂😂😂😂what an idiot. Have you ever been in a fully loaded zl1? They're owned by the same company you fucking pickle tit. THEY USE THE SAME MATERIALS 😂😂😂 What's your favorite flavor of crayon ??
@@Mrmccord225 fully loaded Chevy 75k. Fully loaded Caddy 105k. There is a huge difference.... Like damn near another car... Drive both and tell me which you are taking home...
@@ryansaunders65 okay.. fully loaded vette Chevy top car.. 100k+ Fully loaded v is caddys top car.. 100k+ If we're talking flagship cars then I'm taking home the vette.. If we're talking top of the line zl1 which is the 1le I'm taking the zl1. Simply because the rear end of the caddys are fugly. And I prefer muscle car looks.
@@ryansaunders65 Also when I bought my hellcat I test drove the gt350, zl1, and a cts-v because the Chevy dealer had a pre owned one with 11k miles on it. So I said fuck it and tried it lol. ...and I bought the hellcat .. so..
Cant fit my kids in the back of a camaro, cts v takes the win for me. But id love a camaro. Blindspots are terrible though, my pops had the 2016 camaro and an 05 cts v. Enjoyed both very much, but i my self buy boats... 2 Devilles, a delta 88, 2 buicks... old people cars for the young family man.
How many blind people are on this site? Everyone seemed to watch the drivers terrible start. BUT if you look the ZL1 beat it. The Cadillac ran a 12.32 at 114.78 MPH the ZL1 11.99 at 122 MPH. So basically the slow start it still broke 12 seconds.
well, maxx, you were right. I work at the plant where both the CTS an ATS are built. I went to our employee website an you do not have the option for the stick shift on the cts-v. my bad!
Both cars are built on the GM Alpha platform. Both has the same supercharged LT4 V-8 engine from the Corvette Z06, but the Camaro ZL1 has 650 horsepower while the Cadillac CTS-V has been down tuned at 640 horsepower. The driver of the Camaro did not get a good jump at the start line.
I got a ATS its top speed is 160 mph which is 260 kms and take off is 0 to 100km in 5.4 seconds way faster then the Camaro or mustang ..Cadillac's are very nice cars I must say there well built.
I wonder how this would have turned out had the Camaro driver not been asleep at the wheel? I love both of these cars and really had no idea of what the result might be, but they need to try another run while the ZL! driver is one his toes, the gas and the clutch peddle.
Y’all saying the camaro didn’t win and is slower than the caddie are ignorant af. The times starts when you launch the car, that’s why the zl1’s time was quicker than the cts V’s and he started late
Don't need that manual anymore. I drag and track my V, and the paddle shifters are much faster than the manual. Love racing the Hellcats as they lose ground every shift.
JUST u bunch of Camaro fanboys starts questioning, Where did cadillac get all those powers from. Unless uve been living under the Rock, Cadiilac have been going around the world on GT racing events and actually winning many events, coming second on world aggregate manufacturers based score, ahaed of the McLaren GT and losing only to Porsche in 2017. They now know what makes a car a car. U can brag about Hellcats and Camaro, but they havent proved much when it comes to Racing. The fôrd Mustang atleast its heritage on Track events too. Cadillac is on a whole new platform with its DTi VR , and on the next event at Daytone 24. FYI The F1 driver Fernando Alonso will also be there..
Not a bad race. True the Zl was a little lazy off the start but more runs and track exp will help with this. To all those saying he should've got an A10 I strongly disagree and yes I KNOW the A10 is faster off the line and better for a track monster but guess what? Where is the fun in that? Sorry but in a sports car/muscle car let me do the work and shift my own gears. It's a pity and this is why the manual trans is almost extinct. My 16 Z06 is w manual no auto's for me and I have a 16 ctsv that only comes with A8 (smh). This was a decent race either way.
Lol, now now kiddo. Get off mommies computer it's almost your bed time you know. You need to be rested to peddle that huffy to junior high tomorrow morning
the ZL1 driver wasn't nearly as lazy as it looked. His green light was later than the CTS. That's why he ended up running him down. It was a handicapped race. Watch it again :-)
Only thing he did wrong was the launch. He left the line late yes. But the time doesnt start until u cross the start. He ran a faster time by half a second
I think the Camaro was slow off the line. They both have the same motor but the CTS-V has 10 less horses and about 500 more pounds so this shouldn't be much of a race.
Anyone know if a stock 2017-2019 ZL1 with the 10 speed Auto can actually run Chevy's claimed 11.4 quarter mile or 3.5 second 0-60 miles? Any owners out there accomplish that or seen that at a dragstrip?
hes right, actually my stock V2 manual would run exactly those times but with a mph or 2 higher 116-117ish. with intake, ported TB, zl1 blower, dewitts cooler, and muffler delete i was pulling high 119-121mph traps. thats minimal mods done in my driveway ! V2 all day !
TasteMyStinkhole this troll comments on almost every single video that contains ctsv or ford... I've seen her ignorant remarks amd always mentioning her "M3" its hilarious, i bet she cant even beat these two people if she was called out on it lol
It was not a handicap (bracket) race as one posted. The Camaro just SUCKS On reaction. That’s how you beat a person quicker than you, you out “tree” them.
don't buy Cadillac people, I worked at a Cadillac dealer in Washington and those cars I have to say they suck like no tomorrow!! we shade broken transition on new car after only 25000 miles hahaha
Dear Lou had to take only $800.00 for my 1979 Cadillac phaeton 4-door sedan that was 1-835 made that year hope it will turn up with you doing the story the new owner is winbun of Joliet!
NihselAuto So I'm guessing all the German power brands have it wrong? RS/M/AMG all recognize the need for AWD in this power range. Caddy can't compete--not even in the same class. Look at the sales numbers. Another missed opportunity for GM smdh
Rush Love The German brands like MB and BMW run on a 4WD RWD bias system. What does that mean? It means at full throttle the rear wheels get majority of the power. When traction is loss, the power is transferred to the front wheels by 30%-50% That what MB markets. Not really a true AWD drive like the old GM vehicles like the GMC Syclone. On the new M5 F90, it similar but you can activate full RWD from the settings.
Um... The CTS-V did not win. The Camaro had the fastest time. Do you guys know how to read the results sign? Love both cars, but damn, people on here must be blind.
When the guy in the Camaro ordered his car he checked all the boxes on the options list but the most important one, driver lessons.
The ZL1 needs a driver mod.
ZL1 is a 10 sec car, he ran nearly 2 secs too slow
Devil Dog lmaoooo im saying tho
I know. It's amazing how people comment without looking at the finish.
For real tho zl1 driver is not very good he over drives the staging light then sleeps at the light then short shifting and letting off the gas to much when shifting may of been nervous or just needs more passes.
incorrect. Read a post well above and it has been confirmed this is an ECU issue with the manual that even tuning can't fix. The torque is limited electronically off the line.
That CTS is a beautiful sedan. Definitely competes with the M6 GC in terms of looks
AND in terms of speed. In fact the new Cadillac CT5 blackwings (the new CTSV) does 0-60 in 3 seconds....the M6 does 0-60 in 4.1 seconds..... Besides everyone owns a fucking BMW. Who would want what everyone else already gots? There like hell cats and mustangs. No thanks! LOL
Nah that cadi better
@@EliteOnTheBeat and you can get it a manual. Something the Germans aren’t offering
Lmao the ct5 blackwing 0 to 60 in 3.7 and the m6 does it in 3.8 your times are all wrong
Yeah i knew 4.1 was way slow for an m6 lol
Why would you even buy the Camaro if you can get almost the same performance plus all the luxury of a caddy
Bro for how fast that caddy got off the line it sure didn’t hold its speed wortha shit, Camaro caught right up to it, and if it were a half mile would of smoked it
@nathanlambert1502 and if it was an 8th mile, the camaro would've got spanked even more so whats your point
The V driver was much more experienced. I could tell that from the beginning. I think the ZL1 might take the CTS-V with the right driver. Both outstanding cars. Win-Win for GM.
Dude, this is difference between terrible driver with a stick in the ZL, vs auto. If it was an auto ZL, it would smoke the V.
wtf? zl1 did Win. 11.9 v 12.3...
The ZL1 did win... showing you're own inexperience with this comment. Drag strip clocks dont start till you cross the line. This is not a street race.
Josh Herlo then why do they show reaction time when i watch dragsters if the clock doesnt start til you cross the starting line? Why would they even have to race next to eachother if they dont both start when the light turns green?
Not adding reaction time, it shows that the ZL1 was faster both in quarter mile time and top speed, regardless of being a manual. The driver just started late.
The Camaro ran an 11.99 at 122mph while the CTS ran a 12.32 at 114. In what universe did the Caddy win. Learn basic drag racing boys. Thats handicap racing. Learn it, live it, love it.
I don't get people's I don't know what they're looking at either it's clear as Hell I'll take either one of them win win how I see it haha
Robert Verman powerful? they both share the same fucking engine.... lol TBH im dissappinted that Camaro couldnt provide better performance. Even when they have all the advantage of not worrying about luxury.
Trust me..that caddy is setting up a money run..he backed down because the terminals on the V3s are MUCH higher than 114mph
All I said was the Camaro is a very powerful monstrous car nothing else so what exactly are you saying?
Jose Uribe um considering you have to drive it, Im not sure its the 'Camaros performance'
Yes the ZL1 ran him down and ran a better time, but the CTS-V won the race, hence the light going off. A faster time doesn’t always mean winning 😂💀
If he got a faster time don't you think he would of won? Lol
Dude in the camaro is a very bad driver
brandon wright hahaha frs 😂😂😂
He started all late
brandon wright Tha is true experience 0 from the manual transmission! 😂😂 the ZL1 is a beast on the track lighter than Cadillac!
NOLIMT _ And still made better times
I agree.
Starts at 1:39
We need people like you
11.99 isn't a bad run at all for a manual ZL1. People keep calling him a bad driver, I'd love to see all of you 16 years old line it up when you're used to driving your auto Civics.
Agreed man
Not a bad driver just needs a little practice with the launch on the zl1. Don’t blame him. By the way the zl1 is clearly quicker than the v in this video. Although I’m a fan of both the V’s interior is insane!😱 both Badass cars
that Camaro driver was asleep at the line and ran him down anyway :-)
Jon Ogden still didn’t win
It was not about start wins.
Doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile winnings winning lol
Those numbers lied like hell. That Camaro LOST LIKE HELL hahahaha I love both cars but I'm not blind. That Cadillac V-series won by a long shot
Ran him down my ass Cadillac is victorious
Caddy All Day... Even if it didn't win I'll still go for the caddy.
Caddy = Luxury Sports car (sophisticated)
Camaro = Regular Sports car (for the not yet mature)
😂😂😂😂😂😂what an idiot.
Have you ever been in a fully loaded zl1?
They're owned by the same company you fucking pickle tit.
THEY USE THE SAME MATERIALS 😂😂😂
What's your favorite flavor of crayon ??
@@Mrmccord225 fully loaded Chevy 75k. Fully loaded Caddy 105k. There is a huge difference.... Like damn near another car... Drive both and tell me which you are taking home...
@@ryansaunders65 okay.. fully loaded vette Chevy top car.. 100k+
Fully loaded v is caddys top car.. 100k+
If we're talking flagship cars then I'm taking home the vette..
If we're talking top of the line zl1 which is the 1le I'm taking the zl1. Simply because the rear end of the caddys are fugly. And I prefer muscle car looks.
@@ryansaunders65 Also when I bought my hellcat I test drove the gt350, zl1, and a cts-v because the Chevy dealer had a pre owned one with 11k miles on it. So I said fuck it and tried it lol.
...and I bought the hellcat .. so..
Cant fit my kids in the back of a camaro, cts v takes the win for me. But id love a camaro. Blindspots are terrible though, my pops had the 2016 camaro and an 05 cts v. Enjoyed both very much, but i my self buy boats... 2 Devilles, a delta 88, 2 buicks... old people cars for the young family man.
How many blind people are on this site? Everyone seemed to watch the drivers terrible start. BUT if you look the ZL1 beat it. The Cadillac ran a 12.32 at 114.78 MPH the ZL1 11.99 at 122 MPH. So basically the slow start it still broke 12 seconds.
Your right
Deadly serious race car power and suspension... Now on stock street cars! It's a great time to be alive boys and girls.
Cars cost a lot more now for all the performance but the depreciation still comes in handy when you finally able to afford to buy 1
@@lionyleftwich4418 Heck yes Bro! I'm finally in a position to get one of these monsters!
I don't mind having both, especially in those colors.
DaNihselAuto Foreal and they both have the same engine
Just incase people didn't know they dont count your time until your wheels start moving. So it doesnt matter how long you sit at the light.
I’m a V fan, but if the zl1 reaction time was quicker he for sure would’ve gapped the V
Doesn't matter. Caddy all the way. It's a luxury car.
@@dgiotopulos right u really can't compare a luxury vehicle to a muscle car
@@birdwayne4358 pony car
Wife: "Just go when you see the other guy go, honey."
People saying the ZL1 driver was bad the V ran 12.3. The V2s run that these should do 11.6 to 11.8 with a solid launch.
Too bad you can't option a manual trans in the ctsv anymore
maxxjett films (
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yes you can!
hamilton197432 used to could, not anymore with the ctsv. the atsv you can still option a stick, but that's a completely different car.
well, maxx, you were right. I work at the plant where both the CTS an ATS are built. I went to our employee website an you do not have the option for the stick shift on the cts-v. my bad!
hamilton197432 Are Cadillacs reliable?
The V should trap 120, not sure how his trap speed was lower than my stock ATS V.
your stock ats v isn't trapping 120 unless it's tooned
Love both cars
Damn the ZL1 looks insane from a distance. It looks seriously pissed off
Neither driver knows how to race. Love the open face 1970's all white special needs helmet👍
They both have ls engines. But damn that launch by that 4 door 😂
Not ls lt4 supercharged v8
What’s the name of that song ??
1:38 ☻☻☻
Camaro caught up too
The Meezy that's probably because the Cadillac is a four-door did you know a Cadillac CTS-V wagon can beay a type of Ferrari what can your car beat???
Love the Chevy aggressive look
Both cars are built on the GM Alpha platform. Both has the same supercharged LT4 V-8 engine from the Corvette Z06, but the Camaro ZL1 has 650 horsepower while the Cadillac CTS-V has been down tuned at 640 horsepower. The driver of the Camaro did not get a good jump at the start line.
I got a ATS its top speed is 160 mph which is 260 kms and take off is 0 to 100km in 5.4 seconds way faster then the Camaro or mustang ..Cadillac's are very nice cars I must say there well built.
Idc I like both
That ZL1 A monster 😄🙌🏽
The CTS we got a Headstart
I wonder how this would have turned out had the Camaro driver not been asleep at the wheel? I love both of these cars and really had no idea of what the result might be, but they need to try another run while the ZL! driver is one his toes, the gas and the clutch peddle.
Y’all saying the camaro didn’t win and is slower than the caddie are ignorant af. The times starts when you launch the car, that’s why the zl1’s time was quicker than the cts V’s and he started late
Don't need that manual anymore. I drag and track my V, and the paddle shifters are much faster than the manual. Love racing the Hellcats as they lose ground every shift.
JUST u bunch of Camaro fanboys starts questioning, Where did cadillac get all those powers from. Unless uve been living under the Rock, Cadiilac have been going around the world on GT racing events and actually winning many events, coming second on world aggregate manufacturers based score, ahaed of the McLaren GT and losing only to Porsche in 2017. They now know what makes a car a car. U can brag about Hellcats and Camaro, but they havent proved much when it comes to Racing. The fôrd Mustang atleast its heritage on Track events too. Cadillac is on a whole new platform with its DTi VR , and on the next event at Daytone 24. FYI The F1 driver Fernando Alonso will also be there..
Caddie all day
Lawrence MacDonald relax the ZL1 will smoking the Cadillac everyday is faster car but the Cadillac is brother!
Wish the camaro had a better driver
What's the point buying a fast car with a lot of horsepower .you can't drive over 70 speed limit on the high way.
The Shield what’s the point of killing yourself if you’re gonna die anyway
get on ramps on interstates dont have speed limits, and some states have higher than 70 speed limits.
1:28 if you want to see a race
Brothers LT4! 😚😎
Not a bad race. True the Zl was a little lazy off the start but more runs and track exp will help with this. To all those saying he should've got an A10 I strongly disagree and yes I KNOW the A10 is faster off the line and better for a track monster but guess what? Where is the fun in that? Sorry but in a sports car/muscle car let me do the work and shift my own gears. It's a pity and this is why the manual trans is almost extinct. My 16 Z06 is w manual no auto's for me and I have a 16 ctsv that only comes with A8 (smh). This was a decent race either way.
Lol, now now kiddo. Get off mommies computer it's almost your bed time you know. You need to be rested to peddle that huffy to junior high tomorrow morning
the ZL1 driver wasn't nearly as lazy as it looked. His green light was later than the CTS. That's why he ended up running him down. It was a handicapped race. Watch it again :-)
Only thing he did wrong was the launch. He left the line late yes. But the time doesnt start until u cross the start. He ran a faster time by half a second
114mph trap from the caddy. Ouch.
Both Cars R Nice 😎👍
I think the Camaro was slow off the line. They both have the same motor but the CTS-V has 10 less horses and about 500 more pounds so this shouldn't be much of a race.
Russell Ollie unless 1 driver sucks. The faster car loses in this case..#drivermodfail
+Russell Ollie, the 2017 CTS-V is actually tested at 700hp.
Sure about that? I haven't seen a dyno run with this sort of number for a stock V3 CTS-V.
2017 CTS-V --640hp out the door....
Anyone know if a stock 2017-2019 ZL1 with the 10 speed Auto can actually run Chevy's claimed 11.4 quarter mile or 3.5 second 0-60 miles? Any owners out there accomplish that or seen that at a dragstrip?
LuvKills Slowly 0-60 3.4 I’ve seen many camaros on this channel that were auto do mid 10’s.
Did the guy in the zl1 launch in 3rd gear? Lmao.
That CTS is bad ass.
The guy in the camaro choke at the start!
The cts would look so much better if it had larger wheel wells. It looks like it has the Cruise Tyre diameter.
Think the camaro driver was snoozing🤣🤣
why show a race where a car jumped the start ?
I think it was the wicked burn outs that got them those low et’s 😂
Terrible run for Caddy almost 10 mph and a full second off
That's about the time a stock v2 runs
Kareem Hailey fuck you buddy
hes right, actually my stock V2 manual would run exactly those times but with a mph or 2 higher 116-117ish. with intake, ported TB, zl1 blower, dewitts cooler, and muffler delete i was pulling high 119-121mph traps. thats minimal mods done in my driveway ! V2 all day !
TroBudden but like the driver was no bueno
If the camaro had a better driver it would've won, not that I'm hating on Cadillacs or anything because I like both
114mph in the CTSV?! What are they in Colorado or something? That CTSV should be 120+mph.
Good job driving through the water box and getting your tires wet before the run....
Someone wake up the camaro driver
Camaro guy was sleepin
Helen keller in the camaro...?
The Cadillac I noticed is forwards more than the Camaro if you look.
Zl1 is extremely hard to launch
Can't launch a stick shift without a proper burnout.
Race starts at 1:45
Good race. Slow start fro Camaro
The ZL1 was on drag radial while the CTS-V was on stock tires
114 wtf he let off the gas at the end they trap better then that
I sure as hell hope so, cause that's pathetic.
My 16' M3 is faster than that, lol.
a regular ss traps 114 lol
Yah well they trap in the 120's stock 650hp stock, 800hp for a couple mods for an easy 140 trap
TasteMyStinkhole this troll comments on almost every single video that contains ctsv or ford... I've seen her ignorant remarks amd always mentioning her "M3" its hilarious, i bet she cant even beat these two people if she was called out on it lol
Same engine. Just ones slightly detuned and the car it's in is heavier, and $30k more.
12 second time slips means both are easy pickings for a Hellcat!
Camaro was sleeping at the tree
I don't know which car i would rather have more
Who won
If it were auto vs auto, the ZL would smoke the V. It's 400 lbs lighter.
lmao when a 2 door gets smoked by a 4 door
Giveaway G0D camaro won lmao
It was not a handicap (bracket) race as one posted. The Camaro just SUCKS On reaction. That’s how you beat a person quicker than you, you out “tree” them.
don't buy Cadillac people, I worked at a Cadillac dealer in Washington and those cars I have to say they suck like no tomorrow!! we shade broken transition on new car after only 25000 miles hahaha
The driver of the V should be ashamed, he got the jump and still got ran down.
bmwmdude yout dumb the only reason is because he got cocky and let off throttle
Charger hellcat vs Camaro zl1 turbocharged
metal sonic 09 you’ll need that turbo charged lmao
I have the last year manual transmisson, love it but breaks all the damn time. To bad the guy in the camero doesn't know how to drive.
What the fuck was the ZL1 driver looking at
Looks like the comment section doesn't know how drag races are won
Dear Lou had to take only $800.00 for my 1979 Cadillac phaeton 4-door sedan that was 1-835 made that year hope it will turn up with you doing the story the new owner is winbun of Joliet!
They both need driver mods lol
Based on the caddy’s speed I doubt it was a V or he let off 640hp and about 4300lbs does not equal a 114 trap
C ts v weight is 4141 pounds
The Caddy should have AWD....
No need since the Stabilitrak and traction are well advanced. Only time AWD drive is needed is traction. Besides, better to have RWD at full throttle.
NihselAuto So I'm guessing all the German power brands have it wrong? RS/M/AMG all recognize the need for AWD in this power range. Caddy can't compete--not even in the same class. Look at the sales numbers. Another missed opportunity for GM smdh
George Giannopoulos ZL1 2015 2017 shuts your racist snow cone vanilla icecream ass up bozo 💯😂
Rush Love The German brands like MB and BMW run on a 4WD RWD bias system. What does that mean? It means at full throttle the rear wheels get majority of the power. When traction is loss, the power is transferred to the front wheels by 30%-50% That what MB markets. Not really a true AWD drive like the old GM vehicles like the GMC Syclone. On the new M5 F90, it similar but you can activate full RWD from the settings.
NihselAuto the BMW is for trash the new ZR1 or the ZL1 1LE will smoke any European car garbage
I think the GM car won
Driver in the camaro was making a sandwich at the starting line !!!
ZL1 WAS SLEEPING ON THE LINE LOL
Driver mod... for the camaro🤔
The Caddy has four door. I will take it over the Chevy any day. I have owned both makes. I like the extra door for my dog.
Congratulations on your win at the terrible reaction time awards.
Um... The CTS-V did not win. The Camaro had the fastest time. Do you guys know how to read the results sign? Love both cars, but damn, people on here must be blind.
Is the ctsv awd?
Caddie won in real time but Camaro won in lap time.
Boy racer vs Elegant man.
The ZL1 had a quicker time and speed. I didn't look at the lights
I wish people would stop putting black wheels on every car. Half of the time it looks ugly and just makes the car look like it has dirty rims.
Camero 4 door anyone? Would be sick