*1-1 Mentorship Information: Price & Structure (Maximum Capacity = 20 Clients Per Year)* It's an absolute pleasure to film these CZcams videos, and I feel fortunate to receive an abundance of meaningful messages every week, but I am unfortunately faced with the disappointing reality of turning away the vast majority of people who want to work together. I have significantly limited availability and can only support twenty people per year because I do not offer one-off calls or drop-in consulting sessions. Twenty individuals might not sound like maximum capacity, but the last few years of teaching have taught me the importance of maintaining tight energetic boundaries if I want to keep uploading these free videos in addition to serving my current clients to the best of my ability in 2024. To minimise confusion and enhance transparency, I've spent several hours writing this ridiculously long comment to help you decide if my Inner Work Mentorship is the right choice for your development & what you could reasonably expect from working closely together. Please take the time to read this service description before contacting me on Instagram… or feel free to stop reading right now if you’re not interested in my fees, session structure, client expectations, etc. ... *READ BEFORE SCROLLING FURTHER:* I'm interested in long-term change and structural transformation, which is why I've never offered one-off sessions. Complex issues cannot be resolved in a few hours, but we likewise need to define an upper limit for containment and collaboration. I've learned that deep and enduring self-integration requires at least four months of immersive effort. Why four months? It's enough weekly contact for us to work through multiple complex issues and developmental possibilities, but short enough to mitigate against unconscious co-dependency and motivational stagnation. I'm currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month - message me after reading the following section to check my availability. ... *HOW I WORK & WHO I WORK WITH* Unlike other coaches and teachers who take an understandably more relaxed approach to healing and integration, my mentorships are characteristically intense. This is a highly-demanding, high-investment process which requires our consistent combined effort over a period of four months. If we were to start working together, I would reasonably expect you to be excited to show up for a minimum of 10+ hours of self-motivated transformative practice per week (daily reading, fitness routine, creative exercises, spiritual reflection, etc.) while also maintaining full-sobriety (no drink, no drugs, no cigarettes, no vapes). These strict standards of discipline and sobriety are plainly unsuitable for most people in most situations - even genuinely motivated individuals who resonate with my CZcams videos may not be the right match for four months of structured mentorship. If you want to get deeper, I've noticed that there's a certain type of ‘temperament' & 'timing’ to get the most out of me. I'm interested in alert, creative and purpose-driven individuals who aspire to exceptional standards of self-maturation and would enjoy the feeling of going through week-on-week of progressively stacked transformative experiences for a third of a year: my ideal client is somebody who is willing to bring forward their internal complexity with a sense of courage and transparency with the intention of nothing less than full-spectrum transformation & rapid acceleration on their personal path. I am yet to discover another supportive figure who offers something comparable to this mentorship: a four-month, structured yet flexible 1-1 container which is simultaneously therapeutic, academic and action-oriented; with primary focus placed on tangible improvements in your felt sense of self-knowledge and self-integration; in addition to making consistent and meaningful progress towards your unique goals and mentorship aspirations. I prioritise contact, compassion and accountability, which means that your work never really 'ends' at the end of your session. You can reasonably expect to be fed dozens of customised reading suggestions and follow-on perspectives outside of the formal sessions via friendly and informal messenger contact, where I am active and available four days per week to cultivate an intimate personal connection while likewise enhancing your positive momentum via accountability check-ins and additional support as required. By way of conclusion for what feels like an extraordinarily long comment and service description, I feel compelled to once more emphasise that working directly with me is unrealistic for most people in most situations. I often support people who are accustomed to wrestling with the emotional challenges associated with working through complex wounds in previous therapeutic relationships before we begin our coaching work together. Even individuals without 'hard trauma' can expect moments of pressurised darkness and heaviness during periods of shadow contact as you begin to restructure your personal unconscious. We will be exploring your psyche and soma at scale and depth, and it will be your responsibility to keep me informed about the emotional texture of your internal reality, especially if you encounter negatively charged experiences, and I will of course do everything in my power to support you through the hard times as we integrate the darkness and move forwards together. CZcams is a wonderful place for me to share free research resources and offer accessible inner work invitations; my private mentorships, however, are the place for collaborative partnership and emotional security as we identify, navigate and restructure oftentimes confronting and challenging conscious and unconscious physical, emotional and mental material. Ultimately, this is a highly-demanding but highly-rewarding process which requires the best of our shared intentions. ... *SESSION STRUCTURE & FEES:* The total fee for an Inner Work Mentorship (including 12 x 2 hr sessions) is £7,400 GBP or approximately $9,400 USD. This is my only coaching programme, and my mentorship pricing is liable to adjustment over time.
Each private session lasts two hours, and is facilitated via Telegram video call at an ideal time for both of us. Your mentorship extends over a linear four-month period, with a total of twenty-four hours of structured session time, in addition to four days per week of unlimited messenger availability for accountability updates, voice note exchanges and informal calls upon occasion. I do not work on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but I am fully-available across all timezones for regular calls and messenger contact on Thursday - Sunday. If you’ve scrolled this far, and resonate with what I’m offering, I invite you to message me on Instagram. It would be my pleasure to start exploring your goals and intentions in real-time. IMPORTANT: I am an intentionally independent coach, and not a licensed therapist or associated with any professional bodies or coaching institutions, and therefore enjoy the freedom to collaborate with my clients across all areas of life in an intimate, direct and highly involved coaching style. I work with no more than twenty people per year, and am currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month. I also manage my own inbox and do not use automated systems or employ people to pretend to be me on Instagram, which means that it usually takes four to six weeks for me to respond to new messages and begin the interview process. Although my approach takes time, I hope you ultimately appreciate my personal emphasis on authentic and confidential communication from the very beginning of our relationship. I once again encourage you to message me immediately if you want to start working together within the next two months - bump yourself to the top of my inbox, and I’ll send you some voice notes to get our conversation started.
In Japan, they say "itadakimasu" before eating meals, which translates to receiving, getting, accepting something or humbly taking. They refer to three things when saying that: 1. They thank the animal that's being eaten. 2. They thank everyone who was involved in bringing the food to their table. 3. They thank god and/or nature. The vast majority of Japanese say "itadakimasu" regardless of how religious they are. It's basic table manners. Being thankful for the food that sustains us is such a good practice!
"Who's searching will find" they say, and I'm really greatful that I've found your channel. Thank you for sharing the truth and wisdom. 🤍✨ And I wish the healing to everybody who's watching this.
Thank you Jordan, enigmatic. It's the semantics that slay me! The word "g o d" instantly fires up my hostility. And it's not God's fault. Organized religion: the atrocities committed by organized religions categorically disqualify them. But i noticed something odd, if i substitute the Italian words...no hostility is aroused. A quiet image, light filtering through stained glass, tiny flickering candles, consoling. My immigrant parents rejected the church, and never said a single word re belief. I suspect they were atheist, both in the sciences. They were still in the old country when Hitler's army marched across Europe, a faith/belief killer if there ever was one. I grew up atheist, though a number of uncanny experiences in my 20s caused me to question the atheism. I'm ok w/being in doubt. God is Love, we're here to love eachother
Yes, that word can be hard for some. It’s why we see so many referring to ‘the universe’ when really they’re just talking about God. Reclaiming the word can be powerful.
Thank you Jordan. I read Facing the Dragon, after you recommended it and I would highly recommend it also to the questioner. I would say it made me understand what is Satan (Alshaitan) in Quraan as a muslim born myself. Understanding this had broaden my understanding of humanity and mostly of God in an internal kinda of way. Not easy to describe with words. The book is a must read. I agree with you in the unity of spiritual texts, sincerely I see importance in all of them. Love your authenticity Jordan. Thank you so much for your efforts. The books you recommend are jewels. Much love and appreciation 💙
Speaking from the Christian background - this is an incredibly complex subject to tackle! Thank you for speaking with grace on a topic where many people are divided. Finding the universal principles on something as deeply personal as our relationship with God is a real challenge. We'll done 👏 Looking forward to more videos on these spiritual topics!
Had to certainly side-step some landmines in my preperation for this one... amazing how difficult it is to say anything at all in under 20 minutes on the topic hahah
My experiences have been that any religion that says they’re the only truth through strict adherence and blind faith is not your path and you should be very skeptical. Everyone has a unique path to walk alone and no one else’s with get you there 100% of the way based on your unique life experiences… I think you should take what you can from all teachings that resonates with you.
Thank you Jordan for acknowledging the Quran’s dominating emphasis on community and charity 🙏🏽 In times such these, Islam is demonized and Muslims are scapegoated. It lightens my heart to see a western intellectual understanding the spiritual significance of holy scriptures done in this video ❤ It really all boils down to humility, service and unity with others. Thank you for the book recommendations
Although I haven't studied Islam in depth, it does feel important to honour the importance of Muslim faith and likewise find what we can learn across cultures - thank you for your comment, wishing you the best.
i find that when it comes to God the key concept is how we communicate with God directly. It's depth of faith in prayer and meditation and the openness to the heartiness of the Relationship that develops spiritual understanding. Proper spiritual books can guide this very path.
Jordan this is good. It is about respect for all because ultimately every religion promotes an attitude of humility. Every world religion recognizes the reality of human brokenness - that we all grow up in a world of conditional love, where we experience shame, rejection, neglect and abuse. To compensate, our humanity recoils in fear and develops our complicated defenses. Trauma is the great leveler. Childhood trauma is the original sin and anyone attempting to heal is honorable and respectable regardless of dogma.
Beautifully said. It really is a process of an always developing relationship with God. I like especially the point of having reverence with it all. Ty🙏
you're right about the need to get offline to clear your head. But for the algorithm, I'll add this before I log out: for me, my biggest issue with God/the universe is being willing to trust that higher power again after seeing a loved one die in a very unjust way. However, I will admit that there are aspects of Christianity that I do respect and haven't really relinquished, like waiting until marriage to sleep with someone. Also, there have been arguments made for how prayer and spellcasting are one and the same. As far as the afterlife goes, I don't really know anymore where I'll end up when I die, and I guess that's the worst of it. Not just figuring out what you want your life to be but also being clueless about what will happen to you once you die. (I know that's morbid) Maybe you've thought about this a little more, Jordan, I don't know, but for me, I grew up thinking I would finally realize God at my death. Now I don't know.
I’m not personally sure about god realisation or afterlife experiences either… likewise working that out with you. Thank you for sharing some of your story.
I was having breakfast, listening to your video 😄, and it came to me that this is what my whole life has always been about. A dynamic, lived relationship with and to the divine. Haven't thought about it this expressly for a long time, it is so embedded into my life that by now it just feels "normal" :)
All that is and all that is not. But saying it isn't as helpful as your own direct experience and relationship with god indeed. You cannot be told the truth and understand it fully. You can only experience it.
Thank you. The need to label something that can't be fully defined in hopes of making sense of something from a mental construct that isn't tangible in the state of longing or grasping, but is tangible in the sense of recognizing it in the beauty of God's handywork ever present in daily life, often in the mundane, not the profane, in the simpleness, not the grandiosity...for me it was in surrender and reflection that I found that connection, which indeed is a humbling way. When I fell into the new age and started being exposed to the i am god narrative it never resonated with me and my body rejected this sentiment and thus listening to my own inner knowing began to propel me out of that belief system and into more contemplation. The biggest challenge I find is maintaining my compassion and grace for those that rebuke and shame me and others for not holding their belief or giving into their projected fears. I failed miserably at this and got very angry in 2020, which was a gift and little by little I've moved out of that and back into my heart. I tried to "expose" things going on in the world to family only once and in the most thoughtful way I knew how and was cast out...the black sheep they finally had an excuse to call crazy. It's taken me these past 3 years a lot of work to realize I can't save anyone, I can love from afar if my very existence is too confronting to their beliefs, I can look at my part in not communicating effectively, with grace, and zoom out in order to come into those type of situations with more emotional maturity and calmness. This topic is important and your delivery lends credence to the importance of personal connection over the ever present fad of virtue signaling perceived godliness. You may have another video already, but for me this connection to God and the "awakening" experience brings grief and sorrow, which I found very comforting. We live in a world that wants to squash down pain, repress tears and has completely lost the art of wailing. There is so much beauty in this part of the process, yet seemingly taboo and unwanted....tears cleanse and heal, wailing is prayer, are there books you recommend on this topic?
If you're looking for grief, tears and pain... there aren't many books I could recommend. It's about feeling it firsthand and moving through your own embodied experiences. I'm wishing you the aboslute best.
@@jordanthornton I agree and thank you for the reply. I've read some of Martin Prechtel's work where he talks about grief as a form of praise, which helped me recognize what I was experiencing was sort of an "accessing" of the primordial well. That's the only book I've found thus far that explores grief in this way.
I find it helpful to use my family's religion as a mooring point, with which to calibrate my perspective. I did and do move away from that point. I return often though, as I feel that much of my inner scaffolding bears the mark of my childhood, my family, my culture.
If you are going through the Qur'an Then go also through the Hadith Because To understand the Qur'an's Guidance you have to understand Hadith Hadith contains the life example of the person who lived based on the Quranic Guidance And if you want to study the thing related to heart and mind means it's abstract concept Then go Through Imam Ghazali books
Atleast half of the videos uploaded on this channel since ive discovered it feel like synchronicites. Im currently filled with faith, but faith for what exactly is the question ive been asking myself.
Thank you for this video! I wonder what your thoughts are on the link between mental health and religious beliefs. Do you think that religious or spiritual beliefs can cause one to have an external locus of control and suffer from a lack of inner strength (because one relies on God)? How can you balance your spiritual beliefs so that you can have a healthy mindset and lifestyle? Thank you lots, greetings from Sweden :D
An excellently worded question and full of exploration - I've screenshotted this and will answer with a full video as soon as I possibly can. Thank you, Sophia.
“Our death is our wedding with eternity What is the secret? "God is One." The sunlight splits when entering the windows of the house. This multiplicity exists in the cluster of grapes; It is not in the juice made from the grapes. For he who is living in the Light of God, The death of the carnal soul is a blessing. Regarding him, say neither bad nor good, For he is gone beyond the good and the bad. Fix your eyes on God and do not talk about what is invisible, So that he may place another look in your eyes. It is in the vision of the physical eyes That no invisible or secret thing exists. But when the eye is turned toward the Light of God What thing could remain hidden under such a Light? Although all lights emanate from the Divine Light Don't call all these lights "the Light of God"; It is the eternal light which is the Light of God, The ephemeral light is an attribute of the body and the flesh. ...Oh God who gives the grace of vision! The bird of vision is flying towards You with the wings of desire.” ― Rumi
I wonder about Jordan's reaction to "Answer to Job" by Carl Jung. Jung was clear that his work was a psychological take upon the divine characteristic(s) as documented in the Bible.
I read it on the train about a year ago and didn’t particularly resonate with it - not an important book for me personally, but hey not every book will be 😂
Thank you for sharing these works and for ALL of your videos and invites on God and healing🤗🥰 I've got some more reading to do!!😊 Much love always to you and yours!! God bless!! ✨🙏😇✌️💖🕯️✨
I'm sorry, and this is only a form of expression - but what about Judaism? It is the first big monotheistic religion ever to exist, the most ancient one. As the biggest persecuted religion ever, and the actual religion the Bible honestly talks about (as the people from the Bible were jews), it is unjust not to include it in this video. There are three big monotheistic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Not only Christianity and Islam.
There are also over 1 billion Hindus and over 500 million Buddhists according to google - I hope you can see that I can’t make an engaging and direct video which does everything for everyone. Wishing you well 🌲
@@jordanthornton I understand, but still Judaism is one of the three monotheistic religions, and you've created a video about merely two of the three. That's what I was saying... plus Jesus was also a Jew, and christianity bloomed from Judaism, after all. I respect and appericiate buddhism and buddhists a lot, and relate to some of their ideas, and the hindus too of course, but the budhism and the hindus are not a monotheistic religion, and the monotheism was part of my point... and after all of that, wishing you well as well 💮
As a present atheist,, I can admit here that religion was one of the main causes of my past trauma... How would you like to be beaten and while that happens, your tormenter quotes the Bible and tells you why they do it, with that quote?! That happened. So.... No to the bible or the Coran...
Just because the devil in his delusion and misunderstanding quotes the bible to justify its evil, doesen't mean that the bible can't bring you any insights into reality, or that religion itself is wrong.
I'm sorry to hear about your experience, and can imagine some of the inner situations you're facing. I hope that we can seperate evil actions from religious ideas and the true spirit of God. Wishing you the best.
@@jordanthornton religious ideas I had, and defended them, as a former theologian. I'm not that anymore and with good reason. I do think those books are immoral.
"Did I not say that ye are gods?" At one level, the core teaching of all religions and spiritual traditions is that we are spiritual beings; sons and daughters of G-d. Jesus is a symbol of the Higher Self...so is Buddha and so is Mohamed. The problem is that we don't know our True Nature. However, before True Nature (Soul) can be felt and experienced in a tangible way that is unmistakable (one will feel bliss and light infuse one's being), the person must achieve considerable purgation and shadow integration, which takes decades. To your point, this is best facilitated with humble reverence and by cultivating an intimate relationship to the Supreme Being. Yet, the Supreme is so high and we are so low. This is where the intermediary (i.e. Christ, the Self) comes in and bridges that gap. It bothers me also when I see people claiming to be G-d itself. That is hubris and delusion. Yet, we are indeed sparks of the Divine. In the beginning we are carrying so much unconscious shame, guilt, fear, and alienation from Self and the Divine that our self esteem is not up to the task and we must first work on that. Peace.
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*1-1 Mentorship Information: Price & Structure (Maximum Capacity = 20 Clients Per Year)*
It's an absolute pleasure to film these CZcams videos, and I feel fortunate to receive an abundance of meaningful messages every week, but I am unfortunately faced with the disappointing reality of turning away the vast majority of people who want to work together.
I have significantly limited availability and can only support twenty people per year because I do not offer one-off calls or drop-in consulting sessions.
Twenty individuals might not sound like maximum capacity, but the last few years of teaching have taught me the importance of maintaining tight energetic boundaries if I want to keep uploading these free videos in addition to serving my current clients to the best of my ability in 2024.
To minimise confusion and enhance transparency, I've spent several hours writing this ridiculously long comment to help you decide if my Inner Work Mentorship is the right choice for your development & what you could reasonably expect from working closely together.
Please take the time to read this service description before contacting me on Instagram… or feel free to stop reading right now if you’re not interested in my fees, session structure, client expectations, etc.
...
*READ BEFORE SCROLLING FURTHER:*
I'm interested in long-term change and structural transformation, which is why I've never offered one-off sessions.
Complex issues cannot be resolved in a few hours, but we likewise need to define an upper limit for containment and collaboration.
I've learned that deep and enduring self-integration requires at least four months of immersive effort. Why four months? It's enough weekly contact for us to work through multiple complex issues and developmental possibilities, but short enough to mitigate against unconscious co-dependency and motivational stagnation.
I'm currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month - message me after reading the following section to check my availability.
...
*HOW I WORK & WHO I WORK WITH*
Unlike other coaches and teachers who take an understandably more relaxed approach to healing and integration, my mentorships are characteristically intense.
This is a highly-demanding, high-investment process which requires our consistent combined effort over a period of four months.
If we were to start working together, I would reasonably expect you to be excited to show up for a minimum of 10+ hours of self-motivated transformative practice per week (daily reading, fitness routine, creative exercises, spiritual reflection, etc.) while also maintaining full-sobriety (no drink, no drugs, no cigarettes, no vapes).
These strict standards of discipline and sobriety are plainly unsuitable for most people in most situations - even genuinely motivated individuals who resonate with my CZcams videos may not be the right match for four months of structured mentorship.
If you want to get deeper, I've noticed that there's a certain type of ‘temperament' & 'timing’ to get the most out of me.
I'm interested in alert, creative and purpose-driven individuals who aspire to exceptional standards of self-maturation and would enjoy the feeling of going through week-on-week of progressively stacked transformative experiences for a third of a year: my ideal client is somebody who is willing to bring forward their internal complexity with a sense of courage and transparency with the intention of nothing less than full-spectrum transformation & rapid acceleration on their personal path.
I am yet to discover another supportive figure who offers something comparable to this mentorship: a four-month, structured yet flexible 1-1 container which is simultaneously therapeutic, academic and action-oriented; with primary focus placed on tangible improvements in your felt sense of self-knowledge and self-integration; in addition to making consistent and meaningful progress towards your unique goals and mentorship aspirations.
I prioritise contact, compassion and accountability, which means that your work never really 'ends' at the end of your session. You can reasonably expect to be fed dozens of customised reading suggestions and follow-on perspectives outside of the formal sessions via friendly and informal messenger contact, where I am active and available four days per week to cultivate an intimate personal connection while likewise enhancing your positive momentum via accountability check-ins and additional support as required.
By way of conclusion for what feels like an extraordinarily long comment and service description, I feel compelled to once more emphasise that working directly with me is unrealistic for most people in most situations.
I often support people who are accustomed to wrestling with the emotional challenges associated with working through complex wounds in previous therapeutic relationships before we begin our coaching work together. Even individuals without 'hard trauma' can expect moments of pressurised darkness and heaviness during periods of shadow contact as you begin to restructure your personal unconscious. We will be exploring your psyche and soma at scale and depth, and it will be your responsibility to keep me informed about the emotional texture of your internal reality, especially if you encounter negatively charged experiences, and I will of course do everything in my power to support you through the hard times as we integrate the darkness and move forwards together.
CZcams is a wonderful place for me to share free research resources and offer accessible inner work invitations; my private mentorships, however, are the place for collaborative partnership and emotional security as we identify, navigate and restructure oftentimes confronting and challenging conscious and unconscious physical, emotional and mental material.
Ultimately, this is a highly-demanding but highly-rewarding process which requires the best of our shared intentions.
...
*SESSION STRUCTURE & FEES:*
The total fee for an Inner Work Mentorship (including 12 x 2 hr sessions) is £7,400 GBP or approximately $9,400 USD. This is my only coaching programme, and my mentorship pricing is liable to adjustment over time.
Each private session lasts two hours, and is facilitated via Telegram video call at an ideal time for both of us. Your mentorship extends over a linear four-month period, with a total of twenty-four hours of structured session time, in addition to four days per week of unlimited messenger availability for accountability updates, voice note exchanges and informal calls upon occasion. I do not work on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays, but I am fully-available across all timezones for regular calls and messenger contact on Thursday - Sunday.
If you’ve scrolled this far, and resonate with what I’m offering, I invite you to message me on Instagram. It would be my pleasure to start exploring your goals and intentions in real-time.
IMPORTANT: I am an intentionally independent coach, and not a licensed therapist or associated with any professional bodies or coaching institutions, and therefore enjoy the freedom to collaborate with my clients across all areas of life in an intimate, direct and highly involved coaching style. I work with no more than twenty people per year, and am currently accepting a maximum of two new clients per month. I also manage my own inbox and do not use automated systems or employ people to pretend to be me on Instagram, which means that it usually takes four to six weeks for me to respond to new messages and begin the interview process. Although my approach takes time, I hope you ultimately appreciate my personal emphasis on authentic and confidential communication from the very beginning of our relationship. I once again encourage you to message me immediately if you want to start working together within the next two months - bump yourself to the top of my inbox, and I’ll send you some voice notes to get our conversation started.
In Japan, they say "itadakimasu" before eating meals, which translates to receiving, getting, accepting something or humbly taking. They refer to three things when saying that:
1. They thank the animal that's being eaten.
2. They thank everyone who was involved in bringing the food to their table.
3. They thank god and/or nature.
The vast majority of Japanese say "itadakimasu" regardless of how religious they are. It's basic table manners.
Being thankful for the food that sustains us is such a good practice!
This is beautiful, well explained and I appreciate you sharing! 🌲
They also say "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" which I like.
So powerfull, thank you.
"Who's searching will find" they say, and I'm really greatful that I've found your channel. Thank you for sharing the truth and wisdom. 🤍✨ And I wish the healing to everybody who's watching this.
Welcome, and thank you for being here to do this work together 🌲
Thank you Jordan, enigmatic. It's the semantics that slay me! The word "g o d" instantly fires up my hostility. And it's not God's fault. Organized religion: the atrocities committed by organized religions categorically disqualify them. But i noticed something odd, if i substitute the Italian words...no hostility is aroused. A quiet image, light filtering through stained glass, tiny flickering candles, consoling. My immigrant parents rejected the church, and never said a single word re belief. I suspect they were atheist, both in the sciences. They were still in the old country when Hitler's army marched across Europe, a faith/belief killer if there ever was one. I grew up atheist, though a number of uncanny experiences in my 20s caused me to question the atheism. I'm ok w/being in doubt. God is Love, we're here to love eachother
Yes, that word can be hard for some. It’s why we see so many referring to ‘the universe’ when really they’re just talking about God. Reclaiming the word can be powerful.
Thank you Jordan. I read Facing the Dragon, after you recommended it and I would highly recommend it also to the questioner. I would say it made me understand what is Satan (Alshaitan) in Quraan as a muslim born myself. Understanding this had broaden my understanding of humanity and mostly of God in an internal kinda of way. Not easy to describe with words. The book is a must read. I agree with you in the unity of spiritual texts, sincerely I see importance in all of them. Love your authenticity Jordan. Thank you so much for your efforts. The books you recommend are jewels. Much love and appreciation 💙
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Speaking from the Christian background - this is an incredibly complex subject to tackle! Thank you for speaking with grace on a topic where many people are divided. Finding the universal principles on something as deeply personal as our relationship with God is a real challenge. We'll done 👏 Looking forward to more videos on these spiritual topics!
Had to certainly side-step some landmines in my preperation for this one... amazing how difficult it is to say anything at all in under 20 minutes on the topic hahah
My experiences have been that any religion that says they’re the only truth through strict adherence and blind faith is not your path and you should be very skeptical. Everyone has a unique path to walk alone and no one else’s with get you there 100% of the way based on your unique life experiences… I think you should take what you can from all teachings that resonates with you.
Classic approach for self healing, always worth exploring and finding what we can learn 🌲
Thank you, Jordan! I love your videos and this one moved me to tears, when you talked about your own relationship with God- I resonate so much 🙏
Beautiful, thats powerful too. Thanks for being here and God bless.
Thank you Jordan for acknowledging the Quran’s dominating emphasis on community and charity 🙏🏽
In times such these, Islam is demonized and Muslims are scapegoated.
It lightens my heart to see a western intellectual understanding the spiritual significance of holy scriptures done in this video ❤
It really all boils down to humility, service and unity with others.
Thank you for the book recommendations
Although I haven't studied Islam in depth, it does feel important to honour the importance of Muslim faith and likewise find what we can learn across cultures - thank you for your comment, wishing you the best.
i find that when it comes to God the key concept is how we communicate with God directly. It's depth of faith in prayer and meditation and the openness to the heartiness of the Relationship that develops spiritual understanding. Proper spiritual books can guide this very path.
Lived relationship to God is the idea! Absolutely. Thanks for taking the time to share here brother 🌲
Jordan this is good. It is about respect for all because ultimately every religion promotes an attitude of humility. Every world religion recognizes the reality of human brokenness - that we all grow up in a world of conditional love, where we experience shame, rejection, neglect and abuse. To compensate, our humanity recoils in fear and develops our complicated defenses. Trauma is the great leveler. Childhood trauma is the original sin and anyone attempting to heal is honorable and respectable regardless of dogma.
Beautifully said. It really is a process of an always developing relationship with God. I like especially the point of having reverence with it all. Ty🙏
Relationship and reverence, exactly.
Thank you!
Appreciate you watching these videos - happy to help!
you're right about the need to get offline to clear your head. But for the algorithm, I'll add this before I log out: for me, my biggest issue with God/the universe is being willing to trust that higher power again after seeing a loved one die in a very unjust way. However, I will admit that there are aspects of Christianity that I do respect and haven't really relinquished, like waiting until marriage to sleep with someone. Also, there have been arguments made for how prayer and spellcasting are one and the same.
As far as the afterlife goes, I don't really know anymore where I'll end up when I die, and I guess that's the worst of it. Not just figuring out what you want your life to be but also being clueless about what will happen to you once you die.
(I know that's morbid) Maybe you've thought about this a little more, Jordan, I don't know, but for me, I grew up thinking I would finally realize God at my death. Now I don't know.
I’m not personally sure about god realisation or afterlife experiences either… likewise working that out with you. Thank you for sharing some of your story.
I was having breakfast, listening to your video 😄, and it came to me that this is what my whole life has always been about. A dynamic, lived relationship with and to the divine. Haven't thought about it this expressly for a long time, it is so embedded into my life that by now it just feels "normal" :)
Something we often don’t think about - how wonderful for this to be normal!
All that is and all that is not. But saying it isn't as helpful as your own direct experience and relationship with god indeed. You cannot be told the truth and understand it fully. You can only experience it.
I feel personally attacked by that final remark 😂 I haven't meditated yet today and i just got called out
Assertion without attacking hopefully hahahah - happy meditating!
Thank you. The need to label something that can't be fully defined in hopes of making sense of something from a mental construct that isn't tangible in the state of longing or grasping, but is tangible in the sense of recognizing it in the beauty of God's handywork ever present in daily life, often in the mundane, not the profane, in the simpleness, not the grandiosity...for me it was in surrender and reflection that I found that connection, which indeed is a humbling way. When I fell into the new age and started being exposed to the i am god narrative it never resonated with me and my body rejected this sentiment and thus listening to my own inner knowing began to propel me out of that belief system and into more contemplation. The biggest challenge I find is maintaining my compassion and grace for those that rebuke and shame me and others for not holding their belief or giving into their projected fears. I failed miserably at this and got very angry in 2020, which was a gift and little by little I've moved out of that and back into my heart. I tried to "expose" things going on in the world to family only once and in the most thoughtful way I knew how and was cast out...the black sheep they finally had an excuse to call crazy. It's taken me these past 3 years a lot of work to realize I can't save anyone, I can love from afar if my very existence is too confronting to their beliefs, I can look at my part in not communicating effectively, with grace, and zoom out in order to come into those type of situations with more emotional maturity and calmness. This topic is important and your delivery lends credence to the importance of personal connection over the ever present fad of virtue signaling perceived godliness. You may have another video already, but for me this connection to God and the "awakening" experience brings grief and sorrow, which I found very comforting. We live in a world that wants to squash down pain, repress tears and has completely lost the art of wailing. There is so much beauty in this part of the process, yet seemingly taboo and unwanted....tears cleanse and heal, wailing is prayer, are there books you recommend on this topic?
If you're looking for grief, tears and pain... there aren't many books I could recommend. It's about feeling it firsthand and moving through your own embodied experiences. I'm wishing you the aboslute best.
@@jordanthornton I agree and thank you for the reply. I've read some of Martin Prechtel's work where he talks about grief as a form of praise, which helped me recognize what I was experiencing was sort of an "accessing" of the primordial well. That's the only book I've found thus far that explores grief in this way.
@@theangelamorris You'll enjoy Primal Wound by John Firman and Ann Gila if you want a solid follow on, nonetheless.
@@jordanthornton Thank you.
I find it helpful to use my family's religion as a mooring point, with which to calibrate my perspective. I did and do move away from that point. I return often though, as I feel that much of my inner scaffolding bears the mark of my childhood, my family, my culture.
Great perspective, grounding awareness of tradition with an honouring of your personal direction.
Good day to you, brother...
Morning 🌲
If you are going through the Qur'an
Then go also through the Hadith
Because To understand the Qur'an's Guidance you have to understand Hadith
Hadith contains the life example of the person who lived based on the Quranic Guidance
And if you want to study the thing related to heart and mind means it's abstract concept
Then go Through Imam Ghazali books
Atleast half of the videos uploaded on this channel since ive discovered it feel like synchronicites. Im currently filled with faith, but faith for what exactly is the question ive been asking myself.
50% synchronicity rate is good enough for me hahah
Thank you for this video! I wonder what your thoughts are on the link between mental health and religious beliefs. Do you think that religious or spiritual beliefs can cause one to have an external locus of control and suffer from a lack of inner strength (because one relies on God)? How can you balance your spiritual beliefs so that you can have a healthy mindset and lifestyle? Thank you lots, greetings from Sweden :D
An excellently worded question and full of exploration - I've screenshotted this and will answer with a full video as soon as I possibly can. Thank you, Sophia.
That is a good question!
Thank you! This is a video I feel I need to share.
Hope that it finds you and your friends well 🌲
“Our death is our wedding with eternity
What is the secret? "God is One."
The sunlight splits when entering the windows of the house.
This multiplicity exists in the cluster of grapes;
It is not in the juice made from the grapes.
For he who is living in the Light of God,
The death of the carnal soul is a blessing.
Regarding him, say neither bad nor good,
For he is gone beyond the good and the bad.
Fix your eyes on God and do not talk about what is invisible,
So that he may place another look in your eyes.
It is in the vision of the physical eyes
That no invisible or secret thing exists.
But when the eye is turned toward the Light of God
What thing could remain hidden under such a Light?
Although all lights emanate from the Divine Light
Don't call all these lights "the Light of God";
It is the eternal light which is the Light of God,
The ephemeral light is an attribute of the body and the flesh.
...Oh God who gives the grace of vision!
The bird of vision is flying towards You with the wings of desire.”
― Rumi
I wonder about Jordan's reaction to "Answer to Job" by Carl Jung. Jung was clear that his work was a psychological take upon the divine characteristic(s) as documented in the Bible.
I read it on the train about a year ago and didn’t particularly resonate with it - not an important book for me personally, but hey not every book will be 😂
Thank you for sharing these works and for ALL of your videos and invites on God and healing🤗🥰
I've got some more reading to do!!😊
Much love always to you and yours!!
God bless!!
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Wishing you well, and God bless!
Good one Jordan. Thanks 🫶🏻☺️
Glad you enjoyed this one 🌲
Excellent.
Thanks, Yinglan!
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Thank you! Cheers!
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I'm sorry, and this is only a form of expression - but what about Judaism? It is the first big monotheistic religion ever to exist, the most ancient one. As the biggest persecuted religion ever, and the actual religion the Bible honestly talks about (as the people from the Bible were jews), it is unjust not to include it in this video. There are three big monotheistic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Not only Christianity and Islam.
There are also over 1 billion Hindus and over 500 million Buddhists according to google - I hope you can see that I can’t make an engaging and direct video which does everything for everyone. Wishing you well 🌲
@@jordanthornton I understand, but still Judaism is one of the three monotheistic religions, and you've created a video about merely two of the three. That's what I was saying... plus Jesus was also a Jew, and christianity bloomed from Judaism, after all. I respect and appericiate buddhism and buddhists a lot, and relate to some of their ideas, and the hindus too of course, but the budhism and the hindus are not a monotheistic religion, and the monotheism was part of my point... and after all of that, wishing you well as well 💮
There’s something comical about you rebelling against atheism to become a monotheist when you so often hear the opposite 😂
The irony isn’t lost on me hahaha
well I was a Muslim and I don't think that you will find the God you dream of in Quran!
Maybe worth watching the rest of the video too, appreciate you sharing and wishing you the best.
As a present atheist,, I can admit here that religion was one of the main causes of my past trauma...
How would you like to be beaten and while that happens, your tormenter quotes the Bible and tells you why they do it, with that quote?! That happened. So.... No to the bible or the Coran...
Just because the devil in his delusion and misunderstanding quotes the bible to justify its evil, doesen't mean that the bible can't bring you any insights into reality, or that religion itself is wrong.
I'm sorry to hear about your experience, and can imagine some of the inner situations you're facing. I hope that we can seperate evil actions from religious ideas and the true spirit of God. Wishing you the best.
@@jordanthornton religious ideas I had, and defended them, as a former theologian. I'm not that anymore and with good reason. I do think those books are immoral.
"Did I not say that ye are gods?" At one level, the core teaching of all religions and spiritual traditions is that we are spiritual beings; sons and daughters of G-d. Jesus is a symbol of the Higher Self...so is Buddha and so is Mohamed. The problem is that we don't know our True Nature. However, before True Nature (Soul) can be felt and experienced in a tangible way that is unmistakable (one will feel bliss and light infuse one's being), the person must achieve considerable purgation and shadow integration, which takes decades. To your point, this is best facilitated with humble reverence and by cultivating an intimate relationship to the Supreme Being. Yet, the Supreme is so high and we are so low. This is where the intermediary (i.e. Christ, the Self) comes in and bridges that gap. It bothers me also when I see people claiming to be G-d itself. That is hubris and delusion. Yet, we are indeed sparks of the Divine. In the beginning we are carrying so much unconscious shame, guilt, fear, and alienation from Self and the Divine that our self esteem is not up to the task and we must first work on that. Peace.
Always appreciate your thoughtful reflections in the comments section, thank you.