Phyrexian Family Tree EXPLAINED! (Yes It's GROSS) | Phyrexia: All Will Be One Lore
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In the newest lore of New Phyrexia, we find out that a terrible family tree is starting to grow among the Phyrexians. The spawns of Elesh Norn are rising and gaining power! In this video we will describe (in detail) this lineage and how new Phyrexians are made (yes it's gross). From Yawgmoth to Atraxa. This the MOST DISTURBING family in Magic: The Gathering.
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Man the upload time on this was WAY off. Mixed up AM and PM. Either way, hope you enjoy, like, and share!
Very much enjoyed, this was a fantastic story. Thank you!
This is just a suggestion, but could you start exploring what if scenarios with Magic The Gathering's lore. (Example: What if Karn stayed father of machines) I bet you could use this to fix War of the Spark.
LOL you’re silly 😜
Speculation for you.
OKO and Ashiok are from the same plane which is Shakespearean based as the both can fall into A Midsummer's Night dream. Which I feel they will be the villain focus of the new saga since we are going back to Eldraine
I thought you going to tell us something new, but it's open end story same as what I read on wiki. Regardless what Ixhel feels, she did jack crap nothing anyway.
Moral of the Story: If you make a Phyrexian, give it just enough individuality to be more effective. If its too much, throw it into the reprocesor and start again.
Lesson learned 😂
Agreed, I personally prefer to vivisect them and find the source of their individuality
Regardless how Ixhel feels, she did jack crap nothing anyway. Not like she join Urabrask lol...lame ending.
@@jazybomber mm very gitaxian of you.
"The greatest of grandfathers, yawgmoth" sounds like a card for march of the machines with an elder artificer typing
A few more branches on the tree:
-Karn was born not just of oil, but also by his heartstone, coming from Xantcha, who also ultimately stems from Yawgmoth.
-Karn was built by Urza and Barrin. He effectively had two fathers with an egg(heart) donor.
-Barrin had a daughter with Rayne. Said daughter, Hanna, was effectively Karn's half-sister.
-Urza's Bloodline Project may have steered Rayne to Barrin, and even shaped her own lineage; it was never fully confirmed tho it was suspected. Just something to consider.
-While Harbin may not have been Urza's son (still up in the air), he was still of Urza's heritage given he'd at least be Mishra's son. Harbin is either Karn's half-brother or cousin. By extension, Jarsyl is in the mix, and more pertinently to the present moment, Jodah.
...at this point, I'm not sure which has ultimately inflicted the more complicated family history upon themselves involving robots and genocidal maniacs, Urza, or Marvel's Hank Pym.
Great added detail here. Thank you
probably Urza, Hank Pym is "just a human" so his lifespan is about 80-ish years.
In short, it's still a continuation of two brothers fcked up the entire multiverse. Well done, Urza & Mishra.
@@jancukasu arguably Urza & Mishra were pawns of Yawgmoth from the start. The Power Stones left were sure to tempt someone if not those brothers the work would have been done by someone else.
@victorvaldez8869 there's always someone else.
You can also tell that alot of these new gen phyrexians are more emotional and humanlike by how theyve lost there artifact creature typing
Most Phyrexians were never artifact creatures. Go back and look at the old Phyrexian cards from before Scars of Mirrodin block, and you’ll find that only a small fraction of them are artifacts.
Yesss. It seems the more you make the more free will they tend to have
@@AetherHub no
Yawgmoth was way more powerful than the modern phyrexians. He could pummel planeswalkers back when they were essentially gods!! So, it makes sense they would be less easily controlled by modern phyrexians.
I have this feeling that this big ass Phyrexian insect that spawns little minions and is too scary to confront alone will survive the dross pits easily
Small correction: Karn’s Glistening Oil actually came from Xantcha’s heartstone, which was used to make him in the first place.
I'm calling it now, Ixhel will meet Urabrask and gain red in her color identity. She'll rebel against the machine orthodoxy and gain her own planeswalker spark.
That would be cool. A red aligned phyrexian angel finally
I wonder what will be full card name of that Ixhel.
A phyrexian angel planeswalker...
Imagine that randomly showing up on your plane. When Jace planeswalks, that's no big deal. He was a pretty low key dude.
But if Ixhel just appears out of nowhere, I'd shit myself.
Yessss I for one would love to get a new four colored commander so I'm all for this
It should be red / black / green and white praetor angel Planeswalker.
And with this lore, Ixhel may be my first favorite phyrexian after Urabrask.
I can't help but consistently wonder, what would Yawgmoth think of New Phyrexia
Probably not much at all.
Yawgmoth never actually cared all that much about the religion side of things, he had a god complex but the godhood was mostly so his motives and scientific advancements were able to be progresses that much more efficiently. Yawgmoth was always a man of Science first, which is why he probably would have favored Sheoldred and Jin the most. Though in all likelihood Yawgmoth would have simply......Killed them all to start a new with his image. Because he's just that guy.
Look at Yawgmoth's entire history and its really obvious: he would see the value in taking new phyrexia as his own, as it really is his. Elesh Norn would bend the knee fully and serve, or get to hang out with other failures like Mishra or Gix in the rebuilt torture sphere. Yawgy would gain utter control of everything Phyrexian, one way or another, if he was around... or brought back.
Funny thing about writing ultimate villains: you tend to miss them after they are gone. Phyrexia came back decades later. Bolas came back decades later. What's WotC's recent history been a lot? Bringing back old ideas that they can't top today. This is me calling it: March of the Machines might bring back Yawgmoth. Perhaps in a sort of Phyrexian civil war. One I don't see him losing, either. Unless someone made some very powerful non-Phyrexian friends. Teferi, Elspeth, Tezzeret are all variables in this.
"what the fuck is this weak-ass white mana doing in here? Not in my 9 spheres"
@@davemcduringo4377 I am not sure how they would bring yawgy back considering they are adamant about him being dead. Most villains in mtg are not dead. Eldrazi are sleeping, Bolas is in therapy session plane with Ugin. Only way Yawging Moth might be brought back is true some temporal bullshit that Teferi is currently cooking stuck at Zhalfir or possibly true devotion creating him as god on Theros. Also civil war among phyrexians is unlikely considering Norn just utterly demolished both Urabrask and Sheoldred in the all will be one rebellion they tried. If anything compleated planeswalkers kept their soul (because to compleat planeswalkers and keep their spark you have to leave the soul in) so there is possibility of corrupted planeswalkers taking over praetors as leaders of new new phyrexia.
Pretty sure Vish will be fine on his own especially when he still seems to have the memories and cunning of Geth
And shockingly the voice of Geth lol
@@AetherHub Hopefully he doesn't Geth wrecked.
Ixhel is most likely prone to personal choice due to the lack of blue mana influencing her. Blue is often associated with control. She’s obviously still obedient to the mom and grandma, but she’s more likely to do things of her own volition. She’s doing things to impress them, but she has a creative fluidity they lack. Where she saw her spawn as a “gift I put thought into to impress my mom”- Atraxa (and likely Elesh) can only see and focus on the fact it was made from an individualistic thought process. The creativity without prompting is disturbing to them.
Heck if Urabrask had participated Atraxa probably would’ve ended up hard to control. Potentially more wild and aggressive. I think the mana that prompts the creativity/free will of this family tree is the green mana. Green is associated with strength AND creation. While the colors that align with full phyrexian loyalty are black and white- the color combos of the two most important figures in Phyrexian genealogy, Yawgmoth and Elesh.
I'm really glad you touched on the concept of oil lineage since that's a really cool part of Phyrexian lore I wish they elaborated upon more! More thoughts:
-Oil transmits memory, not just heredity
-It's possible that the oil Karn dropped came from Xantcha's heartstone, making her the last common ancestor of the New Phyrexians
-Jin-Gitaxias is also a known Phyrexian parent
-Germs and newts are created from repurposed flesh too, and grow into core-born Phyrexians
I'm glad they're finally showing the diversity of Phyrexians as people, too. Ixhel's story I especially loved as an example of a Phyrexian being a person and an exploration of the generational trauma that Norn's tyranny and Atraxa's forced compleation imposes further down the line.
I never knew that Atraxa didn't have red in her CC because Urabrask refused to participate in her creation. I wish WotC would put more effort into getting the lore of sets out there.
It was implied in the previous Phyrexian set in 2012 when we found out that Urabrask recused himself from lots of Phyrexian activities that the other praetors engaged in.
@@darylli7790 - "it was implied." Thus my statement I WISH WOTC WOULD PUT MORE EFFORT INTO GETTING THE LORE OF SETS OUT THERE.
@@DerekScottBland Chill, dude. I'm not shooting you down or anything.
@@darylli7790 - sorry, I've had a long run of assholes basically repeating what I've said and pretending like they're disproving my statement somehow
@@DerekScottBland I know what you mean, buddy. Hang in there.
I would LOVE a twist of a resurgence of Yawgmoth, who had “horcruxed” their consciousness into the oil of the legacy weapon. Imagine a Karnmoth that can escape using a spark!
But then again, I like the idea of perished characters that have a legitimate legacy that evolves to become its own thing too.
Phyrexia without yawg is shitty imo. I like norn but its obviously kinda boring. I suspect they wont because they want to be *original* and recently became super woke. So most likely people wont receive the payoff they want in yawg making a return. Since he was a male cleric lmao. You can know this because norn is a female cleric. Or in the utmost scenario yawg takes over norn becoming female by proxy. Yea this sucks ass and i cant believe im writing this with actual probability but thats the generation we live in now.
@@FuckoffgoogleGetDoxxed k
My fear for the future of the Phyrexia story is that time travel will simply reset all event an dbring back our beloved planes walkers. My Hope is that this growing individualism amongst the phyrexians is a new contagious nature that begins spreading beyond just the red aligned and we end up with a phyrexian civil war. I can imagine that the completion of the palneswalkers isn't as perfect as they think and all of them will rebel with the possible exception of Ajani just to give us an emotional gut punch. My bigger wonder is if now is the true time for Emrakul to make herself known and what an eldrazi corrupted phyrexian would end up like. 😰
As for time travel. I hope the writers and lore designers understand that lack of consequences is what’s hurting the story.
Phydrazi or eldrexians ftw. Imagine phyrexians vs eldrazi 😍
I personaly rly hope for the eldrazi to come back. The civil war sounds nice to.
I can't help but feel like phyrexians/oil wouldn't be able to have influence over eldrazi. Sure they have tamiyo and could maybe release emrakul from the moon over at instead just to reek havoc ( emrakul supposedly let herself be imprisoned tho if I recall so who knows what's up with that.) But the eldrazi are essentially all part of one being who's size can't really be fathomed tht exists in the blind eternities between planes the oil corrupting an eldrazi seems like too little of a dosage no matter how you look at it for something tht large and say it only effected the physical body of a eldrazi piece that's on a plane I feel like it the eldrazi would sever that connection off , who knows tho.
Personally I'm just hoping the current praetors - Urabrask get killed off (as much as I like them ) and atraxa ends up being the new head honcho of the main bulk of phyrexians whilst Urabrask has his own side gig of em.
Something big is definitely gonna happen. Wizards won't let their child Jace remain phyrexian for to long.
I'm starting to think that Sheoldred is starting to "wake up" a little, much like Urabrask, though she may just be done with Norn's first among equals shtick.
Hoping Ixhel goes good guy and teams up with grandad Karn
It’s weird how Ixhel tends to be emotional and coming to terms with free will but yet she’s not red aligned
@@thebuthcer123 Give her time, she hasn't met up with Urabrask yet.
That would be really cool. But remember. Her independent thought was fleeting. It was just a flicker really. Maybe she’ll squash it.
Na I hope all descent is quashed, phyrexia ftw
@@gankgoat8334 yup
Teferi: So what does that make us?
Elish Norn: Absolutely nothing! Which you'll soon be.
so the oil is the jizz, and mirrodin is the egg, and yawgmoth was the one jizzing into the multiverse. just goes to show what happens if you dont wear protection!
Most underrated comment 🤣
So that's why Atraxa is called the greater unifier. I always thought she was the boss due to all the mana colors and wondered why Elesh Norn and other praetors were more mention than her.
NGL, I think leaning on this would be a super cool way to save our Completed Planeswalkers. All of them are already rebellious in nature- given the whole walking-between-worlds thing, and I think it would be neat and also fit the themes of the Phyrexia story to have them turn on Elesh Norn and seek out their individuality again.
Agreed! But what happens after. Do they lead the rebellious phyrexians ?
Since the Great Furnace is seen *behind* Nahiri on her new planeswalker card we can assume that she is not fighting for the Orthodoxy which would make her aligned with Urabrask, i do think that she may still be a « good one » despite being compleated
@@lordtrollage2819 True. We DO see her bowing to Norn in the trailer for the set though. I just want them all to be okay, honestly. And I just want them to not pull a Marvel and do some time-travel fuckery.
@@lordtrollage2819 tbh my idea is this
Due to being a red phyrexian,my idea is that nahiri, likely with urabrask helping in some capacity due to his nature would strengthen her red mana enough that she would have a decent amount of her personality. Granted she's probably not gonna be the same and probably might want to rip everything a collective new asshole but thats beside the point. Honestly it would be a interesting plot point where nahiri might be a sort of sacrificial hero or something in that line, possibly helping chandra and wrenn to burn down or weaken the realm breaker
I am pretty sure the root of Karn's relation to the oil is actually from the phyrexian Heartstone that powered him before he became a planeswalker.
That was exactly something I was looking for, thanks :D
This would make an awesome themed commander deck!
What a happy family 😃 Awesome video!
Thank you really appreciate it 🙏
Love your content keep doing what your doing
Always will. Thank you
I hope Ixhel gets red mana at some point. It would make sense considering she aligns compleately with the ideology of the Great Work. It would also make her a 4 color angel, just like Aatroxa.
maaan if Ixhel ultimately turned away from the machine orthodoxy and just became her own free-thinking character, that would be seriously wild \o/
It would be cool to see more rebelling phyrexians join Urabrask
@@AetherHub yesssss!
Real nice, always cool to know more lore 'bout my latest commander :3
Dope, thanks for this breakdown. It can get kinda confusing over time
I would really like to see a detailed physiology and biological breakdown of some phyrexians, like what makes the metal "Living metal" do they breathe, how do they survive, do they need to eat and drink. what gives them still sentience, is the brain still organic, like an exoskeleton around a normal organic brain with corrupted thinking? What can or cannot be corrupted/compleated, could dragons, and elder dragons or eldrazi be compleated, are phyrexians susceptible to the warping and similar infection eldrazi cause?
hell yeah i wanna see some phyrexussy
I'm hoping Ixhel gets a spark. having her mother and grandmother try and hunt her down, pushing her further to maybe become one of the anti-hero/team gatewatch characters for the future. we lost so many great plains walkers already, it would be cool to see us get one back like this.
Phyrexians dont got souls though, so the only way ixhel will get one is if she takes one forcefully, maybe?
@@IsThisHacked Well the only ones with souls intact are previously Plainswalkers turn Phyrexians as they kept their sparks and minds/personality as usually if they get converted to a hivemind they lose their spark. And since Ixhel had some individuality as it grows the chance it will get a spark grows as well as after all Karn got a spark and he was a artifact that gained sentience as in gained a soul never mind the fact that a plainswalker can give someone their spark but at the cost of their own life unless they were a artificial plainswalker like Karn who can just get rid of his spark, thus making him prone to getting corrupted by the oil in his heartstone in the first place giving rise to New Phyrexia
Maybe she’ll serve Karn!
There's a "battle" card, "Orthodoxy, Broken by Family"
Angels can't get spark. Their souls aren't the right way to have a spark(although they are bound to be loopholes)
So maybe there is actually hope that the defeat of New Phyrexia will come from within? Perhaps someone like Ixhel will destroy Elesh Norn or Atraxa out of anger that she can't be free. Also personally, I absolutely LOVE the Avens of Otaria and nothing would make me happier than if someone the good guys found a way to revive Kangee or some others of his Order in order to glean their knowledge of how they defeated the Phyrexian invasion before they could even land their ships. I mean Kangee's text is so damn cool in reference to the first Phyrexian invasion "Let their horrors and machines come. We will meet them blow for blow." SKY DADDY begs for a resurrection, CAW CAW
the 'music for manatees' track just primes my brain for learning, I hear it and a whole new part of my brain just opens up ready to absorb knowledge
This story really intrigue me, but in a different way. In streets of new cappenna story they mentioned angels and a delimited city protected against a phyrexian invasion. Seems interesting.
With new *spoilers* for march of the machines we know that Norn sent Atraxa to deal with new cappenna and Halo so I wonder what happens.
Poor Ixhel, I can just imagen her watching the skuttling Vishgraz crawl into the swamps to it's last days of life and her having that moment of despair, like a mother seeing her child for the last time.
Congrats on 100k brother. I've been around since the 15k days and I'm proud to be able to watch this channel grow so
Appreciate that longgggg support man. Thank you.
Elesh Norn is absolutely 100% Mommy Dommy.
nice
Very cool, Seiben, thanks!
You’re welcome friend :)
I think urza should have had a mention on there. If anything, as a creator of a failed branch in the tree. Sure he created karn with phyrexian parts. Durning the invasion of dominaria, one of yagmoths generals disected a metathran general and stated it closely resembled a phyrexian in many ways. She then wondered if the invadion had not happened, how long it would have taken urza to transform the plane into something that mirrored phirexia. Imagine our surprise when that is exactly what happened to karns created world.
There's something about Red Mana being missing in phyrexia
Phyrexia is way too lawful evil for anything that red brings to the table, whether that’s selfishness or passion for freedom. It’s all chaos. Too unpredictable for the Great Work.
Red has always stood for freedom and free will. Look at Olivia Voldaren or Chandra. The red praetor's convictions are in direct conflict with phyrexian ideology.
Yawgmoth didn’t create the oil. It and the original world of phyrexia existed before him, the creation of some “dragon form” planeswalker. Yawgmoth only corrupted what was there.
Makes you think, after this group of phyrexians are dealt with, maybe the true grandfather of machines will make an appearance.
Love your videos ❤ they really make the lore just edible
Enjoy it. Digest it.
Karn: You're all adopted
“You’re not even my real father of machines!”
I still wonder how the Praetors were born. Like which Mirran creature/creatures birthed Norn and so on.
But the praetors ignore Memnarch right? Even though he was the one who spread the oil in Mirrodin after Karn left a trace on the plane? I recall that at first some of them viewed Karn as the successor of Yaghmoth.
Memnarch was destroyed in the Mirrodin storyline before the true rise of New Phyrexia. They knew who he was though and some still idealize Memnarch
He was killed by Koth, Ezuri and Glissa iirc
@@lordtrollage2819 Glissa and Slobad; this was certainly before Koth was born, if not Ezuri too.
@@AetherHub Considering the crap going on for nearly a decade in the not-too-distant past, they'd bloody well better be aware of him. Heck, given what traces there were of his direct influence even with the myr/levelers/vedalken pruning things, continuity hole if New Phyrexia knew more of _Karn_ when they first developed than of Memnarch.
Tangent: what IS Memnarch in this tree, to them? A depraved older brother? An intermittent generation?
Gotta love that hardcore DIY attitude!
Does Yawgmoth really get credit for the first phyrexians? Seeing as he only discovered the plan and it’s dead god. Granted he is still the father of machines .
The plane was empty, he took people there and compleated them
I have absolutely no idea about anything going on here. Don’t even know what franchise/world this is from.
But I’ll sit here and listen to lore anyway.
Was phyrexian oil already a thing on the plane when Yawgmoth was first brought to the unnamed plane that he would call phyrexia? So I would necessarily say he created it. Diphed performed an ancient spell which bound the plane to yawgmoth or something like that which made him the god of the plane which is why I think glistening oil spreads the will of yawgmoth.
Otherwise excellent video!!!
Completely get your point. I thought I said it was Yawgmoth who created the Phyresis process with the oil. Which would be more accurate!
@@AetherHub I think it's safe to say that whatever the oil was to begin with, the substance that laid inert within Karn until it both quasi-ascended with him and he lost his spark was VERY far removed from its original form.
Does anyone know about the being that yawgmoth extracted the glistening oil from? Could that come up?
Would love another Planar Chaos style set with alternate morality verions of the planeswalkers + main characters.
Good Nicol Bolas, Mishra, Phyrexians, Oko, Tibalt, Eldrazi, etc. Evil versions of the gatewatch.
So you're basically telling me that Ixhel is a sweetheart somewhere deep inside. That's actually kinda wholesome.
Ixhel's story is my favorite out of all of the Phyrexian lore. She shows that underneath all their programming that something human-like stirs when they are allowed to do things like other people in the plane would....even if her method of progenerating is a little weird to us. Vish is her child and part of her didn't want to see them simply fade from existence just for a second. It makes you wonder if Phyrexians were freed of the subservience of The One would they eventually just revert to being like us in their desires and emotions? Or would they refine it into something more twisted because they are so like other people of the plans.
You know garouk is out there fighting these phyrecians right now
need the elesh norn gif in the opening for a wallpaper
I'm still waiting for the eldrazi to come to phyrexia. I wonder how that will play out
It's kinda weird how Birthing New phyrexians the old fashion way is literally the opposite to how transformers used to give birth; in short, their god primus birthed X number of bots from his planet body they then divided like cells till a set number was reached, but in transformers generation 2 some decepticons rediscovered how to give birth and reproduced to build an army but the new borns lacked emotion or mercy. but for phyrexians they MENTALLY evolve moving past flawed ideals and develop individuality, considering aside from atraxa being born from 4/5 phyrexians pumping their mana into her... was it explained how atraxa did it or was it she found a dude with one mana color and supplyed the rest?
Atraxa could just pluck one angel out of the sky, start the phyrexis with glistening oil and funnel most of her mana into it to made it her image (they share 3 colors, somehow Atraxa didn't pass down her blue mana "bond" to Ixhel). Meanwhile, Ixhel just fused Ghet with one elf and an insect she found while on a mission to kill Geth
@@ASoulphoenix aight
@@ASoulphoenix point being the bond comes from the infusion of the host phyrexian a mana so say… atraxa infused a guy with her blue and white with a black aligned guy he would then gain those colors and become her son
a retrain of glistening oil would be an artifact named "phyrexian oil" a mana colorless artifact, with equip 0. it has "equiped creature is a phyrexian in adition to it's other types and has poison 1.
"What crossed her mind defied Orthodoxy: could there be perfection beyond compleation?"
Love the family twisted history!!
Urabrask be like nah fam I'm busy yall do you though
Elesh Norn dreams of flesh too, so I'm not that certain she'd never have a hint of motherly feelings
So urza should be on the family tree too lol. Yawgmoth and Urza are at fault for new phyrexia
Correct but I was looking for more direct influences. Though Urza can be blamed for a lot lol
If Emerkul returns
She will just corrupt the Phyrexians
let me know if im wrong, but karn is unaffected by the glistening oil not because of his planeswalker spark, but because he is not made of flesh correct? because there are multiple planeswalkers that have been compleated, so their planeswalker spark would have little to do with their resistance to the oil
what is the background music used in this video?
is the angel on victory’s herald the actual angel that became atraxa? or is that just the best approximation we have?
Where is the animated intro from?
I really feel that Ixhel will be the new "Mother of machines" or at least the new leader of white mana at the end of the phyrexian block
Simon, you’re opening a dangerous can of worms here…
Let the worms wriggle free!!!
So if you think about it elesh norn is like emperor palpatine and atraxa would be darth vader and thats another reason why they are missing the red mana because he was burned by the lava on mustafar one would say is mountains and red mana so yeah thats why they have no alignment to red. I hope theres some cool version of atraxa card either pre phyrexian or like maybe after somehow saved by some ultra purifying power.
As a 40k admech fan, the Phyrexians are right up my ally. Great work!
What about k'rrik, son of yawgmoth? Isn't he the second generation, or am I overthinking things, but it is interesting how phyrexians reproduce
Technically, every first gen phyrexians (the ones we saw as villain 20 years ago back in the Invasion block or perhaps older, and most recently on the Brothers' War expansion) are children of Yawgmoth.
Therefore, if we are to categorize phyrexian into generations like we did the iPhones, K'rrik is a Gen 1 phyrexian spawned from Yawgmoth. Although vastly different in card power level, K'rrik is technically no different from any common phyrexian cards like Phyrexian Ragers in terms of phyrexian tech generation used in his creation (may be a bit more advanced, but nothing too revolutionary). What K'rrik has different from other phyrexian at that time was probably his ambition and the sheer audacity calling himself the (self-appointed) 'son' of Yawgmoth
Nah the second generation came after the fall of the first when the soul of Phyrexia Yawgmoth died thus the plane collapsed erasing to the blind eternities every Phyrexian on it
Man MTG would make a pretty cool anime. Heck it could be multiple spin offs under the same banner or just an anthology
Didnt even know they were a family....
So, if we have a phyerxian that think induvial for themselves, that can think from right and wrong; is it possible to have a phyerxian turn good and help our heroes at the next phyerxian invasion?
I've never heard of the character Uhtrawksaw
wonder if Norns grandchild will hook up with Urabrask ?That Mothers drive ,the Individualism to watch your offspring to grow and prosper with granting freedom .
Where is this lore from? I never saw it in the stories?
Don't forget that some phyrexians can be born entirely from the oil (no organics needed) this however was more common on old phyrexia.
So if the oil connects everyone to the one will and if the newer generations of phyrexian having thoughts and feelings that shouldn´t be possible does that mean the oil get´s weakened everytime a phyrexian creates a new one from itself ?
fucking love this bro, keep it up.
Will do 😎
I run vishgraz as a commander, my boy was done so dirty man.
Is this to speculate that eventually, the oiled up phyrezians will become so diluted they go back to normal?
I’d say it’s the “oilline” of Atraxa
How does memnarc get organic life from other planes to mirodin? By that logic shouldn’t he be able to transport him self to other planes with that same ability? Doing exactly what he wanted. It makes no sense.
I think you mean the Oil-line of Atraxa
inb4 Chad Vishgraz shows up, saves an entire plane of existence, leaves the plane to it's own devices out of honor for it's mother's individualism that created him, creating a pattern in it's actions of helping people until it finally awakens it's spark.
Ya know, I was thinking about it and I remember being a teenager when New Phyrexia came out and being like oh man there's so many story possibilities with them and gotta say I think their current strategy of sprinkling in Preators in other sets should have happened years ago (while keeping the actual big crossover event around now) and been used to build up they are acting in the background while Bolas was the big bad. Or had a core set that was the New Phyrexian civil war and gave us a peek into that madness before they did it. I know they wanted to keep em on the back burner and mysterious but I don't think that was the right call.
Like 1.) Bolas got like 12 years of build up and NP gets like 3 which I would switch those around in a second if I could. They coulda sprinkled them in and had their plan be mysterious and imply how apocalyptic it could potentially be and had them feel more like characters with agency (as much as a Phyrexian has agency) working towards a goal instead of the designated new big bad. and 2.) I will never understand why we didn't get that New Phyrexian civil war where Elesh Norn became Mother of Machine as a set. Like with some of the weaker over the years I just thought we coulda had that phantasmorgical body horror bonanaza and instead it was mentioned in a couple sentences in a lore article with no details and we found out Norn, Sheoldred, Jin-Gitaxis, and Vorinclex made a bff horrifying angel abomination together which while exactly on brand for them doesn't change the fact that I want that set more than anything. Hindsight is 20/20 though so what can ya do. My first set was Scars of Mirrodin after I read a lot of the novels so I'm pretty invested in these sick surgery addicted freaks and definitely think they deserved more of the spotlight over the years of Bolas going mwahaha just as planned.
Bolas *DID NOT* get 12 years of buildup, his actual arc for War lasted only 2-3 years JUST like this one is
When was Time Spiral block when he came back and ended with him lore wise maniacally laughing and basically being sign posted as the villain? 2006. We had Lorwyn which was the Eldraine come down block of it's day so no Bolas. Then Alara block where he's the villain of the whole set so there's 1 time he was a villain. Then Zendikar where he had Sarkhan Vol release the Eldrazi from the Eye of Ugin so he's indirectly causing the villains of that set. Than Scars of Mirrodin where he sent Tezzeret as a double agent to go work with the Phyrexians and spy on them so there's another part of the story he's directly influencing the story almost like a main villain. Innistrad is next and he's indirectly responsible for Sorin coming back to Innistrad via him failing at stopping the Eldrazi and releasing Avacyn. So Bolas is indirectly responsible for that. Then Return to Ravnica which Bolas had a hand in via Ral Zarek being his toady and trying to become the living guildpact presumably so Bolas didn't have to do all that stuff he did leading up to War of the Spark. Ral Zarak was the main antagonistic force of that block so there's Bolas again. RoR was 2013, WotS was 2019 so we got 6 more years of just expansion sets of lore, which is twice what you claimed. I can go on but you're wrong so wrong like it's kinda funny how wrong you are lol. You can do whatever logical gymnastics you want to justify why what you said is right but Bolas was the main villain for 12 years and that's what I meant so you're wrong.
You gotta remember that the early days of Magic from Tempest onwards were devoted to phyrexians, and even after that, hints of Phyrexia were still found in the original Mirrodin (2003/2004), so that's like almost a good 6-8 years. Then in 2012, we had New Phyrexia, which gave it another year. Bolas being the big bad after that was good to ensure the Phyrexians remained fresh and appealing.
Part of Memnarch's history is wrong in this...
Karn was still a planeswalker when he created mirrodin. He created it as a perfect plane, free from the problems of normal planes. Everything was made of metal and had geometrically and symmetrically perfect patterns. Memnarch was created originally to follow him around when he visited other planes and collect samples of life. Throughout the Mirrodin saga Glissa has dreams of this abduction. But the lifeforms are put onto mirrodin to populate it. The lifeforms adapted and grew with metal in their DNA. They had to survive things like razorgrass and the tangle, to name a couple deadly hazards.
Karn leaves the planet to Memnarch to watch over it and doesnt come back for a VERY long time, in fact, Karn is considered missing during this time period. Memnarch becomes lonely and starts looking for ways to get off the plane and eventually finds out that with this new plane comes a new spark. So he spends generations searching for it with machines like Myr and (cant remember the name of the bulldozer things), as well as using his influence amongst the populations.
MEMNARCH HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE OIL IS OR WHAT IT IS DOING UNTIL HE IS ABOUT TO DIE--- i believe its the first chapter of the first book he finds oil and has no clue what it is and shrugs it off.The ending in his lab is where he talks about not paying attention to it. If anything, Geth knows more about the oil than Memnarch ever did.
When the story comes to an end, Glissa dies while killing Memnarch who is trying to get the spark he thinks she has. But Slobad is the one ends up with the spark. Karn shows up and shows Slobad what the power of a planeswalker is like, and within a short span of time they experience several other planes and he feels the power of being a planeswalker. When they get back Slobad doesnt care because his best friend (glissa) is dead and Karn tells him that he can give up the spark to bring her back to life and he quickly agrees.
Karn apologizes, feels bad, and takes off. He was a PW the entire time, and he brought the oil to Mirrodin where it slowly grew into the threat it became. The metal nature of mirrodin was perfect for it and made the phyrexians that we're so familiar with today. Before mirrodin, phyrexians were not primarily metal (See early phyrexian cards).
sorry but Mirrodin was my favorite part of the magic story. Memnarch is truly a fascinating villain, with just about NO CLUE the oil is doing what its doing. He just wanted to get TF off that plane because he was lonely. Literally, because he was going mad from being lonely and injecting himself with serum to try and leave.
It sounds like the phyrexians spent too much time in the breeding pool!
I miss the old Phyrexians and how creepy they looked
Zendikarian Eldrazi should have been a natural enemies for these borg monsters, shame they never made this story line.
who bets Ixhel gest bit more red and joins Urabrask
" A TROX A ??? " atraxa A TRAXA
Hey mom grandma it followed me home can I keep it
No sweetheart it's too big a responsibility put it back in the swamp bit
Ok don't worry i will come see you and give you treats.
Exactly true. Love this
Elish norn will rule all!
All hail the mother of machines
All hail!!!
Meanwhile Ashiok trolling Norn with bad dreams because he can.
So why Ixhel has no blue mana like his mother?
WE IN THERE BOIS!!
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