This is an excuse to show you a really good tunnel

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  • čas přidán 28. 05. 2023
  • The Catesby Tunnel, in the UK, is an old Victorian railway tunnel that has a new use: a secretive car testing facility, like a wind tunnel but in reverse. So rather than just show it to the world, I thought I'd answer a question: if you stick a camera on the outside of your car, how much does the drag cost you? ■ The tunnel: catesbytunnel.com/
    Camera: Jamie MacLeod www.jamiemacleod.co.uk/
    Editor: Michelle Martin / mrsmmartin
    This is not an advert, Catesby Projects and the tunnel team had no editorial control and I wasn't paid. (In fact, I paid quite a bit for the fire safety team!)
    Thank you to the many people who suggested this over the years, but in particular to David who was able to put me in touch with them directly!
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  • @TomScottGo
    @TomScottGo  Před rokem +8316

    There were so many possible titles and thumbnails for this video. "Does attaching a camera to your car cost money?" "It's a reverse wind tunnel." "Testing like this used to be impossible." In the end, I just decided I wanted to show you a good tunnel.

    • @tau9956
      @tau9956 Před rokem +36

      Thx I guess

    • @claytations
      @claytations Před rokem +67

      Thanks for staying honest. 😊

    • @Spiretail
      @Spiretail Před rokem +129

      A good tunnel it was.

    • @Aieieo
      @Aieieo Před rokem +44

      It is a nice tunnel.

    • @Acre00
      @Acre00 Před rokem +32

      I am so happy you went with the thumbnail you did. The others feel really clickbait-y

  • @bonelesswatermelon420
    @bonelesswatermelon420 Před rokem +14190

    Tom somehow manages to continue his trend of train videos despite not having a single train in sight

    • @NeonCoding
      @NeonCoding Před rokem +475

      "The accidental train special" would be much worse in this case

    • @ethanhoward389
      @ethanhoward389 Před rokem +132

      Train adjacent

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae Před rokem +118

      And this is totes a trains vid, bcuz my train lovin arse even got to have a moment of glee when they used the turn table xD
      I dont think a single trainspotter wudnt be absolutely giddy to be able to ride on a turn table in a disused train tunnel, even if just to flip a u turn xD

    • @traviscesarone4786
      @traviscesarone4786 Před rokem +8

      Ghost train.

    • @DiegoGarcia-yl3im
      @DiegoGarcia-yl3im Před rokem +2

      @@ethanhoward389 liked this reference😅

  • @n1ppe
    @n1ppe Před rokem +3670

    You don't need an excuse to show us really good tunnels

    • @radekt.7843
      @radekt.7843 Před rokem +28

      His last excuse to show us really good tunnel was maglev train

    • @the21andonly
      @the21andonly Před rokem +18

      especially since he's right. This is definitely one of the best tunnels I've seen

    • @EvanTownsend
      @EvanTownsend Před rokem +3

      ​@Max Thrower that's your girls tunnel

    • @arandomcommenter412
      @arandomcommenter412 Před rokem +1

      Is this intended to sound sexual or is that just a byproduct

  • @NEPAAlchey
    @NEPAAlchey Před rokem +3146

    Cool to see a professional in the automotive industry refer to it as an "Austin Powers turn".

    • @the_original_Bilb_Ono
      @the_original_Bilb_Ono Před rokem +66

      I liked that

    • @Stexen
      @Stexen Před rokem +83

      Hilarious reference. Always makes me laugh

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před rokem +181

      The one time I got to drive a steam roller (just pulling into a repair bay) I shouted to the other employee, "Get out of the way!" and he just screamed in mock terror while 'stuck in place'.
      We laughed.

    • @narnigrin
      @narnigrin Před rokem +43

      That little reference made me unreasonably happy

    • @BaldMancTwat
      @BaldMancTwat Před rokem +16

      Everyone I know refers to anything more than a 5-point-turn as an "Austin Powers". We even use it as a verb, e.g. "I Austin Powered my way out of there." or "I might have to Austin Powers it to get out of this one."

  • @ryanpenrod1859
    @ryanpenrod1859 Před rokem +4476

    3mm in 2.7 km? That's an absurd level of precision even for today, much less Victorian England. What the hell?

    • @TheHobohobbit
      @TheHobohobbit Před rokem +292

      The victorians were the best engineers in the world. much of their stuff is still in use today

    • @General12th
      @General12th Před rokem +1012

      @@TheHobohobbit That's a description, not an explanation. You might as well just say "dwarves did it".

    • @pachychon
      @pachychon Před rokem +227

      The techniques and skills have been lost to time and lowering of quality of material and workers. Money would be a big factor too, with governments using the cheapest options possible.
      There was also the factor of there being a high demand built around a whole industry for the country at large.

    • @modprog
      @modprog Před rokem +152

      @@partraiserhc9351 I understood it to mean that it is a straight line within 3 mm, but that straight line isn't actually tangential to earth at the tunnel center.

    • @ildarion3367
      @ildarion3367 Před rokem +99

      @@partraiserhc9351 It's impossible to have a straight line running parallel to the earth's geoid so I don't know what you're smoking.

  • @avirubinoff7494
    @avirubinoff7494 Před rokem +772

    I really like that the solution to the problem of "there are bats in the tunnel" was "build a bat hotel".

    • @654jimbob654
      @654jimbob654 Před rokem +115

      Bats are a protected species in the UK. As they often make homes in abandoned buildings or other structures, it's common to see issues arising where renovations or demolitions are delayed because it's against the law to disturb/kill bats, damage their resting places or obstruct access to their shelters. Relocating them to a hotel is a great way of giving them a suitable replacement home!

    • @aim-to-misbehave5674
      @aim-to-misbehave5674 Před rokem +99

      And a reminder to people not in the UK that bats are rabies-free here! So while you don't have to worry about deadly diseases if you upset bats, you _do_ have to worry about the fine of up to £5k per bat for disturbing them

    • @kenmcfa
      @kenmcfa Před rokem +9

      When life gives you bats...

    • @Sophiebryson510
      @Sophiebryson510 Před rokem +19

      @@kenmcfa make battade…?

    • @snepNL
      @snepNL Před rokem +9

      @@Sophiebryson510 make a bat hotel

  • @MoehClon
    @MoehClon Před rokem +1372

    I love that last sentence "this is the closest I´ve gotten to science in a long time".
    I´m especially remembering the "toaster numbers don´t mean minutes" and the "I want to destroy my fingerprints with pineapple-based torture" videos as examples of Tom Scott ´doing science´.

    • @mistermist634
      @mistermist634 Před rokem +101

      Don't forget "throwing drums and a cymbal off a cliff"!

    • @lucarr1041
      @lucarr1041 Před rokem +36

      meanwhile, the recommended video at the end is literally Tom standing on a science instrument.
      Different kind of "close", but good enough for me

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před rokem +38

      I think Tom's greatest scientific work is his audience surveying. He determined important results like the best thing, how weird his audience is, and the variations of "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells".

    • @MoehClon
      @MoehClon Před rokem +9

      @@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 and how to call that owl! UN-General secretary Ban Ki-Moon

    • @Shaun.Stephens
      @Shaun.Stephens Před rokem +1

      He didn't say "gotten", he said "got". Tom speaks English.

  • @normang3668
    @normang3668 Před rokem +391

    I love how the multi-point turn has become universally recognized as the 'Austin Powers' turn.

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 Před rokem +14

      It's a great universal, non offensive, easily communicated concept. Most Western people have by now seen the film or at least the short of the multi point U turn, so it now works as a shorthand description.

    • @leopold7562
      @leopold7562 Před rokem +3

      Me too. I used to think it was just me and my mates who used that, but it seems everyone uses it

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před rokem +1

      Not to be confused with the old "Rockford Files" flying J turn.

    • @supremebuffalo6322
      @supremebuffalo6322 Před 7 měsíci

      I also like to use Austin Powers as a verb for getting a car stuck.
      "I've Austin Powers'd the car while trying to turn in the alley"

  • @g00dbyemisterA
    @g00dbyemisterA Před rokem +996

    Gonna be honest Tom, I am mostly upset that this video isnt about the Bat Hotel

    • @Tsudico
      @Tsudico Před rokem +84

      Hopefully that's the next one. I wonder where the largest bat hotel is on Earth?

    • @smeeself
      @smeeself Před rokem +56

      ​@@Tsudico Transylvania?

    • @bonecanoe86
      @bonecanoe86 Před rokem +28

      Someone get the Tim Traveler to go to it!

    • @frzstat
      @frzstat Před rokem +18

      @@TsudicoGotham City?

    • @geoffroi-le-Hook
      @geoffroi-le-Hook Před rokem +3

      Louisville, Kentucky ?

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 Před rokem +2609

    I liked that Tom used the fact that he uses different cameras as a way to thrown some science into the video.

  • @Zebra_M
    @Zebra_M Před rokem +275

    Loved the editing on that cut from "we don't want to see the cameraman in the back - because he isn't there." Like a magic trick but not exactly secret as to how it works haha

  • @microwave221
    @microwave221 Před rokem +449

    As someone who used to work in notoriously more active tunnels, l can say that the procedure for turning around the wrecker/fire trucks was full lock turn until you hit the wall, full lock the other way until you hit the other, then full lock again into the wall once more if you set yourself up well and twice more if you didn't. The trucks were build with this procedure in mind, the difference those last few inches made was astounding

    • @JackieBright
      @JackieBright Před rokem +98

      So a well engineered Austin Powers turn

    • @charleslambert3368
      @charleslambert3368 Před rokem +18

      Reminds me of the time I had the misfortune to go down a no-through-road in Oxford.

    • @semurobo
      @semurobo Před 10 měsíci

      So you actually physically touched the Wall? Or you Just went as close as possible without touching anything?

    • @microwave221
      @microwave221 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@semurobo actually contact it. You didn't hit it at speed, and the trucks had bumpstops or a pushpad so there wouldn't be any damage. There wasn't all that much space on either side when the rig was perpendicular, so every inch mattered

  • @batterietyp4059
    @batterietyp4059 Před rokem +4106

    3mm deviation off the laser is absolutely crazy to me. How did they do that?

    • @hongk0ngfu3y
      @hongk0ngfu3y Před rokem +731

      flat earth

    • @glenngriffon8032
      @glenngriffon8032 Před rokem +790

      More stringent adherence to set measurements and probably a very accurate plumb line.

    • @Djorgal
      @Djorgal Před rokem

      If you want crazy, look up the Ligo and Virgo experiments. They are like rulers in that they are devices that measure their own length. These tubes are about 4km long, but this length is known to a precision of a tenth of the width of an atom.

    • @stefanmadzharov9170
      @stefanmadzharov9170 Před rokem +830

      my guess would be literal thread under tension

    • @DanielQRT
      @DanielQRT Před rokem +433

      especially when considering the fact that over 2.7 km due to the curvature of the earth the tunnel rises 57 cm (22 inches) (making some assumptions)

  • @somebystander9465
    @somebystander9465 Před rokem +323

    This indeed is a good tunnel

    • @slink66
      @slink66 Před rokem +1

      Abracadabra

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před rokem

      I wonder what happens if you drive a car in the tunnel up to 141.622kph?

  • @binbob9
    @binbob9 Před rokem +162

    I used to work there. Jon is a great guy and a great boss. I’ve got a lot of respect for what he’s achieved and for how he’s running that place.

  • @MikeV8652
    @MikeV8652 Před rokem +139

    In case anyone is confused by the tunnel being "flat," yet having a gradient: "Flat" is not the same as "level." A level line is a curved line (constant distance from Earth's center of gravity). This tunnel is instead "flat," meaning straight, not curved. It has gradient, because one end is higher in elevation than the other (probably to facilitate drainage), and the elevation difference between the ends would have to exceed the difference of the middle from level. In the absence of gradient, all water that seeps into a flat tunnel would drain to the middle, because that's the point lowest from level.

    • @GRosa
      @GRosa Před rokem +1

      What do you mean by "vertically straightly"?

    • @MikeV8652
      @MikeV8652 Před rokem +7

      @@GRosa That's a slight editing error. I meant "vertically straight," and by that I mean not curved in the vertical axis, as a level line or a line on the surface of the earth is. A straight line is, of course, the shortest distance between two points, or the trajectory of a laser beam.

    • @leopold7562
      @leopold7562 Před rokem +1

      I'd have said "flat" as in there are no undulations in the surface

    • @PownyRider
      @PownyRider Před rokem

      Depends on where your tunnel start. It could also run out from one end.

    • @MikeV8652
      @MikeV8652 Před rokem +13

      @@PownyRider Only if a flat tunnel has gradient could water run out one end or the other. If both ends of a flat tunnel had the same elevation, water would drain (or marbles would roll) to the middle, because the middle sags relatively lowest from level (deepest within a spherical earth). The effects of gravity are balanced by levelness, not by flatness. Imagine a hypothetical straight (flat) tunnel from London to New York. Both ends would emerge from the earth at an angle, and its middle would be many miles deep into the earth. Clearly, any water or marbles would pool in the middle.

  • @Mumpy
    @Mumpy Před rokem +580

    I love how Jon Paton had to remind us that the surface of the earth is curved, just in case a certain group of people unironically cite the laser light as proof the earth is flat...

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Před rokem +47

      "A... fifteen degree per hour drift..." - "Thanks, Bob!"

    • @Grim_Beard
      @Grim_Beard Před rokem +14

      "Interesting."

    • @Runescaper1357
      @Runescaper1357 Před rokem +2

      In principle, it's not a dumb argument; there *must* be a distance at which the curvature should be noticeable.
      How long of a perfectly-level run would one need to observe (or not observe) the phenomenon?
      I know of the canal and mast test, and that those results can be disregarded due to not factoring in refraction from air and water.
      I know of a test done on a frozen lake at a distance of roughly 6km that demonstrated no curvature.
      I recall several other long-distance shots (10+ km) of buildings and landscapes from a camera (Nikon P900 I think?) which purportedly ought not to be possible on a curved earth.
      What do you think about the idea?
      What evidence do you know of?

    • @ashman187
      @ashman187 Před rokem +3

      2.7 Km is = 8 inches per mile squared, or 52 inches of curve.

    • @Creaform003
      @Creaform003 Před rokem +52

      @@Runescaper1357 The easiest way to see the curvature with the naked eye, is in our shadow on the moon.
      There is also a place in Australia you can see it quite nicely. The Nullarbor Plains, I spent a few hours going across it in a train and it messes with your head. You can't see beyond about 10-20km in any direction. It feels like the world hasn't rendered correctly and your view distance is set to medium.

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 Před rokem +605

    Excellent reuse of infrastructure. I feel there are a lot of old abandoned things that could be reused. It’s just that the people that could use it don’t know it exists.

    • @goosenotmaverick1156
      @goosenotmaverick1156 Před rokem +28

      Agreed! Reuse of infrastructure could save so much in building materials alone, much less once you consider all the environmental costs that would be reduced significantly by not having to build from an empty lot. Not to mention the cool history that can be saved in ways like this!

    • @DJenerate
      @DJenerate Před rokem +16

      It reminds me of something similar near me in Dudley, there's a former rail tunnel that's not being used by the new tram line, so they've repurposed it into part of a test track for 'Very Light Rail'. I guess using a railway tunnel for something running on rails isn't as interesting, but it's still great to see the infrastructure being used again.

    • @goosenotmaverick1156
      @goosenotmaverick1156 Před rokem +10

      @@DJenerate in my opinion, anything like that is interesting, I see any reuse of large scale anything, interesting. I mean, bringing back anything as even the same thing as it was, can be a process. Plus, anything developing in rail transport is also interesting 😎

    • @garganchua
      @garganchua Před rokem +1

      reusing train tunnels for cars is such an amazing idea its a shame we dont do it more often. most people who drive cars like to go out of their way just to use the path with tunnels because vroom

    • @DarkSkay
      @DarkSkay Před rokem +1

      Well-built stuff can save so much time, money, resources.

  • @kice
    @kice Před rokem +117

    Tom's obsession with tunnels or just a big hole underground is comparable to the obsession of Sam from Wendover to airplane/logistics.

    • @Airbourne92
      @Airbourne92 Před rokem +12

      Tom Scott is a hobbit confirmed

    • @DarkSkay
      @DarkSkay Před rokem +1

      It would also have been interesting to see the tunnel as a kind of canal, with vehicles speeding on the water surface instead of asphalt.

  • @MrGreatplum
    @MrGreatplum Před rokem +14

    The Great Central railway main line was built to a phenomenally high standard; it’s no surprise to me that tunnel is so well engineered.

  • @izzieb
    @izzieb Před rokem +211

    I've heard of this tunnel before, it very much seems they were inspired by Chip Ganassis's testing tunnel (the Laurel Hill Tunnel in Pennsylvania) which was used by his various race teams for testing. I believe Chip Ganassi began using it for testing in 2004.

    • @davidz2690
      @davidz2690 Před rokem +20

      And this one is in Northamptonshire, at the heart of world motorsport

    • @SmD-ff5xd
      @SmD-ff5xd Před rokem +5

      I don't think so. This tunnel is much larger and is available for hire, I believe the only one in the world. used not just for aerodynamics & emissions testing they also have Sunday's where it's available to the public for cycling and the like

    • @McAdamSandwich
      @McAdamSandwich Před rokem

      @@davidz2690 Fairly certain Red Bull's F1 team has/does use it.

    • @davidz2690
      @davidz2690 Před rokem

      @@McAdamSandwich Not surprised - seven F1 teams are based nearby

  • @spblz
    @spblz Před rokem +4283

    Wild how victorians built better tunnels than Elon Musk.

    • @jantschierschky3461
      @jantschierschky3461 Před rokem +465

      Everyone can

    • @BloodyMobile
      @BloodyMobile Před rokem +93

      Nice burn xD

    • @barneylaurance1865
      @barneylaurance1865 Před rokem +20

      Also wondering how that's defined. Won't it depend hugely on which exact points on the tunnel you measure at the beginning and end? I wouldn't expect the shape to be that precisely the same at both ends. Or is it based on an average of measurements from all around the top bottom and side walls of the tunnel at the two ends?

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz Před rokem +251

      ​​@@barneylaurance1865 he literally described how they did it they used a laser that put out a beam from one end to the other and it was 3mm difference.

    • @wellwell7950
      @wellwell7950 Před rokem +23

      That's not hard

  • @Crosier5961
    @Crosier5961 Před rokem +62

    I had a friend who would only put $20 worth of fuel in his car because his logic was "more fuel = more weight. More weight = less gas mileage" so he saw that as the perfect balance. This just made me think of that.

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 Před rokem +7

      But it would have meant gradually putting less and less fuel in his car. Keep that car long enough, and you're not even going to make it to the shops!

    • @edopronk1303
      @edopronk1303 Před rokem +6

      He's got a point. Although it is probably negligible, 20 liters more or less.

    • @Robert-cu9bm
      @Robert-cu9bm Před rokem +42

      But then you waste more detouring to the petrol station.

    • @bubblinebee
      @bubblinebee Před rokem +12

      @@Robert-cu9bm This exactly! Stopping to get more fuel costs fuel, but my mom would never listen...

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Před rokem +8

      @@Robert-cu9bm The solution is to illegally keep a big tank of fuel in your garage and fill up from that as needed.

  • @invisiblewizard2538
    @invisiblewizard2538 Před rokem +13

    Used to live near there, it was on my regular jogging route. I remember when it was just a disused train tunnel - then all the construction, then the new road layout on the A364... Nice to see the inside of it!

  • @glenngriffon8032
    @glenngriffon8032 Před rokem +25

    "Austin Powers 37 point turn" had me rolling

  • @gilly_the_fish
    @gilly_the_fish Před rokem +124

    With all the times Tom and crew have mentioned Thunderbirds over the years, I feel like I've watched the whole thing by now.

  • @uumlaut-
    @uumlaut- Před rokem +30

    1:07 made me unbelievably happy. I'm glad that they opted to relocate the bats while still getting access to the tunnel

    • @sarahlouisebutler
      @sarahlouisebutler Před rokem +9

      I love that too, but legally they cannot disturb the bats. Bats and their roosts are protected under law in the UK (possibly internationally but I'm not sure).

    • @uumlaut-
      @uumlaut- Před rokem +1

      @@sarahlouisebutler happy non the less. The last thing we need is more meddling with bats, haha

    • @binbob9
      @binbob9 Před rokem

      I used to work there and it was the biggest hurdle before starting work, more so than any of the engineering bits. Took a looooong time to get sorted.

  • @JoshuaHill182
    @JoshuaHill182 Před rokem +16

    As someone with a degree in physics, this work site really interests me. I love that it was built buy the victorians. Maybe i should send in my CV and see what happens

  • @garfythecat
    @garfythecat Před rokem +136

    I visited both tunnel heads about 20 years ago as I had an interest in the old GCR. A fascinating piece of engineering and it's pleasing to see you don't have to fight through decades of neglect to get to the tunnel now!

  • @PietroNobili
    @PietroNobili Před rokem +206

    This could help answering whether it's more efficient to lower your car windows or use air conditioning, I've always wondered about that

    • @fireaza
      @fireaza Před rokem +25

      The Mythbusters did an episode on that.

    • @TSZatoichi
      @TSZatoichi Před rokem +40

      Mythbusters already did that, use your AC.

    • @RJFerret
      @RJFerret Před rokem +95

      Mythbusters tested this via measuring fuel usage over a long time around a racetrack, obviously the exact threshold varies based on vehicle, but essentially AC more efficient at high speeds (highway), open windows at low speeds (city).

    • @Atlessa
      @Atlessa Před rokem +27

      Mythbusters did that in real world conditions a long time ago. Their method: Have a transparent tank on the outside of the car where they could see how much fuel they used, and drive around the perimeter of a parking lot several times in varying configurations.
      I believe their result was that the AC was quite a bit more efficient, but keep in mind that was more than 10 years ago so car aerodynamics and AC technology have certainly progressed since.

    • @benwisey
      @benwisey Před rokem +2

      Mythbusters tested that.

  • @wanderingrandomer
    @wanderingrandomer Před rokem +9

    I love how "doing an Austin Powers" is immediately recognisable as a term. I and a lot of people I know refer to that when botching a 3-point turn

  • @abarratt8869
    @abarratt8869 Před rokem +11

    That's a fabulous facility. It strikes me that it's the kind of thing that nobody thought they needed, until someone built it. And then they all realise they need it. And there's not many dead straight, long, spare tunnels around the world...
    Reminds me of the road testing facility Tom went to in France, with a massively heavy high speed merry-go-round on lorry tyres. Crazy, until you see the results.

    • @zr4937
      @zr4937 Před rokem +2

      I live near this facility, and only just now realised what it was for. Growing up in Northampton, saw lots of random places which had abandoned railway tracks from the old railway line that was abandoned in favour of the Northampton-Milton Keynes/London line. We also have a lift tower that, well, was used to test lifts. Now we just abseil down it because we don't need to test lifts here anymore apparently, and at Christmas time we put a tree on top of it. Midlanders are weird.

    • @abarratt8869
      @abarratt8869 Před rokem

      @@zr4937 I know the lift tower - driven round it. Listed building now - that's going to cost the owner a lot of money one day.
      Terry Wogan used to refer to it as the Northampton lighthouse. "Why," he would muse, "are they building a lighthouse in Northampton so far from the sea?".

  • @rud
    @rud Před rokem +38

    Legends has it that if you go in there at midnight on the shortest day of the year, you can still hear ghosts of trains past, going though the tunnel, their whistles blaring right though your soul.

  • @NichtcrawlerX
    @NichtcrawlerX Před rokem +5

    "This needs the music from Thunderbirds"
    I know that feeling, it always plays in my head when I see those stair single seat elevators and the like. I also always point it out and I am quite certain by now it always annoys the people I am with...

  • @otterylexa4499
    @otterylexa4499 Před rokem +16

    I've seen videos on the Catesby tunnel before but this was definitely the best. And a fascinating little bit of science as well, which demonstrates the advantage of the set-up. You'd need a lot more runs to get that data in the open.

    • @otterylexa4499
      @otterylexa4499 Před rokem +5

      As someone else also mentioned, you could also film a very Tom Scott video on the bat hotel. With an interview with an Environmental Conservation officer.

  • @jaydavis2839
    @jaydavis2839 Před rokem +9

    I’m so glad health and safety made you wear hi-vis vests because all the traffic on that roadway

    • @u1zha
      @u1zha Před rokem +3

      More like to make rescuers see them more easily, in case of a freak accident with all lights going out lots of smoke accumulating

  • @mejiavince
    @mejiavince Před rokem +27

    That is a really good tunnel.

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 Před rokem +5

    1:06 I was about to be bummed, but they made them their own little bat hotel how lovely!
    (UF Has some MASSIVE Ones)

  • @rkan2
    @rkan2 Před rokem +4

    Fittingly after watching Technology Connection's video about the Ioniq 5's brake lights :P

  • @DaLoveDonkey69420
    @DaLoveDonkey69420 Před rokem +2

    I always love the timing with your dialogs!

  • @techdaemn
    @techdaemn Před rokem +18

    One interesting nit. Gradient aside, "perfectly flat" (or rather perfectly straight) is not flat for the purposes of coasting a car. Mentioned at the beginning, but earth's surface is curved, so if the tunnel were same elevation at both ends, but perfectly straight then effectively it's actually lower in the middle and you're going uphill slightly toward either end. If water leaked in, it would literally pool up in the middle of the tunnel eventually forming a curved surface.
    With the gradient and straight profile it means that the tunnel is effectively steeper at one end than it is at the other end, relative to the pull of gravity. All of this needs to be accounted for in their calculations.

    • @smeeself
      @smeeself Před rokem

      Yes. They advertise a constant gradient of 1:176

    • @techdaemn
      @techdaemn Před rokem +1

      @@smeeself Cept if it's truly laser straight, then it is *not* a constant gradient in the way that gradient matters (coasting in this case). A level will measure different values at one end, center, and other end.

    • @quillmaurer6563
      @quillmaurer6563 Před rokem +2

      This crossed my mind as well. Running these calculations (in a rough approximation that will at least give reasonable order of magnitude) I get a difference in angle of about 0.024°, .04%, or 1 in 2355. My guess is that this effect is so insignificant that it doesn't matter, even at the precision they are doing. Initially I figured this might be less than a rounding error for the given 1:176, but when I tried adding this new gradient I got 1:163, so it would be measurable in that given number - but still probably so insignificant they don't really care. 1:176 is probably the average through the tunnel.

    • @smeeself
      @smeeself Před rokem

      ​@techdaemon Absolutely. Good point. But the gravitational difference between two ends of a 110km tunnel ( at sea level) is about 0.003m/s.
      For a 3km tunnel it is less than 0.000002. m/s
      ( I'm not sure but local gravitational somnolent might be greater than that so I'll let them pass this time)
      😃

    • @smeeself
      @smeeself Před rokem

      ​@@quillmaurer6563 I got 1:169 ( done very roughly too) but either way, I think your right, it's not going to factor into their work. 👍

  • @tigershark2328
    @tigershark2328 Před rokem +13

    As an Aerospace student who's used a Wind tunnel:
    THIS IS SO COOL
    I wanna visit!!!

  • @davidf2281
    @davidf2281 Před rokem +30

    I'm waiting for the video in a couple of decades where Tom just sits down in front of the camera and says, "Sorry folks, I've run out of interesting things having made a video on every single one of them. Let's play cards or something."

    • @BunkerFox
      @BunkerFox Před rokem +7

      That would, in itself, be interesting

    • @godzillas6301
      @godzillas6301 Před rokem +6

      In 1945 in mexico 4 men sat down to play cards and each of them was delt a royal flush ........
      True tale ...... now try to work out the odds which are mind boggling .

    • @thegurw1994
      @thegurw1994 Před rokem +5

      ​@@godzillas6301 well, the odds of being dealt a royal flush is 4 in about 2.6 million. So the odds of 4 royal flushes dealt in one hand would indeed be astronomical.

    • @otterylexa4499
      @otterylexa4499 Před rokem +5

      He's already announced that he will be retiring in a few years time.

    • @kaspernbs
      @kaspernbs Před rokem

      I think he already did a running out of ideas video.

  • @alucide
    @alucide Před rokem +5

    Nice to see the deviation in the measurements is the same as the resolution of the measurement: 100 fps 0,01 s.
    And now to be as pedantic as Tom would appreciate; the mass of the car does change, as energy in batteries has mass, it's just low enough that the wearing down of the paint on the car by air friction is probably more than the change in weight if the battery, not to mention the moisture loss of the driver or the wear of the tires.

  • @mehalld
    @mehalld Před rokem +5

    One of the few good outcomes of the Beeching cuts, though the "unnecessary duplication" of other lines sure could come in useful now when we're stuck on capacity.

  • @listey
    @listey Před rokem +8

    You had me at "Tom Scott" and "tunnel".

  • @Schmidtelpunkt
    @Schmidtelpunkt Před rokem +6

    Aaaand there I am sucked into the rabbit hole of following the geographic patterns of a former railway line through England...

  • @phyphor
    @phyphor Před rokem +6

    "how's that for timing?" - it's almost like you have been doing this for a while!
    Top work, Tom.

  • @seanehle8323
    @seanehle8323 Před rokem +6

    Hey Tom! Such a random treat to "run into you" at Heathrow a few days ago. Can't believe I lost my footing like that.
    It's still a highlight of my trip to have met you, even if under unfortunate circumstances.

  • @joshuaburgess7727
    @joshuaburgess7727 Před rokem +24

    I bet the acoustic sound and potential in there is incredible 😅

  • @officialmcdeath
    @officialmcdeath Před rokem +32

    GCR was the last and best engineered mainline of the steam era and Catesby Tunnel is testament to that \m/

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Před rokem +60

    Adam Something is correct, even when it comes to designing cars, railways are the answer.
    Another weird, entertaining and informative video from Tom and his crew.
    Now I want to see the same experiments being run with different breeds of dogs with their head out of the window.

    • @zoom3184
      @zoom3184 Před rokem +6

      pugs gotta be the least efficient is my guess

    • @pattheplanter
      @pattheplanter Před rokem +10

      And different sizes of evil henchmen hanging on to the roof with varying weapons.

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser Před rokem +8

      Nah, if you're saying that about cars, you're wrong. There are real world use cases where a the car is, in fact, the best option. Just a lot less of them than is assumed when designing infrastructure in most of the world these days.
      On the other hand, it would be entirely correct to say 'when it comes to designing Roads, railways are the answer (most of the time)'.

  • @tapio_m6861
    @tapio_m6861 Před rokem +87

    Oh god I thought Tom had gone to the silly Tesla tunnel.
    The result is interesting, and I can only imagine that they have also done tests for those roof boxes for skis. They are known to be bad for fuel efficiency, but I would like to know how much.

    • @BuzzinsPetRock78
      @BuzzinsPetRock78 Před rokem +6

      I think the scientific answer to that would be: very. 😋

    • @web4639
      @web4639 Před rokem +5

      I do think that driving back and forth at a constant speed in a straight line would actually be an ideal situation for a computer controlled car (not a tesla, don't want to ruin the tunnel).

    • @SirDragonClaw
      @SirDragonClaw Před rokem +1

      How are those tunnels silly? They seem to be used by 1000's of people per day.

    • @finngardiner5358
      @finngardiner5358 Před rokem +15

      @@SirDragonClaw single lane, no fire exits, build a tram are the main ones iirc

    • @tapio_m6861
      @tapio_m6861 Před rokem +7

      @@web4639 Make a queue out of all those cars and put more seats in them. And ditch the word "car", use something more to the point. Like an underground or a subway. Or a metro.

  • @Craigels
    @Craigels Před rokem +36

    Another great video as per!
    I love how, even whilst providing an interesting and informative video, Tom is still able to break the 4th wall and make you think about the filming process for thsoe whom are not in the know.

  • @speedincooper
    @speedincooper Před rokem +3

    7:42 - "that's the closest I've got to science in a long time"
    Guy from earthquake tower video: *cries*

  • @SockGoblin801
    @SockGoblin801 Před rokem +2

    You turn some of the most mundane into stuff I find fun and interesting. Your energy is great for a smile. Thanks for your work.

  • @nitehawk86
    @nitehawk86 Před rokem +15

    Would love to see a series where Tom just visits tunnels. Nest time you are in Pennsylvania, visit the abandoned turnpike tunnel in Breezewood. :)

  • @emmahealy4863
    @emmahealy4863 Před rokem +7

    As a caver, I can appreciate a really good tunnel.
    Thanks Tom

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Před rokem

      As an absolute gash hound, me too!

    • @mrlithium69
      @mrlithium69 Před rokem

      gl spelunking to the both of you!

  • @brianholmes1812
    @brianholmes1812 Před rokem +2

    I just love the thunderbirds style turntable setup they have

  • @DogsWithPurpose
    @DogsWithPurpose Před rokem +2

    Glad Tom has been reunited with his true passion.. Tunnels

  • @KeppyKep
    @KeppyKep Před rokem +3

    That's a nice tunnel.
    And I love how you gave us a little behind-the-scenes peek AND made that half the story of the video!

  • @TheFatVeganOne
    @TheFatVeganOne Před rokem +13

    The phrase "That's the closest I've got to science in a long time!" really tickled me 😅

  • @tdbla98
    @tdbla98 Před rokem +3

    The turn table at each end is brilliant! That's awesome. Also great timing Tom. Great video. Love this!

  • @dmdragonfly
    @dmdragonfly Před rokem +15

    Went on a couple of tours of this during its repurposing. Amazing environment inside. Of course, we walked through, so took a little longer.

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 Před rokem

      Must have taken quite a while to reconfigure the tunnel and put in the ceiling and the lighting.

  • @teodorrozej4344
    @teodorrozej4344 Před rokem +7

    4:01 As soon as he said deviation, my mind could only think of: "The missile knows where it is at all times"

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin Před rokem +1

      Not by knowing where it is, but by knowing where it is not.

    • @smeeself
      @smeeself Před rokem

      ​@@kindlin Forgive my ignorance but where is this quote from? Thanks.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin Před rokem

      @@smeeself
      The missile knows where it is....

    • @smeeself
      @smeeself Před rokem

      @@kindlin Does that mean that you don't know...?

    • @incognitoaccount7510
      @incognitoaccount7510 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@smeeself Its an explanation of how missile guidance systems work.
      Google "the missile knows where it is"
      Essentially, the missile subtracts where it is from where it isn't to find where it's going

  • @yellowblue_tt
    @yellowblue_tt Před rokem +11

    that is a very good tunnel, 10/10

  • @mescad
    @mescad Před rokem +35

    I wonder how much having Tom in the car as a passenger affected the tests. Being inside of the car, of course he wouldn't add any direct wind resistance, but I would think his additional weight would affect drag. Likely more than the GoPros, I'd think.

    • @abydosianchulac2
      @abydosianchulac2 Před rokem +10

      It would have been interesting since they'd have had the info from the run with the camera operator and equipment in the back, too, so they'd know how much he affected the run as well.

    • @toneddef
      @toneddef Před rokem +2

      Perhaps they were doing a loaded vs unloaded run, to text the affect of weight. What you don't see are the six loaded suitcases and a bag of sand in the trunk.

    • @geoffroi-le-Hook
      @geoffroi-le-Hook Před rokem

      did we see him outside the car during a test at all ?

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 Před rokem +1

      Tom being in the car would also add 70 kilograms of mass, which means that the car will coast for longer.
      Tom being in the car probably both negatively, as well as positively affected the test.

  • @billyruss
    @billyruss Před rokem +2

    Walked through that tunnel back in the 1970s. Amazing piece of engineering.

  • @belg4mit
    @belg4mit Před rokem +20

    I like this. Where possible, consider doing more "actually use the facility in some way", even if it is to test something silly.

  • @bastiaan1150
    @bastiaan1150 Před rokem +7

    Fantastic approach to measurements!

  • @DirkFedermann
    @DirkFedermann Před rokem +6

    That reminds me of (and I had to look it up) the Laurel Hill Tunnel, where a Racing Team bought(?) the tunnel and used it to develop a race car in (almost) complete secrecy.

    • @gordonrichardson2972
      @gordonrichardson2972 Před rokem +2

      Was that a race car that only goes in a straight line?

    • @otterylexa4499
      @otterylexa4499 Před rokem +2

      @@gordonrichardson2972 I think it might have been a racecar that only turns left.

  • @giraffon5487
    @giraffon5487 Před rokem +3

    It was a really good tunnel indeed

  • @goatcat2737
    @goatcat2737 Před rokem +9

    Ok I love the tunnel but I want to hear more about the bat hotel at the end?

  • @Esperologist
    @Esperologist Před rokem +3

    2:47 - Impressed me that you had to say the line about the camera operator not being in the back twice... to be able to get the shot from the camera operator of you saying that line to blend with the shot from the dash of you saying that line.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Před rokem

      Haha! But I think there's a boring explanation: There was probably a camera stuck to the rear window or something.

  • @AdemOmerovicBA
    @AdemOmerovicBA Před rokem +2

    0:41 oh bro, the fact that you had to make that disclaimer 😅🗺️

  • @DaHaiZhu
    @DaHaiZhu Před rokem +4

    I really appreciate that they were environmentally conscious enough to provide Bat Houses for those they displaced by the reconstruction. 👍👍👍

    • @aim-to-misbehave5674
      @aim-to-misbehave5674 Před rokem +1

      It's actually a legal requirement! Bats are a protected species, and you can face fines (up to £5k per bat) and jail time (up to 6 months) for disturbing their nesting sites, blocking entrances etc

  • @HowlParanormal
    @HowlParanormal Před rokem +5

    We have one of these in Pennsylvania at the abandoned turnpike. They used F1 vehicles in it for testing .

  • @commodoresixfour7478
    @commodoresixfour7478 Před rokem +3

    Everything about this is cool. Including a old historic tunnel still being used and the fact they still care about the bats.

  • @simonjohncasey
    @simonjohncasey Před rokem +2

    I love the concept of taking something from history and using it for advanced science

    • @simonjohncasey
      @simonjohncasey Před rokem +1

      I actually watched their marketing video on CZcams and their tagline is “The future is here, and it’s 125 years old” 😊

  • @LittleMountain90
    @LittleMountain90 Před rokem +3

    I was not ready for the phrase "Austin Powers 37-point turn" midway through the video 😂

  • @DrBluefox
    @DrBluefox Před rokem +7

    This is how you make an empty tunnel interesting

  • @RayquaSr.
    @RayquaSr. Před rokem +3

    Tom, bustinh through the door shoort of breath, "I just found a really cool tunnel"
    Every sane human on earth, " I'm listening".

  • @xxcarlos505
    @xxcarlos505 Před rokem +2

    Bruh... Tom, your about to hit 6 MIL. Keep up the great work!

  • @Oba936
    @Oba936 Před rokem

    I really love it, when you show us the bits in the video where you are just happy about timing and such.

  • @mheermance
    @mheermance Před rokem +6

    The tunnel has bats and a turntable. It is obviously a superhero lair.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Před rokem +1

      Ooh! Yes, it must be! 😂 (by the way, it's "lair")

    • @mheermance
      @mheermance Před rokem +1

      @@eekee6034 thanks for pointing it out. I fixed it.

  • @jimbob3332
    @jimbob3332 Před rokem +5

    What, no footage of the bat hotel?

  • @riaan6960
    @riaan6960 Před rokem

    7:14 i love you for writing the camera costs for all the people in EU, UK and USA even though its exactly the same just different units.

  • @ham1672
    @ham1672 Před rokem +2

    There's also another nice abandoned train tunnel up in Market Harborough, which is now a walk and bike trail.

  • @noelward8047
    @noelward8047 Před rokem +1

    This is intriguing.
    I have spent many hours in wind tunnels investigating things such as wind noise in vehicles.

  • @minprez
    @minprez Před rokem +8

    yesterday i didn't know that it would cost you roughly 10 cents per 100 miles in added fuel consumption if you stick a go-pro to a car. but today i do, this is knowledge that I will carry with me for the rest of my life (or until gas prices change)

  • @spokehedz
    @spokehedz Před rokem +1

    I love that there is a constant "Oh, of course! Right! [you make the connection] That would make a difference!" in this whole video. Even the little thing for the turntable and the remote button, you'd think might not make a difference, but then they talk about the ICE versus the EV and then my brain goes:
    "Oh, of course! Right! That burns fuel... And if they had to turn around the car that would be wasted fuel. And now the turntable is the same time/distance between each run, so you eliminate one more potential variation. The remote is nice and flashy, but even getting out of the car to hit a button would add more time/variables to the overall data... That would make a difference!"

  • @DigitalDiabloUK
    @DigitalDiabloUK Před rokem +1

    Id heard about this a few months ago; great to see Tom give more details.

  • @Craig-wp3pz
    @Craig-wp3pz Před rokem +6

    Always thought it was still disused, I often stare at the very fine ventilation towers by the A5 and M45

  • @swampieryan5234
    @swampieryan5234 Před rokem +4

    I think Motorway Shenanigans posted this tunnel before! I was confused because his style is similar to yours

  • @TrafficCamWatch
    @TrafficCamWatch Před rokem +1

    What a great video to show to TV networks that want to shove a camera to the outside of a race car during qualifying or a race as if it is "no big deal". It is.

  • @yikes6758
    @yikes6758 Před rokem +1

    "we don't want to see the camera operator in the back, because he's... not there" was such a simple trick but it still got me. unmatched video editing
    the fact that you were doing that line in both shots must have been really funny for the shot where the camera operator was actually there

    • @smeeself
      @smeeself Před rokem

      Are you sure that there ever was a cameraman? 😮

  • @SirGreyOfPoopyLand
    @SirGreyOfPoopyLand Před rokem +5

    That's one cool tunnel.

  • @tau9956
    @tau9956 Před rokem +17

    Toms recent interests in tunnels and trains is interesting 😂

  • @Nyerguds
    @Nyerguds Před rokem +2

    I agree. This turntable really needed Thunderbirds music.

  • @DaLoveDonkey69420
    @DaLoveDonkey69420 Před rokem +1

    Love every video Tom!! One of my favorite journalist! Thankyou for everything you do!