I"m having some troubles following the review/scoring system. With the old one it was pretty easy to follow. It felt like the bonus point balanced out the availability/price of a whiskey. You also had it presented out step by step how you got there in the review, I could track it more easily. I could see "oh this offering is close in score to a more rare/expensive whiskey because of the bonus point" but, I could then infer that it was actually a bigger difference between the two(after subtracting the bonus point). Of a quick glance in the new system it looks like "value" is only up to.5? meaning rare whiskeys should be much higher of a score than the previous system of scoring. Here is why I'm confused (if you care). The review model is this: 1. Start with the good, bad, and really bad. 2. Quickly show the 10 categories of how you rate whiskey 3. Present the score. I miss the actually meat of a review, which is usually done with, nose, pallet, and finish( or now the 10 categories). I don't get the pie chart broken down step by step. Without this data it'a hard to discern why you would pay $200 for a 7.8 bourbon or how you really got to the score you present. More time is spent in the macro of the whiskey, then the micro. I would recommend when you use the good, bad, and really bad to pick the categories it excels in. You would do the 1st segment but the format would be picking the 2 or maybe 3 categories that it was highest(or worst) in, and talking about why it did that so well, then repeat that for the other 2( bad and really bad). At the end you then present the final scores each person gave it. It would make following along much easier, and as a viewer I could track what makes this whiskey different or special. I would have a better idea of how you feel about, while maintaining the suspense till the end when the score is presented. Cheers!
The old way was easier to follow. We don't see the breakdown of the 10 categories so I am sometimes confused how to got to your score. However, ER17 is a good dram so I get that a score of 80ish is fair. 71 is wild lol.
Thank you for including the "What would you pay" section. Since you can't judge value based on MSRP for these unicorns. It's nice to hear a realistic secondary value. Don't be afraid to go below MSRP if it is garbage. A request: Can you please do a video where Dillon blind tastes various pours at different Proof's. Let's see if he really is the proof snob. Can you get him to prefer a nice bourbon at a lower proof over a lesser one at a higher proof? Also, how about every once in a while you update us with a summary of scores you've given to bottles?
They raise the proof to 101 in commemoration of an anniversary of a special release of eagle rare from back in the 60s or 70s or something that was 101 proof
What’s the point for Buffalo Trace to announce how much evaporation there was and how many bottles they produced? Solely to drive the hysteria over the brand without pumping out a ton of marketing dollars.
Glad you guys are semi-back! Bold move on changing the rating system, I think it is a bit too complex, though. But who knows, maybe it'll grow on me. Only criticism: y'all should've kept the old name, it was perfect.
So glad you guys are back! Missed you all! Also, just to contradict Dutch saying a 17 year Mashbill #1 is unique....EHT 18 Year marriage? Not exact, but similar age. Not to say that any of us mere mortals will ever be able to obtain ER17 OR EHT18
Agree with Dillon, I also shy away from Eagle Rare 10yo, I’ve had more bad batches than good batches & at that price I’d rather have Rare Breed or Russels Reserve, at least I’m guaranteed an awesome pour. Also think your score truly represent the offering, well done!
Pausing the video at 'If I had to drink Eagle Rare, this is what I would drink'. Wouldn't we all? Dillon snobbery is a 9 out of 10 in this one but wouldn't have it any other way. :) Never tried it, probably never will but it's gotta be pretty good. Great video guys!
Wow- quite a difference between this review and Bourbon Junkies. Since I will never see this bottle in real life I wonder which review more accurately reflects this unicorn..
Dutch and Jules during pre-show warm-up: Dutch - "Jules, I know you're bright, funny, expressive and not as handsome as me, but your flavor descriptives like 'flavor town' and 'cola' are - how do I say this - very low brow for a classy-ass show like mine - uh - ours..." Jules - "Okay Mister Supercuts, I will NOT describe today's imbibement as neither. Maybe words like 'nuance' might fill the bill. BUT - YOU must perform a favor in return or we have NO agreement, my weak-wristed pouring-fail emoji. You must diss the poster boy of arrogance into such shame, that his scrotum retracts into his earlobes. Deal?" Dutch - "Deal. Uh, don't mind the hand mirror - I'm just readjusting my pirate hat and pompadour." Dillon - "I mean when I talked to him, I said, 'Can you please raise the proof? That these are very very weak. Do you think you could raise - you know, bump it up a notch?' Do you think he uh, actually answered the call?" Dutch - "No. I don't think he remembers you at all actually." Jules - Chuckles as giant thought bubble appears above his head - "ZING! WOW - did I just see Dillon's earlobes explode?!"
The really good barrels are getting special bottlings, special releases... all overhyped, and all becoming way over priced... These youtube channels have unequivocally made a scarcity in bottles of good juice that would otherwise be on the shelf for those that enjoy the flavors, and not relegated to some stash in a mancave for bragging rights... Seems to me, even some special bottlings as of late are really sub par, of both bourbons and ryes..
Can you get Dillon to do a review of regular eagle rare ;-)
Oh I've missed Sir Dillon
I"m having some troubles following the review/scoring system. With the old one it was pretty easy to follow. It felt like the bonus point balanced out the availability/price of a whiskey. You also had it presented out step by step how you got there in the review, I could track it more easily. I could see "oh this offering is close in score to a more rare/expensive whiskey because of the bonus point" but, I could then infer that it was actually a bigger difference between the two(after subtracting the bonus point). Of a quick glance in the new system it looks like "value" is only up to.5? meaning rare whiskeys should be much higher of a score than the previous system of scoring.
Here is why I'm confused (if you care). The review model is this:
1. Start with the good, bad, and really bad.
2. Quickly show the 10 categories of how you rate whiskey
3. Present the score.
I miss the actually meat of a review, which is usually done with, nose, pallet, and finish( or now the 10 categories). I don't get the pie chart broken down step by step. Without this data it'a hard to discern why you would pay $200 for a 7.8 bourbon or how you really got to the score you present. More time is spent in the macro of the whiskey, then the micro. I would recommend when you use the good, bad, and really bad to pick the categories it excels in. You would do the 1st segment but the format would be picking the 2 or maybe 3 categories that it was highest(or worst) in, and talking about why it did that so well, then repeat that for the other 2( bad and really bad). At the end you then present the final scores each person gave it. It would make following along much easier, and as a viewer I could track what makes this whiskey different or special. I would have a better idea of how you feel about, while maintaining the suspense till the end when the score is presented.
Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback!
Agree, simplify the scoring
The old way was easier to follow. We don't see the breakdown of the 10 categories so I am sometimes confused how to got to your score. However, ER17 is a good dram so I get that a score of 80ish is fair. 71 is wild lol.
Agree with these comments. I love these videos and they honestly make my day when they drop. Please keep up the excellent work!
Honestly the old format was perfect. Especially the haggling/calibration part; that was half the fun of the episodes.
Your old format and scoring system surpasses this one by a fair amount.
Thank you for including the "What would you pay" section. Since you can't judge value based on MSRP for these unicorns. It's nice to hear a realistic secondary value. Don't be afraid to go below MSRP if it is garbage. A request: Can you please do a video where Dillon blind tastes various pours at different Proof's. Let's see if he really is the proof snob. Can you get him to prefer a nice bourbon at a lower proof over a lesser one at a higher proof? Also, how about every once in a while you update us with a summary of scores you've given to bottles?
Thanks for the recommendation of testing Dillon! Also, we've got some stuff planned regarding our scores and overall rankings, etc.... Stay tuned....
@@CuriosityPublic Don't tell Dillon that he's being tested. He might break out the slide rule he carries under his propeller beanie. 😉
I enjoy your channel. Thank you. I have a question. Where is Ben from your old channel?
Dillan is getting so cranky in his old age. I watched the bourbon guild video on 2017 eagle rare 17 (at 90 proof) he loved it and gave it 9/10
They raise the proof to 101 in commemoration of an anniversary of a special release of eagle rare from back in the 60s or 70s or something that was 101 proof
Elijah Craig barrel proof review please!?
Still waiting for the wild turkey drink through
YESSS FEELS LIKE IVE BEEN WAITING FOR MONTHS FOR A NEW VID! THANK YOU GUYS 🙏🏻
Man how did you guys go from 9.0 back in 2018 to 77 today. Where's that consistency, Dillon?!
RIP ben
Jules, you would pay $250 for a bourbon you rated 71???
The 2109 release. You guys really have the hookup somewhere. 😂
Gooddamn click bait got me too!
Living for that “Sir Dillon” throwback music drop in there😂
What happened to the Bourbon Guild and that other Bakersfield Butcher dude?
Somebody pulled a pedro pascal
What’s the point for Buffalo Trace to announce how much evaporation there was and how many bottles they produced? Solely to drive the hysteria over the brand without pumping out a ton of marketing dollars.
Glad you guys are semi-back! Bold move on changing the rating system, I think it is a bit too complex, though. But who knows, maybe it'll grow on me. Only criticism: y'all should've kept the old name, it was perfect.
Ben's favorite LOL I remember that bottle
So glad you guys are back! Missed you all! Also, just to contradict Dutch saying a 17 year Mashbill #1 is unique....EHT 18 Year marriage? Not exact, but similar age. Not to say that any of us mere mortals will ever be able to obtain ER17 OR EHT18
Agree with Dillon, I also shy away from Eagle Rare 10yo, I’ve had more bad batches than good batches & at that price I’d rather have Rare Breed or Russels Reserve, at least I’m guaranteed an awesome pour. Also think your score truly represent the offering, well done!
We find Eagle Rare kind of boring, also Buffalo Trace and Basil Haden. Not bad just kind of flat!
Agree with you
But for $30 a ten year old basically single barrel is great value....the regular eagle rare I mean
Where is the other fella at.
Would love to see a battle between ER17 and WT Master's Keep BiB 17.
Where in southern California are you guys based? I'm in orange county
Pausing the video at 'If I had to drink Eagle Rare, this is what I would drink'. Wouldn't we all? Dillon snobbery is a 9 out of 10 in this one but wouldn't have it any other way. :) Never tried it, probably never will but it's gotta be pretty good. Great video guys!
Thanks for the review
Great video! More clarity on the scoring would be great as the other commenter noted. Also a master list of all scores somewhere (excel, etc).?
I watched this video while I'm at work. I should have waited until I got home so I can enjoy this video with a bourbon and a cigar #missedopportunity
Wow- quite a difference between this review and Bourbon Junkies. Since I will never see this bottle in real life I wonder which review more accurately reflects this unicorn..
Dutch and Jules during pre-show warm-up:
Dutch - "Jules, I know you're bright, funny, expressive and not as handsome as me, but your flavor descriptives like 'flavor town' and 'cola' are - how do I say this - very low brow for a classy-ass show like mine - uh - ours..."
Jules - "Okay Mister Supercuts, I will NOT describe today's imbibement as neither. Maybe words like 'nuance' might fill the bill. BUT - YOU must perform a favor in return or we have NO agreement, my weak-wristed pouring-fail emoji. You must diss the poster boy of arrogance into such shame, that his scrotum retracts into his earlobes. Deal?"
Dutch - "Deal. Uh, don't mind the hand mirror - I'm just readjusting my pirate hat and pompadour."
Dillon - "I mean when I talked to him, I said, 'Can you please raise the proof? That these are very very weak. Do you think you could raise - you know, bump it up a notch?' Do you think he uh, actually answered the call?"
Dutch - "No. I don't think he remembers you at all actually."
Jules - Chuckles as giant thought bubble appears above his head - "ZING! WOW - did I just see Dillon's earlobes explode?!"
The good: you guys give honest reviews
The bad: you guys get unicorns at decent prices. Totally annoying.
The really good barrels are getting special bottlings, special releases... all overhyped, and all becoming way over priced... These youtube channels have unequivocally made a scarcity in bottles of good juice that would otherwise be on the shelf for those that enjoy the flavors, and not relegated to some stash in a mancave for bragging rights... Seems to me, even some special bottlings as of late are really sub par, of both bourbons and ryes..
Get Ben back on and let Dillion set it out. Dillion picks Eagle rare in a blind test.
Dillion name better bourbons.
Easily the most bias review you have ever done.. I feel sorry for the bottle at this point lol.
Dillon can't stand Eagle Rare LOL we already knew that LOL
Except when he tries it in a blind tasting and gives it high scores. Ouch! Yep, I remember that video.
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