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I love how your Gf and dog are in the back just chill as you work….that’s quality family time😊
Didn't even notice that.
That was basically the only thing I noticed
@@die.deprimiert.bean4 I knew to look for it cause she actually there pretty often. I'm a little worried she may be bed ridden.
For real I was like ayo bruh you got uh.. you got someone behind you. 😂, at least she was like oh your gonna do a video? Okay cool I’ll just chill right here
Its a family past time
The best part about this; Tobirama, who allegedly "hated" the Uchiha, his grandson has a sharingan. Maybe not the best part but still a nice little nod
I imagine the afterlife with Tobirama going on a scolding spree on Sakumo just scolding him till he dies again
Tobirama didn’t hate the uchiha but he didn’t trust them, they killed most of his family and they’re run by their emotions. But he did especially hate Madara, also he saw right through madara and tried to warn hashirama but even though hashirama is incredibly strong, he’s dumb as a rock and tobirama just had to sit back and watch madara try and plot shit,
Kakashi isn’t his grandson, this is literally just a theory because they have white hair. Kakashi’s chakra reserves are nowhere near a Senju’s
@@horsekfobster7823The only reason why his chakra reserves are low is because of his sharingan his chakra reserves are much higher when he loses his sharingan it’s even shown in kakashi retsuden but ur right it is just a theory
The other funny thing about this is that Tobirama didn't want the Senju to appear as a ruling class, but if you include kakashi that's 4 senju hokage, 5/6 if you include minato/naruto, but that's a separate theory and naruto is so mixed at that point.
I honestly really like this theory because it ties into why konoha has so many super strong no name people, like namikaze, hatake, etc. Theyre probably closely related to a higher level senju that cast off their name in their integration. For all we know minato could be the son or grandson of the 3rd ranking senju after tobirama, explaining his chakra pools
I always just assumed Minato was super efficient with his chakra control, basically like grown up male Sakura with sealing jutsu
Namikaze is a Senju that's clear very well
One thing that might support this is the fact Kakashi can use Water Style without a water source something that is super uncommon and hints at a strong Water affinity which would makes sense if he was the Grandson of Tobirama
Everybody does that. It was only mentioned one time during the konoha crush arc because Masashi kishimoto was trying to hype the second hokage.
@@itsmesteve1081 Not many people do it actually only really high level water style users
Lol so can Boruto nowadays
@@larryfoster8820 yeah but boruto is haxed
Shariggan?
Sakumo Hatakae: One of the few characters in Naruto we know the least about. Yet still has more screen time than Ten Ten
😂🤣😂😂🤣🤦🏾
That’s just not true. And I’m no ten ten fan. Joke wasn’t even funny. Could have said more useful than Sakura
@@thc-thehiddenclout2263 go somewhere no one was talking to u
@@johncoffin7073 touchy youth. Go hug a tree. Peace be with u
@@johncoffin7073 mad?
I just realized how humble Tsunade was as a Hokage and as Senju royalty to dress the way she she did as Hokage
Kakashi being the grandson of Tobirama would be dope!
That would be super dope❗ right🌟✌❗❓
I’ve always loved the theory that kakashi is related to tobirama.
Your name is making me wonder about your home situation. You good?
@@TheNewblade1
I’m fine.
@@TheNewblade1 Stop I spit my juice out at this comment 🤣😂🤣🤦🏾
@@Sakura_uchiha_elite this one with the simple period at the end makes me laugh too
Senju = thousand skills
Kakashi of the thousand jutsu
I can see the resemblance
Well thats not why kakashi got that name
@@basicsay2909 Yeah, but it's a cool parallel
Yoo
He even invents his own special jutsu
I don't think he has that nickname, but he knows a lot of jutsus.
Finally someone is acknowledging how weird Madara and Hashirama were with each other😅 Hashirama did not seem shocked to see his face on Madara’s chest.
That's because his face had already been on Madara's chest many times before
Madara is definitely no stranger to Hashirama's cells
@@MKW288lmaoooooooooooooooooo
@@soyjoyyyou reckon he a (power) bottom
@@soyjoyy yeah, where do you think he got all them from?
I think a prequel of Naruto would have been great, we could of learned alot about The White Fang of the Leaf (Sakumo Hatake), How did Hashirama obtain sage mode, What happened to the Uzumaki Clan after the massacare, So many mysteries that weren't solved.
I read this somewhere on the internet that Hashirama learned his sage mode on his own. Nobody taught him.
Since he mastered wood release which is the combination of Earth and Water release he became a living vessel of gathering Nature energy. Because wood is basically Nature itself and thus making his body naturally suitable to absorb and balance Nature energy. That's probably why he can switch to sage mode instantly.
Although this is just a theory, I am still gonna stick with it cause this is Hashirama we are talking about. I can totally see him mastering Sage mode on his own.
Facts man!! If they did a naruto prequel ending at night of the nine tail attack it would have been lit. Somewhere throwing in the Red clouds “Ataksui” but we get the Sanin journey get to see prime 3rd hokage we could see all the legends an how they became legendary. It’s not to late though
Hashirama was born with sage mode through his special cells. His cells are made of nature energy. His body
Yes bro. prequel over this boruto bs they got going on rn. Like i wanna see the live of Minato and more about anbu kakashi. Like i feel like Minato or kakashi could have their own show and be the main character for real. Like kakashis show could start as him like becoming a chunin and the last episode would be him walking down the hallway to meet team 7 and getting hit with the eraser. Like the nostalgia!!! Uhhhg
@@GreenTea1493 honestly I want to have a prequel abt the warring states period.
I love this theory.
Evidence for last name change; Naruto taking his mothers last name. Makes sense to hide someone from the knowledge of others.
So how would Mirai be able to use her father's last name even though Asuma was killed before she was born.
@@TheFarix2723 no need to hide her bloodline really.
@@R21king There would be more of a need to hide an Uzumaki than a "Namikaze" One is a clan that we know could make seals that can completely disable tailed beasts and their jinchuuriki (basically a nuke in the Naruto-verse) and the other is an orphans last name, yes, said orphan was super overpowered and recreated the Flying Raijin, but at the end of the day it's still a random person that was only really strong because they had a good teacher and was very smart with no special abilities in their blood. If you said his name was hidden because of enemies you're just wrong, Sarutobi had his grandson literally walking around the village and he was hokage for 50+ years, definitely had shit tons of enemies.
Edit: This would be the same case with Mirai AND Konohamaru they are the grandchildren of Sarutobi Hiruzen, the 3rd Hokage and the 3rd God of Shinobi, (Sage of Six Paths, Hashirama, Hiruzen) Why would you not hide that if you want to hide Minato's last name? he was the 4th person to get a run on sight order {headcanon} --> (yes its said somewhere that he was the first person ever, but there is no way hes getting a run on sight order when Madara, Hashirama or Hiruzen never get one) and was the 4th Hokage
But also Kiba, presumably, has his mother's last name. Unless the Inuzukas are like the Uchihas and the Hyuugas and just intermarry - but I'm not sure that's necessarily true.
@@ChristieLily35 This could support my theory as well though, Kiba's father could be a random civilian or a random Ninja we never hear about, and since his family has no real value, Kibas last name is Inuzuka, and I doubt his father is so special that he needs to take his mother's last name for presumed "enemies" it is also said at one point in the anime (I think) that Kibas father just ran away.
Love how man's girl is just chilling in the back while he nerds out😂
Kishi didn't give us family trees because the Hyuga's and Uchihas would just be straight lines
No wonder there families were fucked up.
No, they'd probably be like a nice circular pattern with lots of cousins. more like a shrub than a tree.
It's giving British monarchy
Sweeet home alabama
Madara isn't straight, neither is hashirama 😏
I think it makes even more symbolic sense (in a "this is a stretch" kinda way). The senju and uchia are linked forever through hashirama and madara. Two friends from waring clans who couldn't see eye to eye. The entire goal of the senju would be to dissolve themselves and other clans and integrate into the village like you said. That would mean children with multiple clans abilities. What is a more symbolic than a decendent of the senju (kakashi) to inherit a sharingan from an uchia (obito). I imagine you would be able to explain this better but it helps this idea of kakashi being the grandson of tobirama
makes total sense why the rivalry was so inescpable too... plus, if i may add (and yes, this is a stretch) it also makes madaras worst fear, a reality... a lineage of hokages tracing its roots to senju ----if we assume minato was dan and tsunades son, and kakashi being a senju grandkid
I mean, it’s basically Madara’s fault there was a long line of Senju Hokage. If he hadn’t betrayed Hashirama, it’s highly likely he could have become the 3rd.
So if this theory was correct as well as the theory that Minato is Tsunade's son that would mean 6/7 of the Hokage are direct lineage of the Senju lol
And the only one who isn't Senju was trained by Tobirama, damn the Senju really became the elite class of Konoha
Ashura effect
I love Naruto as art but after the Naruto underdog or not discourse a few years ago I realized Naruto is basically neo-feudalist liberal propaganda.
I'd like a back in forth, all I'm saying is Naruto's subtext is harmful to a democratic society because it teaches the idea that only the strong can make meaningful change, strong people are always and only descendents of other strong people and strong people are strong because it is there birthright.
In other words unless your dads dad was not a king or a god your gonna be a peasant.
You know that elite Senju line Madara was worried about? He may have had a point there. Because even if Minato isn't Tsunade's son, he was trained by Jiraiya who was trained by Hiruzen. They're all connected in some way.
@@ferm721 why would that be an odd thing? Konoha has only been around for like 80 or so years so it would make sense that the best were trained by the best or related to them
I read a lot of comments saying that Kakashi has low chakra but for me, for a non-Uchiha shinobi to able to use the sharingan in considerable amounts of time means he got a lot of chakra. This is on top of him using Ninjutsu while using sharingan. That for me means he gots lots of chakra. That probably helped by having a BIT of the Senju DNA. An ordinary shinobi from a no-name clan or bloodline can't do that.
Actually his eye drains his Chakra literally 24/7 because he can't deactivate it. Which is why he's described and even tells naruto mid-shippuden that naruto has around 4× the amount of Chakra he(Kakashi) does, note he's saying he has 4x the amount of Chakra while his Chakra is being drained 24/7, in fact after losing his sharingan and shown when he's a kid without sharingan he has enormous Chakra reserves. You can reference Kakashi's light novel(at the end he creates a purple lightning jutsu that covers the whole sky. I forget what novel this next piece of info comes from but kakashi also between Naruto Shippuden and Boruto actually builds a mud wall around an entire village/town, holds it up for 2 days straight while fighting enemies the entire time. Aside from losing Kamui and being more Genjutsu sensitive now, Kakashi still knows his 1,000+ jutsu without his Chakra cap(the sharingan), giving him roughly an amount of Chakra comparable to 3/4of narutos(guesstimate) and his jutsu can now be produced on a much larger(kage+) level since the sharingan isn't consistently sucking away his Chakra 24 hours a day. People say he was the weakest kage, but in fact thanks to losing his sharingan I'd put him right there with the 3rd hokage, only behind(imo) the Naruto,1st,3rd, and maybe 2nd hokage. What do you think?
@NCHammer23 what do u think of this?
Which idiots are saying kakashi has low chakra 😂😂😂 yeah sure he doesn't have Naruto Minato or Sasuke level chakra but compared to average jonins he has tanks full of chakra his sharingan is constantly in need of chakra (he can't deactivate it) and still uses s rank ninjutsu casts gen jutsu by war arc uses ms multiple times used multiple high level ninjutsu at a very young age can fight for hours (gets bedridden) but that's mostly when he overuse his sharingan never saw him getting tired using jutsus without needing much of sharingan and after loosing his sharingan it is said he can fight hundreds if not thousands at once and can make walls on a village scale
Perhaps it's implied that he has less than an Uchiha, or that his chakra depletes faster when using a Sharingan because he isn't an Uchiha
The irony of Kakashi having the sharingan 😂
1st Hokage ----> 5th Hokage, 2nd Hokage---->6th Hokage, 4th Hokage--->7th Hokage (Raised by the 3rd Hokage which was taught by the 2nd Hokage). 1st and 7th Hokage were both reincarnation of Asura. Seems to me like that Senju ruling class was real.
or better known as dictatorship
We need Sarada Hokage to change this!!
@@saniathite9793 I agree with you 100%.
And the 3rd will be related to the 8th (Konohamaru)
Naruto is an Uzumaki, even though both clans were in close relationship, they were still two separated clans, and Minato was from Namikaze which didn't had anything to do with Senju.
So it's not really a Senju ruling class.
Speaking of Tobirama and swords, he is the primary wielder of The Sword of The Thunder God
Did he just say Hashirama was secretly sleeping with Madara? Ayo
I’ve only watched the series 5 times. Must have missed it
yeah I heard that too ans scoured the comments to make sure I wasn't crazy lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏾🥳😯 went in on hashirama lmao 🤣 gay fighters lovers quarrel
10:17 Jesus, that's a violation
When a child is born and the father isn't around/alive then the mother's maiden name is effective, such as, Naruto Uzumaki rather than his father's last name.
That could be the reason why Kakashi and his father do not have the Senju last name when Tobirama was KIA.
Kakashi would’ve awaken rinnegan at the end of shippuden if he had senju blood
@@jarey9222 no awakening rinnegan isn’t done by having senju n uchiha blood it’s by having asura n indra otsutsuki chakra like specifically them. Think about it obito had hashirama cells implanted into his body but never awakened a rinnegan of his own he used nagato’s well, madara’s rinnegan in the war arc
@@Uchiha_Teivan 🎯🥂
no. naruto was named uzumaki to hide his identity as the 4th hokages son. it was not because minato wasnt around. both of his parents died at the same time.
I know this might seem like a stretch, but Kushina died a few minutes or seconds after Minato, because Minato was already dead when she told the third hokage that her son's name is Naruto.
His dog did an human-beast transformation jutsu and now he is a pretty egirl, lmao
I thought only i noticed that
Why aren't people talking about this?
They're both seen together.
Actually the dog lays next to her in the video
@@user-mh9dx7nz2r it uses shadow clone jutsu too, omg, amazing 🤩
Something I know about Japan is that at one point in time (and possibly still), it was customary for a spouses to take the name of the family with the more prestigious social standing. Usually this was done to keep family businesses in the family, so a businessman with no sons would arrange for one of his daughters to be married to a capable man of less social standing so as to "gain a son," and he would take the wife's family name.
So it's not crazy to believe that, since the Senju wanted to strengthen the bonds of the various clans of the village, that despite they're clan's renown they would all "marry into" the various clans of the village, thereby raising the power and prestige of the village as a whole.
I always assumed the Hatake weren't a clan. Kind of like how the Haruno isn't a clan. Yet both families birthed really good Shinobi.
It would explain why we only ever hear about Sakumo and Kakashi. They aren't from a clan but from a single village family just like how Sakura is the only Haruno we hear about outside of her parents who just live life as normal people.
Wait the Haruno clan only has Sakura, no?
Haha comparing the Haruno to the hatake, this mofos got jokes, good shit
@astroo no I know she wasn’t born from air lol. I’m asking we’re they “really good shinobi”? I have never once heard of that clan having even one other ninja at all
I think they explained that training ninja from a young age was necessary for their chakra control to be proficient, otherwise they'd be competing with Ichiraku Ramen and getting stepped on by a giant fox.
@@necessaryevile nah, they don't compare, but what I'm saying is that I think the Hatake are a family but not a clan. Just like how the harunos are a family, not a clan.
This theory would make Kakashis sharingan a lot more interesting
Yo, I think you might be up to something Nick. Your theory checks out, especially considering Tobirama wanted to mix the Senju blood with other clans. Could that also be the influence behind White Fang's decision to find a wife (Kakashi's mom) outside of the village?
It would explain Kakashi's intelligence, adaptability in combat, and his godly chakra reserves
Or just alternatively about the last name.
Only Hashiramas family keeps the Senju name. Branch families establish a new last name and new clan. This was a thing among Japanese Clans of great prominence. So Tobirama established the Hatake.
Didn’t realize the dog and girl on the floor until halfway through lol… I feel blind xD
Me too
If that's true, that just further proves neji's speech during the chunin exams. All kage the village has ever had are all pre destined to be hokage in some way 🤣
I feel bad for that girl trying to sleep when he starts talking into the camera. 😂
Sakomo (or sakumo idk) is probably tobirama's grandchild because tsunade and sakomo were roughly about the same age (tsunade = hashirama's grandchild)
Sakumo way younger
@@Solkage885 um... actually no. I can understand where ur coming from but let's say that the three sanin were like in their 30s, maaaybe 40 if you really wanna make tsunade mad but when he was compared to the sanin and like fought hanzo he was also like 30 years old. Not to mention kakashi and minato's age difference was like 11 and so was Jiraya and minato. and 11+11+ kakashi's age which was 13 so = 35 years old when he commited scuicide and SO WAS KAKASHI WHEN HE """"DIED"""" and sakumo said that they were kinda the same age when they """died""" and so were the sanin. Is this reasonable enough for you?
The Hatake are presumably related to the Inazuma clan, Sakumo being White "Fang", Kakashi's nose, and summoning hounds.
The only thing I would say to dispute this is the fact that kakashi doesn’t have the largest chakra pool, which is a common trait of the senju, and even if it’s not his direct descendant I do think he’d have a larger pool. But honestly that’s the only disproof I have of it, otherwise the theories all make sense. I don’t know if this was something kishimoto planned but he would definitely benefit on making it canon lol
I'd prefer if it really was an unknown clan, that way it keeps the idea that anyone can be a powerful ninja regardless. Though it'd be cool that everyone is connected but on the other hand it'd be better if everyone through hard work can be strong.
I fucking LOVE the Sakamo content ❤️ I’ve been wanting this shit for literally years lmao. Stronger than all 3 of the Sannin?? He didn’t get brought back for the 4th war even though that would have RUINED Kakashi considerng Zabuza and Hali messed him up. (I know he wasn’t in the pure lands and all and that makes perfect sense but it’s not like Kishimoto is known for NOT pulling shit out of his ass lmao). Thanks so much for these videos dude, I get so goddamn excited every single time I see a new one
I like this theory, but one point against it is that when Kakashi was training Naruto states that he only has an average amount of chakra. If he was the grandson of Tobirama he would likely have more chakra than your average shinobi.
yeah but couldn’t his sharingan play a factor into that as well?
*_Your girlfriend & dog in the background be like_* : *Ah he is at it again* 😂
I like this idea. As I've just rewatched Naruto, I've been wondering why some people have clans while others seem to be from ordinary citizen families and just so happen to become Shinobi. As a matter of fact, there are only three people in the Konoha 12 that do not have clan names that we are aware of (those being Sakura, Tenten, and Rock Lee). However, if I take your idea into account, then it would make more sense.
Essentially, the "Haruno Clan" doesn't exist because Kizashi Haruno (Sakura's dad) is the son of a Senju who took his wife's last name. Tenten and Rock Lee technically don't have traditional surnames, but I have an idea about this as well. Tenten is likely descended from a Senju couple who simply removed their last names (if your theory is applied), which would explain her talent for sealing jutsu since the Senju and Uzumaki clans were close.
In the case of Rock Lee, I do not believe that he is descended from the Senju at all. Rather, I believe that Lee, Guy, and Dai are all related through something similar to those who followed Ninshu. A grouping of people who were not given chakra and, instead, chose to hone their taijutsu abilities to keep up with the development of ninjutsu and shinobi. In all likelihood, that group was decimated during the warring states era and only a few survived, leaving them no other option than to branch out and go into hiding until a tentative peace was reached. Then they had kids and so on and so on.
I agree with you
I love whenever Nick uploads a new vid. I would like to see some jjk content that would be sick
This would explain even further why he took his own life. He failed Tobirama by acting like Hashirama
Why does no one talk about Kimimaro being a descendant of Kaguya Ototsuki ? He could have learned her bone disintegration and other Abilities! Yet I never see ANYONE talk about it!! Like seriously Kimimaro was definitely linked to them in the first place because of his abilities
I thought it was just assumed that they're related.
Right🤔
I think this is an absolutely cool theory, but I also think there are a few notable flaws with it.
firstly the eye colors. Normally children in Naruto resemble the more important parent in both hair/eye color. (By important I mean as in important for the story) Both Sakumo and Kakashi lack the red eye Tobirama has, unless we count the Sharingan Kakashi obtained through Obito as a hint of some sort.
Secondly and more importantly chakra. Senju are confirmed to have large pools of chakra. While Sakumo's chakra isn't known, we do know Kakashi has a lot less, significantly less for that matter. It's not even close to comparable to a Senju. Chakra is likely one of those things that does get passed down genetically. Since whole clans wouldn't be full of it if it weren't passed down.
That's pretty much it. Besides that they do have a lot of similarities. And I can't see how else Sakumo would even be able to get a piece of a Hokage cloak. It's easily the strongest piece of evidence here that supports the theory. There are significantly more similarities than there are not.
I always speculated Tobi's wife in this instance was secretly an Uchiha so they pulled a hidden sand maneuver and "immigrated" a new clan so as not to cause problems.
My only backings for this is Kakashi taking to Obitos Sharingan reasonably well with lots of training, but not getting it under control fully as he's not its owner nor full blooded, which would explain why he doesn't gets EMS or develop a Sharingan of his own, but is eventually able to use Kamui.
Although another factor that helps this theory (and NChammers) is take a look at Danzo who was only a small step down from Hiruzen in terms of shinobi strength, and what the man had to fuse onto himself just to use a Sharingan for Izanagi. Itachi himself states at one point simply having an eye is not enough, and only Uchiha blood/body has the stamina to withstand the power of their eyes, Yet for all we know Kakashi never had to be grafted Hashirama cells nor any other kind of external aid to use Kamui. Which would at minimum help the idea he already has some Senju in his family tree and/or Just possibly even Uchiha in his lineage.
Wouldn’t it just be a lot simpler that since in this theory kakashi was part senju that would explain how well he was able to use the sharingan.
@@claytredway4501 Kakashi would have Senju in his lineage in either theory?
It’s sad to see how such a powerful and fan favourite character Kakashi lived all his life through pain and yet still smiles
this theory is awesome if it's correct Sakumo followed in Tobiramas footsteps he chose his comrades but the difference is he was not honored like the 2nd and in the end that's what killed him
You can tell his girlfriend is calmed by this mans voice i love it ur a good dude nchammer
If that's correct, then what I've gotten out of this very interesting theory is that Kakashi failed in being blessed with Senju cells because it did not help him one bit in the chakra costs of his Sharingan.
Also he should have technically awoken a rinnengan
I think the opposite. I think it explains why he was so talented with it despite not being Uchiha. Even Itachi was surprised at his level of mastery. The theory isn't saying he had full Hashirama DNA, just that he some watered down Senju blood. I imagine 98% of ninja wouldn't be able to wield a Sharingan at all. Remember that some Uchiha don't even awaken Sharingan.
@@lenazine_forte Nah that's from combining Ashura and Indra chakra, not just any old Senju and Uchiha chakra
@@RockJitsu724 agree 100% ..plus, kakashi being a genius as well as sakumo leads me to believe they have inherited tobiramas IQ
except it kinda does as hes able to use both the sharingan as well as the chidori in battles for a while plus in his fight with pain he uses both often but is still able to hold him back for a fair bit of time.
Big ups to you bro for not taking all the credit. I truly respect that and great content ✊🏾
You really think he would fail to tell us Kakashi was related to the second hokage? Smh 🤣
yea it's such a patently absurd assumption
I love that your girlfriend and doggo are just on the floor chilling while you talk about one of the most illusive and yet profound theories in Naruto😂❤
The theory is not that far. What probably happen is that kishimoto tried to link the character to tobirama but discarded it later on to make room for more of kakashi's story, where the focus is just him and his father. Or kishimoto just forgot that this part of his writing existed.
Timeline doesn't add up because tsunade is the granddaughter hashirama, who is tobirama's senior. Kakashi's teacher was minato. Kakashi's student was minato's son. So, following the same logic tsunade is the same age as jiraya, whom trained minato and minato went to train Kakashi. Age wise that makes jiraya old enough to have fathered Kakashi who is the same age the granddaughter. If anything sakumo would be the grandson of tobirama which aligns perfectly because he'd be slight younger than jiraya and tsunade. Being the generation directly under tsunade's. For example, naruto's to konohamaru's age gap.
@@karmst1996 the tsundade time lines doesnt even add up. hashirama died young and wouldn't have been old enough to have ever interact with her as toddler.
@@odieony7007 i doubt hashirama died young
@@prudenceneverpays tobirama died during first war and was 2nd hokage when he died. Hashirama died at the start of the war or just before. Gaps between wars are supposed to mimic the real world wars is like 30 years.
I came up with this same theory a few weeks ago when thinking about a possible Naruto DnD campaign, just with some slight differences. The main thing being that the seeming disappearance of the Senju is because they married off into the various clans of the hidden leaf to solidify alliances, even the men taking on the other clans family name. Afterwards, there were only a handful of Senju left, and with the 2 strongest Senju gone, they had some infighting about who the new leader of the clan should be. The leaders of these 2 factions were unable to resolve their disputes and decided to split into separate clans with the Tobirama's heirs as their respective leaders. The one faction became the Hatake clan with Sakumo as the clan head. The other faction became the Namikaze clan, with Minato's father being the clan head. The reason for the split being that Minato's father was the older brother and his supporters believed Sakumo was too young and inexperienced. Sakumo's supporters believed it was clear that Sakumo was more talented and strength and talent were most important in choosing a leader and the elders could lead the clan until he came of age. They also feared their enemies would wipe them out since their numbers had dwindled to such an extent and Tobi and Hashi were gone. Also, the flying raijin scroll was left with Minato's father, which is how Minato came across it. Minato's father just wasn't talented enough to figure it out. Not sure how everything lines up but it seemed interesting
I speculate that in the Boruto time jump we'll see a non-Senju-connected character get passed up for Hokage for a Senju-connected character which will spark another Ninja war, or Land of Fire civil war, and unveil the holes in Senju lineage. This could potentially be why we see Boruto and Kawaki fight in the first episode of Boruto, an "other" allowed to live in the Leaf fighting a descendent of the ruling class. I wouldn't be surprised if Kishimoto had this worked to some extent out from the start of Naruto.
Secretly sleeping with him like hashirama was! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's too much to be coincidence. I think we place too much weight in the Sannin and Minato when we consider the strength of other powerful shinobi from Konoha. Sakumo, being about 10 years older than Minato, was considered more powerful than the Sannin during his time. It's arguable that all 3 Sannin became more powerful than Sakumo was by the time they reached the summit of their power, but considering Sakumo couldn't get any stronger due to dying, it's worth considering that Sakumo could have kept growing stronger as well. Just the fact that he resembles Tobirama so heavily while NOBODY else in Konoha does is compelling, let alone his absurd strength, style of fighting, attire, and attitude. The guy chose to save his friends despite the dishonor. Sounds like Hashirama and Tobirama to me.
As far as Minato is concerned, Flying Raijin is what really carried him into the "Run On Sight" level of threat to other villages. Sakumo, however, did not have such an incredibly powerful jutsu in his arsenal that we know of. To achieve the "Run On Sight" level of threat without jutsu like Flying Raijin or kekkei genkai or dojutsu or anything else.... it's kind of absurd. His power must have been so monumental that he was able to rival someone like Minato in battlefield-impact off his kenjutsu and the White Light Chakra Sabre technique. That's bonkers. I'm just imagining Sakumo going all-out and slashing his sword across the battlefield to create something like Gin's zanpakuto from Bleach.
I really imagine Sakumo learning something like the Front Lotus but instead of wrapping up and taking down his enemy, he just extends the Chakra Blade and becomes an enormous blender with his sword just lashing out as he rapidly spins. That's enough theorycrafting from me.
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To me, Tsunade's age kind of disproves this. Tsunade is around the same age as Sakumo, but she is Hashirama's granddaughter, whereas you are saying that Sakumo is Tobirama's son. This would mean that Tobirama would have had a kid around 20+ years after Hashirama. Also keep in mind that Tsunade was born before Hashirama died (at least in the anime, I can't remember if that's cannon in the manga or not). It's certainly possible that Tobirama could have had a child 20 years after Hashirama did, but I think it's pretty darn unlikely. Especially if we consider what you said about people having kids at younger ages.
Ages are probably nothing to go by. See Kakashi/Obito/Rin. There's an age issue with them, too, where Kakashi is either younger than Obito and Rin or there's a huge inconsistency in the manga. I wonder, since nothing is known about the Hatake Clan/Sakumos parents, if it really is meant to be something important - guess authors don't always think that deep with every character. But still, I love this theory, regardless of the flaws as there's a lot that doesn't match up even in canon :/
Oh btw what if he was rather a grandchild of him than a son? Wouldn't that work better? Also, I just came back here after seeing the bottom of Natruto's Hokage cloak. That indeed looks like the sleeve 😂 nvm me, I just started to love the idea of them being related
@@notyourbusiness1626 I still think it would have been mentioned at some point. Why would the series explicitly mention that important characters are descendants of Hokage like Tsunade, Asuma, and Konohamaru, but not mention that an even more important character like Kakashi (and by extension Sakumo) is? It just doesn't make sense.
@@FuckCZcamsAndGoogle agreed. But it's still a nice thought
It really is wild how often Kishimoto withholds lineage information in this series 😂
This theory falls right in line with why Natuot is an Uzumaki and not named Namakazi. Great job. 👍 we also have to remember the Hokahe is previ to have more Intel on the clans. So I don't see this theory being that far off.
Craziest thing about this video is it took me a whole minute to notice the girlfriend laying in bed on the phone 😂😂😂🤣😂
There’s also the whole “kakashi mastering a plethora of jutsus” thing. Which seems to be something that other sharingan users didn’t even do 🤔
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"Maybe because Tobirama was not sleeping with him like Hashirama"😂😂😂 I know it!
I think Jiraiya is also Tobirama kid but he’s probably his Bastard son unlike Sakumo Hatake
Well if that's true, IF ITS TRUE than jiraiya would definitely be the much younger brother than sakumo who would be the older brother.
@@bsinita_wokeone yup, I think Tobirama had Sakumo during the warring States Era and Jiraiya right before the First Great Ninja War
The fact that someone is just sleeping while he is recording it's funny
I wish, but his sharingan would probably have evolved into a rinnegan.
Not necessarily
It probably wouldn’t have, it took madara a very long time to awaken it with both uchiha DNA and senju DNA, obviously not the same amount of senju DNA but still.
@God Valley yes
@God Valley you right
@God Valley i dont by this. doesnt make sense since by all intensive purposes. almost every Otsutsuki has a rinnegan. so why would they need to combine the chakras of people born from a half Otsutsuki. dont make no sense. if thats the case it would make more sense to make it specifically combine the chakra from their ancestors is enough and the other factors are EMS or MS and enough chakra maybe expeirence some trauma or enlighment similar to sharingan awakenings. and madaras(Edo) rinnegan returning in the war arc
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Wouldn’t kakashi of awakened his rinnegan when he had 2 sharingans at the end of shippuden, he would’ve had senju blood from tobirama with 2 sharingans??
no, because the blood isn't directly from the incarnations of Ashura and Indra. If you were correct then every eye on Danzo would've become a rinnegan as well. Madara obtained it because he obtained Hashirama cells and he was the incarnation of Indra
Danzo with a thousand rennigan in his arm, hella OP.
@@ceroluthor great point
@@ceroluthor actually yes he does since he is of the senju clan in this theory
@ceroluthor danzo wasn’t an uchiha or senju so it wouldnt turn in to a rinnegan
In Japanese culture, family name matters and typically, the greater clan’s name is taken, regardless of guy or gal.
Naomi Osaka, her parents more explicitly, is an example of this.
Just like naruto?? He took his mom's name rather than Minato's
@@molateloseleka2534 first, hiruzen gave naruto kushina’s last name to protect against minato’s enemies. Not just naruto, the hassle it creates for the village.
Second, nc has a THEORY based on western culture; I didn’t suggest he was wrong, I offered a variable he hasn’t considered (eastern culture in relation to marriage). And yes, in Japan, men CAN take their wive’s name bc lineage is important for a host of reasons you can research if you’re interested.
Okay i get ur point Jahmal. And thank u for enlighting me further more
Theory time: Hashirama also had a son and we know who he is. Now clearly we know Hasirama had a child who was the parent to Tsunade but that parent was never seen, or was he? See Hashirama died not long after Tsunade was born so her father must have been someone powerful (having Uzumaki and Senju blood would double down on that) but because Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato (being married into the Uzumaki family), Tsunade, Kakashi (according to this theory), and Naruto are all related only one stands out. Hiruzen Sarutobi.
Hiruzen was a young man around 24 when he became 3rd Hokage meaning he was about 20 when Hashirama died and Hashirama was older than Tobirama who was around 30 in the war so it's possible that Hashirama could have been 36 when he died meaning he'd be sixteen when Hiruzen was born. Not wanting everyone to know of Hiruzen's true lineage due to reckless actions he gave him a different last name to hide him away, but not Uzumaki cause that would be too obvious.
But wait, The sarutobi clan joined Konohan early and were allies with Hashirama so Hiruzen belongs to them. WRONG! The Sarutobi clan were friends with the senjus and thus accepted Hashirama's purposal to raise young Sarutobi as their own.
But Tsunade was trained by Sarutobi and she was 12 before he was Hokage so he'd have to have her at 10 or 12 himself. Besides wouldn't he know his lineage if he named Tsunade a Senju?
Very good points and there is an answer for both. You see we see a young Sarutobi without his hokage gear training tsunade and the others but for tsunade to be Hashirama's grand daughter then there'd only be a gap of about 30 years for her to turn twelve in meaning that Hiruzen had her around 16 like Hashirama had him. As for the name yes, by the time he was a genin he learned his power was great and Hashirama took a liking to him, even having Tobirama train him specifically with Danzo and Shisui's father. But what made him so special?
Oh yeah he had control of all five Chakra nature's, something tied to Hagaromo or his decendants, like I don't know HASHIRAMA?
So he'd learned about his true name and great power but be old enough and wise enough to understand the deception. Calling Tsunade a Senju would allow him to train her as a pupil as parents are never seen training their kids on teams. In fact no joining instructor had kids until Asuma and Kurenai had a daughter and then they retired so maybe to ensure he could train her he changed her name and then named his Son Sarutobi to preserve their great name as Homage.
It's a stretch but definitely makes sense. This would explain why he's a God of shinobi like Hashirama, because they are related. Also this explains why he took care of Naruto. Not only was he Minato's boy but he also would not be related because his mother was an Uzumaki. This also means that Konohamaru would be Senju too and that would explain why his Chakra is so high as to master shadowclones, rasengan, and transformation not to mention fire and wind styles at the same rate as Naruto. Their blood line is insanely rich in Chakra.
But wait, wind style? Omg, Asuma and Konohamaru are fire and wind shinobi. Wind by nature and fire through training, and that's like Narutowho is wind and water and wind is so rare it's only found in one place the Uzumaki line! (Gaara theory supported)
Bam! The Sarutobi's are related to the Uzumaki's and they are the decendants of the God of shinobi himself. The time line matches, the Chakra nature's match, the secrecy and lineage of Hokage make sense. So what do you guys think, is this possible or will Tsunade's parents remain a mystery? Let me know in the comment section, down below.
So, all seven hokages are from the same lineage?, there's no way that's a coincidence
@@azzkin9401 that's the point. It was on purpose. The Raikage and Kazekage did it too. Funny how these three kage all possibly tie into Kaguya somehow.
@@JasonSmith-fr2jy Kazekage? I know the theory about how Raasa and Gaara are Uzumaki, but I don't know how that applies to the other three kazekage
@@azzkin9401 The Kazekage are simply called the Kazekage clan. No last name given which means it's not on file and erased. They would all fall under that. The Raikage also are all related and look who came from their clan, Kinkaku and Ginkaku two brothers who are related to Hagaromo. The Earth and Water villages have no ties to the Sage of Six paths and don't follow a line of kage... yes Darui broke that line but only after the war to end the curse of the Kaguya decendants.
Love how your girlfriend is just chilling with the dog in the background
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I thought this too but never delved deeper into it lol
That would explain why kakashi had large chakra reserves. Was always weird to me how he could use the sharingan that much and also do the multi-shadow clone jutsu.
kakashi does not have large chakra reserves, that’s what they do to nerf him
@@muhiddinmohuddin4419 Kakashi in part one after his second fight with Zabuza created a dozen Shadow clones
Kakashi has some of the worst chakra reserves in the series.. the only time it suddenly is shown in a good light is during the war arc which is just filled to the brim with plot holes
@@sumrandomashell4394 yeah in part 1, he says he can only use lightning blade 4 times a day. meanwhile sasuke in shippuden is able to use chidori and its variants like its nothing. the only exception is the 4th ninja war.
The main reason why I am hesitant about this theory is Kakashi's low level of chakra. We know that it is the Senju-trait to have massive chakra reserves, a basically never ending pool of energy to tap from that allows them to dominate the field on stamina alone. I think it is less than Uzumaki, but both coming from Ashura, it is still considerably. This is something we have seen with all Senju up to date, and that is the part that Kakashi is lacking. He was exhausted just after a couple of minutes using the Sharingan, and he regularly lands in hospital for no other reason than that he has overexerted his Chakra. Kakashi has even estimated that 12 year old Naruto already had stronger natural chakra reserves than him, this doesn't sound that much Senju.
Bro kakashi has senju level of chakra he’s just lie about being out of it just like he’s had Kamuwi the hole time and never busted it out
@@thomasshirey676 yeah, he lied after collapsing after a short tight with Zabusa -.- . And he didn't lie about Kamui, he didn't know that he had it until he discovered it in Shippuden. Just because Obito unlocked the ability of the eye to switch on the Mangekio doesn't mean that Kakashi was aware of that.
Kakashis sharingan constantly draind his Chakra, even when he's not using it, because he can't turn it of like an uchiha. It is stated that kakashi has larger Chakra reserves than an average jo in and we have seen his Chakra reserves drastically increase after he lost his sharingan.
Recessive genes exist…..
@@fleidhdlp1213 while that is true, we also have seen an Uzumaki literally having a Rinnengan active for 24/7 without any problems. Yes, Senju is no Uzumaki, but one Sharingan is no double Rinnengan either.
Edit: Also Kakashi literally say Naruto has at 12 more chacra then him at end 20's
Look how old tsunade is and she’s the grandchild of hashirama. I doubt the grandchild of tobirama would be as young as kakashi
Really hope Boruto follows the 2nd 3rd n 6th hokages. Naruto focused on 1st 4th and 5th. Still is lure out there but they only focus on the 7th n aliens smh 🤦🏽♂️
Love that there's just someone laying on the couch behind you🤣
I always thought Minato was Tobirama's secret kid. They have similar abilities and hair.
If you look around at almost all the konoha ninja you see a little of either Hashirama or Tobirama. Maybe they had illegitimate children with other non-wife women after the village was formed. Would also be one reason to explain why many of the senju descent take their mother's last name. My theory is that Tenten is related to Hashirama.
How many kids you think they had respectively
@@felixh5748 Hard to think. Any character without a last name is potentially a Senju. Jiraiya or even Orochimaru.
I really wish we knew more about Tobirama's love life because it seems in his time it was unlikely a man would never get married considering the low life expectancy, societal values and politics.
It's likely Tobirama had a least three descendants and Hashirama had two.
I fucking love these videos.
This man is too powerful. He can make any theory sound believable.
this is the first video ive seen posted the same day Hey NChammer!
senju have massive chakra reserves... kakashi passes out everytime he uses sharingan
kakashi can't be a senju, he always running out of chakra
Senju = the Clan that threw a thousand hands XD
It sounds like a stretch because if Kakashi was a senju descendant then he could have less trouble with the sharingan
Have we seen anyone else(sans people with Hashirama cells) use a Implanted Sharingan remember the Uchiha don't have a curse seal like the Hyuuga you would think the Sharingan would be super sought after if just anyone could use it this could also explain why Kakashi didn't go blind super fast from Mangekyou use
@@SRVaris That could be why but the blood very diluted for him to struggle with it until the war arc
This whole video makes way to much sense. Love your videos nc👏👏👏👏
Wow these new blow up dolls are getting so realistic, I think I saw it moving.
This makes me so happy. Throughout the ig Naruto and half of shippuden I thought they were related because of how similar they looked!!!
also when they disintegrate, they make it look like being part of konoha just magically makes you cracked
lol the doomscrolling in the corner with doge
I'm a simple man.
I see Tobirama, I smash that like button
Lol his girl just laying on the ground of his office just petting the dog is awesome. Everyone needs a partner who wild gladly just hangout well we nerd about dumb shit
Yo this would explain kakashi being able to use his sharingan so well
seeing your pup and girl snuggled up, for some reason. makes this video SO much better. for so many reasons
😂 I just noticed someone sleeping and moving around in the background
What if Kakashi and Minato were both descendants of senju through Tobirama.
coincidentally Naruto’s Hokage cloak has been drawn with red triangles on the bottom much like Sakumo’s sleeve. Easter egg, perhaps? 🤔