Women's 1500m final - 2023 NCAA outdoor track and field championships
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- Harvard's Maia Ramsden ran a time of 4:08.60 to win the women's 1500 meters at the 2023 NCAA outdoor track and field championships. Watch the full race here.
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The announcer gets so invested in her stories and hype that she forgets to call the race. The field was running Tuohy down along the back stretch and the announcer kept talking about how great Tuohy looked. uhh, hello.
I don't care for Larra Overton. My favorite is Carrie Tollefson who covered the NCAA D1 cross champs in November with John Anderson..
The commentors were hopeless. At one stage she said KT was punishing the other athletes...she was only ever punishing herself.
@@peterlittlestar2967also other announcer mentioned that Tuohy was all the way down to 6th
Announcer was wrong. Tuohy finished 7th.
Yep.
A smart runner is a dangerous competitor. Run hard for 3 laps, race for one.
One of the best post-race interviews I’ve seen. Congrats to Maia on a great performance
I've never heard a Kiwi with such an American accent. She ran a beautiful race.
Cracking run! Cheering from back in New Zealand 🇳🇿
Kia Ora ❤
What an amazing race! I'm a Touhy fan, and I know she ran with a lot of heart. I know that she will snap back from this. I wish I could have seen here in the 5K as well. The fact that she qualified for the finals in both is amazing. After pushing so hard all year, she had a great season. Congrats to Maia. That was a very technical performance and a well earned win.
I hope so!
Tired legs.
The winner ran a very smart race. Congrats! But, you can bet Tuohy learned a whole heck of a lot in this race and she will put it to good use.
Skip the 1500, don't lead, taper.
Katetlyn learned all the hype and attention has negative affects on a young runner. Hope she is ok confidence wise going forward.
I can’t imagine Tuohy ran this way on advice from her coach. A windy day with a headwind on the back straight, it was dumb to lead. Her frustration in the pedestrian semis led to a poor approach to the final IMHO. She bailed on the longer race (5000) later in the meet, won by Valby, so maybe there’s other stuff at play. I think she needs to chill, ignore the social media and the fanboys/girls, and concentrate on winning races the smart way. The records will come if they are meant to.
I liked Ramsden’s observation about ‘not bouncing around so much’, her style certainly looked quite economical (like Tuohy’s always is). No wasted effort. Good win, but jeez she’s sounding nothing like a Kiwi these days….
@@davidburne9477 we will probably never know the plan or if she stuck to it or ditched it. Bewildering tactics. KT will learn but a pretty harsh lesson. In the meantime a Kiwi has an NCAA title and KT has nothing to show for these champs.
Toughy is so over hyped, this girl will win no Olympics, she can't even best the American chick's how she going to beat the Kenyans 😅
congrats to Maia, big move in the last 200m.
Awesome run Maia. I love the patience and attacking corners, even the big arm finish... love the new changes in your form... not forgetting your signature 'talking' at the end of every training run! your energy is on another level! Much love from your track family in Fiji!!
Congratulations Maia from Auckland NZ, sensational run.
Perfectly timed break & a wonderful “Kiwi” interview after the race! 😅😂
Good on you, & please do keep enjoying both your studies AND your athletics!
Kindest regards from Auckland!
RH
her accent is gone
Probably from Poneke
And she didn’t monkey it out? No celebration.. that’s to your liking🤦🏽♀️
congratulations maia, from new zealand !!
Congratulations to the winner Maia Ramsden she ran a good race and deserves more credit.
Congratulations from New Zealand Maia!! Have been watching Katelyn for a number of years now but..WOW! Sooo well done!!
Maia seems like such a cupcake. Really lovely person and powerhouse athlete. Great final kick!
Congratulations Maia!
Love watching these women race, all of them give 100 percent. So congratulations to you all. So good to see Maia bringing the next era of New Zealand middle distance runners. Lovelock, halberg, Snell, Walker.
Great style, race craft and execution Maia.
perfectly executed 1500m just wow amazing inverview, gotta believe and things happen
Mia Ramson congratulations tremendous run. And outstanding performance.
Yeah great job Kiwi Maia. John Walker would be proud of that 200m kick - beautiful! Good luck for the 5. Enjoy👍
Good for Maia. She is said to be a very nice person. KT didn't look right on Thursday after an incredibly slow 4:14. Here she looked exhausted after running 4:11 and completely running out of gas with 100 to go. Henes reportedly said Tuohy felt 'awful' after the race so she decided to scratch her, which was the smart thing to do. Let's just hope she doesn't have something that will sideline her for long.
Didn't she run 4:09 on Thursday?
As I see it, after Tuohy saw O'Sullivan scamper away in the semi, she decided that setting a fast early pace would take away the tall woman's legs. O'Sullivan may also have been tired from winning the semi, but in either case, running so fast so early also took away Tuohy's legs at the end, and didn't slow down the half dozen women that passed her in the last few hundred meters. Even with perfect tactics, Tuohy would have had difficulty beating *all* these experienced 1500 runners. I suspect her legs were so dead after this effort, that she pulled out of the 5000 to prevent injury.
Henes said KT told her she felt 'awful' after the race so she decided to scratch her. That was the right thing to do.
Excellent final lap and very inspirational for younger kiwi female athletes
Great post race interview. Well won!
Maia was perfect ignoring the Touhy reference. Was rude of the interviewer to bring that into her celebration interview
Congratulations Maia! Great tactical race! Well done to the rest of the competitors!
Congratulations Ramsden. These girls that run are so amazing. I am so impressed.
why am I not surprised that a runner from Harvard ran a tactically intelligent race?
Congrats to Maia on her win. Izzy Thornton-Bott ran very well too. Tuohy is a champion and will be back as well!
Katelyn just did not have it all weekend. It happens. Her pace was fast but not crazy.
Yep. Anyone that has ever raced has had it happen.
Kt...que pasó??..I think better let others do the job...
Go Kiwi! What a race in the traditions of Snell, Walker and Halberg. Fantastic!!! Proud NZer here
Don't forget Rod Dixon.
@@rentslave Dick Quax too. He was a nice guy
@@frankchan5547 I met Rod in Asbury Park in 1983 and advised him not to run the NYC marathon because his shorter distance career would be over.Good thing he didn't take my advice.
Nice kick at the end, but a well managed race and tough running put her there, great running Maia.
Shocker! The third lap for Touhy was too fast and she had nothing left the last 200 meters.
From last ro first in one year😮.
Beating the best without fear.
Congrats you deserve it❤😊
Well done Maia. A beautiful race and cheering you on from NZ.
Fantastic rush in 100 mt final. GOOD Maia.
Congrats to Maia! Britton, Jasmine, Julien & Katelyn all came into NCAAs with a shot at The Bowerman and Julien was the last one standing!
I think Julien sealed the deal with her double.
Incredible!!!
What a beautiful win. Lovely.
Championships are different than just meets. It's all about team points. Some distance girls might run three races for the points. Won't win them all but may total 15 - 25 points for their team. That was a ton of talent in the 1500!!!!!!
I would have never thought in a million years Twohy would fade to seventh! (6/10/23)
I tought it two times in 2 million years
@PandaMan It's the NCAA Championship. Not just another ordinary race.
shes not really a 1500m specialist. Alot of these 1500m runners have some serious leg speed a 63 for a distance runner even moving.
NC has been usually cool this year (I live very close to her school), and not too hot and only mid humidity. This is very very unusual for us, however hearing that it was over 90 degrees there I wonder if the heat got to her. Not to mention she pushed it way to hard in the beginning. I’m sure loosing at semifinal shook her up but she can overcome this and get back to racing strategically.
@@Carlosediaz543 agreed. Her body was not accustomed to the faster pace of the 1500. Makes it difficult to push though lactic build up if you're not comfortable with the feeling.
This is why I love the 1500. The race truly begins in at 800m or that last 400
110% badass performance.
1500m World Record - Faith Kipyegon 3:49.11 just a few days ago.
I admire Maia smart race
Big KT fan, but Maia as well. Fantastically smart race! Our American women are in great hands. Congrats Maia!!!!!
The commentators were barking up the wrong tree all race long and still could not get it right in the end.😂
92 degrees/55% humidity……gotta respect that
Great race Maia!!!🎉❤🎉
They keep saying sixth...she was sveneth!
Wow, great race ladies. Sophie O'Sullivan - we remember you from State (Melbourne) under 12, 2014, I think - looks like you were carrying an injury - go girl!
What a brillant,humble young lady
Kia ora Maia. Watching in Aotearoa
Wow that was surprising to see KT fade so badly at the end. I wonder if the heat played a big role? Congrats to Maia on a great finish 🎉
She’s injured. Dropped the 5k
@@danielfalk9724 she's not injured. Just got her ego hurt.
@@rinranrun857 no I was at the meet and spoke w her coach she’s injured and left the meet early
@@rinranrun857 I actually agree
She isn’t injured
great racing all the way around
Wow thats crazy, KT was on everybody win list lol
Touhy has guts. Gave her best. She’s an amazing runner. Will go far as long as she stays healthy.
too many Ducks!!! Maia was chilling at 4:11 😎
This, being a Championship race, didn't have pacemakers. That meant that Kaitlyn, who needed a fast pace because she isn't particularly fast over 400/800, had to make a big decision. To lead and force the pace and allow others to get the benefits or sit back and try to finish fast. Leading in a 1500m, effectively acting as pacemaker for the rest of the field, is not the same as leading in a 5000m. Still, lesson learned, I hope.
If she had sat back and let others set the pace, it would have come down to a tactical race and any former 400/800 runners would have buried her in the finish.
She could've just went hard from 600 and been fine imo. Going in 64 probably burned her.
@@Bonobopantherienbionique Hi. You could very well be correct. However, KT's best 400/600 time is NOT fast and there were probably 8 or 9 FASTER runners (over 600) in that race. She needs a fast pace throughout, to allow her strength and stamina to play a role. I've closely watched KT over the years and seen her development. I'm a huge fan! Eventually her best distance on the track will be 10,000m which will allow her to build her strength and stamina and use them. (Cross-Country and Road running as well but we are just talking Track) I estimate it will take about 4 or 5 years, meaning she will hit her peak at about age 26 in time for the 2028 Olympic 10,000m.
Note: The new World Record for women at 1500m is 3.49. That 64 sec lap KT ran would only result in a 4m flat time, if she kept it up all the way. KT will never be fast at 1500m at Open Grade level and , yes, KT is an Open Grade runner (20 and over) so it is not unfair to make comparisons to Open Grade world times. It's only when you limit the race to USA College level that the middle/long distance are seen clearly. Cheers.
@@johnwilson5743 Heard her say she’s run a 57 quarter…so def frontrunning the 1st 1/4 at 4:16 mile pace when her mile PR is 4:23 was risky. Mighta gotten away with a 65…Hard race for her with tactics given her speed ceiling
Not only one has to run fast, one has to run smart.
@@Amtcboy Yep. This was always going to be the tougher race for her. The season's nests prior to this race attested to that fact. I'd like to know why she didn't run the 5000m .
Faith Kipyegon just ran 3.49
great wisdom in the post race interview
This race should be shown to all junior runners as a lesson that it doesn't matter where you are placed after the first lap, second lap, third lap or even 200m to go! It matters only where you cross the finish line 😅 perfectly judged and executed race 👌
But those laps do matter. If she is boxed in during laps 2-3 she may not get to move up and kick for the win. She ran a very smart race
You think they don't know that? How stupid do you think junior runners are?
@@dylandixon4058 if you can eventually get free, getting boxed in can be a blessing in disguise if you would have otherwise made a poorly metered attack
You're 100% right. Let's be honest; Touhy ran a BONE-HEADED race. Absolutely stupid.
Disagree. It does matter where you are with 200 meters to go!
Katelyn threw it down too early. She looked angry and not in her best form. This was a learning race for her.
Big congrats to Maia Ramsden. She ran a great race.
I was watching Katelyn Tuohy's last lap and down the backstretch she looked like she was pushing her legs hard, while the next girl matched her pace running with less effort. You knew she'd be in trouble. That was hard to watch.
That wasn't anger. That was heat and humidity, and fatigue.
@@garywells3763 I said she looked angry. Doesn't mean she was angry, but it did look like she wanted to spank the field and took it out too early. If this was a card game, I'd say she showed her hand.
Thouy got torched.....YES!! A little bit of humble pie......EAT IT!!
Ya, I thought running pissed from the front was a mistake. Her body was already trying to tell her something in the 5000m. Not to say you shouldn't try to win the 1500m, but probably with a more patient method than trying to blow out the rest of the field.
she may be the poster child of arrogance. Her race was so stupid. How are you going to lead the whole race and than DIE the last 100 yards?
Excellent Judgment, Congratulations
I think Katelyn's coach misjudged the ability to double in distances in a hot and humid environment like Austin. It was 67 degrees in N. Carolina this week. Poor Katelyn had to run multiple 5k's and 1500s to get there as well. The heat and humidity took its toll. I feel for her. Been there myself.
I lived in San Antonio from '76 to '83 when I ran 6 marathons. I can tell you the heat and humidity (until all the water dries up around the end of June) is brutal and takes some getting used to.
KT is now meeting tougher competition with many of the ladies in this race coming in from outside of the USA. KT would do well to reflect on this and make the sensible choice to race in events suited to her ability.
Congrats to Maia. Not sure what happened with Katelyn. Hope she comes back better and stronger.
She is a scrub, that is what happened...
@@RK-um9tu ncaa xc champion is a scrub? Yeah righy lmfao. Bet you can't even run a 1500m without gassing out.
KT just didn't have a good day today. That stuff can happen to the best of runners.
That was a super-intelligent race by Maia Ramsden! Interestingly, the commentators did not even mention her name (albeit awkwardly) until her move into the lead.
Classy, altruistic move to give a shout-out to Graham Blanks, on his 2nd place finish in the men's 5,000 meters.
She worked her way up from last so slowly, it was interesting.
@@ericbrotherson2003 Yes she is very smart I wonder what the focus of her studies is .
KT should stick to the long distances
Realize Tuohy isn't a 1500 specialist, but surprised to see her get out-kicked like that
Honestly, I got the impression she was so determined to meet the expectations of everyone associated with the track and field world, she way overextended herself from the outset. That being said, I don’t know that she necessarily would have won running her usual race plan, just don’t believe she would have died so drastically on the home stretch.
Good race from Maia ran her own pace, no idea what Katelyn tactics where if she had any at all.
KT was kinda let down by her coach....she learn this racing against pros indoors, don't do all the work the spot you want is comfortably on the shoulder or just behind the leader at the beel and down the final backstretch....this isn't HS or frankly the ACC you need to RACE not just run.
Totally agree! Hopefully it’s a lesson learn for both , coaches and KT, but more for K, she needs to be smart for herself….
It's not like she hasn't done this at major college races with it still working for wins. She likes racing like this. Definitely a go down on your shield type and it's great to see when it works, but it's always going to be risky
Somehow eneded up here after witnessing Faith Kipyegon of Kenya break the womens' 1500 and 5000, WR in the same week.
Now you are talking about a different league.
Damn these Runners can Fly!
Great race from fellow Kiwi Maia. I think one of the announcers said earlier she was from Australia so I didn't know until this race. Tough race for KT. Maybe not the greatest strategy in 92 degrees. 1500 is pretty unforgiving tactically especially in the heat. Go to slow and risk being outkicked or do all the work and get passed in the last 100.
1500m race strategy is so wild
It's a gunfight and KT ran out of bullets while Maia blazed up the final straight
Wow ! Shocked
Maia Ramsden is a dangerous runner. She showed in the semi that she has real finishing speed! This is her distance, not 5000.
Tuohy is a natural 5000 and cross-country runner. She can't, and never will finish like Ramsden in a 1500 race.
Puts things into perspective. Whoever is coaching KT needs to decide on what distance is her best and stop thinking she can run two events, even at this level. Time to get realistic. Well done to the winning Kiwi. Hopefully, the pressure put on KT will calm down and let her decide on how her career can move on without the overblown hype around her. Good luck KT.
Finally someone preaching common proper athlete care tactics here. She should have just done the 5k.
Not really. She's more than capable of winning both and just had a bad day. That can and does happen to everyone. Hard to call the hype overblown when she's breaking records
@@veganpotterthevegan Breaking records is great, but championship athletics is about winning. Records come and go, but gold lasts forever. Remember Ron Clarke many years ago broke every world record, but never won an Olympic gold. KT is a good athlete, but nowhere near world class, yet. I wish her, and the other ladies in the college system well, but life in the pro ranks is another level and you don't get many who can 'double up' at the highest level, especially today.
@@johntaplin3126 she's already won championships. It's not like she's Karl Malone. As for not being world class. What's world class if she's already ranked 21st in the world in the 5000 and not in her prime yet?
@@veganpotterthevegan Agreed, she is a school champion and is shown by one measure at 21st on a 5000m ranking, but look at the real yardstick - times! If I'm not mistaken, Katelyn has yet to break 15 minutes over 5k on any surface, but especially on the track. That would not even rate anyway in world terms. Only a few days ago the world mark was reset at 14:05:02 by Faith Kipyegon in Paris. Please, don't yet me wrong, I wish KT every success, but those who have been around the sport have seen so many protégés over the years and heaping expectations on them too soon often leads to unfilled careers. I can't help thinking of Zola Budd in this context - and she did find success, but one can only imagine what might have been without the demands that were put on her early on.
Heck yes Maia. She is the girl to watch! So prpud
At least O'Sullivan got last. She should have been DQed in the previous race. Tuohy probably won't admit it but she got injured in that race.
Huge run for Izzy in 2nd ❤Such a lovely girl.
facts
That’s racing!
Why in the world does the NCAA insist on spoiling the outcome in the thumbnail?
Lets go Kiwi ,lets go..!!
Начать надо с того, что это не её коронная дистанция , она короткая и более скоростная и бегуньи специализирующиеся на этой дистанции довольно спокойно выдерживают темп Кэтлин, а если учесть , что у Кэтлин финиш это слабое место, она не обладает финишной сокоростью, то её поражение закономерно.Ей надо менять тренеров , если они не могут ей подсказать, что это не её дистанция.Она должна выступать на более длинные дистанции. И конечно ей надо много работать над финишной скоростью.
Привет всем из России.
Agree. I think KT is a better two and three miler than a 1500 racer. Which is why she is so good at cross country. I ran track a long time ago and the 800 an 1500 were considered distant races. Nowadays, they are basically a sprint. Hats off to the winner of this race. Great kick.
@ 4;48 "So she was pissed off on Thursday..." 😄
Could be. Things seemed off kilter from the Wake Forest meet on. It seems clear that they paced that race based on her training times and consistent with what she ran in indoors in the mile and the DMRs, but she just did not have it. Then you have her own comments after the record at Soundrunning where she said she was having a really tough time in training. Then you have this podcast comment by a coach that Henes said that she has not been herself in training for several weeks. Still could have been just a bad meet or bad day or a poor race strategy, but my guess is that she got worn down by a long, eventful year. It is hard to run at a very high level all year, and I thought she started to wear down this time last year also.
Thank you for putting it all in context...KT worked so hard and accomplished so much during indoors and the beginning of outdoors, including on bigger stages. Can't imagine it would be easy to keep that up into June.
Katelyn tuohy no se pudo por esta pero hay que trabajar mas yo sé que puedes vamos a hecharle galleta.animo.
KT scratched the next race. Iowa's great wrestling champion Spencer Lee recently scratched his next NCAA Championship match after getting upset. Great champions, both. No human nor even machine always performs at optimum. I will say I am stuck on KT, wishing her more glory.
Wow! Ive never seen Touye loose.
Kiwi's have a great tradition at 1500m...........
"She will use that to fuel herself into the final" Nope. No more fuel. It happens to the best. Wise choice to pull out of the 5,000.
Great taxe by Maia but gotta think something is off with Kaitlyn that was not typical.of her race strategy or finishing kick.
KT might be tired from all the pressure of breaking the 5k outdoor record. She might be training through this weekend with high mileage to peak at the World Championships. It’s hard to peak in indoors, and twice in outdoors. Distance runners aren’t machines. Sometimes you are tired one week. She is making steady improvement year by year, that’s all that matters. Give her a break. Glad O’Sullivan got last since she tripped a girl in the semifinal.
She's definitely not right. She looked exhausted after running 4:11.
@@Philobiblion She did the best she could 1500 m is not her thing.
Great win by Maia. Henes put KT in a bad position. She is not a short distance runner, should have stuck with her bread and butter as I am sure that is where she will be competing when she turns pro. Hope she can get back to her elite form
I think the heat and humidity got to Katelyn T. She just didn't look right.
Very well handled by Maia during the interview on the "Touhy" factor. She ignored his point and talked about her focus and plan.
Katelyn’s 1500 PR is 4:06 which she ran in indoor so her first 300m should have been :49.2 if she wanted to match that but she ran :47.9 which is only 1.3 seconds too fast. Her 400 m laps should have been 65.6 seconds each to match her PR. Her 700 m split should have been 1:53.5 to get a PR, but she was 1:55.3 (2 seconds slow), so even though it looked like she was running crazy, she was running slower than her best time. However, considering she wanted to double, and it was about 95 degrees, and her PR was set using the vacuum effect of having a runner right in front of her in indoor, she should have gotten out behind the pack and ran close to the rail to not add extra distance, and let others break the wind and use the vacuum effect to let the air pull her behind them. It looked a little windy right before the race. Then she should have kicked the last 300 m to gradually work her way to the lead, to win by a small margin, less than a second.
She has run too many races. Didn’t have the turnover. Nothing more.
You’re over analyzing the heck out of this
@@jbdawg6502 that’s because there are lots of people asking questions and making comments about how crazy fast she got out and I wanted to save people the work of figuring out the splits to see if she really did run crazy fast at the start or if her race plan was somewhat reasonable, which I think it was. If you look at the details it helps people understand and maybe she can learn from these details to make a more careful plan in the future. Her race reminds me of Whitni Orton’s senior year, and Courtney Wayment’s Junior year at Nationals. They get really excited with big hopes and don’t factor in that they might not feel great that day and leave room for that to happen.
Her outdoor PR was set outside with no pacer and she ran it from the front so your information is wrong here. No 'vacuum effect' as you say.
@@ljn5232 I didn’t say her outdoor PR was anything. I only said her indoor PR. Read my sentence. Who cares what she ran outdoors? We know she is capable of 4:06 since she has ran that this year. Her 4:08 was slower because she got out too fast that day.
Great pacemaker running by Kate Lynn Tuohy. A good tactics Kate Lynn hold 4th place in a race and have a 110m sprint kick finish, you'll medal that way 🙂
Maia is absolutely classy; great interview.
I'm a Katelyn fan, but not sorry for her here... A) It's not her best distance, B) She'll learn better tactics, C) Always good to see little ol' NZ win 😂