His math is off, along with his maintenance expenses and logic. Its a good video, but its not very accurate. If you're going to put on those miles, your goals should be higher.
It's nice to watch a video where the guy isn't chewing, or vapin' or dragging on a smoke. Thanks for using complete sentences and thinking your videos through before posting them. Thumbs up.
THANK YOU !!! I was feeling the same way at all the 'rap video' BULLSHIT I kept running into trying to do some serious research. Its so tiring and played out. This is A GREAT CHANNEL !! thanks for upload..ill be tuning in to this dude !
Good info, well presented, but as a company driver, I net (put in my pocket) weekly $950 to $1350 weekly with an average of $1050. Go out 5 to 6 weeks, then take off 4 to 6 days. Regional driver. No greenbelt. No contract. No risk. Just do what you say, be dependable and represent the company well. So, after taxes and all benefit costs, make more than your saying with full health for my family along with life insurance etc...what am I missing?
Exactly. This why owner ops should never accept rates lower than $2.00/mile and should be aiming for $2.50+. No need to let the brokers get rich while your only making out as good as a company driver with lots response responsibility and headache
Oil field you'll gross 10k+ a month as a company driver. Granted there's labor involved and now it's slowing down..but still..plenty of driving jobs out there to make good money if you're not afraid to work..
I'm thinking this is his lowest acceptable level of income when freight is low. I say that bc i too have a bottom dollar thats about $1500 a day. If I have to sit somewhere and it's not loading/unloading or taking my 10hr break I'm sitting at home. I've ran $1800-$2200 loads with 300 plus miles dead head that del the same day, some next day morning. I also ran $700-$900 loads with same day deliveries some locally that keeps me above my bottom dollar. I don't really look at how much a load pays per mile per say., I look to see if I can deliver it the same day. If not I just divide the rate by the pickup and delivery times *dates* if it's above my bottom dollar I book it. If it's close to my bottom but it's going to a bad area I turn it down unless I'm going home and it can cover the fuel to get me there.
With everything you said, company guys are the same way. I accept every load I’m offered. Long hauls, super short hauls etc. plenty of guys at the company I work for, will refuse loads they don’t like and then they sit there all day. Also, because I accept all the loads I can, lm always busy, because the company knows they can give me any loaf and I’ll take it. So it’s a win for them and a win for me. Too many truck drivers are too short sighted.
Great Video Dan. I remember when i drove, i would do a few 300 mile runs from Wednesday to Monday. When i returned to where i started, there were guys still waiting for that LONG run. Funny thing was, i drove 1500 miles in a few days times making that money while they sat. They complained and i think i even got a long run before these 5 that were waiting around. A person that's not willing to work will starve in the end. Do what others aren't willing and win. Thanks Dan.... you are the man. Drive safe and get that $5 per mile when you can. Drive less and earn more.
Excellent video. I run with mercer doing flatbed and I have been here over a year now. I live in South Carolina so I see a lot of those short mile runs paying good. Great tips. I run my truck the exact way you describe. I also picked up some good information from you. Thanks for that. Keep doing what you are doing.
Michael Jones II what going Michael. I'm just putting truck on with Mercer. Heard some good things. Just checking to see how's it going so far with you. I know different strokes for different folks.
I'm with Mercer also and out of Beaufort, SC. January and February are historically slow months and I sat every weekend and didn't have one tarp load. Still made $563 a day in January. The money is there with Mercer even when freight is down. Now the trick is getting something that pays going home.
Excellent Dan! You did a very good job of explaining the fixed costs. When setting parameters with your dispatcher I guess you could say you'll deadhead a certain distance and then consider the rate and mileage once you are given the details. Looking forward to more good stuff. Gord, Vancouver
good video Dan this is what I like people that give very good informative information I hope people check you out and learn some lessons before they start stressing about a truck
I run into this type of calculation often and the biggest mistake new drivers make when making their estimations is that they leave out a *_MAINTENANCE FUND_* for their tires, PM’s, breakdowns, and miscellaneous. You will be surprised as to how many truck drivers lose everything simply because they didn’t have a maintenance account, so when the unexpected happens (and it will, it’s not if but when) they lose their shirts. Not to mention that the insurance wasn’t figured in to these numbers, and whether you’re leasing on to a company or running on your own authority because there’s extra costs involved that weren’t mention by this Super Trucker.
Thank you for being straight up with numbers I know these are estimates, but great job. This is exactly how I think when working. People say why and I say I'm making money. That's where it matters and I enjoy it also.. Your right on . Thank you.
Great video. In short; keep moving,just be smart about it. Those wheels gotta turn. You'll win some and lose some. The goal is to win more than you lose. Earning a 'lil bit will still bring in the money you're gonna need at the end of the month.
You explained it very well! I like how you look at a big picture and knowing your goal. The load per mile and the dead head is well explained. Thank you!
You just showed the intelligence of truckers, shoot PICTURES and math all in one video. HEY you guys know the difference of a trucker and a puppy dog? The puppy stops whinning after a couple months.
This made complete sense! I am hoping to find a video about plugging the holes. A leaky bucket breaks a lot of small businesses. Controlling expenses/managing costs needs to equal your management strategy. Great video! Well reasoned presentation.
dan you got him working every day---no way????stephen from mich---retired many yrs ago--million miler--in my time we had it easy---yes we did !!!--great vidos good work--thanks
Please read e myth. Consider if you would be better served buying your own truck or getting a better job? Good luck brother and go get it. I looked into it extensively and concluded for myself it's end up doing more work to make maybe$20k more a year. Not worth trading every free weekend working on the truck and getting loads for me. Not trying to stop you or discourage you I just see tons of guys get into it and run for 1/mi and go broke....
I agree with everything you say. I've been an owner operator since 1999 and drove part time from 1993. My dad, a 40 year O/O, taught me how to do it right. What prospective O/O's have to realize is that certain expenses (truck payment, insurance etc.) are fixed while others (fuel, maintenance etc.) vary. For this reason, you need to set aside a portion of each settlement as sort of an emergency fund. This way, if a major breakdown occurs, you can cover it and get rolling again. For new drivers, even fleet drivers, the best advice I can give is watch your hours and keep the left door closed! In other words, keep the truck rolling. How often do we hear drivers complaining that they're not making any money as we walk past the arcade in the truckstop on our way to the showers? If they were actually running down the road, maybe they'd make some money.
I'm thinking about being an owner opp and when I figured my bottom line I broke it down by mileage rate and knew that on my worst week I wanted to take home no less than $1,200 after taxes, overhead, and no less than $1,000/wk to add to my $20,000 start up maintenance acct. After doing all my calculations I found that I should never accept less than $2/mi and really need to be seeing 2.20+...2.40-2.52 is what I would consider good and any rates around 2.60-2.80 or more are excellent! Ik it's better to stay moving than not moving at all and sometimes you gotta settle for a less than adequate rate to get to a better lane that will make up for the cheaper rate so that it can average out to be a fair week overall but what you have to keep in mind is that these brokers are trying to keep as much as 50% of shippers going rate for their own pockets and their only overhead is a desk and a phone. My job is to do my best to negotiate a rate that allows them to keep no more than 25% being that I'm the one risking my life to haul it and have extremely higher overhead cost to account for than they do. It's not fair for them to get a better deal than me when I know what I'm worth and dont want to have to settle for anything less
You're right even back when this video was made a $1.50 is basically paying the bills but not making the truck anything. I operate locally, get paid hourly weather I'm running or sitting and home every night and even as far back as 2015 I was making anywhere from $105 to $130 per hour and grossing between $25,000 and $28,000 per month. The reason companies don't pay is because they don't have to when you have 100 guy's willing and fighting over the same cheap load. I charge slightly more than the other local guy's but the companies that hire me are always requesting me because I do a better job. You have to set yourself apart from the rest of the other guy's. It's 2022 now and depending on what I'm doing my truck makes an hourly rate of $120 minimum for a single trailer and I make as much as $180 per hour with double trailers.
@@clydeacor1911 I feel like a lot of owner operators are thinking they are making a good living while not realizing that there is much more to account for than just what you pay yourself and truck cost and fuel. As a owner operator you have to make sure you are putting away a good amount for some sort of retirement since you are not getting a 401k or a Pension. Also figuring in medical cost for a family is another $1000 per month. Lets not forget that you still have to pay a good amount of taxes on top of all that as well. Yes there is many ways to keep taxes down but a good chunk needs to be set aside for it and not into your cost to say how much you are making to make it look higher. Who wants to be on the road away from their family for a week or two or more making $800-$1200 a week that you put in your pocket while working 60+ hours a week driving. You can make that right at home with benefits and 40hrs a week with benefits and retirement.
Awesome Video about a few essential aspects about being an O/O, with comparisons about tarping and strapping variations and benefits. What sitting at the truck stops waiting on a Bomb load really gets you in Dollars. Rather than running what works, everyday, smartly, in the big picture. Trucker Dan is Smart and Genuine.
Great Stuff, I understand just need to get my experience driven as did transportation in the Military last 23yrs......thanks for your VLOG Dan.........Jay....
I don't understand why you wouldn't just break it down in to a per mile expense. The more granular you can get it the more you see your true numbers and how everything is impacting your bottom line. If you hold 200 gallons of fuel and avg 7 miles per gallon that's 1400 miles @ x amount per Gallon. Then you factor in your fuel surcharge... All costs in my opinion should be broken down to the penny. Driving is what gets you paid therefore to the penny costs of everything from fuel, insurance, payments, maintenance, etc. You can put #s down on a paper and say you need to make X amount per day but how do you know if you really made that without factoring everything in correctly. You then can adjust accordingly depending on fuel prices. Knowing where to fuel up and when and calculating that in as some states are more costly than others. Profit and Loss is a must and every penny per mile counts.
+Matt H A lot of my loads are short haul 300 miles or less. I calculate those loads by the hour. Ask your self how much is your time worth just not per mile rate. How would you rate a per mile rate on a load going 100 miles. I don't I Factor a per hour rate how many hours will it take me to complete. I would rather do a load paying $500 (which is my minimum rate) going 100 miles that takes 3 hrs to complete.
Exactly right!😉BEST WAY IS FIND THE RIGHT KIND OF TRUCKING YOU ENJOY!😉 WHETHER ITS FLATBED OR REFER OR BOX OR TANKER ! AND AREAS YOU LIKE CROSSCOUNTRY OR REGIONAL ! AND ENJOY THE TRIPS BECAUSE IF YOUR NOT ENJOYING IT YOU'LL WASTE TIME INSTEAD OF BEING EAGER!😉😊😄/ i use to love going OUT WEST AND BACK TO ANYWHERE EXCEPT NY CITY!😄
Dan you video is great. There are loads that pay more per day. I haul LTL, Expedite freight in the retail market. I move fitness equipment, and Anesthesia machine, also I get accessorial pay for long carry, inside delivery, debris removal, assemble & disassemble. My average load pay min 3.35 per mile. I also get paid 70 percent leaving the yard 90 percent on return loads. there are load that are paying it depends on the type of market of freight you want to haul. In my opinion the retail market is the best market to be in, for one you are continuously moving daily
Nice video Dan. Good of you to share the secrets of making money the wise way. You are a hard working wise man. You remind me so much of myself in my early days of working hard. I just kept the ticker going making money even though it was little. Many nickels make dimes many dimes make quarters many quarters make dollars many dollars make a millionaire.
What about food, taxes, tolls, insurance, down time, social security (if you ever get old. I did.) I started as an owner operator in the 70's. In the early 80's I decided to buy my first NEW truck. By then I had figured out how many miles per year average I ran with this company. Look back at my records and saw that it was doable. By the way, my numbers where much higher than yours, and keep in mind, that was in the 80's . Now, I have watch your other videos and know you've touch on some of this, but someone just starting out may not get the whole picture in this vid. By the late 90's with the prices on everything going up, and rates not keeping up, I sold my trucks and started driving a company truck for the same company. It was, and still is a great company. Anyway, I do enjoy your videos, and everyone has different priority's. Wishing you a happy holiday season and continued success.
You are so right, good way of thinking of it, another way to think of it the 2 days of 290 that you lost for sitting there has redistributed through your remaining days of the month. Hope that makes sense, good quality video.
Good info and tips. When I was trucking the terminology I used is FIXED COSTS. Everything you mentioned and I would add to the equation your insurance, per mile for tires, (that may fall under maintenance), registration, health ins, etc. At the end of the day, and year,it really reveals whether your margins are acceptable for yourself on top of the costs of running a trucking business.
+rooshooter yes Fixed Costs good term. I was just trying to hit on the main cost. Some times to much detail and people get lost. I was just trying to give simple formula to calculate how much you need to make to be profitable. A lot of young drivers get stars in their eyes thinking as soon as they have their own truck the money starts falling from the sky.
It really helps alot to know how much truckers make on a flat bed trailer a mile I'm to go back to the DMV in pekin Illinois and get my CDL license and if I don't pass it this I'll start driving hot shot 30ft gooseneck trailer and go that way
This guys right. Other Drivers Sitting. My Fleet Manager would always take care of us. Keep Moving. Me and my co driver would take everything. Coming into where drivers were sitting. Our fleet manager would load or have a load waiting. Always took care of us. He new we didn't want to sit.
That was an awesome video Dan. I am most likely 2 years out from getting my own truck, and I am sure many things will change by then, but wow! what great incite. thank you.
Finally a guy who makes sense..i went threw a few vids,waist of time...this driver is what old schoolers call (BEAN COUNTING)..MICRO MANAGE EVERY MOVE AND TURN YOU AND YOUR RIG MAKES....
I’m @ MERCER too my friend .. everyone break down is different.. me personally I think 1.60 mile is very low. . . I’m here at MERCER in flatbed and make well over 2.00 a mile. I need to make no less then 1.85 average. So if you only need 1.60 you doing good lol ... mecer is a great company 👍🏻
I love your perspective on this. I'm 30 years of age and just now getting into the trucking industry. After a year or so, I wanted to go the route of an Owner Operator. Everything you've said in this vid makes perfect sense. Thanks for the informative video. Make that money and be safe out there man
@@vannwesson2751 Yes. I've been trucking going on 5 years now. 2 years locally/ heavy equipment operation and going on 3 years on a regional dedicated account. Get home daily and make good money. Which helps with my real estate investments.
Dan I agree with you on the costs but you forgot insurance , road and fuel taxes and the big one replacement /major repair of truck and trailer . Do not include your own pay. What O/O’s need to know is what it costs them per mile to operate per mile whether they are loaded or empty. You must pay the truck first. Your per mile rate will vary based on fuel cost but that is easy to calculate . Here’s an example based on 100k miles per year: Fuel .75 Insurance .12 Maintenance .15 Truck payment .36 Trailer payment .10 Rd taxes .08 Major repair or replacement .25 Total is 1.88 per mile Most people never account for a blown engine or having to buy a new truck or trailer. Owning your truck and trailer takes a significant chunk out of your operating cost. This is just an example everyone’s costs will be different depending on truck payment, fuel economy , insurance cost etc. however the categories in the accounting is the same. I forgot licensing renewal and 2290. So even if you do not have a truck and trailer payment your true cost per mile will range fro 1.30 - 1.60 per mile before you pay yourself.
Thank you for all this useful information good man. This helps me a lot because I'm trying to save money to buy a truck & trailer and be my own boss. God Bless you brother.
I am wanting to get into trucking. I'm basically trying to find a company to train and hire me with my criminal background. Been difficult, but I still watch videos on the industry. I really enjoy your videos and I like your way of thinking. I have the same mindset. The place where I work had will ask people if they want to stay a couple hours over sometimes. So despite people groaning and saying "it's only like 40 bucks extra on your check", I still do it. I'm still using the same amount of gas to get home. I wouldn't earn that 40 dollars sitting at home for 2 hours. I always look for ways to make money. When you stop.. you don't make anything.
Another really interesting video. Would be interesting to hear your perspective on saving and paying off the truck and trailer as soon as possible--I realize that many driver's home situation just does not allow them to save that kind of money.
I dont think he meant that's what he makes or made. I think he was just trying to show viewers some numbers they should shoot for or a formula to enter their personal numbers in so they can have a good idea on what they need to shoot for per day/week/month/year.
Hey Super Trucker Dave like your videos pretty cool but I wanted to see if I can correct you a little bit, I don't think anybody out there wants to drive 30 days straight to make $500 a day eventually you going to have to go home so if I can recommend for you to change that to 3 weeks out of the month and a week of home time remember you got 34-hour reset thanks again God bless be safe
You are right on, Dan! It's all about income per day. Another CZcamsr, Jeffery Like, stresses the same things. You guys are among the few who emphasize the right priorities.
I like the process of coming up with the numbers, your coming up with. I would suggest changing Carriers that have better paying freight in lanes you want to or make your money on run. In most cases it, has been pointed out, the hos and normal trips your out of reasonable time in 6 days then a 34 break. Good points on deadhead, work days, and tarping. If your not going to due the job way are you doing it. Good video
Very nice Video, I make Expedite videos as well, I was told by one of my viewers to check out your channel, and it’s really nice I must say, now I will drive and watch your videos
Wait you mean to tell me your Pete doesn't get 15 mpg and have 8000 hp like everyone else's at the Petro ??? I think people might be lying to me just a bit. lol nice video.
These numbers are missing many factors. Never does he add or calculate insurance, tags, road use tax, fuel tax, average fines / penalties, accounting, income taxes on your own pay, payroll company costs, phones, internet or data or any one of a number of other daily expenses like food or lodging on a long layover. He also talks of calculating the expenses on a 30 day schedule. If you have ever driven truck, you know that it's impossible to run 30 days straight. You will always have a day or 2 here and there to either unload or pick up a load. Someone said good math skills? Ummmmm... not really sure this guy covers the financial details quite accurately with a sharpie and a sheet of paper.
I don't have any Payments on my Truck, I do my own Maintenance work. So I get more money back too me and my Truck. I don't use ELD's or DEF, My truck is a 1974 Peterbilt 359-A
I'd rather be a company driver for a big company. Or a Teamster driving local making guaranteed 90k a year. I've seen too many owner operators and independents go out of business. The last straw is usually the breakdown in Jerkwater USA. Big tow truck bill, and just to get the estimate at the sketchy shop costs $900. Then the hotel stay while the shop has your truck and the shop charging you way too much for the repair that is poorly done. And then 500 miles later your radiator explodes in heavy fast moving traffic because the shop screwed up, and then you have to do it all over again in the next middle of nowhere town. True story.
Number one thing being an owner operator is you are not home as much as a company driver would be. I am in the process of moving into transport here in Australia driving Heavy Rigids and drivers doing o.t. doin 100k a year. I am happy with that. It isnt just your truck you gotta maintain,gotta keep your woman maintained if you know what I mean ;)
Very smart guy! Dead head miles are of no consequence. I run Arkansas to Texas weekly roughly 450 miles a day and average 2.05 all miles and dead head 150-250 miles every other miles.
Dude hats off to you and all the flatbed drivers. You guys do hard work. But I think you need to raise your standards. I drive a dry van and will not drive as cheap as you drive... I open and shut doors. No loading unloading tarping etc... you guys need to ask for more. At our company there’s 21 of us and we average 2+ all year long. Obviously at this time of year we aren’t quite at 2$pm Most of us are home every weekend. Most of us make 2000-3500$ per week and that’s after all expenses. Truck trailer fuel insurance etc... Maybe consider a smaller company where you aren’t just a number.
You just made me realize something, it's the truckers with good math skills that make the best money!
+BigDish101
Good math and being able to think outside the box
Seriously- gotta make sure you invest in a good calculator
True
Basic math at that! ...Valid point!
His math is off, along with his maintenance expenses and logic. Its a good video, but its not very accurate. If you're going to put on those miles, your goals should be higher.
It's nice to watch a video where the guy isn't chewing, or vapin' or dragging on a smoke. Thanks for using complete sentences and thinking your videos through before posting them. Thumbs up.
+James Claptrap Thank You
James Claptrap agree
THANK YOU !!! I was feeling the same way at all the 'rap video' BULLSHIT I kept running into trying to do some serious research. Its so tiring and played out. This is A GREAT CHANNEL !! thanks for upload..ill be tuning in to this dude !
+Eddy Spagetti
Thanks for watching
Eddy Spagetti totally agree
finally a few guys are making trucking videos about trucking thank you
say Mr... i appreciate your diligence...and sharing your knowledge....KEEP ON TRUCKING .MAY GOD BLESS YOUR BUISNESS!
Good info, well presented, but as a company driver, I net (put in my pocket) weekly $950 to $1350 weekly with an average of $1050. Go out 5 to 6 weeks, then take off 4 to 6 days. Regional driver. No greenbelt. No contract. No risk. Just do what you say, be dependable and represent the company well. So, after taxes and all benefit costs, make more than your saying with full health for my family along with life insurance etc...what am I missing?
Exactly. This why owner ops should never accept rates lower than $2.00/mile and should be aiming for $2.50+. No need to let the brokers get rich while your only making out as good as a company driver with lots response responsibility and headache
Oil field you'll gross 10k+ a month as a company driver. Granted there's labor involved and now it's slowing down..but still..plenty of driving jobs out there to make good money if you're not afraid to work..
Not everyone wants to be an employee. Small shop owners in your hometown aren't all getting rich either.
I'm thinking this is his lowest acceptable level of income when freight is low. I say that bc i too have a bottom dollar thats about $1500 a day. If I have to sit somewhere and it's not loading/unloading or taking my 10hr break I'm sitting at home. I've ran $1800-$2200 loads with 300 plus miles dead head that del the same day, some next day morning. I also ran $700-$900 loads with same day deliveries some locally that keeps me above my bottom dollar. I don't really look at how much a load pays per mile per say., I look to see if I can deliver it the same day. If not I just divide the rate by the pickup and delivery times *dates* if it's above my bottom dollar I book it. If it's close to my bottom but it's going to a bad area I turn it down unless I'm going home and it can cover the fuel to get me there.
With everything you said, company guys are the same way. I accept every load I’m offered. Long hauls, super short hauls etc. plenty of guys at the company I work for, will refuse loads they don’t like and then they sit there all day. Also, because I accept all the loads I can, lm always busy, because the company knows they can give me any loaf and I’ll take it. So it’s a win for them and a win for me. Too many truck drivers are too short sighted.
Great Video Dan. I remember when i drove, i would do a few 300 mile runs from Wednesday to Monday. When i returned to where i started, there were guys still waiting for that LONG run. Funny thing was, i drove 1500 miles in a few days times making that money while they sat. They complained and i think i even got a long run before these 5 that were waiting around.
A person that's not willing to work will starve in the end.
Do what others aren't willing and win.
Thanks Dan.... you are the man.
Drive safe and get that $5 per mile when you can. Drive less and earn more.
I'm not a truck driver and I shouldn't be watching but your logic is impeccable. Great thinking.
Excellent video. I run with mercer doing flatbed and I have been here over a year now. I live in South Carolina so I see a lot of those short mile runs paying good. Great tips. I run my truck the exact way you describe. I also picked up some good information from you. Thanks for that. Keep doing what you are doing.
thanks for watching
Michael Jones II what going Michael. I'm just putting truck on with Mercer. Heard some good things. Just checking to see how's it going so far with you. I know different strokes for different folks.
Mike Jones II how much you make on average ?
I'm with Mercer also and out of Beaufort, SC. January and February are historically slow months and I sat every weekend and didn't have one tarp load. Still made $563 a day in January. The money is there with Mercer even when freight is down. Now the trick is getting something that pays going home.
Excellent Dan! You did a very good job of explaining the fixed costs. When setting parameters with your dispatcher I guess you could say you'll deadhead a certain distance and then consider the rate and mileage once you are given the details.
Looking forward to more good stuff.
Gord,
Vancouver
+Gord Stone
Thanks for watching
good video Dan this is what I like people that give very good informative information I hope people check you out and learn some lessons before they start stressing about a truck
+HT logistics3434
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HT logistics3434 hello
Wow! You got your ducks in a row! Great thinking; makes complete sense to me. Thanks for the education.
Hey Dan great job on the videos! I am also so glad to you see being professional and not your typical truck driver. You are rare. Keep it up!
+Mike Bereck
Thanks for watching
I run into this type of calculation often and the biggest mistake new drivers make when making their estimations is that they leave out a *_MAINTENANCE FUND_* for their tires, PM’s, breakdowns, and miscellaneous. You will be surprised as to how many truck drivers lose everything simply because they didn’t have a maintenance account, so when the unexpected happens (and it will, it’s not if but when) they lose their shirts. Not to mention that the insurance wasn’t figured in to these numbers, and whether you’re leasing on to a company or running on your own authority because there’s extra costs involved that weren’t mention by this Super Trucker.
Thank you for being straight up with numbers I know these are estimates, but great job. This is exactly how I think when working. People say why and I say I'm making money. That's where it matters and I enjoy it also..
Your right on . Thank you.
+Edgar Gonzalez
Thank you for watching
Great video. In short; keep moving,just be smart about it.
Those wheels gotta turn. You'll win some and lose some. The goal is to win more than you lose. Earning a 'lil bit will still bring in the money you're gonna need at the end of the month.
You explained it very well! I like how you look at a big picture and knowing your goal. The load per mile and the dead head is well explained. Thank you!
You just showed the intelligence of truckers, shoot PICTURES and math all in one video. HEY you guys know the difference of a trucker and a puppy dog? The puppy stops whinning after a couple months.
This made complete sense! I am hoping to find a video about plugging the holes. A leaky bucket breaks a lot of small businesses. Controlling expenses/managing costs needs to equal your management strategy. Great video! Well reasoned presentation.
Incredibly valuable info for a guy looking to get into the O/O game. Thank you so much.
New Sub...This might just be the best video on CZcams! this changed my hole thought process...can't wait to go back and check out your old video's
+Lee Simpson Thank You
Should check your hole.
I am looking to get in the trucking business I start school next month. Excited I think this is a good career move for me and the fam
Tee Breezy how did it work out?
Tee Breezy stick with it
Tee Breezy are you doing well?
dan you got him working every day---no way????stephen from mich---retired many yrs ago--million miler--in my time we had it easy---yes we did !!!--great vidos good work--thanks
If the wheels ain't turnin they ain't earnin.
No shit?
Ya ain't makin no bacon less the front wheels are shakin.
and they ain't churning...LOL
@@MrWisdom79 if your front wheels are shaking you might want to check your alignment
Your videos are excellent. Please keep them coming. I like the way you think on the money too. Simple but true.
+Nolan L Manley Jr Thank You
Thanx for information. Been driving 18 years as company driver. Thinking bout buying truck
+Matty P
Thanks for watching
Matty you look ripped brother!
Please read e myth. Consider if you would be better served buying your own truck or getting a better job? Good luck brother and go get it. I looked into it extensively and concluded for myself it's end up doing more work to make maybe$20k more a year. Not worth trading every free weekend working on the truck and getting loads for me. Not trying to stop you or discourage you I just see tons of guys get into it and run for 1/mi and go broke....
I agree with everything you say. I've been an owner operator since 1999 and drove part time from 1993. My dad, a 40 year O/O, taught me how to do it right. What prospective O/O's have to realize is that certain expenses (truck payment, insurance etc.) are fixed while others (fuel, maintenance etc.) vary. For this reason, you need to set aside a portion of each settlement as sort of an emergency fund. This way, if a major breakdown occurs, you can cover it and get rolling again. For new drivers, even fleet drivers, the best advice I can give is watch your hours and keep the left door closed! In other words, keep the truck rolling. How often do we hear drivers complaining that they're not making any money as we walk past the arcade in the truckstop on our way to the showers? If they were actually running down the road, maybe they'd make some money.
Setting your bottom line.
Great video.
+David Driver
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I'm thinking about being an owner opp and when I figured my bottom line I broke it down by mileage rate and knew that on my worst week I wanted to take home no less than $1,200 after taxes, overhead, and no less than $1,000/wk to add to my $20,000 start up maintenance acct. After doing all my calculations I found that I should never accept less than $2/mi and really need to be seeing 2.20+...2.40-2.52 is what I would consider good and any rates around 2.60-2.80 or more are excellent! Ik it's better to stay moving than not moving at all and sometimes you gotta settle for a less than adequate rate to get to a better lane that will make up for the cheaper rate so that it can average out to be a fair week overall but what you have to keep in mind is that these brokers are trying to keep as much as 50% of shippers going rate for their own pockets and their only overhead is a desk and a phone. My job is to do my best to negotiate a rate that allows them to keep no more than 25% being that I'm the one risking my life to haul it and have extremely higher overhead cost to account for than they do. It's not fair for them to get a better deal than me when I know what I'm worth and dont want to have to settle for anything less
You're right even back when this video was made a $1.50 is basically paying the bills but not making the truck anything. I operate locally, get paid hourly weather I'm running or sitting and home every night and even as far back as 2015 I was making anywhere from $105 to $130 per hour and grossing between $25,000 and $28,000 per month. The reason companies don't pay is because they don't have to when you have 100 guy's willing and fighting over the same cheap load. I charge slightly more than the other local guy's but the companies that hire me are always requesting me because I do a better job. You have to set yourself apart from the rest of the other guy's. It's 2022 now and depending on what I'm doing my truck makes an hourly rate of $120 minimum for a single trailer and I make as much as $180 per hour with double trailers.
@@clydeacor1911 I feel like a lot of owner operators are thinking they are making a good living while not realizing that there is much more to account for than just what you pay yourself and truck cost and fuel.
As a owner operator you have to make sure you are putting away a good amount for some sort of retirement since you are not getting a 401k or a Pension.
Also figuring in medical cost for a family is another $1000 per month.
Lets not forget that you still have to pay a good amount of taxes on top of all that as well. Yes there is many ways to keep taxes down but a good chunk needs to be set aside for it and not into your cost to say how much you are making to make it look higher.
Who wants to be on the road away from their family for a week or two or more making $800-$1200 a week that you put in your pocket while working 60+ hours a week driving.
You can make that right at home with benefits and 40hrs a week with benefits and retirement.
thank you for this video. as someone trying to figure numbers out to get into the game, it helps alot.
He is the SUPER TRUCKER!!! THANKS DAN
Wise words Sir. It all makes sense keep making that money 💵 no matter what at the end it will payout. Thanks for your input!
Awesome Video about a few essential aspects about being an O/O, with comparisons about tarping and strapping variations and benefits. What sitting at the truck stops waiting on a Bomb load really gets you in Dollars. Rather than running what works, everyday, smartly, in the big picture. Trucker Dan is Smart and Genuine.
+Kaleb Berend
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Great Stuff, I understand just need to get my experience driven as did transportation in the Military last 23yrs......thanks for your VLOG Dan.........Jay....
Thank you for the breakdown on expenses. It totally makes sense. It's a good system to use. Thanks again
Hi Dan, you are tinking the right way. I agree with everything you say. Keep it up.
Super helpful video!!! Way more professional and sophisticated than other explanations. Thank you!!!
I don't understand why you wouldn't just break it down in to a per mile expense. The more granular you can get it the more you see your true numbers and how everything is impacting your bottom line. If you hold 200 gallons of fuel and avg 7 miles per gallon that's 1400 miles @ x amount per Gallon. Then you factor in your fuel surcharge... All costs in my opinion should be broken down to the penny. Driving is what gets you paid therefore to the penny costs of everything from fuel, insurance, payments, maintenance, etc. You can put #s down on a paper and say you need to make X amount per day but how do you know if you really made that without factoring everything in correctly. You then can adjust accordingly depending on fuel prices. Knowing where to fuel up and when and calculating that in as some states are more costly than others. Profit and Loss is a must and every penny per mile counts.
+Matt H
A lot of my loads are short haul 300 miles or less. I calculate those loads by the hour. Ask your self how much is your time worth just not per mile rate. How would you rate a per mile rate on a load going 100 miles. I don't I Factor a per hour rate how many hours will it take me to complete. I would rather do a load paying $500 (which is my minimum rate) going 100 miles that takes 3 hrs to complete.
Basically run everyday for life if you want anything in life :) great advice and definitely enjoyed this video
This guy is a pro. Nice to see a business minded person making videos
thanks for the fast response. also thank you for showing us what a flatbed owner operator goes through
Great video man! You are really on top of the numbers. That's what people need
Excellent explanation for the uninitiated and ignorant or newbie such as myself... Penny wise can definitely be pound foolish !
Exactly right!😉BEST WAY IS FIND THE RIGHT KIND OF TRUCKING YOU ENJOY!😉 WHETHER ITS FLATBED OR REFER OR BOX OR TANKER ! AND AREAS YOU LIKE CROSSCOUNTRY OR REGIONAL ! AND ENJOY THE TRIPS BECAUSE IF YOUR NOT ENJOYING IT YOU'LL WASTE TIME INSTEAD OF BEING EAGER!😉😊😄/ i use to love going OUT WEST AND BACK TO ANYWHERE EXCEPT NY CITY!😄
Great way of thinking the numbers! Keep up the Great Work 💯.
Great video. Lots of truckers on CZcams say they are not making any money even though they run hard.
+Dave Smith
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If you run steady and don't have too much overhead you can do ok
Very informative video Dan! Thank you for this! Stay safe and keep the great videos coming 👍👍 hammer down
Hauling steel around Midwest I always tarped my loads, enjoyed tarping, and stopped periodically to check everything.
Thinking about becoming an owner op but looking for something dedicated. Gonna favorite this video. Very knowledgeable info. Thx
+Mr. Pink
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Dan you video is great. There are loads that pay more per day. I haul LTL, Expedite freight in the retail market. I move fitness equipment, and Anesthesia machine, also I get accessorial pay for long carry, inside delivery, debris removal, assemble & disassemble. My average load pay min 3.35 per mile. I also get paid 70 percent leaving the yard 90 percent on return loads.
there are load that are paying it depends on the type of market of freight you want to haul. In my opinion the retail market is the best market to be in, for one you are continuously moving daily
Dan your videos and experience are VERY appreciated. You have Fans in Italia Dan!
Wow this is the type of video and advice that I’ve been looking for.
Thank you so much 🙏
Nice video Dan.
Good of you to share the secrets of making money the wise way.
You are a hard working wise man.
You remind me so much of myself in my early days of working hard. I just kept the ticker going making money even though it was little. Many nickels make dimes many dimes make quarters many quarters make dollars many dollars make a millionaire.
What about food, taxes, tolls, insurance, down time, social security (if you ever get old. I did.) I started as an owner operator in the 70's. In the early 80's I decided to buy my first NEW truck. By then I had figured out how many miles per year average I ran with this company. Look back at my records and saw that it was doable. By the way, my numbers where much higher than yours, and keep in mind, that was in the 80's . Now, I have watch your other videos and know you've touch on some of this, but someone just starting out may not get the whole picture in this vid. By the late 90's with the prices on everything going up, and rates not keeping up, I sold my trucks and started driving a company truck for the same company. It was, and still is a great company. Anyway, I do enjoy your videos, and everyone has different priority's. Wishing you a happy holiday season and continued success.
You are so right, good way of thinking of it, another way to think of it the 2 days of 290 that you lost for sitting there has redistributed through your remaining days of the month. Hope that makes sense, good quality video.
Good info and tips. When I was trucking the terminology I used is FIXED COSTS. Everything you mentioned and I would add to the equation your insurance, per mile for tires, (that may fall under maintenance), registration, health ins, etc. At the end of the day, and year,it really reveals whether your margins are acceptable for yourself on top of the costs of running a trucking business.
+rooshooter yes Fixed Costs good term. I was just trying to hit on the main cost. Some times to much detail and people get lost. I was just trying to give simple formula to calculate how much you need to make to be profitable. A lot of young drivers get stars in their eyes thinking as soon as they have their own truck the money starts falling from the sky.
@@SuperTruckerdan First net after fuel:
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Awesome video trucker Dan. Sounds likes a lot of good advice. I’m wanting to become a owner operator, this helps me.
Definitely a driver that has his shit together... Great attitude too
It really helps alot to know how much truckers make on a flat bed trailer a mile I'm to go back to the DMV in pekin Illinois and get my CDL license and if I don't pass it this I'll start driving hot shot 30ft gooseneck trailer and go that way
This guys right. Other Drivers Sitting. My Fleet Manager would always take care of us. Keep Moving. Me and my co driver would take everything. Coming into where drivers were sitting. Our fleet manager would load or have a load waiting. Always took care of us. He new we didn't want to sit.
That was an awesome video Dan. I am most likely 2 years out from getting my own truck, and I am sure many things will change by then, but wow! what great incite. thank you.
I’m not even a truck driver and you made perfect sense to me dan 👍
Finally a guy who makes sense..i went threw a few vids,waist of time...this driver is what old schoolers call (BEAN COUNTING)..MICRO MANAGE EVERY MOVE AND TURN YOU AND YOUR RIG MAKES....
I’m @ MERCER too my friend .. everyone break down is different.. me personally I think 1.60 mile is very low. . . I’m here at MERCER in flatbed and make well over 2.00 a mile.
I need to make no less then 1.85 average. So if you only need 1.60 you doing good lol ...
mecer is a great company 👍🏻
I'm glad you're doing good. Remember this video is almost 2 years old. Rates have changed.
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I love your perspective on this. I'm 30 years of age and just now getting into the trucking industry. After a year or so, I wanted to go the route of an Owner Operator. Everything you've said in this vid makes perfect sense. Thanks for the informative video. Make that money and be safe out there man
Did you ever get into trucking?
@@vannwesson2751 Yes. I've been trucking going on 5 years now. 2 years locally/ heavy equipment operation and going on 3 years on a regional dedicated account. Get home daily and make good money. Which helps with my real estate investments.
Well put together video. Thanks so much for sharing your advice based on your experience. Love your videos.
Dan I agree with you on the costs but you forgot insurance , road and fuel taxes and the big one replacement /major repair of truck and trailer . Do not include your own pay. What O/O’s need to know is what it costs them per mile to operate per mile whether they are loaded or empty. You must pay the truck first. Your per mile rate will vary based on fuel cost but that is easy to calculate . Here’s an example based on 100k miles per year:
Fuel .75
Insurance .12
Maintenance .15
Truck payment .36
Trailer payment .10
Rd taxes .08
Major repair or replacement .25
Total is 1.88 per mile
Most people never account for a blown engine or having to buy a new truck or trailer. Owning your truck and trailer takes a significant chunk out of your operating cost. This is just an example everyone’s costs will be different depending on truck payment, fuel economy , insurance cost etc. however the categories in the accounting is the same. I forgot licensing renewal and 2290. So even if you do not have a truck and trailer payment your true cost per mile will range fro 1.30 - 1.60 per mile before you pay yourself.
Thank God you're SMART! I agree that you can make it without strange shit.
Your channel is called super trucker you should change that to the sensible trucker. You make a lot of good business sense. Great video.
This makes so much sense! So clear and right on how I'm thinking about my business! New subscriber!
Hi thanks for your view.
Im thinking of going driving and this vid really helped me out in my choice. Seem you get to be your own boss.
Thank you for all this useful information good man.
This helps me a lot because I'm trying to save money to buy a truck & trailer and be my own boss.
God Bless you brother.
I am wanting to get into trucking. I'm basically trying to find a company to train and hire me with my criminal background. Been difficult, but I still watch videos on the industry. I really enjoy your videos and I like your way of thinking. I have the same mindset. The place where I work had will ask people if they want to stay a couple hours over sometimes. So despite people groaning and saying "it's only like 40 bucks extra on your check", I still do it. I'm still using the same amount of gas to get home. I wouldn't earn that 40 dollars sitting at home for 2 hours. I always look for ways to make money. When you stop.. you don't make anything.
I think: you want to make money, you do what nobody else WANTS to do and do it WHEN nobody else wants to do it.
Just subscribed. Very informative, clear, concise content. Breath of fresh air. Look forward to future vids. Thank you Sir!
Another really interesting video. Would be interesting to hear your perspective on saving and paying off the truck and trailer as soon as possible--I realize that many driver's home situation just does not allow them to save that kind of money.
Thanks very much for the information Dan you just keep up the great work Buddy
So basically you make around 1000-1200 a weak extra stress for same pay as company work
These are just rough estimates ...
Some people bought their truck with cash
He missed insurance as expense on that numbers!!
@@JSAM700 usually carriers pay insurance
@@codexic if the carriers pays then he doesnt have he's own authority
I dont think he meant that's what he makes or made. I think he was just trying to show viewers some numbers they should shoot for or a formula to enter their personal numbers in so they can have a good idea on what they need to shoot for per day/week/month/year.
Great video Dan thanks. I'm getting started with Mercer. And you gave me some great tips. Keep them coming. And keep it between the lines.👍
I love the weekend last minute loads. I won't go less than $3.00 dollars per mile, leave it or take it...... Period!
100% agree with you u
im the same way
i thought he was kidding with thr 1.5$ per mile.... there are plenty of 2.75$+ per mile loads with 1000+ miles
hey man , u made a lot of sense and realistic thanks for the knowledge and insite. learned something new....
+MOE VEGA
Thanks for watching
Hey Super Trucker Dave like your videos pretty cool but I wanted to see if I can correct you a little bit, I don't think anybody out there wants to drive 30 days straight to make $500 a day eventually you going to have to go home so if I can recommend for you to change that to 3 weeks out of the month and a week of home time remember you got 34-hour reset thanks again God bless be safe
You are right on, Dan! It's all about income per day. Another CZcamsr, Jeffery Like, stresses the same things. You guys are among the few who emphasize the right priorities.
I like the process of coming up with the numbers, your coming up with. I would suggest changing Carriers that have better paying freight in lanes you want to or make your money on run. In most cases it, has been pointed out, the hos and normal trips your out of reasonable time in 6 days then a 34 break. Good points on deadhead, work days, and tarping. If your not going to due the job way are you doing it. Good video
Outstanding video lots of great information thanks for sharing.
Wow great video. Outstanding way to break that down. Thanks for the knowledge
The fuel expense don't stop either if you idle your truck all the time
Very nice Video, I make Expedite videos as well, I was told by one of my viewers to check out your channel, and it’s really nice I must say, now I will drive and watch your videos
Wait you mean to tell me your Pete doesn't get 15 mpg and have 8000 hp like everyone else's at the Petro ??? I think people might be lying to me just a bit. lol nice video.
+Hauling Ass
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LOL you have to watch out for them truck driver stories.
These numbers are missing many factors. Never does he add or calculate insurance, tags, road use tax, fuel tax, average fines / penalties, accounting, income taxes on your own pay, payroll company costs, phones, internet or data or any one of a number of other daily expenses like food or lodging on a long layover.
He also talks of calculating the expenses on a 30 day schedule. If you have ever driven truck, you know that it's impossible to run 30 days straight. You will always have a day or 2 here and there to either unload or pick up a load.
Someone said good math skills? Ummmmm... not really sure this guy covers the financial details quite accurately with a sharpie and a sheet of paper.
Great information, good way of thinking. You are pretty business oriented. Thanks
I don't have any Payments on my Truck, I do my own Maintenance work. So I get more money back too me and my Truck. I don't use ELD's or DEF, My truck is a 1974 Peterbilt 359-A
I'd rather be a company driver for a big company. Or a Teamster driving local making guaranteed 90k a year. I've seen too many owner operators and independents go out of business. The last straw is usually the breakdown in Jerkwater USA. Big tow truck bill, and just to get the estimate at the sketchy shop costs $900. Then the hotel stay while the shop has your truck and the shop charging you way too much for the repair that is poorly done. And then 500 miles later your radiator explodes in heavy fast moving traffic because the shop screwed up, and then you have to do it all over again in the next middle of nowhere town. True story.
Number one thing being an owner operator is you are not home as much as a company driver would be. I am in the process of moving into transport here in Australia driving Heavy Rigids and drivers doing o.t. doin 100k a year. I am happy with that. It isnt just your truck you gotta maintain,gotta keep your woman maintained if you know what I mean ;)
Very smart guy! Dead head miles are of no consequence. I run Arkansas to Texas weekly roughly 450 miles a day and average 2.05 all miles and dead head 150-250 miles every other miles.
Micah McPherson 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
Well done video. Love the numbers, exactly the way I go about it...
Great advice using your brain looking at the big picture 😎
good vid, I dont drive truck ,but I was always wondering how the trucking industry works ,thanks for explaining and good luck
Dude hats off to you and all the flatbed drivers. You guys do hard work. But I think you need to raise your standards. I drive a dry van and will not drive as cheap as you drive... I open and shut doors. No loading unloading tarping etc... you guys need to ask for more.
At our company there’s 21 of us and we average 2+ all year long. Obviously at this time of year we aren’t quite at 2$pm
Most of us are home every weekend. Most of us make 2000-3500$ per week and that’s after all expenses. Truck trailer fuel insurance etc...
Maybe consider a smaller company where you aren’t just a number.
simbad kadric is your company hiring?
excellant breakdown of cost! 2600 truck payment seems steep but 35 yrs ago trucks cost half what they cost now.😃
It helps.. that how I figured it sitting still makes money