Eric Carr Reveals: Other drummers ripped off his drum solos
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- In this interview excerpt from May 16, 1991, KISS's second drummer reveals other drummers have used his electronic drum solo ideas. Eric Carr also talks about his solo on during the 1990 the Hot in the Shade tour, and recording a drum solo on future releases.
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Saw him many times, always sounded like thunder with his double bass. Long live the memory of the 🦊 Fox!
I agree! I can still remember the sound of his double basses in concert. Eric's drum solo was like a thunder storm
Seen almost every great metal drummer that ever lived. Eric is right there at the top with the best. When he did his patented run around the outside of the kit, that blew my mind! The guy was very gifted as a musician. We'll never forget you brother.
I saw Kiss on the Asylum and the Crazy Nights tours, Eric was really great and the shows were great as well.
I saw him play in Melbourne Australia 1980.
If I could go back in time and see any KISS concerts...it would be Sydney, 1980 Brazil, 1983 and The Summit 1977👍
@@rustyblades2566three excellent choices I totally agree but what about the show at Coventry
I'd like to go see the 77 show in Japan.
Glad I saw every Kiss tour from Asylum to Hot in the shade with the MIGHTY ERIC CARR! He deserved so much better from Paul. We all know he runs Kiss. I saw Eric's last tour on the exact day I graduated from high school in Chicago. He died broken hearted. You know attitude is half the battle when fighting any illness. Especially cancer. I wonder if Paul,Gene,Bruce would have put Kiss on hold to be by his side. In the fight of his life. If he would have survived. What a huge impact he had on the sound of Kiss.
Paul then to repeatedly disparage him in his book. Calling him a schmuck and insulting him. Just showed how much of a coldhearted narcissistic asshole he is. Replacing Eric after 10 years in the band on his deathbed.
Unfortunately, heart cancer is always terminal. My research found that people survive about a year after diagnosis. There is not successful treatment for it. As for Paul's book, he didn't have anything nice to say about anybody.
I saw him on Lick IT UP TOUR once. ANIMALIZE twice. ASYLUM once. All NY shows. Moved to FLORIDA late 87. Missed CRAZY NIGHTS Tour. Not a fan of the set list anyway. Caught HOT IN THE SHADE ORLANDO. Saw ERIC 5 times. I miss him. RIP..😢❤
Wow, that's fantastic you saw Eric play that many times. You saw the evolution of his drum solo
Thank you.I would say my fave was ASYLUM NY MSG.. That KISS sign lit up the GARDEN like you were standing in the kitchen.!! Also ANIMALIZE Poughkeepsie NY. I was one of the lucky few to see the late great MARK ST JOHN..ah the memories.. PEACE OUT..
I copped a few things in my solo from him, too. Eric's solos are like songs, very memorable.
Glad I got to see Eric live.
Where did you see him play?
@@ericcarrrevealed I saw kiss on the LIU and Crazy Nights tours in the uk
@@booshting3520 Nice! Both were fantastic tours
Me too! Saw him on the Animalize, Crazy Nights, and Hot In The Shade tours. And the HITS show was at MSG…what turned out to be his last live show w/KISS, before he passed. I still have the ticket stub. I play guitar, and I still find myself saying out loud; “Damn! I miss that guy’s drumming!” Followed by; “God Bless Eric Carr.”🙏🏽🥁🤘🏽
Me to, Eric and Kiss were great in the 80s.
Eric Carr was using fast double kicks since the late 70s and now look at how many people use them I think the only other drummer was Neil peart using them too in the 70s
Actually, Eric started playing double kicks in 1968. He was inspired by Ginger Baker's playing on the first Cream album. Then Bonham came along and played just as quickly using a single kick. That really inspired his playing!
what like eric car invented fast double kicks ?......... yeah right , never heard one drummer say they were influenced by eric carr ! ,maybe plenty of KISS fans who took up drums yes , but if those drummers were fans of the actual music of the band KIss then hey were clueless about music in general, regarding this crap as music can only do a musician harm .
@@philipchurchill6508 dude believe what you want Eric was a good drummer I worked with a lot of drummers and they all respected him so who do you think is such a better drummer than him.
@@philipchurchill6508 No, Eric wasn't talking about playing double kick. He was talking about programming electronic drums to play power chords. A few drummer did that after seeing Eric's concerts.
That’s simply not accurate. The list is long… start with Terry Bozzio, Neil Peart, Carmine Appice, Ginger Baker, Simon Phillips, Phil Taylor from Motörhead, Chester Thompson and so on.
Eric!
If you look first generation Death Metal drummers even on some patterns like Possessed in Beyond the gates album, Mike Browning when already in Morbid Angel in 1984-1986, and Nocturnus in 1989..
Igor Cavalera in 1987-1990.
And Lars Ulrich in 1991-1992 !
I felt Eric Carr's drum solo sounded a lot like Barry Brandt the drummer from Angel - KISS label mates at Casablanca .Go listen to Angel live without A Net album from 1980 and listen to the song White lightning and the drum solo from Barry Brandt in the middle of that live track.
I saw this show in Mansfield Massachusetts and I swear they played little Caesar but apparently they only played it once on this tour. But I remember Paul Stanley giving Eric the Mic for one song and it wasn't Beth And I swear Paul said it was little Caesar. But then again that was also the name of the band that opened up before slaughter so maybe he was talking about them I don't know It was so long ago. And I have literally seen hundreds of concerts.
Paul likely introduced Eric to sing Black Diamond. Here's the set lit for the Mansfield show on June 29, 1990: www.setlist.fm/setlist/kiss/1990/great-woods-center-for-the-performing-arts-mansfield-ma-4bd36b62.html
@@ericcarrrevealed I understand that that is what the scheduled printed setlist says. But I thought I heard little Caesar live for years before I ever heard that they played it live once. Hearing that is what made me check up on it.
It stands out in my memory because it was one of the only kiss songs I didn't really know
I wish things could have been better on both sides! Eric was the bomb but he was his j I ended worse enemy in his mind there was always more going on then what there really was. And Paul being the leader should have broke down those barrier and he just did not realize how bad it was and in his mind he did not want it to be as real as it was and thought it would be would get better he did admit that after he realized that kiss was Eric’s life and he should have known that. Takes guts to admit you screwed up and announce that to everyone.
Who was he referring to, in terms of drummers ripping him off?
I know the guy from Skid Row did a solo that had parts that were 100% identical to what Eric did but I dont remember if that was before or after Eric died
had he not done the same old solo every time then he would not have been so easy to rip off !
I think Eric is taking mostly about using electronic drums to create almost a song during his solo. He really evolved how he used them beginning on the Asylum tour through to the Hot In The Shade tour. It just shows how musically talented he was.
Bill Bruford was way ahead of him.
@@ericcarrrevealed Tommy Lee used pads on the Theater of Pain tour in 1986
I don't think anyone ripped him off.
No one did. Let’s get a grip. Eric was a good drummer and vastly better than Peter. But he was not an influential drummer. I’ve never heard a single, professional, caliber drummer say that they were influenced by Eric…just the facts ma’am.
@@andrewkarp5067 I fully disagree. I know for a fact Eric was a huge influence on avenged sevenfolds drummer. The reason why you don't hear of any is because you have not looked into it. Kiss is one of the most influential rock bands in the world and of all time. So to say that no one has ever said Eric Carr inspired them is absolutely hilarious to me
@@hollandrocksls Avenged Sevenfold lol.
@@FourHandGuy not really sure what is funny about that
@Mike Davis that's am opinion. The band itself still tours huge arenas and festivals making millions a year and are well established studio musicians. I know nowadays everyone thinks that their opinions are what matters, but your opinion don't mean anything.
Saw every tour but he was on with them except one he was an absolute beast
And no matter what these musicians do it's like Steve Vai vs slash...who can write the HITS....
Exactly
Don't mention a a mediocre player like Saul Hudson in the same sentence with the little Italian virtuoso Stevie Vai that's an insult
@@FourHandGuyexactly what all this dude is doing is insulting Steve Vai by mentioning Saul Hudson in the same sentence lmfao 😂😂
Which drummer ripped off Eric's drum solo? Im sure Eric ripped from others too. All musicians do to a point
He doesn't which drummers, and you are correct that all musicians are inspired by others
I saw a Skid Row live video where the drummer played almost exactly the same parts as Eric during his solo
Really cute there were other drummers ripping off Eric's solo. If you can't be original don't bother
What a waste..Eric Carr was Great..R.I.P.
Agreed, but he left behind some fantastic recordings, particularly his drumming on Creatures of the Night, his electronic drum solos, and his vocals and songwriting skills on Rockology
Puleeze....Bill Bruford was doing this WAAAY before Eric Carr was.
I agree that Eric wasn't the first to use electronic drums in his live shows. But Eric did bring it to a new generation of fans and drummers. It's not like today, where you could simply watch a CZcams video of past performances. And I don't know how many KISS fans in the late 1980s would have seen Bill perform in Yes in the early 1970s. Totally different fan base and too many years apart.
@@ericcarrrevealed Not YES brah....more like King Crimson. Bill bounced from YES in the 70s, started Bruford (my fave fusion band) and then used them in KC. There's lots of us who grew up with KISS, got into fusion and prog rock, and still respect KISS because we they were our first influence. No harm, no foul...but to say people "ripped him off" for using Simmons (or whatever kit he used) is kind of misleading....probably more like EC was influenced by them, and other prog rock/fusion pioneers.
PS I like your channel...found out the other day that Gene and Paul also trashed Eric the same way they did Vinnie and of course, Ace and Peter. His wife/GF had a lot to say about how they acted when EC was dying of cancer.
Anyway, thanks for the vids...been getting into a lot of KISS nostalgia lately.
What Bruford did was very different from what Eric was doing. What Eric was doing was more accessible to the average rock listener. Eric also stuck to a general format or outline, etc. Bruford was more of a jazz drummer. Bruford lived in the moment and had that approach. I love Bruford, he is an absolute artist, but it was apples & oranges. Cozy Powell also did a solo on electronic drums in ELP.
@@johnsoos6907 Even Peter Criss was dabbling with electronic pads in his solo during the Dynasty tour though not nearly as musical or creative as BB or EC.
@@joeybill5856 True. Peter was hit or miss on that tour.
I thought Peter's kiss alive ll God of thunder solo was basic..but awesome!!! It had structure and as far as technique Eric singer is kiss's best...sorry Carr fans..
He's probably better now but his timing used to wander quite a bit in his earlier years with Kiss. I was at a Singer drum clinic once and he was preaching practising with a metronome or click track. I remember thinking, dude if you need a click track maybe you shouldn't be a drummer. 🙂
I prefer the ALIVE II drum solo to one on ALIVE!
😱 I was at this show in Pittsburgh Star Lake Amphitheater.