I'm glad everyone is OK, that must have been a scary collision! The mini did a sudden lane change without warning and I can't see how this accident could easily be avoided. Possibly changing lane when further back so the Mini has more time to be aware of an approaching car on their right side, of course they should check before changing lane, but it may possibly reduce the chances of this happening. I counted frames and got a 0.76 second following distance before the lane change which is actually fairly typical for most drivers but 2 seconds is recommended. The wide angle lens makes the Mini look further ahead than it is which is why it's important to check the time gap not how it looks. I hope the instructor isn't too shaken up and manages to get back to normal soon.
I agree it was a bit of a sudden change by the instructor. Personally I would have changed lanes as the instructor did but *not* overtake the mini, as people in the left lane are always looking to move to the right to let the slip road merge. Even still the accident was 99% the mini driver's fault, no indication, just a sudden swerve to the right. Good on the instructor for being able to keep control at that speed. Love your videos by the way (from a learner driver) :)
The only problem with you slowing down to let people merge is they might slow down too, in order to get behind you. Before you know it you’ve both slowed down to 40mph in a ‘braking war’ and nearly caused an accident for another reason. Seen it happen a few times.
@joshuatk59 I had to go into a mini run off to avoid one on the last North slip entry after Little Brickhill after the typically British after you from both drivers. Overtaking cars in RHS. Thankfully I didn't end up in the grass and drove on as if nothing happened afterwards.
@@joshuatk59 The thing to do is keep your speed, cars merging should slot in front or behind. If there's clearly no space, and the car is ahead a bit and doesn't seem to be speeding up, then ease off the accelerator. However, if it's literally next to you, floor the accelerator, as it might be one of those muppets that thinks there's no need to check blind spots - that way, you're past the problem. Just return to normal speed soon afterwards.
I'm really sorry to hear about the accident that happened. In my opinion, driving is a serious responsibility and I have a lot of respect for you guys on how you detail your situations to help other drivers that may need advice on driving.
Yes you’re absolutely right, driving is a very serious responsibility as if you’re distracted for even just a second and take your eye off of the road for even a second you could easily seriously hurt someone or even kill them.
@@WayneTulip-zm9gw exactly. I struggled with confidence on driving in the UK and due to my autism and stress I had on driving, I decided to permanently quit driving in the UK, and sort of hope that in America, driving is better here
The driving instructor did plan ahead, however he could have anticipated the Mini also would pull out and instead on trying to pass the Mini he could have pulled out to lane two and held back to give space for the Mini to move out. That was my first thought when I watched the video once. I still hold that mind set after watching it again a few times
yep, personally I change lane 1 to lane 2 before merging traffic. but I keep staggered formation in lane 2 with lane 1 traffic. Sadly some tailgaters did not get it why. and I overtake or return to lane 1 after the hazard "merging traffic is behind". In this video the driver in lane 1 can really keep in lane 1 without any problem.
Ok instructor could have done this but why on earth mini is pulling sharply to his lane , no planing no warning . That mini driver clearly has no idea how to drive safely. Good example of first rule of driving “ think everyone is going to behave like idiot”
Technically, the instructor did nothing wrong, but..... Lack of judgement by pulling out and overtaking just before merging traffic (which might be unseen) unnecessarily increased the level of risk. A momentary lack of anticipation and asking ahead, what could happen here. We've all had drivers pull out into your lane without looking. All you can do is try and preempt what might happen. The mini driver was doing what they thought best (albeit incompetently) by giving room to the car entering, even if it is the car entering who is responsible for doing that safely. It's a balancing act - we all appreciate being given room, but, occasionally, the converse also happens where the odd driver will not, even if they have acres of space to do so. Driving is a cooperative task.
Thank you for highlighting the dangers and misconceptions. There are so many bad habits out there on the road. Particularly motorways. Shame about the accident but good no one was hurt. also thank you for showing the importance of keeping aware and alert.
Nice video, bad luck for your instructor, happy everyone was ok, he indeed handled that collision like a pro. As a HGV driver slip roads that join are one of my main concerns and I tend to be hyper vigilant. Many drivers just pull out right in front of me so I always make a point of being ready when approaching a joining slip road. I occasionally get drivers overtaking me before an exit slip, then dart directly in front of me to exit, those moments always make me hold my breath, some people are so impatient and to risk yours and others lives just for a few seconds is crazy to me.
I'm glad both instructor and passenger are unharmed. Thank you for sharing this video clip and reaffirms the importance that when driving on roads you make real decisions affecting all drivers and users travelling on the road.
Brilliant video, this is exactly the kind of information I want to get out of lessons but is sometimes difficult to get. Best driving instruction channel on CZcams!
I was just viewing your video to show a friend how to merge, well done, I particularly like how you are explaining all the things a responsible driver needs to think about.....
Thanks, very interesting, I've subscribed. I'm 80 and don't drive much these days, so I watch dashcams to keep alert to what can happen. I'm happy you emphasised "anticipation" it's one of the most important skills we have. Anticipation (and stereotyping) would have told me to be aware of the Range Rover entering from the sliproad. Their owners tend to be more important than other people.
Although not overtaking a car at a slip road is great safe advice, in your instructor's defence, that car was a lot slower than him, so he would have had to slow right down from like 70 mph to 50mph to follow that car for a short distance and then overtake once past the slip road. It doesn't sound like much but in reality its a pain lol
Good job by the instructor for keeping the car under control and bringing it to a safe stop. That shows they are well in control of their car. Many accidents are made much worse because people panic and lose control after an impact. I agree with everything in your analysis. Sometimes I try to think how can i maximise the time i am visible in someone's mirrors and reduce the time i am in their blind spot...
I've been driving mostly on highways for the duration of my restricted lisense and I've found that checking mirrors for far vehicles is best, and looking around for anyone close is what has kept me safe. Everytime I see big trucks I'm always checking around me before making room, sometimes by moving to the merge lane so I don't need to brake to 7-80 kmph. Some truck drivers do a terrible job at matching the traffic speed
It looked like the Mini first saw the car on the slip road, his attention being on the left side he signaled right, you can briefly see the mini's right indicator turn on just as the instructor's car was on the mini's side (mini's right indicator 1:11 blinked once before the instructor car was about to be side by side by it). But then the mini just changed lane after signaling and probably not doing a mirror check. Had the mini done a mirror check, he wouldn't just change lane all so suddenly. Hope everyone and everything is okay. Drive safe out there.
Glad the drivers involved were both ok. I recently had my first accident since passing a year ago, thankfully only at 10mph and only cosmetic damage. Other driver pulled out from a side road without looking in my direction. I’ve learnt from it too, thought I was being observant but am now paying even more attention of other drivers at junctions.
Really really sorry you had an accident! So glad everyone is ok!😮 The driver in a mini is responsible for the accident by simply because he/she did not check their mirrors or blind spot thoroughly and this is why I leave enough gap or move onto the middle lane if it’s absolutely safe to do so to let cars merge onto the carriageway
As an ADI, should have clocked the joining vehicle before coming out from behind that mini, whilst the mini was technically at fault for lack of observations, that instructor could/should have anticipated what was going to happen, I saw it a mile off with no formal advanced driver training or anything
absolutely shocking driving from the instructor. could see that was going to happen and should be anticipating. . always give people room to move out near slip roads
I will start saying massive thanks for your video. Today I passed my driving test wit zero fault . I was watching your video every day, I'm very proud of you God bless you.
The overtake the instructor was completing was done at a high differential speed. The Mini moved out very early but it closed across to the white lines very slowly. At the speed the mini was travelling it was probably slower or around the same speed as the joiners and judging by traffic density would have easily merged with the joiners in lane 1.
I have heard that half of all collisions occur close to a junction, which is why you should avoid overtaking at a slip road or any other kind of junction. This incident is a good illustration of that.
As a motorcyclist I knew it was the red mini before it happened, cars arnt as agile as bikes to swerve. I never assume because I treat everybody like they are drunk. I do not like to be infront of a lorry so I do my best to get out of that situation as soon as possible.
Obviously mistake is with the mini cooper, but your instructor could've avoided over taking the car exactly at the slip road. Glad that you also mentioned this point in your video. Respect 🙏👍
Apart from theoretical rules, in the real world there are quite a few layouts where the safest place to be is to the right of any slip lane, or merger lane parallel with another slip. There are plenty of short slip lanes after a sharp curve, on which there is always a wide speed difference with most things - although there were not any in this demonstration. Something like the Almondsbury interchange between the M4 & M5 are like this. A risk that would have occurred in this demo is being in a bind spot caused by a truck on the left while passing near a slip lane; not a good place to change from right to left, unless you are certain that there is nothing there. Indeed, it is possible that the one that was involved in the collision with the red mini was actually in it’s blind spot. A top end advanced way round that might have been to stay back a bit, or a brief warning horn and a rapid acceleration, perhaps, to avoid the risk!
Yeaj would have been avoided if the instructor had left options for the mini until it knew for certain it wasn't going to change lanes when it shouldn't. The theory doesnt cover ever real life scenario
Thanks! If you liked your previous instructor then contact them to continue lessons. If you didn’t - have a look for a new driving school. Good luck 🤞🏼
One reason I will avoid passing vehicles close to a slip road unless I am 100% sure there is nobody about to emerge. I will also avoid changing lanes to overtake as close as this so others are fully aware of the changes to traffic around them if they are not checking mirrors regularly. While it is down to the other driver to check and not just change lanes like they did, it is entirely possible the last check the driver did showed lane 2 to be clear and wrongly assumed it was still clear Overall there were a few things that could’ve been done by the instructor to avoid this regardless of fault such as being a little slower on the approach to the sliproad especially with changing lanes as close to the Mini and sliproad but ultimately the fact everyone is OK is a good outcome for any collision
05:10 I like to call it the staggered formation, no matter what road you’re on, single carriageway, dual carriageway or motorway, never be next to another vehicle, always be staggered, you can’t really do that say for example at a red traffic light on a single carriageway road with 2 lanes going in the same direction and there are 5 cars in lane 2 and no cars in lane 1, you have to use all of the space in lane 1 and get right up to the traffic light to improve traffic flow but you can wait until the car next to you pulls off first, that way you aren’t undertaking them and also then you’ll be staggered. 🙃
Driving side-by-side with other traffic is an unnecessary risk, as they could change lanes without warning. We always recommend 'keeping diagonal' to other vehicles whenever possible!
Actually the highway code only states that the joining traffic 'should' give priority to traffic on the main carriageway, BUT at the same time, the traffic on the main carriageway 'should' move over to allow joining traffic if lane 2 is clear.
The mini didn't observe or move well. I wonder why the instructor didn't move to lane 2 @ about 0:37 rather than 0:42 ? What was his following distance by 0:41 ?
The dual carriage way closest to me scares me as you have to use the middle lane. The left Lane is for local traffic. I only passed a month ago and have only braved it very recently as I hate being in the middle lol how soon after joining should I get into the middle lane? Soon after joining or would it be best to stay on the left and then move over to the middle lane as I get closer to the exit for local traffic? If the first one should I move straight over (if it’s safe) to the left lane after passing the exit before the one I need? Or stay in the middle until I’m approaching the exit I need? I know when to signal to leave but I’m never sure how soon I should move over. I have to start using it more now to take my daughter to her swimming lesson but it’s something I’m anxious about. I should have learnt to drive years ago, I’m 34!! I wish I hadn’t put it off as now I’m learning (after passing) with two kids in the back seats yelling at me 😅
We would drive on the left lane (unless overtaking of course) and only change lanes once traffic signs indicate you should. Getting into the middle lane too early might frustrate following traffic and cause danger.
I was joining a freeway and the car coming up could of changed lanes but didn’t I slowed down, then he slowed down I was close to having to stop on the slip road…the car that wouldn’t let me in was a police car..😮😮😮😮
How the instructor kept his cool? Did he immediately used brakes or only changed gears to calm down? Or what should have been done in case such situation. Very happy all safe. Best of luck Thanks
Would sounding the horn have benefitted both drivers - its clear the mini driver is drifting across. the instructor could have slowed down to mitigate the accident.
Yes as soon as the minni was drifting in its lane and are passed it's time to give a warning of your presence . They drift they are not aware . Would you rarther be beeped at hit. We are all human and can miss something
If I'm joining from slip road and because slip road are short I'll have to take whatever gap is available. What if nobody adjust their speed to let me in, where I'm supposed to go? Brake hard and stop?
If you can't get in you do have to stop. Happens a lot on a slip road near me where traffic is always busy, but it's also slow so easier to get on from stationary.
@Arcangeline I've never seen anybody stop on slip road and if I'm ment to stop there how likely is it that I'll crash... what is the point of slip road if I have to stop
@Arcangeline it sint happening if that person slams on the braked they still going over the line if travelling at 70 if atvspeed they can stop they are too slow . Never in 30 years if driving ever had to slam on the brakes to stop . The thing is everyone should work together to make safe to join. The car joining has the biggest responsibility but that doesn't mean if on the motorway do something to prevent the merge
What was the instructor thinking? People do not always observe priorities. He should have seen the two cars on his left approaching the same point and predicted the mini could take avoiding action without using either their mirror or indicator. I would not have overtaken on by the slip road when there was a car on it and another in the inside lane. This “instructor” should not be instructing.
These people have got it all wrong. You made it clear at the beginning of your clip that those on the carriageway have right of way, people should not have to brake or be forced to move over, they wait until there is a sufficient gap in the traffic to flow into then proceed. Its also surprising how many don't speed up when joining the carriageway and just bimble on, plus lately I've seen a huge gap and the vehicle joining leaves it to the last minute to merge in Why should you avoid overtaking when there is a slip road joining, it's all about being aware, not enough people on our roads are aware. If I may say your driving instructor was a little late pulling out to overtake, I always pull out sooner then this sort of incident should not happen plus if you do leave it late to overtake and they also move over you could hit them. If he'd have pulled out sooner, he may have been spotted At 6.23 why haven't you pulled back to the inside lane
Why overtake when there is a much increased risk that someone will make a mistake (that anyone can make on a bad day - anyone) and pull out without checking their blind spot / seeing you. You don't know the level of experience or even distraction of the driver around you - if you don't know for sure you've been seen you should be anticipating that you haven't been and act carefully to protect yourself and everyone else too. The Mini didn't have to move at all and they could have just adjusted their speed slightly to let the other car in, to take care of everyone on the road. But at a slip road entry would be the number one place I'd expect people to be changing lanes without warning & without looking properly on the motorway, just the same as you can anticipate last-minute lane changes as the entrances to slip roads. You shouldn't proceed as if those don't happen just because the people doing those poor maneuvers are in the wrong, you need to look after yourself and everyone else on the road.
I'm not even sure that the mini needed to change lanes here, looked like there was enough room for the slip lane car to merge before it and maintain a safe gap. Was it an instructor driving or a student?
There was no need for the Mini to do anything - the other car would have merged safely in front of it. It was an instructor driving the car that got hit.
All the mini had to do was stay put and maybe knock 2 mph off if thier . If in lane should assrs who is joining and also asses who is the right lane . Then can decide what options you have. Which are do nothing ease a little to create a bigger space in front or speed up to make a bigger space or change lanes if can do safely
I think your instructor's driving was careless. They got so close to the vehicle in front before overtaking such that they could not have possibly stopped safely if the other driver braked sharply. They also overtook approaching a road junction which The Highway Code tells you to not do.
Should of been mindful of the lorry, traveling at 55 didn't really help when they can only do 57 at best I guess he /she was as critical of you as you were of them. 70 isnt a target the outside lane was clear and conditions good you could have gone a little faster as not to come into conflict with the lorry.
I have been driving manual for 6 months now . I had an automatic car before and I used it for 8 years . Even though shifting into manual driving was very challengeable at first after being driven automatic for 8 years finally I got the hang of it ,but very recently when was driving on 3 gear I wanted to shift into 2 gear accidentally I shifted into 4 gear instead of 2 gear car stalled a little bit , then I shifted into neutral and shifted into correct gear, 2 gear. What I want to know is whether that mistake could have damaged the car ? This is the first time I did such a thing.
That won't have caused any damage. The most common way to damage an engine is shifting into a lower gear than you want - for example selecting 2nd instead of 4th, as it could increase the engine speed too far. Avoid that!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Can block changing be done on old cars , manufactured in 1995 ? Once my mechanic said that block changing would ruin the car over time . Is that true ? Just imagine I drive on 4 gear and I want to shift into 2 , then is it ok to shift into neutral and move to 2 gear ? Will it cause any damage ?
Block gear changing is fine in any car, as long as you change the cars speed before you change gear. Here’s a video to explain: Block Gear Changing: czcams.com/video/oI2kN1IvNnc/video.html
I won't slow down to let them on, because there's a danger that they'll just carry on at that speed and I'll be stuck behind them. Of course it's an entirely different matter when they just barge out! I have seen some appalling stunts pulled on the Motorway we've been probably moments from disaster.
You wont be struck behind them . Lets say they are in front and can go in front and no 1 is behind and by lifting off the gas for 2 seconds to make a safer gap fo you do nothing especially whem they are in front travelling at the same speed. If you cant change lanes in the motorway you shouldn't use
Not a good idea to approach a junction with 2 lanes of traffic with poor speed differential. I suggest one of you shoul decide whi goes where. That fact you say: i don't know what he is doing " shows that you have poor concept of HGv movements. You are supposed to be more flexible with small car and smaller waistlines .that truck weighs empty 17 tonnes, 17 of your not so sporty car. You need to be well ahead or behind to reduce a hazardous situation which can decompensate in 5 seconds. Talking to camera while driving is not best wither. I see that every day. Concentrate on traffic.
highly edited there are cars and lorries disappearing and then reappearing all over ! but the accident was not helped by the advanced driver but not caused by him
I'm glad everyone is OK, that must have been a scary collision! The mini did a sudden lane change without warning and I can't see how this accident could easily be avoided. Possibly changing lane when further back so the Mini has more time to be aware of an approaching car on their right side, of course they should check before changing lane, but it may possibly reduce the chances of this happening. I counted frames and got a 0.76 second following distance before the lane change which is actually fairly typical for most drivers but 2 seconds is recommended. The wide angle lens makes the Mini look further ahead than it is which is why it's important to check the time gap not how it looks. I hope the instructor isn't too shaken up and manages to get back to normal soon.
I agree it was a bit of a sudden change by the instructor. Personally I would have changed lanes as the instructor did but *not* overtake the mini, as people in the left lane are always looking to move to the right to let the slip road merge.
Even still the accident was 99% the mini driver's fault, no indication, just a sudden swerve to the right. Good on the instructor for being able to keep control at that speed.
Love your videos by the way (from a learner driver) :)
@@hqund7816 Best of luck on your journey to driving!
Glad everyone is ok. Despite having the priority, I always slow down a bit and let people merge, just to avoid situations like this.
The only problem with you slowing down to let people merge is they might slow down too, in order to get behind you. Before you know it you’ve both slowed down to 40mph in a ‘braking war’ and nearly caused an accident for another reason. Seen it happen a few times.
@@joshuatk59Slowing doesn’t mean coming to a halt.
@joshuatk59 I had to go into a mini run off to avoid one on the last North slip entry after Little Brickhill after the typically British after you from both drivers. Overtaking cars in RHS. Thankfully I didn't end up in the grass and drove on as if nothing happened afterwards.
Just carry on at normal speed because the person behind you is tailgaiting you if you do decide to slow down.
@@joshuatk59 The thing to do is keep your speed, cars merging should slot in front or behind. If there's clearly no space, and the car is ahead a bit and doesn't seem to be speeding up, then ease off the accelerator. However, if it's literally next to you, floor the accelerator, as it might be one of those muppets that thinks there's no need to check blind spots - that way, you're past the problem. Just return to normal speed soon afterwards.
I'm really sorry to hear about the accident that happened. In my opinion, driving is a serious responsibility and I have a lot of respect for you guys on how you detail your situations to help other drivers that may need advice on driving.
Yes you’re absolutely right, driving is a very serious responsibility as if you’re distracted for even just a second and take your eye off of the road for even a second you could easily seriously hurt someone or even kill them.
@@WayneTulip-zm9gw exactly. I struggled with confidence on driving in the UK and due to my autism and stress I had on driving, I decided to permanently quit driving in the UK, and sort of hope that in America, driving is better here
The driving instructor did plan ahead, however he could have anticipated the Mini also would pull out and instead on trying to pass the Mini he could have pulled out to lane two and held back to give space for the Mini to move out. That was my first thought when I watched the video once. I still hold that mind set after watching it again a few times
Absolutely agree - well said.
yep, personally I change lane 1 to lane 2 before merging traffic. but I keep staggered formation in lane 2 with lane 1 traffic. Sadly some tailgaters did not get it why. and I overtake or return to lane 1 after the hazard "merging traffic is behind". In this video the driver in lane 1 can really keep in lane 1 without any problem.
He didn't plan ahead as he took away 1 of the opposition for the mini to move across which they shouldn't without checking
Ok instructor could have done this but why on earth mini is pulling sharply to his lane , no planing no warning . That mini driver clearly has no idea how to drive safely.
Good example of first rule of driving “ think everyone is going to behave like idiot”
Technically, the instructor did nothing wrong, but..... Lack of judgement by pulling out and overtaking just before merging traffic (which might be unseen) unnecessarily increased the level of risk. A momentary lack of anticipation and asking ahead, what could happen here. We've all had drivers pull out into your lane without looking. All you can do is try and preempt what might happen. The mini driver was doing what they thought best (albeit incompetently) by giving room to the car entering, even if it is the car entering who is responsible for doing that safely. It's a balancing act - we all appreciate being given room, but, occasionally, the converse also happens where the odd driver will not, even if they have acres of space to do so. Driving is a cooperative task.
Thank you for highlighting the dangers and misconceptions. There are so many bad habits out there on the road. Particularly motorways. Shame about the accident but good no one was hurt. also thank you for showing the importance of keeping aware and alert.
Nice video, bad luck for your instructor, happy everyone was ok, he indeed handled that collision like a pro. As a HGV driver slip roads that join are one of my main concerns and I tend to be hyper vigilant. Many drivers just pull out right in front of me so I always make a point of being ready when approaching a joining slip road. I occasionally get drivers overtaking me before an exit slip, then dart directly in front of me to exit, those moments always make me hold my breath, some people are so impatient and to risk yours and others lives just for a few seconds is crazy to me.
I'm glad both instructor and passenger are unharmed. Thank you for sharing this video clip and reaffirms the importance that when driving on roads you make real decisions affecting all drivers and users travelling on the road.
Brilliant video, this is exactly the kind of information I want to get out of lessons but is sometimes difficult to get. Best driving instruction channel on CZcams!
I was just viewing your video to show a friend how to merge, well done, I particularly like how you are explaining all the things a responsible driver needs to think about.....
I live in Australia and the standard of driving is just woeful...
Thanks, very interesting, I've subscribed. I'm 80 and don't drive much these days, so I watch dashcams to keep alert to what can happen.
I'm happy you emphasised "anticipation" it's one of the most important skills we have. Anticipation (and stereotyping) would have told me to be aware of the Range Rover entering from the sliproad. Their owners tend to be more important than other people.
And I notice Audi drivers more often have a habit of speeding
I am glad everyone is okay, it must have been very scary.
Thanks for doing this video, it's great reminder of being safe on these roads .
Although not overtaking a car at a slip road is great safe advice, in your instructor's defence, that car was a lot slower than him, so he would have had to slow right down from like 70 mph to 50mph to follow that car for a short distance and then overtake once past the slip road. It doesn't sound like much but in reality its a pain lol
Glad you are fine, your videos and your husband recording from behind you always..helped my wife and I to pass once
Good job by the instructor for keeping the car under control and bringing it to a safe stop. That shows they are well in control of their car. Many accidents are made much worse because people panic and lose control after an impact.
I agree with everything in your analysis. Sometimes I try to think how can i maximise the time i am visible in someone's mirrors and reduce the time i am in their blind spot...
Sorry to hear they had an accident, glad everyone is ok.
I've been driving mostly on highways for the duration of my restricted lisense and I've found that checking mirrors for far vehicles is best, and looking around for anyone close is what has kept me safe.
Everytime I see big trucks I'm always checking around me before making room, sometimes by moving to the merge lane so I don't need to brake to 7-80 kmph.
Some truck drivers do a terrible job at matching the traffic speed
It looked like the Mini first saw the car on the slip road, his attention being on the left side he signaled right, you can briefly see the mini's right indicator turn on just as the instructor's car was on the mini's side (mini's right indicator 1:11 blinked once before the instructor car was about to be side by side by it). But then the mini just changed lane after signaling and probably not doing a mirror check. Had the mini done a mirror check, he wouldn't just change lane all so suddenly.
Hope everyone and everything is okay. Drive safe out there.
😮 happy to hear that everyone is ok.
Clearly the mini didn’t observe well enough to notice the instructors car on the right, but I’m glad everyone’s okay.
Glad the drivers involved were both ok. I recently had my first accident since passing a year ago, thankfully only at 10mph and only cosmetic damage. Other driver pulled out from a side road without looking in my direction.
I’ve learnt from it too, thought I was being observant but am now paying even more attention of other drivers at junctions.
Really really sorry you had an accident! So glad everyone is ok!😮 The driver in a mini is responsible for the accident by simply because he/she did not check their mirrors or blind spot thoroughly and this is why I leave enough gap or move onto the middle lane if it’s absolutely safe to do so to let cars merge onto the carriageway
As an ADI, should have clocked the joining vehicle before coming out from behind that mini, whilst the mini was technically at fault for lack of observations, that instructor could/should have anticipated what was going to happen, I saw it a mile off with no formal advanced driver training or anything
absolutely shocking driving from the instructor. could see that was going to happen and should be anticipating. . always give people room to move out near slip roads
I will start saying massive thanks for your video. Today I passed my driving test wit zero fault . I was watching your video every day, I'm very proud of you God bless you.
Great job! Good luck on the road 🚙👌🏼😀
I’ve missed your videos. Upload more! 😁
I would of planned for the mini changing lanes to allow the car approaching the first lane
The overtake the instructor was completing was done at a high differential speed. The Mini moved out very early but it closed across to the white lines very slowly. At the speed the mini was travelling it was probably slower or around the same speed as the joiners and judging by traffic density would have easily merged with the joiners in lane 1.
Nice to see you again, first video you’ve uploaded in 2 months. 🙃
Thanks! We have been super busy but will try to release more often.
You’re welcome and that would be great, I’m a loyal fan! ☺️
I have heard that half of all collisions occur close to a junction, which is why you should avoid overtaking at a slip road or any other kind of junction. This incident is a good illustration of that.
Either hold back or put your foot down. Drifting passed shows a lack of awareness. Just treat every other driver as stupid, and this is avoided.
As a motorcyclist I knew it was the red mini before it happened, cars arnt as agile as bikes to swerve.
I never assume because I treat everybody like they are drunk.
I do not like to be infront of a lorry so I do my best to get out of that situation as soon as possible.
Obviously mistake is with the mini cooper, but your instructor could've avoided over taking the car exactly at the slip road. Glad that you also mentioned this point in your video. Respect 🙏👍
Apart from theoretical rules, in the real world there are quite a few layouts where the safest place to be is to the right of any slip lane, or merger lane parallel with another slip. There are plenty of short slip lanes after a sharp curve, on which there is always a wide speed difference with most things - although there were not any in this demonstration. Something like the Almondsbury interchange between the M4 & M5 are like this.
A risk that would have occurred in this demo is being in a bind spot caused by a truck on the left while passing near a slip lane; not a good place to change from right to left, unless you are certain that there is nothing there. Indeed, it is possible that the one that was involved in the collision with the red mini was actually in it’s blind spot. A top end advanced way round that might have been to stay back a bit, or a brief warning horn and a rapid acceleration, perhaps, to avoid the risk!
Yeaj would have been avoided if the instructor had left options for the mini until it knew for certain it wasn't going to change lanes when it shouldn't. The theory doesnt cover ever real life scenario
Is this accident result of mini not seeing instructor car as it was in blind spot or mini driver not checked mirror at all?
I really like it the way you explained....keep it up....i need to start my driving lesson again....since covid I stopped my lesson...plzzx advice
Thanks! If you liked your previous instructor then contact them to continue lessons. If you didn’t - have a look for a new driving school. Good luck 🤞🏼
One reason I will avoid passing vehicles close to a slip road unless I am 100% sure there is nobody about to emerge. I will also avoid changing lanes to overtake as close as this so others are fully aware of the changes to traffic around them if they are not checking mirrors regularly.
While it is down to the other driver to check and not just change lanes like they did, it is entirely possible the last check the driver did showed lane 2 to be clear and wrongly assumed it was still clear
Overall there were a few things that could’ve been done by the instructor to avoid this regardless of fault such as being a little slower on the approach to the sliproad especially with changing lanes as close to the Mini and sliproad but ultimately the fact everyone is OK is a good outcome for any collision
05:10 I like to call it the staggered formation, no matter what road you’re on, single carriageway, dual carriageway or motorway, never be next to another vehicle, always be staggered, you can’t really do that say for example at a red traffic light on a single carriageway road with 2 lanes going in the same direction and there are 5 cars in lane 2 and no cars in lane 1, you have to use all of the space in lane 1 and get right up to the traffic light to improve traffic flow but you can wait until the car next to you pulls off first, that way you aren’t undertaking them and also then you’ll be staggered. 🙃
It also applies to roundabouts - countless crash videos show people changing lanes and crashing, when with staggered driving there would be no drama.
Driving side-by-side with other traffic is an unnecessary risk, as they could change lanes without warning. We always recommend 'keeping diagonal' to other vehicles whenever possible!
Yes definitely, I totally agree with you, keeping diagonal, I like to call it being staggered. 🙃
Actually the highway code only states that the joining traffic 'should' give priority to traffic on the main carriageway, BUT at the same time, the traffic on the main carriageway 'should' move over to allow joining traffic if lane 2 is clear.
Yes - but when the overtaking lane isn’t clear we must stay in our lane. Changing lanes suddenly is dangerous as we saw from the dashcam clip.
The mini didn't observe or move well.
I wonder why the instructor didn't move to lane 2 @ about 0:37 rather than 0:42 ?
What was his following distance by 0:41 ?
The dual carriage way closest to me scares me as you have to use the middle lane. The left Lane is for local traffic. I only passed a month ago and have only braved it very recently as I hate being in the middle lol how soon after joining should I get into the middle lane? Soon after joining or would it be best to stay on the left and then move over to the middle lane as I get closer to the exit for local traffic? If the first one should I move straight over (if it’s safe) to the left lane after passing the exit before the one I need? Or stay in the middle until I’m approaching the exit I need? I know when to signal to leave but I’m never sure how soon I should move over. I have to start using it more now to take my daughter to her swimming lesson but it’s something I’m anxious about. I should have learnt to drive years ago, I’m 34!! I wish I hadn’t put it off as now I’m learning (after passing) with two kids in the back seats yelling at me 😅
We would drive on the left lane (unless overtaking of course) and only change lanes once traffic signs indicate you should. Getting into the middle lane too early might frustrate following traffic and cause danger.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool thank you 😊
I was joining a freeway and the car coming up could of changed lanes but didn’t I slowed down, then he slowed down I was close to having to stop on the slip road…the car that wouldn’t let me in was a police car..😮😮😮😮
How the instructor kept his cool? Did he immediately used brakes or only changed gears to calm down? Or what should have been done in case such situation.
Very happy all safe. Best of luck
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I like it ❤and I love ❤️ it
I drive a 56ft long HGV and people think I have to move to let them out
Would sounding the horn have benefitted both drivers - its clear the mini driver is drifting across. the instructor could have slowed down to mitigate the accident.
Yes as soon as the minni was drifting in its lane and are passed it's time to give a warning of your presence . They drift they are not aware . Would you rarther be beeped at hit. We are all human and can miss something
Did you send your video to Ashley Neal? I would love to know what his thoughts were too.
No. We appreciate that our instructor could have handled the situation differently, but we just wanted to show how to avoid that happening again.
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Thanks very much!
Any maneuver requires mirror and blind spot check
If I'm joining from slip road and because slip road are short I'll have to take whatever gap is available. What if nobody adjust their speed to let me in, where I'm supposed to go? Brake hard and stop?
If you can't get in you do have to stop. Happens a lot on a slip road near me where traffic is always busy, but it's also slow so easier to get on from stationary.
@Arcangeline I've never seen anybody stop on slip road and if I'm ment to stop there how likely is it that I'll crash... what is the point of slip road if I have to stop
@@bondasfaqhow can you merge if nobody gives you way? You stop and wait.
@Arcangeline it sint happening if that person slams on the braked they still going over the line if travelling at 70 if atvspeed they can stop they are too slow . Never in 30 years if driving ever had to slam on the brakes to stop . The thing is everyone should work together to make safe to join. The car joining has the biggest responsibility but that doesn't mean if on the motorway do something to prevent the merge
What was the instructor thinking? People do not always observe priorities. He should have seen the two cars on his left approaching the same point and predicted the mini could take avoiding action without using either their mirror or indicator. I would not have overtaken on by the slip road when there was a car on it and another in the inside lane. This “instructor” should not be instructing.
These people have got it all wrong.
You made it clear at the beginning of your clip that those on the carriageway have right of way, people should not have to brake or be forced to move over, they wait until there is a sufficient gap in the traffic to flow into then proceed. Its also surprising how many don't speed up when joining the carriageway and just bimble on, plus lately I've seen a huge gap and the vehicle joining leaves it to the last minute to merge in
Why should you avoid overtaking when there is a slip road joining, it's all about being aware, not enough people on our roads are aware. If I may say your driving instructor was a little late pulling out to overtake, I always pull out sooner then this sort of incident should not happen plus if you do leave it late to overtake and they also move over you could hit them.
If he'd have pulled out sooner, he may have been spotted
At 6.23 why haven't you pulled back to the inside lane
Why overtake when there is a much increased risk that someone will make a mistake (that anyone can make on a bad day - anyone) and pull out without checking their blind spot / seeing you. You don't know the level of experience or even distraction of the driver around you - if you don't know for sure you've been seen you should be anticipating that you haven't been and act carefully to protect yourself and everyone else too. The Mini didn't have to move at all and they could have just adjusted their speed slightly to let the other car in, to take care of everyone on the road. But at a slip road entry would be the number one place I'd expect people to be changing lanes without warning & without looking properly on the motorway, just the same as you can anticipate last-minute lane changes as the entrances to slip roads. You shouldn't proceed as if those don't happen just because the people doing those poor maneuvers are in the wrong, you need to look after yourself and everyone else on the road.
I'm not even sure that the mini needed to change lanes here, looked like there was enough room for the slip lane car to merge before it and maintain a safe gap. Was it an instructor driving or a student?
There was no need for the Mini to do anything - the other car would have merged safely in front of it. It was an instructor driving the car that got hit.
All the mini had to do was stay put and maybe knock 2 mph off if thier . If in lane should assrs who is joining and also asses who is the right lane . Then can decide what options you have. Which are do nothing ease a little to create a bigger space in front or speed up to make a bigger space or change lanes if can do safely
Mini driver used hazard perception too late
Instructor correct
Early vision , early decision guys 🎉
That blue van at 5:40 just joined the highway without even slowing down. The semi truck driver could have easily hit him.
I think your instructor's driving was careless. They got so close to the vehicle in front before overtaking such that they could not have possibly stopped safely if the other driver braked sharply. They also overtook approaching a road junction which The Highway Code tells you to not do.
It was the fault of the Mini, point blank
Why are you driving 60mph on a 70phn road?
Just cruising with the flow of the traffic. Don't think of the limit as some kind of target!
Should of been mindful of the lorry, traveling at 55 didn't really help when they can only do 57 at best I guess he /she was as critical of you as you were of them. 70 isnt a target the outside lane was clear and conditions good you could have gone a little faster as not to come into conflict with the lorry.
I have been driving manual for 6 months now . I had an automatic car before and I used it for 8 years . Even though shifting into manual driving was very challengeable at first after being driven automatic for 8 years finally I got the hang of it ,but very recently when was driving on 3 gear I wanted to shift into 2 gear accidentally I shifted into 4 gear instead of 2 gear car stalled a little bit , then I shifted into neutral and shifted into correct gear, 2 gear. What I want to know is whether that mistake could have damaged the car ? This is the first time I did such a thing.
That won't have caused any damage. The most common way to damage an engine is shifting into a lower gear than you want - for example selecting 2nd instead of 4th, as it could increase the engine speed too far. Avoid that!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Can block changing be done on old cars , manufactured in 1995 ? Once my mechanic said that block changing would ruin the car over time . Is that true ? Just imagine I drive on 4 gear and I want to shift into 2 , then is it ok to shift into neutral and move to 2 gear ? Will it cause any damage ?
Block gear changing is fine in any car, as long as you change the cars speed before you change gear. Here’s a video to explain:
Block Gear Changing: czcams.com/video/oI2kN1IvNnc/video.html
I won't slow down to let them on, because there's a danger that they'll just carry on at that speed and I'll be stuck behind them. Of course it's an entirely different matter when they just barge out! I have seen some appalling stunts pulled on the Motorway we've been probably moments from disaster.
You wont be struck behind them . Lets say they are in front and can go in front and no 1 is behind and by lifting off the gas for 2 seconds to make a safer gap fo you do nothing especially whem they are in front travelling at the same speed. If you cant change lanes in the motorway you shouldn't use
Not a good idea to approach a junction with 2 lanes of traffic with poor speed differential. I suggest one of you shoul decide whi goes where.
That fact you say: i don't know what he is doing " shows that you have poor concept of HGv movements. You are supposed to be more flexible with small car and smaller waistlines .that truck weighs empty 17 tonnes, 17 of your not so sporty car. You need to be well ahead or behind to reduce a hazardous situation which can decompensate in 5 seconds.
Talking to camera while driving is not best wither. I see that every day. Concentrate on traffic.
highly edited there are cars and lorries disappearing and then reappearing all over ! but the accident was not helped by the advanced driver but not caused by him
There is footage from her car and from her husband's car behind, I think, to give different angles.
One million percent it was a female in the mini
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