Spike60's Jonsered "Top Five" Picks....A Bit Of Jonsered History
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- čas přidán 3. 11. 2017
- Need to be an enthusiast to appreciate this video. Bob is an oracle of Jonsered/Husqvarna History. These video's are as much about capturing that history as anything. The new dealers with first the Husqvarna derived Jonsereds and now with Red/max really don't have a reason to support these older saws at all. So trying to capture as much history as possible and getting it online for those who are interested.....The genisis of the "Spike60 Saw Colleges" is that concept. Hope you enjoy....:)
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Proud to be Swede when I see this - the homeland of Jonsered - I live close to the old production plant - epic saws. 👍
Always a pleasure when you guys get together and share your knowledge of Jonsered and Husqvarna saws. Thanks to both of you
I was given a 2055 for 2 days while my 2063 was in the shop and it was the nicest softwood saw that I have ever cut with. At that time I was production cutting 10-20 inch white spruce. Outstanding saw for limbing.
Great video I could listen to you two talk saws for hours. Thanks for all the good information and opinions.
I knew a guy that worked for Weyerhaeuser as a solo hired contractor in the late 70's and 80's. He would go into the woods and fell trees for logging crews, that's all he did find the marked trees fall it move onto the next one never de limb or bucked just fell. He would use Jonsreds, that is were I learned about them. He called them Johnny Reds. Husky's are Chevys and Reds are Cadilacs, that what he said.
Great video! When I was a kid, I watched my neighbor cut firewood everyday with his 49sp. 25 years later, I still use my 49sp, love it! Great saw!
I saved a 49sp from being scrapped. Got it for free. And put an Archer 16" bar and chain. Use it almost all the time. And it is my old mule. Works but can be a pain to run in cold and hot weather.
Good lineup...I cut timber for several years with a Jonsered 90...In fact I still have it and it still runs
Nice bunch of saws here. Thanks for the fun I had watching
Great info. I own a few of those. Several have full wrap handles. 830, 920, 930S, couple of 670's and a 630. my other 670's, 630's and of course 49SP have half wraps.
#1 920 super heated handle, #2 70e, #3 630 heated handle, #4 49sp , #5 535! Johnny all the way! Always a great chat! Thank you
Great vid , thanks for sharing your invaluable knowledge and opinions on the Jonsereds 👍💨💨
Jonsered 630 was a powerful saw we had one cut a lot wood with bought new in 1987 lasted about 7 years.
Ambrose Mackinnon have one too, I can put a bigger bar on it then the oiler can keep up!, have not managed to bog the saw down yet!
The first really good saw I ever ran was a 49SP in 1977. I had never heard of Jonsered but it quickly became apparent that it was an excellent saw. Now I have too many big Homelites, Poulans, Jonsered, Husqvarna, and a couple of Stihl and Dolmer. Chainsaw collecting and running can become addictive.
I never knew about Jonsered until I moved to northern Wisconsin and heard all the stories of these saws and them being used for production logging up until as recent as 10 years ago and I just don't see much love for them online outside of niche areas and it's a shame because the people that love them seem to really love them
bcperry15 I loved stihl, once someone gave me a jonsy, I only wanted Jonsy's now, so much power!
@bcperry:
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I too have heard the testimonials of enamored customers from the past. As a kid, my first saw that I used was a Homelite. There was a time in the past when Homelite was a great saw. Those days are gone. The tide and trends of the big box stores and the economy have taken its toll. I never used a Jonsered, but to this day those dedicated customers with strong memories of a product they respected are the same ones that have impressed the history upon me. Obviously there was a time when Jonsered was a great saw beloved by its users. I never got a chance to experience it. Times have changed.
Nowadays it’s a two horse race. Stihl & Husky are the market, with Echo following behind in certain products
Thanks for the interesting video guys. I am kinda new to chainsaws. I now own a Jonsered CS2255, a Husqvarna 350 and a Craftsman 358.350810 (Looks like a Poulan Wild Thing). So far the Jonsered seems to have the most power. The Husky cuts nice too.
Thanks for the great video. You guys are the best. Pete Vojta Long Island
Always liked my 670 good saw for logging but switched to husky later on and still use them today
I got a 2035 Turbo recently, I really like it, amazing how different it is from that later 2055.
Thanks for all the great information, I have a 2054 Jonsered turbo that I am having a problem removing the muffler.
I see the 2 obvious bolts one on the lower left inside the case relief, and the other on the lower right on the red case.
Is there a third bolt that I am not seeing? Still on tight.
Thanks, Mere Woman
In 1979 I purchased my first Jonsered. I traded in a Homelite, The dealer went through the line up of saws that he had available. He wanted to sell me a Rancher, and I told him I was going to cut 8 to 10 cords of firewood, and I didn't want to do any work, I wanted the saw to do all the work and quickly. I walked out with a 70E and I had that saw for 30 years, then it was getting hard to get parts for. That was a strong running saw, and it made short work of any thing it came up against. Vic New Hampshire.
Been hording parts for those and the 920's..:) Now 2094's...
I have had one Jonsered, the 2139T. An arborist saw. I love it. But it's the only J'red I have ever had. I guess it's not a common model, since I can hardly find any footage on it.
Hey you said it! 49 SP. I saved one from being scrapped! Put a Archer .325 16" bar and chain on it. And use it almost all the time! Currently trying to fix up a beaten up but piston and rings and compression is good 70e.
The swedes are great at building chain saws !
My Dad has Raket 60, it's so Kool awesome design, jonsered forever
Are you mixing in the Husqvarna-Electrolux Pioneer Partner era saws? Should they count? Very interesting video.
That 930 looks a lot like my 590. Great little saw. Been thinking about replacing it and stunned to find its lighter than its equivalent cc contemporaries Stihl MS 261 CM and Husqvarna 550 XP MK II (Jonsered no longer available down here in NZ). I expect they'll have way more power but assumed things to have have got lighter over the years. Kudos to Jonsered for building such a light and durable little saw way back then. Would have liked to be able to factor them into the comparison of what to get next.
The Jonsered 930 looks like what 590? It’s certainly not a little saw. And it’s certainly not lighter than a Stihl 261 or Husqvarna 550. Strange comparison but ok..🤷♂️🤔
What size fuel line does the 70E use? I replaced an old line with tygon that's apparently the wrong size
i have an old jonsered that was my dads i think its a 70e it doesnt say though and he took it to a guy for him to clean the dust and sharpen it cuz it wasnt running the best air filter was clogged i think at a chainsaw shop and when my dad came back acouple days later he gave it back to my dad in a box with the pullstart tookin apart and he said it was broken. i think he did it trying to sell my dad a new saw but my dad just left. i would like to get it running again cuz ive never had a saw that ran as good as this one even are 440 rancher was not comparison. can you get new pullstarts for it? ive tried to put it together but its not gonna happen lol the spring was rusted alittle and broke a bit off
Looking at your 70e, looks like it may be a 66e. It has a 66e recoil, and top cover. The 2 saws were almost the same, with a couple of suttle differences. The largest difference being the 66e ran a smaller piston, and cylinder, along with the small throat carb. The best way for you to tell is pull the muffler. At a quick glance the 66E will have double piston rings, where the 70e is a single ring. Bore measurement is 50mm for the 70e, and 47mm for the 66e.
I also have the 70 e just gave it a little tune up yesterday and she runs mint
Got a 670 Champ I bought for cutting timber in the mid 90’s. Cut around 1500 feet with it yesterday. Can’t beat’em! Why have they quit making them? Great saws!
Agreed!...I have one and it is a very well built saw.
After growing up around my dad's 2152, and 2095 that we used for milling, I got a 242XPG from our neighbour. And now just the other day finally got my own Jonsered 😅 A 670 Champ in almost mint condition, not cheap but still like 30% the price of a comparable new saw 😀
I just got a 1998 2041. Goes pretty good
THANK YOU ! ! ! For the video . I bought my first saw ( New ) 49sp great little saw 2yrs later i bought a (New ) 70E 1982 or 83 ? . the 49sp was two small for the size of fire wood i was cutting . I kept the 49sp for limming and cutting small stuff . The 70E IS AND HAS BEEN THE BEST (GREAT ) saw . I LOVE that saw its cut count lis cords of fire wood ! ! ! well its older now and so am i . and i figure maybe its time to update to anew and light saw . So i just bought a new cs 2245 , 20 in bar . GREAT PRICE .Going to put it to work this afternoon , HOPEFULLY ITS AS GOOD OF A SAW AS MY OTHERS ARE ? ? ? ME AND THE ONLY REAL RED POWER CHAIN SAW > JONSERED < TILL THE END OF MY HERE
Hey ! I have a Jonsereds 521 E and I think the timing is of track. Cannot see any wrong about the flywheel and the coil is correct adjusted ...i mean the distance between coil and flywheel is now a buisnesscard distance...aka correct. Could the coil itself deliver wrong timing because it is faulthy or caput...gone..? I think it is a rear saw...and would like to get it running...like the other 410 or what it is...i also just got... Somebody that can help ? I admire you knbowledge. Thx for sharing to us enthusiasts ! :-)
Still running my 49sp 👍🏻
I have an old Jonsered (circa, 1970's) but not sure the model number. Does K70 sound possible?
Robin would probably be the most 'numerous' 49sp collector...lol!
What do you think about the 535 or the 370?
I own a 535, hands down my FAVE saw, and thinking about pulling the trigger on a local 370.
I have 3 - 80 1-49sp 1-1020 2-670champ 1-630 1-630super end incomplete 621 end 625 II . top quality jonsereds saw . good vidio . post more videos
I have a sleeper 2165 with a Husqvarna 372xpu top end (ported) & she's one angry beast..
What about the 530SP ? I have 1 that is running great still.
Anybody know much about the 660e if it's worth refurbishing or if they hold any value ?
I also run a 288 that I absolutely love
Hey ! I just now got a Jonsered 521E and a 451 EV. Anyone have an opinion on those saws ? Tested it two hours ago...both started...but now 451 EV is drying up...seems like it got flooded.. But the 521 seems to run well ! Someone love them ? 521 has 3,1 HP and could run 20" i read !
What are your thoughts on the 451 EV? I have an opportunity to buy one
Question : can you get still jonsered in the US, or is it redmax now?
I did buy a view weeks ago, a new jonsered cs 2240 ll, in Germany.
No idea what they do now, I completely detached when they went to Redmax's distributor.
I have a 2077 and a2159. Both nice but that 2159 is a very nice saw in my opinion
Any ideas where I can get a 28in and up bar for my Jonsered 920? Ive even called Oregon and they dont make anything bigger than 20in.
Die grinders work wonders OR adapt Stihl bars, then no longer dependent on some odd pattern.
Is 51 is also good ?
I got a used 2054 about 20 years ago and its been great
I got a 2054 as well it's a tough saw
I have my fathers old 630 Super. That thing still runs insanely well. Not certain what year it was manufactured but it’s amazing to me just how well it’s made & runs. But I do have a question! Why do the older models say “Jonsereds” and the later models say “Jonsered”?
They were Jonsereds until Elektrolux bought them in the early 80s... for some reason the "s" got lost in that process. Maybe some "Special-Marketing-Operator" suggested that idea for some reason...
The round flocked AF's for the 621/80 were great...a little funky, sure. They filtered fine and I used an 80 as a backup loggin' saw for yrs that way. I used a 90 professionally too and the AF for that and the 801/81 were much more modern, but 'better' than the round flocked round J'reds filter....not really. Now that copper screen filter IS crap....you need to pitch that and buy the round flocked filter with its own special cap. Agree on the 70E...the only downfall to that saw was that high failure SEM'S modules. Husky and Stihl each had their demons as well with those early SEM's that went around the crankshaft and bolted to the case. Ironic that Husky is now selling NEW SEM's modules for the 2100/2101. Too bad they don't make new SEM's modules for the early 70E's.
My vote is the SP49.I cut a lot of firewood with one of those.
I also own a 49 SP -awesome saw!! Bought it in 81--- Only thing I hated about it was points ignition!!- Still have the saw!
My 49 SP is my work horse.
I GOT A 52 AND THE TANK PAINT IS GONE THINKING OF EITHER SAND BLASTING CLEAN OR WIRE BRUCHING IT CLEAN AND JUST RUNNING IT AND IDEA`S AND CHAINGING FILTERS OFTEN THE SAW RUNS AWESOME AND CUT AMAZING LOVE IT BEEN CUTTING ASH ALL WINTER AND HAS BEEN A LITTLE ANIMAL
I’m looking for some parts for what I believe to be an 820 Jonsered any where to look
As most who collect those do
😲👏👏👍👍
Very interesting - I could listen to you guys all day long! Is the 2171 more bomb proof saw than 2172?
Yes in my humble opinion, I would choose the 2171 all day long over any version of an x-torque
I’d say for me it’d go #1 621 #2 451e #3 49sp and #4 2051
I like the 52e myself
what was the husqvarna 55 version of jonny red
There was none.
what do you think of the 630 then?
Great little saw, a little hot rod
What's your opinion of the 621?
I think they were ahead of their time. Hard to get parts for. I have one and want to restore it to running condition but having a tough time finding what I need.
Yeah the parts are pretty much unobtainium, filters are non existent (I have a spare for mine thankfully, mines in mint condition and I bought it from a garage sale for $25! goes great and cuts really well, only downside to it is it's weight, she's a heavy bugger but is quite smooth to run (compared to my 029 super which is also a great saw to use for firewood cutting duties. The 621 seems to be a quite a torquey type saw with good power in the cut.
I'm from Maine, just bought a 66E for 100$. For an old saw she screams.
So 625, 630,670 &2051,2054,2055 did they all had domed pistons?
no some are flat
It’s sad that jonsered was the innovated lead in saws. But ended up being copied by competition and out marketed..
I have a jonsered and love it. Rather buy a used jonsered.
This gives me some inspiration to refurbish my dad's old late 70s 66e. We cut about a million cord of wood with that ole girl!
Not far from going over my 670 that was my grandpas. Love that saw. Goodluck! Not many into this kinda stuff anymore👍
Vidio de Motosierras y Jonsered,,, Muy buenonooooooo
Tengo varias Jonsered,,, la mejor y única para mi es la 621,,, creo ke es la ke más le gusta al dueño,,,
Saludos del norte de España
Gracias por ver. El 621 es un modelo que he estado TRATANDO de adquirir. Tengo uno pero no funciona. Todavía.
@@afleetcommand Gracias por tu atencion
En España, también es complicado, repuestos o. máquinas,,, 621,,,, yo tengo 3,, dos funcionan y la tercera esta en enfermería por falta de piezas,,, tambien tengo una XF, con aproximadamente 57 años,, funciona, pero también con problemas de repuestos
De dónde Óperas????
Saludos
I have a 625ii.. worked great until my gas tank, handle broke.. now it sits in my shed waiting till I find another 1
ok, Ive been given a C70 Jonsered!! 1985 ish,,, Starting is a bitch! Tick over is a bitch! Inlet manifold had a hole in it, can't get one so repaired it, exhaust gasket!! I need one! any advice, spark is ok, when it go's it has a lot of POWER where do I get parts Im in the UK.
It's pronounced: ”e-un-sidea” in Sweden.
Have either of you ever seen or had a 1020?
I have a Homelite xp1020a! Not a Jonsered.
hi jonsered 1020 was a partner p100 in a red dress
You didn't include the mother of all Jonsereds the 111s
Those are sweet ass saws. See them in my vintage chainsaw group on Facebook. Big bad asses.
I just bought a new Redmax. I can't think of the model now its the same as the Husqvarna 439 or the rear handle version of the 435T top handle saw. I bought it new from a dealer on Ebay. It came with the oil adjustment screw busted off in the box. The local Husqvarna dealer gave me a hard time about the warranty to the point I just ordered a new oiler for $23 what it would have cost for me to send the saw back to where I got it. Pissed me off the guy was a real asshole. Made all kinds of smartass remarks about that is what you get buying on Ebay and told me all kinds of stuff is going to be wrong with the saw. He just was pissed I didn't pay $400 and buy the saw there I am sure. The closest Redmax dealer I was going to go to that showed on Redmax site when I looked the shop up he closed in March last year. He was a Jonsered dealer and said since they were merging with Redmax he was closing. He is a logger and was open from 4 till 8pm after he got done with his other work. Found a couple other Redmax dealers around should have probably just checked one of them out but they are all a ways away. Not many Husqvarna dealers either with Stihl dealers everywhere. One of the Stihl shops used to also carry Husqvarna but not anymore.
My 910e is the best saw in the universe! Well 2 me anyway! I need a coil worse than i need air to breath can anybody help me find one?
I am in Maine and I have a 49sp that I am going to be buried with wen my time is up!!!
Hi I bought a cutters edge CE-670-FDV ser number 9370083 at a fire station auction for $100. What year was it made? One parts supplier said 1993-2008. other forums say they started in the mid 80's. They said 1999 was when mine was made one said 1989. can you help me
Don't have the serial number to years chart handy but I will ask. Prolly wouldn't help you anyway. Use partstree.com for saw diagrams and parts break down. SOME dealers will work with you is u have a part number.. Problem is that ear Jonsereds have been out of production for decades and a VERY few dealers still have parts. SO go back into my video archive and see what we did blending Husqvarna 268/272 parts to those saws. Things like bottom end parts are a direct match, same with ignition parts. Even pistons. BUT the cylinder and carb arrangement is unique to 670's same as the throttle / choke/ pulse setup. And all the plastic is unique as is the handle..
Just inherited a 535 from my brother I believe it is a 49cc, is this a good little chainsaw?