Heating With Wood - How well does it work? | Vermont Bun Baker XL
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- Now that I have had a chance to heat the house through some cold weather, how well has it been working?
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The thing I REALLY like about out indoor wood stove is that you can still stay warm even if there is a power outage!
I wish everybody pieced together a solid, straightforward explanation. It was personal without the unnecessary fluff or bravado. Thank you very much.
Grew up with wood heat. Teenage years spent in a house heated solely by wood. it was a two level home with a wood stove downstairs & fireplace upstairs. We primarily only used the stove. Out water was preheated by the stove in winter. As the oldest child it was my job to make sure the fire didn't go out @ night. Packing the stove tighter & reducing air flow to the firebox works great, but pay attention to the advice on leaving a good layer of ash in the stove. It helps the stove hold heat better, as opposed to sending the heat up the chimney, but it also enables you to bank the fire. A banked fire gets less oxygen & burns slower, making the fuel last longer. Any means to circulate the air (furnace fan, ceiling fans, or even a box fan) will help prevent cold spots. Now I'm 53, & I've also used propane, natural gas and electric, whole house furnace systems & space heaters. A wood stove is still my favorite preferred method!
The stones actually look good under your wood stove. dont worry about the negative comments if you and the family like it that is all that matters
Darrin Bree, I agree with you and support your comment 100% .
The stones around the stove are a nice touch.
I like the stones too! I moving soon and plan on doing the stones thing at the new place. Looks great and functions as a mass heater. I can't think of a better definition of WIN, WIN!
Guess you haven't caught your vacuum on fire yet.
@Mark OnTheBlueRidge It's on basement floor......meaning cement!!!! Listen. Perhaps cleaning the stones is not a big issue for this gentleman. The remaining floor maybe tile. I know of people who supplement their heating with wood for years and love it.
I love the feeling of wood heat, it just feels better than gas heat. I am glad your new heating system is working well and making the task of heating your home much less difficult.
Ashes from wood are really good for your garden!
Thank you for the update! We live near Ann Arbor and it has been COLD COLD COLD! Our Bun Baker XL has been cranking out the heat with our furnace kicking in to keep us at 62 degrees (usually fires only once over night). Like some of the other comments I get up to pee at 4am every night and toss a few extra logs on the red-hot coals.
The instructions from Nectre indicate a log size of about 10" so I've been cutting mixed stock - about 30% 10" logs and 70% at 16". This allows us to place three small pieces perpendicular to the door and then a few longer pieces across the top of those. This helps to get the thing going just for the first fire of the day. From then on this thing is burning HOT!
I built a wood rack just to the side and rear of the unit and got one of those heat-powered fans from Amazon aimed right at the stack of wood. I have two shelves which each hold about a day of wood. That little fan easily finishes drying out my cordwood in about 8 hours! This technique has helped our wood last a little longer, burn a little hotter, and keep the glass fire door nice and clean.
I'd love to send you a pic of the wood shelf if you are interested.
The fan I got is this one which turns on at 50 degrees C and enables it to spin at really low temps: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07438S8TY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I actually bought two of them so that one can move some heat to our back bedrooms while the other dries out my firewood.
Anyway, thanks as always for sharing your journey! Keep these things coming!
I absolutely LOVE the river rock!
I'm in the middle of installing a similar sized stove to supplement our electric heat (to save on power consumption/$$$). I'm planning on running the HVAC blower to distribute the heat throughout the house. Your results are encouraging! Thanks for posting.
We had a Defiant Encore wood stove, much like yours, it heated our 2 story home in New York state perfectly. We averaged 6-7 cords of wood a year, it was alot of work cutting, splitting, moving and managing that much wood. One tip for getting a good night of burning is pay attention to the wood your handling during the day and put aside the really dense logs and the longest ones as well, those you save for the night burn.
Ron W.
Happy your stove is efficient, looking forward to those projects.
Awesome news and savings for you all!
Just going to get my new bun Baker XL in 2 weeks can't wait to get it so excited
Mighty fine set-up. Wood stoves have so much heat that really gets to the bone.
Nice video, I had a smaller one for a 700 sqf cabin and it was awesome, I could pack with wood aim a fan at it and it would blast me out of the house 85+degrees, at night I put oak in and turned it to low. Waking up in the morning to about 60ish degrees. I would rather watch the fire then the tv.
Well said!!
very very nice! hats off to you for being you and your passion for this interior wood burning fireplace.
So glad its working for you!
Wood is the best heat source it heats you 3 times when you gather it when you split it and when you burn it!!
I heated my house for 5 years with wood. My neighbor would say that to me once every year, he was right. With all the work, I felt like I was getting paid $3 an hour for hard labor.
@@tinybubbles3724 my best friend Hank sells propane and propane accessories and he would disagree with me he thinks propane is far more superior of a heat source..
Love wood fires. Maybe one day we can get one for our house. Your setup looks great.
Thank you. I can't wait to get mine. I'm thinking it might be too much heat after watching this. I still want one.
I love that rock base. Very unique and kool. Well done!!!
A major problem with installing a wood stove in an existing house - such as a tri-level, is heat distribution. An ideal situation is to design your house for using a stove. Good news/bad news - when you get older you'll be getting up during the night to use the bathroom and you can feed the stove then.
Mr. Brunton! LOL! You're right! I'm 60 and in the wee hours as I head back to bed after a whizz I throw a extra couple of logs on the old Jotul!
Pfft. Just get a stash of oak logs 😉
True that! We always had a designated “nightstick”. It was a larger stick and slow burned all night. In our case, normally red oak. White oak doesn’t give as much heat, but lasted longer.
Hai proprio ragione, dove è installata la stufa di muore di caldo e nelle stanze adiacenti fa freddo...
I placed my stove in a basement and cut holes to the first floor in which I placed louvered vents. Works well!
love your wood stove. I will definitely be looking into that model when I build my home.
I'm picking up an older shenedoah R-65C wood/coal stove tonight! It's in great condition and I'm hoping it works out well for my house! Thanks for the tips!
Heating with wood is the best! Nothing can compare to the warmth it produces.
You're Right. I hope to never go back to Not Heating with wood.
Except coal.
Glad its treating you well
I like the river rock surrounding the stove there. Looks nice.
When I first got my nectre xl I was worried about the firebox size being smaller than the wood stove it replaced. It doesn't hold as much wood but is far more efficient than I had expected. A pretty good trade off. Now I have a custom soap stone surround and an oven to bake in along with friends that come to sit by the fire I'm pretty cozy in SE Minnesota.
Indeed we could live so simply. Back to basics
Nice job and love the wood stove. I have had an outdoor furnace for 14 years now. I burn 10-13 cords of wood a year (north eastern VA). I would not trade it for anything. It was installed properly and also heats my water. I have a heat pump and propane as back up or alternatives. I start the furnace mid to late November and shut it down end of March. It takes a lot of work - no doubt about that! Overall, it has saved my around $2000 to $3000 a year in propane costs. I am glad you found a good solution for your home! Love your channel!
Good Lord !!!! 10 - 13 cords of wood per year??? That's a lot of wood. I burn around 5 to 6 cords from November thru April.
Now that I call a great success! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Antique Sun stove in my unheated home office keeps it pretty cozy during the day, but I have to cut the wood to 8" lengths to fit. I've figured out I can chainsaw the logs right in the rack, insert saw through metal hoop so it can't bounce back in my face, can get many days worth of logs cut down to size very quickly. Would love to some day have a full size stove like yours, that can burn full size quarters but stove came with the house so I'm not complaining. It's great not just for heat but also it's a sort of ritual in the morning, go out and chop a little wood, stick in a couple of pieces of fatwood and a few credit card junk mails and the like, and fire is quickly roaring. So comforting and pleasant. And it has a cooking top like yours, can boil water actually.
Nice stove with the ability to bake and cook. You have access to great hardwoods.
I have the same stove, The Nectre Big Baker's Oven, also in a three-level split. Also installed at one end of the house. Does a great job. Never have issues with heat distribution. Not a cast iron stove, though. Only the doors are cast. Love the river rock!
Good job, from a 40 plus year wood stove user
Have steel wood stove in my house ( a Cape) it's from the late 70s and it heats my whole house, run it at 750 or so . Love it , clean it , enjoy it
yeah nothing like the warmth of wood heat. Paul Gautschi says trees store the energy of the sun in its wood. Must be true because it is so soothing and deeply warming.
@Mark OnTheBlueRidge photosynthesis may be the term he uses. The word "energy" I used was off the top of my head. There are many youtube video's on Paul. Maybe get started here....... www.backtoedenfilm.com/. People seek out his knowledge of gardening with the use of wood chips. He calls it " Back to Eden Gardening Method"
My nephew had a ranch that he heated with a wood stove as his main heat source. Stove was on the one end of the house in the living room/dining/kitchen area. He had cathedral ceilings on that end, so the heat was always going up to the top. He installed a couple of bathroom exhaust fans up near the peak, on the wall between living area and the sleeping areas, and ran some insulated flexible ducting into the bedrooms and bathrooms to move that heat to the rest of the house. Ran the fans on a timer, so not to be running all the time, worked perfectly!
I love your corner with that stone and pavers...Beautiful...I would do that exactly the same way...
I love you fireplace, awesome job.
Home school that's great good job Mom and Dad !!!
great video ...and your right...nothing like sitting in front of a cozy fire....
You have a very nice home. Great job 😀.
You have a great set up. I had never really thought about setting it on rocks. That should help the heat because the rock will store heat and give it off during the night. I don't know what the backing is on the wall but if you have concrete, I'm sure that would store heat too. I wouldn't burn pine except as kindling to get the fire started. The reason is that it gives off a lot of residue that will cling to the walls of the stove as well as the stove-pipe. We. used to be very careful about chimney fires when we burned wood in a fireplace. A chimney fire is pretty astounding in addition to being dangerous. For that reason most people who use a fireplace or woodstove try to burn only hardwood. Also, hardwoods burn slower and make much better coals to give off more heat. Wish I had a set-up as good as yours.
We have a large Buck stove in our fire place and keep it fed as much as possible. We also have central heat and air, but keep it set low this time of year since we prefer wood heat.
I loved when I heated with wood the greatest heat ever
Hey Todd, just a little tip for you. Keep about 1 to 2 inches of ash in the bottom of your stove. It keeps heat in longer and cuts down on wood consumption,
Dan: Question for you. If you have an ash box under the wood stove and that is full would that count as the 1-2 inches or do you have to have the ash box full AND 1-2 inches in the bottom of the stove?
I don't have the same style wood burner as you do so I'm not sure. I don't have an ash box underneath. I have a double door that I feed the wood into and it's just basically a box. I realized that the ash would hold the heat a lot longer than if I kept it cleaned out. My stove is also air tight and I keep it choked down. Rarely do I have flame in there. Good luck with your stove, I wouldn't want to heat any other way! @@mms8393
Thanks Dan. @@danchauvin9896
@@mms8393 in stove ware it counts nit trash bin
@@mms8393 Ash down in the ash box underneath doesnt work. They need to be on the base.
Nothing like a wood burning stove to warm the bones. A must in new England.
I agree and it's 3 degrees outside here in Maine and the old Jotul is cooking away. Finest kind!
They no longer give you a wood stove permits in my Massachusetts town. I'm grandfathered in . And many times the fire department came by becouse someone called reporting a house fire . People with out wood stoves hate people with then .
TO BAD FOR THEM.
@@crispychicken2743 so youre saying some parts of mass you cant have Wood burning applications in your own home??
@@Glockdad Yeah something to do with EPA and particulate pollution. There's a couple of stoves that have been taken off the market because of the EPA. I can't imagine wood stoves remotely affect the atmosphere compared to cars & trucks, but anyway you have to look for them on the used market.
@@ChickensAndGardening they dont want the citizens in america to be self sufficient. They want everyone living in the citys being dependent on big govt. They make stoves now that burn any extra creosote so it shouldnt even be a problem.
Those wood stoves like that are very efficient for heating your house. Used one when I was a kid
Totally agree.. We have 2 stoves and we sit close to it alot lol.. But the house it comfortable we just like the fire :)
Love that stove!
Fire (controlled) is awesome. I've often wondered how a whole house could be warmed from one or two stoves. Now I know!
Love that stove!! Great review!
That "smoldering" fire you refer to when you turn the intake air way down is just coating the chimney with creosote during the night. Then adding carboard in the morning to get the stove going again, is going to ignite that creosote and you'll have a chimney fire before you know it. Never run a low smoldering fire in any wood stove unless you have secondary air tubes that burn up the smoke and creosote.
Is it the same for coal?
@@shadwell749 No, coal does not produce creosote, you can slow a coal burn by reducing the air intake, but I would not have a flue in a coal stove! The exhaust gases are toxic, so I would not impede their flowing out the chimney in any way.
@@shadwell749 no coal burns better
Beautiful stove
Schoolhouse is the best part. Wish ya well brother
Nice stove! For more even heat try turning the ceiling fans off and install a box fan in your coolest area on the floor blowing the cool air down towards the stove room. Cold air is denser and easier to move, the warm air will flow in over the top to replace the cool air.
I'm totally going to do the river rock thing but over bricks I love it
Great video! It was very informative as well. My wife and I are on a journey to try to be more self-sufficient. Thank you for your video. Looks like a great looking stove. Just a couple suggestions. Turn on your furnace blower to help circulate the heat from the stove even better. Also if you have poplar wood around your area it can help clean out the stove and pipe by burning it.
Steven Rushton you can buy an Eco Fan which sits on top of the stove. No electric required. It automatically starts up when the air rising from the heater reaches 50 degrees.
you can install a floor damper like the ones from your heating /ac unit at the far end of the house. the larger the better. this will help bring more heat to that area.
your setup sounds exactly like mine. same style house same size stove. we put a cast iron kettle on ours to add humidity to the house. wood heat is very dry. I keep 5-7 cords on hand for a possible power outage. use forced air mostly as a convenience . not real handy if you're gone for several hours out of the day. love the ability to back up to the wood stove after shoveling snow off the driveway.
Hi Bro the best work I have done in my home to date was installing a multi fuel stove👍 it is about half the size of yours but it is a great addition to my living space for both heating and aesthetic reasons.
I keep it burning for around 3 months at a time using a little smokeless fuel for slow burn and wood to get a blast of heat when really cold
The only disadvantage I have is ash removal 🙁 it is a bit scary carrying a small low sided tray through the home full of hot ash every 2 days but it's become my morning ritual 😂 I would love to design my own stove and would have a few mods to make it more practical for cleaning etc but that is for another life !
I have recently built a small cabin for my wife (available on my channel) from pallet wood and free timber and would love to build something bigger but I already have a large log cabin as a workshop, I have a constant source of tall pallets (6 feet) which I hope to use for fence around my home
Can't wait to see your build 😬 God bless 😇 Steve
We've been heating with a wood stove for 4 years now in Wasilla Alaska and it works great. Our heating bill is a 10th what it was before we switched
Great looking stove and hearth corner dude !! Best I've ever seen. Jealous. : )
Back home in Michigan in my old place I put floor grates in each room that had access to the ceiling above the woodstove level...
I have the smaller version. I have cooked in the oven. It works good for me I really like the stove.
Our 1930 Home Comfort kitchen wood stove weighs about 400 lbs. So your stove has good heat mass. We are only heating the main floor with this stove. A large Eco Fan distributes heat into our back bedrooms, but we like those rooms to be cooler. I would not recommend burning pine, except to start your fire. We burn seasoned maple and oak and occasionally apple wood. We are in New Hampshire. Good to see a Vermont wood stove manufacturer. I would like to see them design an airtight kitchen wood stove. So far, I like the Kitchen Queen for a newer version of a kitchen wood stove. Hopefully more folks will discover how wonderful these stove are! Enjoy your stove !
Our propane supplier in western Nebraska *hated* our woodstove... He didn't even bother to check our tank until spring and even then he just topped us off. 😁
Excellent info.
A trick is to have really dense wood like oak or cherry to put on the fire before you go to bed. It burns longer. We have floor registers in the back of our home that allow heat to travel between floors via convection. You can look straight down at someone on the first floor. Regio registers has a good selection and they are easy to install. You just cut a box pass through between floors and dampen them accordingly.
Great video!
Thanks
Good advise on heating with wood plus types of backup heating thanks!
Love the fire and your home its lovely i wish i could get one that big in my fire place x x
Cool stove. I love my Woodstock soapstone stove from NH
THE FIRE WAS SO RELAXING just from watching the video! I love it! And especially that you can cook on it also! Looks like a great one!
You are a lot like me but a bit more energetic! I appreciate your channel and sharing of knowledge!
Having heated with wood most of my life you really want a house planned for its use with the stove centrally located. Some form of air distribution is recommended like the ceiling fan to distribute the heat that collects at the top of the room. I have an air intake duct over mine that pumps warm air to the other end of the house to help with circulation. How this one is done under the sleeping areas of a split level as seen will work well. Because wood is slow steady heat, you really need something for rapid heat, be it a conventional or wood fired furnace connected to central distribution. With a wood stove, mass is your friend. The Scandinavians build a wood stove into a brick mass that has the flue passing thru it. You load and burn one full load at full throttle(batch burn) and the stove radiates gentle heat for many hours.
Minor aches and pains go away beside the wood stove!
Your stove looks great & what I love about A WOOD STOVE is how quiet it is. I have a pellet stove with a 120 LB hopper which allows it to run about 2 days without refilling or cleaning but I'll admit I do not like the noise pellet stoves make.
My wife & I second that comment, I got it so I don't have to cut so much wood. Plus no heat if power goes out, so wood stove in basement is my main heat source . But we went away for a visit & the house was warm when we got back the pellets had burned 33 hrs so at times there is an advantage, now if I can just get a few pellet trees.
Your stove sounds really good. I like stove that both heats and cooks. One note of caution: You should stay away from pine if at all possible because of creosote buildup in the chimney. It's a fire hazard. It may be less of a problem, however, if the pine is well seasoned.
I burn nothing but pine, where I live nine out of every ten trees is pine.
I clean my chimney twice a year. But the wood should have a moisture content of less than 15%.
U might try leaving the fan on your propane furnace in the on position it will move all the air throughout your house and still allows the furnace to kick on if needed Heated with wood for many years and it worked well for about the same size of house in Ontario Canada All the best
Here are some ideas for you, try bricking the wall behind the wood stove to help retain the heat, eco fan or fans on top, they use no electricity, and still circulates during a power outage, a tea kettle to distribute moisture and raise humidity so you feel warmer, also open the oven door and put a blower fan in there to blow a hotter source of heat. Also I'd be making jerky and biscuits in the oven!
Yeah waiting with baited breath for this one!!! BAM there it was and here I am LOL. Yep nothing like a wood fire. Feels good too. I love my stove, should've bought one a bit bigger. But I do the same thing you do. You have with your rocks etc built a rocket mass type of heating. I may have to do something around mine as well. With the door to the stairs open it drafts like a chimney.
Fire 🔥 good... fire hypnotic... fire 🔥 warm!!! Fire 🔥 good...
Great information thank you! Im having better luck with my outside wood boiler than you did but I’m always considering my options.
i know this video is five years old but i still wanted to recommend those sterling engine fans that use the wood stove heat to blow hot air around the room!
New subscriber here. Ive watched all your wood burner videos. I really like the affordable approach you took to the hearth. I think im going to copy it and adjust for my own install. I foolishly had a fireplace built into the main floor of our ranch home but did not have the chimney ran to the basement. So unfortunately i now need to run a second stove pipe. Cant change it now so ill just have to deal with the second pipe.
I've heard that some people put vents in the ceiling for heat to go up and then vents that go down with pipes that go to within a foot of the floor for cold air to maximize convection of air.
Looks great. Grab an ecofan. Runs off the heat of the stove and really moves the air very slow but steady. Thanks.
I live in South Florida and have no use for heating but I love wood burners CZcams for some reason.
I have a massive wood stove that devours wood. I feel yours small stove works way better. It must just be built way better. Great video!
Chad, check you chimney exhaust temperature, you may be mostly heating the outdoors. Use a fan to move heat off the stove into the room instead of up the chimney.
@@ccorm3350 I also need to chop down an entire forest each summer to feed my stove🔥. The towns folk enjoy it too as I heat the surrounding area. It’s amazing.
Need to get a couple of those thermal fans they work great
Having lived in AK since the mid 80’s and heating a home with wood only for 4 years in Bethel, I will say 2 words.
Blaze King.
Any semi-decent wood stove will provide more heat than you need if fired continuously, but the real trick is being able to throttle it back and maintain efficiency and consistent temps. That can only be done with a catalytic wood stove. And the only decent one made is blaze king. The king model will burn for almost 48 hours when filled with quality firewood and throttled down or 18-14 hours when it’s really cold outside. Vermont castings don’t hold a candle.
I love our blaze king
I fill it twice a day unless it's really cold.
Don't know why you'ld have anything else.
I’ll pass on those overpriced and maintenance heavy catalytic stoves. These stoves are ten times better. Being marketed as a cooking stove, they avoid all the dumb EPA requirements and are exempt! Best selling point of the nectar stoves.
You should put a pan of water on the stove really it will dry out the house quick. I love the bedroom to be cooler then the rest of the house. Wood is the best heat you will warm up when you cut,split,stack and burn what else can warm you at least 4 times.
i agree, heat travels better in more humid air
A cast iron tea pot on stove. Install water grid to pre heat your hot water. Using wood stove
love wood heat...
A good place to add a vent is near that back door so the cold air falls toward the heated area and recirculate when warmer.
the way I get our 3300 sq ft house at an even temp heating with a wood stove is run the blower on the central units before bedtime. Really stirs up the air and gets rid of cold spots.
Looks like another cold winter for Michigan.
if you are able, there is usually a switch to reverse the direction of your ceiling fan (counter clockwise), which will take your warmer air and push it lower.