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A short time ago I bought a TInyHawk-S as I am new to quads and wanted to start small with something that was robust and could take a few crashes and not be damaged. I saw the TinyHawk-S reviewed by many with great praise, now I regret buying anything from them. I received my TInyHawk-S, with a defective ESC as far as I can tell, upon powering it up, I began to set up the VTX, you plug in the battery and hold in the VTX button and start counting flashed to figure out what channel you want to be on, well about 5-10 min into setup, I see white smoke coming from the board. I quickly unplugged it and waited plugged it back in, and it seemed ok. I continued the setup, and test flew it, and it seemed fine. I flew it a total of 4 times successfully, doing basic hovering and doing small circle circuits. I put it away after 4 flights, next day went to do more flights, plugged in a new battery, white smoke again appeared and this time the quad was dead, now it still powers up in betaflight and you can read the FC and stuff but it will not fly, or power-up under battery. I can only figure the one ESC is dead where the smoke appeared new the one motor plug. I did not want to try and get warranty, it was a 50 dollar board and I know small company’s would more than likely blame me for it all, so to avoid the hassle I just bit the bullet and ordered a new FC at my expense. The new board arrived, it arrived with the FC not properly flashed, it would not go into DFU mode, all motors turned same direction and I was stumped. I stumbled upon a EMAX channel where they gave instruction on flashing a TinyHawk-S, in fact I thought it strange the title was binding the TinyHawk-S, and it started out flashing a new quad out of the box and flashing a new HEX and CLI?????? it also gave a piece of software to fix the FC should it not want to enter into DFU mode. Hmmmmm sounds like my issue exactly, why would the produce such a video if this were not an issue. Well I followed the video in the video description it gave the links to download the FC fix software to enter DFU mode, it gave the betaflight software, and it gave the HEX and CLI software. Now the real crap starts, the description link takes you to the newest version of Betaflight, the one they use was 10.5, the description takes you to 10.6, in the video the use the betaflight target as MATEKF411RX, in 10.5 this is ok, in 10.6 you have to pick from 2, MATEKF411RX(Legacy) or MATEKF411RX(MTKS) well this was something the video did not cover, I was stuck having to test both and try and figure out what target may work, till this day I still do not know, I was told by some forums to pick the MTKS version, this is not working so well. Anyway, I left comments on that channel as to why they would not update the video with proper flashing tutorial, they told me that they did not recommend flashing at all, even though the video the first thing they did before even binding was flash the FC with new HEX and CLI, I also explained that the board would not even enter DFU mode and all motors spun in same direction, they then recommended I submit a ticket as I think they realized they gave me info that was not within the proper methods. I submitted a ticket and got abused by the same guy that was running that channel stating I did not need to flash the board even though it was not properly flashed in the first place, and he gave me new info to us BLheli to switch 2 of the motors spinning in wrong direction. Ok fine I went along with that next but simply asked to get correct HEX and CLI and target info to straighten out the mess I already got into, then they started on trying to get the board back and trying to warranty the FC, at my expense of course, I did not want this I only wanted to get the info to fix the issue they basically caused. This turned out to be a disaster I got accused of being confrontational and combative as I was not obeying his orders, his words not mine, and that if I do not follow the orders my ticket would be closed. I replied I only want info to fix the issues caused by the video and to correct the motors spin. Well Ticket closed. I open a new ticket, this time got same guy, same really rude attitude as I think should his misgiving be discovered he may be in hot water. Well we again went down the path he would not support anything but me sending in the FC for warranty. I did not think it needed warranty just to be properly setup and configured, and I asked for that info and for him to stop being so rude and help me, well Ticket Closed Again!!!!!!! I urge anyone reading this do not by from EMAX, after reviewing a great deal of forums I found may in the same exact boat as me with FC issues, boards with motors coming spinning all same direction, now this may be easy for you experienced guys, but I am very very new and got directions that got me in hot water from EMAX itself. I have contacted the Office of Corporate and Consumer Affairs, I have a standing complaint in with the Attorney Generals Office, and the BBB. They are not having any great luck either, but a back conduct is going to be set against EMAX should they fail to comply and I am putting out this post to many channels involving Emax and TinyHawk. BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for reviewing this bird. Let me give all a word of caution. When flying 2s, the motors get nuclear hot. The only change I made to mine was to up the super rates to 0.8. The first snap roll I did on 2s ( on 2s pids) caused it to do a death roll. The second time I did a snap roll, she died. The board is toast. One LED lights up but won't do anything. Won't connect via USB, no power to vtx. Nothing. So in the end, I concluded that perhaps on 2s , you should keep your superrate set at 0.7. I don't think the board can handle the inrush of current draw even though it's been upgraded to 5A. Honestly, I don't see the motors lasting very long if flown on 2S for extended periods. They get crazy hot. Thx
Hey bro, good to see you again👍🏽😀 hope all is goin well for you guys, and managing to get some sleep😴and little one is doin good.?? Big like from me mate I do like that it flys well. I’m doin something with my babyhawk 3” is gona be great 😜👌
I love everything E-Max has been coming out with!!!! The new 4 inch is so cool!!! But i would do better with something like this!!! Im like you and i enjoy flying around the yard!!! Looks like another sweet brushless whoop!!!! Great Channel & Great Review!!!! 👍😀👍
2 s for me felt really off. The throttle range fells so minimal it was really strange. Also I’m kinda suprised how much vtx noise I’m getting, my beebrain lite gets a much cleaner signal. Mine is from the latest batch that comes with top mount motor plugs and a built in capacitor that emax added.
@@djs134 yeah i wondered. I am giving this one away as our august giveaway so i didn't want to take it apart. Albert Kim claimed it helped him so i was curious about what you found.
The Quadcopter Review yeah I pulled it out thru the large opening behind the camera like you did on your version 1 tinyhawk. I mean it’s not terrible but I was just kinda suprised that I get screen flashes while in the same room as the quad. My beebrain lite doesn’t have this problem until I get a few rooms away. I mean I do love this quad though. 4min flight times and turtle mode are a must. I love how the quad handles on profile 1 rate 3 I think. It gives .70 super rates that respond amazing. Love the channel man.
Did you have issues with “runaway” errors on 2s? When I bump anything on 2s it would error and fall. I turned it off in the cli which seems to help. I use stick commands to switch pids. If you forget, 1s pids might fly away with 2 cell batteries. All in all, I have found it Superb on 1s with faster rates, but have been struggling to find a 2s groove.
I had no issues other than choppy vtx signal to my goggles with the antenna tucked inside and what i would call horrible flight times of 2 minutes but that's likely that supplied battery.
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Great review, Pepe! 😃
Emax is really rocking lately!
+1👍 all good for the neighborhood
A short time ago I bought a TInyHawk-S as I am new to quads and wanted to start small with something that was robust and could take a few crashes and not be damaged. I saw the TinyHawk-S reviewed by many with great praise, now I regret buying anything from them. I received my TInyHawk-S, with a defective ESC as far as I can tell, upon powering it up, I began to set up the VTX, you plug in the battery and hold in the VTX button and start counting flashed to figure out what channel you want to be on, well about 5-10 min into setup, I see white smoke coming from the board. I quickly unplugged it and waited plugged it back in, and it seemed ok. I continued the setup, and test flew it, and it seemed fine. I flew it a total of 4 times successfully, doing basic hovering and doing small circle circuits. I put it away after 4 flights, next day went to do more flights, plugged in a new battery, white smoke again appeared and this time the quad was dead, now it still powers up in betaflight and you can read the FC and stuff but it will not fly, or power-up under battery. I can only figure the one ESC is dead where the smoke appeared new the one motor plug. I did not want to try and get warranty, it was a 50 dollar board and I know small company’s would more than likely blame me for it all, so to avoid the hassle I just bit the bullet and ordered a new FC at my expense. The new board arrived, it arrived with the FC not properly flashed, it would not go into DFU mode, all motors turned same direction and I was stumped. I stumbled upon a EMAX channel where they gave instruction on flashing a TinyHawk-S, in fact I thought it strange the title was binding the TinyHawk-S, and it started out flashing a new quad out of the box and flashing a new HEX and CLI?????? it also gave a piece of software to fix the FC should it not want to enter into DFU mode. Hmmmmm sounds like my issue exactly, why would the produce such a video if this were not an issue. Well I followed the video in the video description it gave the links to download the FC fix software to enter DFU mode, it gave the betaflight software, and it gave the HEX and CLI software. Now the real crap starts, the description link takes you to the newest version of Betaflight, the one they use was 10.5, the description takes you to 10.6, in the video the use the betaflight target as MATEKF411RX, in 10.5 this is ok, in 10.6 you have to pick from 2, MATEKF411RX(Legacy) or MATEKF411RX(MTKS) well this was something the video did not cover, I was stuck having to test both and try and figure out what target may work, till this day I still do not know, I was told by some forums to pick the MTKS version, this is not working so well. Anyway, I left comments on that channel as to why they would not update the video with proper flashing tutorial, they told me that they did not recommend flashing at all, even though the video the first thing they did before even binding was flash the FC with new HEX and CLI, I also explained that the board would not even enter DFU mode and all motors spun in same direction, they then recommended I submit a ticket as I think they realized they gave me info that was not within the proper methods. I submitted a ticket and got abused by the same guy that was running that channel stating I did not need to flash the board even though it was not properly flashed in the first place, and he gave me new info to us BLheli to switch 2 of the motors spinning in wrong direction. Ok fine I went along with that next but simply asked to get correct HEX and CLI and target info to straighten out the mess I already got into, then they started on trying to get the board back and trying to warranty the FC, at my expense of course, I did not want this I only wanted to get the info to fix the issue they basically caused. This turned out to be a disaster I got accused of being confrontational and combative as I was not obeying his orders, his words not mine, and that if I do not follow the orders my ticket would be closed. I replied I only want info to fix the issues caused by the video and to correct the motors spin. Well Ticket closed. I open a new ticket, this time got same guy, same really rude attitude as I think should his misgiving be discovered he may be in hot water. Well we again went down the path he would not support anything but me sending in the FC for warranty. I did not think it needed warranty just to be properly setup and configured, and I asked for that info and for him to stop being so rude and help me, well Ticket Closed Again!!!!!!! I urge anyone reading this do not by from EMAX, after reviewing a great deal of forums I found may in the same exact boat as me with FC issues, boards with motors coming spinning all same direction, now this may be easy for you experienced guys, but I am very very new and got directions that got me in hot water from EMAX itself. I have contacted the Office of Corporate and Consumer Affairs, I have a standing complaint in with the Attorney Generals Office, and the BBB. They are not having any great luck either, but a back conduct is going to be set against EMAX should they fail to comply and I am putting out this post to many channels involving Emax and TinyHawk. BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad to see you posting content. It's almost like you recently had a major life change that takes all of your time.
Thanks for reviewing this bird. Let me give all a word of caution. When flying 2s, the motors get nuclear hot. The only change I made to mine was to up the super rates to 0.8. The first snap roll I did on 2s ( on 2s pids) caused it to do a death roll. The second time I did a snap roll, she died. The board is toast. One LED lights up but won't do anything. Won't connect via USB, no power to vtx. Nothing. So in the end, I concluded that perhaps on 2s , you should keep your superrate set at 0.7. I don't think the board can handle the inrush of current draw even though it's been upgraded to 5A. Honestly, I don't see the motors lasting very long if flown on 2S for extended periods. They get crazy hot. Thx
As always thanks for that insight RCing. This is why we have the channel and share these things. this is great info to know.
Thanks for sharing the tip, I think I’ll be sticking with 1s now.
Hey bro, good to see you again👍🏽😀 hope all is goin well for you guys, and managing to get some sleep😴and little one is doin good.?? Big like from me mate I do like that it flys well. I’m doin something with my babyhawk 3” is gona be great 😜👌
My main problem is she will not sleep in her crib. She wants to be held. So it is hard for me to do much with her in my arms right now.
The Quadcopter Review bless ah, she will get used to it mate, takes time. 👍🏽😊 best wish to you all from here in the uk.
When I was binding the tiny Hawk S the camera lens fell right off the camera board I haven't even got it to fly yet
I love everything E-Max has been coming out with!!!! The new 4 inch is so cool!!! But i would do better with something like this!!! Im like you and i enjoy flying around the yard!!! Looks like another sweet brushless whoop!!!!
Great Channel & Great Review!!!!
👍😀👍
what is the best brushed that can take 1sor2s and is there a brushed toothpick worth getting or stick with the whoop style frames?
On brushed I personally would stick to the Whoop frame. My personal favorite at this time is the BeeBrain Lite by Newbeedrone.
2 s for me felt really off. The throttle range fells so minimal it was really strange. Also I’m kinda suprised how much vtx noise I’m getting, my beebrain lite gets a much cleaner signal. Mine is from the latest batch that comes with top mount motor plugs and a built in capacitor that emax added.
I pulled my video antenna out also like you suggested and the noise is still so noticeable
Did you pull the vtx antenna out of the canopy yet? Just curious. I had crazy noise to as you saw with it in.
@@djs134 yeah i wondered. I am giving this one away as our august giveaway so i didn't want to take it apart. Albert Kim claimed it helped him so i was curious about what you found.
The Quadcopter Review yeah I pulled it out thru the large opening behind the camera like you did on your version 1 tinyhawk. I mean it’s not terrible but I was just kinda suprised that I get screen flashes while in the same room as the quad. My beebrain lite doesn’t have this problem until I get a few rooms away. I mean I do love this quad though. 4min flight times and turtle mode are a must. I love how the quad handles on profile 1 rate 3 I think. It gives .70 super rates that respond amazing. Love the channel man.
Did you have issues with “runaway” errors on 2s? When I bump anything on 2s it would error and fall. I turned it off in the cli which seems to help. I use stick commands to switch pids. If you forget, 1s pids might fly away with 2 cell batteries. All in all, I have found it Superb on 1s with faster rates, but have been struggling to find a 2s groove.
I had no issues other than choppy vtx signal to my goggles with the antenna tucked inside and what i would call horrible flight times of 2 minutes but that's likely that supplied battery.