Presonus Studio One 6 : The Good / The Bad / The Ugly
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- In todays video I'm talking about Presonus Studio One 6.
This one feels a bit strange and even if we got a couple of great new features it doesn't live up to the "6" name.
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00:00 Intro
00:47 Smart Templates
01:57 Customization Editor
03:45 Video Track
04:33 Track Presets
06:58 Pro EQ 3
07:21 Fader Flip
07:40 Panning Modes
09:00 Start Page
10:00 FX with sends
10:40 Micro
11:20 More Features?
12:38 The Rant
#studioone6
What do you think about Studio One 6?
disappointed...
You appeare so sad about Studio One 6 upgrade...
You make this video in bad day Man...
For me, this should be 5.6
@@AfroRaggaFlowMan the whole S1 community is mourning, they let us down
The new features will certainly be useful for some users, but it is certainly not a major update. And therefore not worth the money. Let's wait for the further minor updates ... I am hopeful ;-)
Finally!!! A honest review. I spoke to someone who had an advance copy an knew what to expect. This was more a release for the shareholders not the user base. A release simply because they had to put something out. The video editor is a very welcomed edition and is the only reason I may upgrade.
Dont upgrade, it s really not worth it. It should have been a free update on studio 5 .
This update is more like a 5.5 -> 5.7 or something like that. I don't know if Presonus is having a financial problem, but this update is not worth it (why do they want to sell such a small update as a big update?
Absolutely agree
Agree x2
I second that
I agree
A couple of things I like, e.g. Video functions, lyrics, dynamic EQ. I also agree it is an update, not an upgrade to a new version. I think that in the Presonus shop, it’s actually called an UPDATE. So, it’s not something Presonus ( or Fender) is unaware of.
You do it the wrong way ! Once you've set up your track in the arranger view with your own preferences, simply drag it with the mouse to the folder named 'Track Presets' in the open Studio One browser. From there, you can drag it back into any song with all the settings you previously configured.
you are perfectly right . I tried it and it works. Thanks a lot
You haven't understood the Track Presets feature. You need to "Load Track Preset" instead of "Apply Track Preset". It recalls everything, colors, all effects including the entire routing. "Apply..." just applies channelstrip settings. Also, saving and loading via drag'n'drop is way faster than with the dialog windows you use in your video.
I agree with you pro. It's a shame S1 is not showcased more by content creators on YT. It's super powerful. I've used S1 for 6 years and I love it. I'm using S1-5 professional and I don't think I'll be upgrading S1-6. Good vid man.
Completely agree with all you said. I was hoping the Fender purchase wouldn’t affect the quality of this awesome DAW, but this is definitely not a good indicator of things to come. So sad 😭
Can Studio One 6 be synced to an external midi clock? (not midi time code).
thanks a lot for the review. I agree about the Studio One content being not current - but their videos to get started are amazing
You are absolutely correct my friend. This happens, when a company is a hardware manufacturer with a small DAW department in a foreign country
Oof, right in the kokoro
You live in Germany and call your own country foreign? Weird!
And it's not a small DAW department at all, but originally a company bought by Presonus. And this company was founded by Mathias Juwan and Wolfgang Kundrus, who previously worked as leading developers at Steinberg (Cubase/Nuendo). Juwan also developed the VST3 standard. The company is headquartered in Hamburg, Germany, the same city that is home to Steinberg. Furthermore, there is also a development department in the USA that works closely with the one in Germany. Your comment is just stupid!
@@chribu1 stupid is if you don’t understand the perspective I was using. Second of all it’s a fact that it’s all about funds of a company and if those get split into different product departments instead of just one major product (look at Ableton) you get a mediocre unspectacular update like Studio One 6. But why are you so offended in the first place? Who hurt you?
@@chribu1 Pretty sure he was talking about Fender my guy, not Presonus
@@alexandersorbas1881 What "perspective" is that supposed to be? OTHER countries are not necessarily FOREIGN countries, after all. Unless you are xenophobic or hostile (and that's what your comment sounds like). In fact, it doesn't matter how a job is divided spatially. In any case, that will not be the reason why this update failed. EOD.
Looks like we came to the same conclusion on this one! Love S1 also just hope things get better from here. 🙏
I also agree, so what I want to get at; is it professionally comparable to industry standard DAWs like Pro Tools, Pro Logic, or Ableton? I'm advancing into pro sound design, as a freelancer I want to be able to communicate on the same level with major studios; Skywalker, Marvel, Bungie, Bad Robot, Netflix...etc. Is sticking with Studio One 6 worth it or should I be working with the Same DAWs they use?
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Bruh... you've hit the nail on the head!!! Agree with everything you said... AND.. your last point about content creators doing something dope with S1 is bang on the money... WHY would Presonus show off their new Vocoder on drums???? It's a Vocoder. Show it on vocals!!!!! Show us the new features with someone current and in the industry making stuff that its users can relate to.
I understand Gregor and Joe are employees, but having current working producers, composers, mixers etc... navigate through the new features would make it feel like way less outdated.
you are right ...i felt the same .....
the amount they are asking for upgrade is not justified.
earlier the upgrade amount was not 150usd its too much compared to the items i get
i am not going to upgrade now.
Hi I have a question ⁉️ my PC has low specifications:
intel(r) celeron(r) 2957u @ 1.40ghz
4 GB ram
Intel(R) HD Graphics
1000 GB HDD Harddisk
could these specifications run's Studio one 6 artist without having problems❓
I must agree with you. This version made me feel a bit underwhelmed. This is more like a .1 or .5 upgrade, not a new version.
I think its wrong to say a 0.1 update, but certainly in the 10 months since 5.5 they could have released these features in 2 or maybe more 0.1 updates. Its a little underwhelming.
@@koolroskii9746 You're right. 0.1 was a bit harsh, but certainly only an upgrade within the version 5. I still love Studio One though. :)😃
FIRST. I love Studio One but this update has me hesitant for the first time. I want to love it but the only feature beneficial for me is the video player but i own NUENDO 12 so I'm good there.
I think what's great about SO6 is that it's already a great DAW. These seem to be small changes (on the surface) that probably took some time to implement. If you look at the main features this time, the Panning updates, Fader Flip, UI customization, and especially the video integration probably took some time to get right without bugs and are more foundational updates. I believe that those are now out of the way, we will get more plug in and content updates in the lifespan of SO6.
The good thing is, Studio One is already a fantastic DAW. Yes, everyone has wishes they want to see implemented, but I know that they are all "cherry on top" kind of things. "Oh I want this niche feature from Cubase/Logic/Reaper" or whatever. Other DAWs, like Pro Tools you could say things like "I want proper MIDI editing and workflow". Abelton and Reason you could say "I want better audio editing/recording" features. These are BIG blindspots, and those DAWs obviously have their niche markets. Studio One is in that Logic/Cubase world that does almost everything right. Live analog band recording? Check. Composing for a film? Check. Has good plug in selection? Check. Good at audio editing? Check. Good at MIDI? Check. Usable Mixer? Check. etc.
I'm hoping to always see more improvements, but the good thing is there's nothing "big" that's missing, and it has a lot of unique features that other DAWs don't have, while having almost everything else as well with a good interface and execution of those features.
I understand your concern they may update and put some of your suggestions in the update
I am a 100% with you. Very underwhelming update from them. Nothing new. Some previous .5 versions brought more new features. A big let down.
well, i had a 2 years break with music, got SO 4.6 back then.. was pretty happy that i did not upgrade to 5 initially because of the early bugs... now an upgrade for 4.6 to 6 on black friday seems like a good choice. Im very happy to be able to customize the browser.
This update has some of the most requested features in Studio One. Stereo Pan integrated in the mixer (in the past it was frustrating to work with sends with the dual pan plugin). Now we have Follow Main Pan on sends. The fader flip is something that most pro tools users who now use Studio One wanted for years, it feels very diferent to automate sends with the fader. The way that eq3 works now is one of the most useful in any daw. The interface looks more polished, all this plus the good things you mentioned in the video, for me this update was very good and I’m pretty sure we’re going to get amazing things in the next Studio One 6 updates.
5.5.2 is just great ! thanks !
My impression from Presonus description of new features mostly reflects your opinions. Ill stick with v5 and see if they give me a good reason to upgrade later, but with how I use the software it's not with upgrading at this point.
spot on!
Regarding the rant section, I see multiple reasons why it might have been released early. First, the merger with Fender; second before Black Friday, and third before Christmas in USA. It does seem like there are a lot of additions that are above and beyond an incremental version 5 update. As far as video stuff, I bought Magix Movie Studio software years ago that speacilizes in that purpose for like $69. It can do multi camera videos and so much more and syncing the music in SO to the video. It even comes with it's own free recording software, which is ironic. So that feature is not impressive to me.
Yes i use s1 since 2013.. i feel the same about s1 ver 6 its like about updated like 5.8 not a major updates
you switch to mac ?
I feel the same way 💯
THANK YOU. I love StudioOne but im not going to upgrade just yet, this version is simply lackluster to me. Also - they still haven't resolved the issue where MixFx plugins dont affect channels where sidechaining takes place (they're treated as regular send channels so MixFx are off for those tracks)
Yeah, I’ll wait until studio one 6.5 and see what else they got. Logic pro is my main DAW right now, but I also use studio one.
I’m still happy with 5 lol. I’ll upgrade when they get to 7 or 8
I purchased the upgrade. S1 is my fav, despite some dalliance with Reaper. Which is great. The way I see it is I’m paying for all the upgrades they will make to s6 over the next 2 years. In that respect, it’s worth it to me.
i agree
they always come with features during random updates
@Nathaniel Walker man its about can you get the job done now..and yes in both daws you can...cubase been out since 87...s1 did more in a few years than cubase history..
@Nathaniel Walker Yeah, but Cubase sucks
I agree with all your points. It still seems like they are taking from Cubase, albeit still behind in a lot of respects. If Cubase is taking from Ableton, S1 will always be a few steps behind. I was expecting maybe a live launcher like Ableton, especially since they put out the performance page. Also, the midi FX/plugins/instruments are way behind most other daws. The sampler needs an overhaul. And no resizable plugins and GUI in 2022? I’ve also had 2 crashes already. Removing a track while transport was playing, and another copying an even to another channel. 😮
Have you noticed any performance improvements yet? I use Studio One 5 but lately I've been thinking of downgrading to 4, which actually ran a lot better for me.
nothing - it really seems like its the exact ame engine. It has freezed as usual for me when shutting down project.
good job i feel the same
I just started using Studio One 6 and IT IS A DISATSER - DREADFULL UPDATE. Still can not go to the BUS track from inspecotr and still u can not color piano roll with a scale...there is like almost NOTHING NEW here. Even folders in Browser are stupid cos you can not make them default in view
The only thing missing on the Pro EQ is a linear phase mode.
Great video and I totally agree. I bought the upgrade but I’m very underwhelmed but it. Save you’re money. This is more like a point update and not worthy of a full number. I also noticed that it would not load the VST3 version of my SSL plugins-the AudioUnit versions where there but not the VST versions. Curious. Again, save your cash.
The ability to have Track presets that allow someone to set up a complex Kontakt set of instruments, an Opus set of instruments, etc is worth the upgrade fee to me. Toss in the bouncing ball Lyrics track, Fader Flip, Track notes and show active tracks under cursor and it will help me work faster and easier. Seems like a reasonable update.v If I could ask for one upgrade it would be to better take advantage of multicore systems. I have a 10 core system that I do not think efficiently distrubutes cpu load evenly across the cores.
100% in agreement
2probeats , this is awesome video as always ! For us that we are starting now, are 1.000 (one thousand) hours enough to reach a relatively pro technical level of competency ? (Inspiration is another thing) . ( That means 1,5 hours / day for 2 years).
Thanks for this honest review. I switched away from S1 to Reaper a few years ago and see nothing here to entice me to move back.
totally agree with you bro
I think it's worth it for Dual Pan and ProEQ3 alone. The upgrade for the entire DAW is cheaper than Fabfilter ProQ3. Better video integration is awesome too, I don't really see what the problem is?
its not worthy if u have waves. i can do that dynamic eq thing in waves and thats cheap.
It feels like a minor version upgrade
Pro Q3 also does approx. 135 other things, half of which I use on a daily basis
That corny ass looking vocoder is one of the problems I know for sure. 🤣
@@tri-unetrl3966 the corny ass vocoder is something I miss from Ableton, it's really cool on drums and synths. Dual Pan is something I miss from ProTools. These are actually 2 requests I've posted in the forum. The only thing left for me is the implementation of zplane warping algorithm.
I'm still on v4 and might just keep using it till this goes on sale for black Friday
Agree this is a let down of an update. My vst3's don't load anymore in V6, wtf.
I don't update!!
I started using bitwig, granted bitwig is still limited in some aspects but their updates have been crazy. I wasn't impressed (but happy users got it) with new eq , desser, and vocoder because bitwig already has them. I'm fine using s1 5.5 until future 6 updates sell me on 6.
Bitwig is next level with most things, except for I can’t stand the way the mixer looks.
been using bitwig since the beginning..it has its pros and cons just like any daw
strange…the track presets incl remembering i/o and colourcoding works perfectly fine here. fyi, i use 2 presonus quantum 48 interfaces …
Can you apply a saved track preset to a new audio track? You can clearly see in the video that I did that and it didn’t worked 😟
Yeah, totally agree with your assessment. I am pretty sure that anyone that gushes over this update is being paid for it. I will wait for something much more profound before I upgrade from 5.
I feel they dropped the ball on this one. Was like (that’s all they added) but i hope 6.1, 6.2 etc will be more satisfying. I feel like they been killing with it with version 5 updates, made you wonder what was next. Version 6 was like ohh……… that’s it!!!!!!
We’re any of the other stock EQs, Compressors and VU Meter updated with better graphics? The VU Meter looks cartoonish.
I'm asking this question a lot but no one is answering it, Can you time stretch the video?
Agree 👍
One thing I am noticing about the feedback to Studio One is that there are very distinct audiences, and that makes it very hard to please everyone. Like they're trying to cover so much ground. Personally, I am waaay more interested in the production side of things. Sound design, writing. Track templates make no sense to me, since what I would use them for is either already covered with song templates, or should be done with more intricate effect racks functionality.
On the other hand, I was suuuper excited about the plugin changes, especially the vocoder. I mean, that is obviously almost never a mixing tool, but it is a very important writing/production tool fopr contemporary music from pop/hip-hop songs to Colour Bass/Dubstep etc. The Pro EQ changes I would have been absolutely mental about, if I hadn't already bought the Slate Bundle for Inf EQ.
There's also this problem of attracting new users vs. keeping existing customers. Some people want Dolby Atmos more than anything, I personally couldn't care less about that.
The one thing I actually am mad about is the lack of a changelog you mentioned, which indicates to me, that stability and minor improvement probably weren't on the list. Further underpinned by the fact that version 6 doesn't even start on my main windows workstation. It does on MacOS though. I don't know...
For now. I am a Sphere subscriber and I'm closely monitoring the developments in the next minor versions. My feelings are very mixed. Like ... What I *wish* for are proper effect racks with automatable macros, improved sample browsing, automatable pitch shift. EDM production oriented stuff.
But in reality, what I might actually take my hat about and finally switch over to (probably) Bitwig is stability, bugs (especially concerning routing) and performance. We'll see what the future brings.
i'm a sphere member too, i think that being a sphere member i have no complains, always paying those 15 dollars per month. wich is okay. I was hoping for an update to sampleone and a rack system similar to bitwig or ableton. I'm sure we will get those with time.
@@jasongunner9238 Yeah, a rack system would be really dope. With automizable macros for them, and also I would love being able to bundle them, so they present as one single plugin, unless you start some editing mode (obviously recursively). Also so you can actually share them with other users, just as with certain competitors.
The lack of development had me considering leaving S1 but this underwhelming paid update was the nail in the coffin. Fender is doing to Studio One what Gibson did to Sonar.
Totally agree and Studio One is my main daw, and because we like it the deception is bigger.
Don’t know if this is something related to it but the company was sold not long ago to an old guitar company, so not sure what to expect for the future. Certainly not the great hype content creator mindset with the sauce.
In the past I was using Digital Performer and they slowly got outperformed by delivering the same kind of updates.
@Nathaniel Walker after all the details you get to the same conclusion, DP got outperformed. 😂 these clip launchers etc, is the result of a desperate attempt trying to comeback once it’s was too late. Despite all the good points.
I think that his intention with this features is to not go to the same rout as Cubase did in the last 12 years, adding more and more features that makes the daw and the workflow really complicated and frustrated for beginners. I think this was something necessary to have a more friendly looking DAW for the majority of the music production community. But I'm not gonna lie, I'm waiting some big features on many different funtions on the DAW. Let's see what they gonna give us this next 2 years.
I think they should make a beginner version of S1 instead of watering down the professional version. Like GarageBand is to Logic.
@@MaximusWhyman Good point. But let's give them the benefit of the doubt. This is a new era for pre sonus. Let's see if they come out better or worse.
Steinberg is going in that direction.
@@lovemusic942 which direction?
Waiting....and waiting....
Studio One user since v2, I use it exclusively for professional mixing since v4. I agree with everything you said. This release feels rushed. There are some cool new features and improvements but not polished enough and aimed more at amateur market. Mostly more clutter (track icons 🤣). And no bugfixes? Come on, Presonus. I'm good with v5.5.2, I'll see you when v6.5 drops.
Double like for video dude!
Great review, I love Studio One like you, but this is pretty elementary. I was hoping that they would have worked on more important things for mixers. After watching this, I’m glad I didn’t pay for the upgrade and I hope that they don’t do what Gibson did with Cakewalk.
Thanks again.
Totally agree this isn’t a major update for me. This are just little gimmicks. I really love studio one but this was not necessary. Maybe some improvement for production would be nice. Like pre listening to the chord track in the chord circle. But ok we will see what’s coming next. Most disappointing is that the update from professional 5 to 6 cost 150 bucks.. like for this? No way I buy it anyway but cmon..
great insight into the failings of the new features. Really disappointed to see you can't drag audio files into new song user templates. That needs fixing
needs true multi channel support, higher order Ambisonics/ dolby support. Putting panning options in the track should have been done from the get go, like every other DAW. Most of these features seem like intermediate bug fixes and not paid upgrades. Video support is cool but could have been better, again multi channel audio for film production would have been the way to go. An Ambisonic tool kit would be awesome as well. As far as plug ins go, they need to update their reverbs for sure.
Completely agree thanks for this video
The main difference between FX and BUS channels are organization. If you sort by FX you get verbs and stuff, if you sort by bus you get your subgroups. That's it.
Track presets are the best. They can include a whole song template.
Orchestra template. Drum mix template. Vocal recording template etc. No need for actual templates now that you can use track presets instead.
Haha I was also shocked about this one 😂 this is ridiculous guys we all know that...but 2pro is still very kind with his words...Presous does not care about S1 that's there way to show it its called studio one 6 😂
I think.most of the features are really nice additions. But not enough for a full upgrade release. It feels like they are missing the big wow to call it a new version
Almost agree with everything in this video
This is a good review. Honestly, I dont see a reason to upgrade. I was hoping for AI drummers and Bassist/ Guitarist plugins, and maybe an easy mastering presets. This is just a graphical interface change to me.
I've been on Sphere for a while so I have it. I must admit, this feels like a 5. 9 or the like. Not a full version update.
Fender owns Studio One now
If I wasnt on the subscription, after this review, I would not have purchased the update. I haven't installed it yet, I'm just gonna ride 5 for a bit longer. They still didn't at patch name scripts for external midi gear.
Presonus just lost a long term customer. I will buy another daw next time , they screwed me up with that studio 6 , i bet it s a new team in charge , because it s the first time that studio one act that way , like a cash machine
I agree 100 % but I was also hoping for atmos integration,better import session data, an updated “listen bus” (more of a virtal monitor controller), and the ability to link plugins in the “group features”
In other words, make it more like Cubase (which has all these features). I totally agree, and was hoping for the same.
Pretty much, yeah. But I like the drag n drop & more simplistic workflow In studio one better. And even Cubase can’t link specific inserts like ProTools can 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻
Thanks for your review, I agree with you 100%, I will not be upgrading
can you send me a studio one 6 installer setup file please?
Studio one still doesn't have autotune plugin for vocals, and saturation plugin, and sound manipulation plugin
Don’t they have “red light district” distortion? I remember using it in earlier versions once or twice. Wasn’t bad, but there just so many better 3rd party ones.
Yes you re right, I mean saturation
I agree with you 100%! Studio One is my DAW of choice because it feels intuitive and less cluttered than some competitors but version 6 just added lots of random stuff that feels more confusing than helpful. I’ll pass.
Exactly! And current features are sometimes very buggy which may make it impossible to use the daw in a big commercial project
I’m disappointed in the fact that a simple numerously requested little feature still hasn’t been added. A group feature to link plugin settings between a track group. It’s used alot on other daws for dialing in dubbed guitar sims .
You talk well, I think so too. Who Bought Presonus?
The goal with fender is to dumb down the DAW so everyone with no experience can use it. My problem is ITS ALREADY EASY to use. They are going to ruin a fantastic DAW so all can use it. Mercedes-Benz did the same thing. They were a top end classy car. Then they wanted everyone to be able to drive one. So they started making cheap versions of the car so everyone could experience a Mercedes-Benz. It lost its prestige after this. Studio one is not hard to use. Read the damn manual and watch tutorials and LEARN IT. No need for templates that basically make the song for you. Fender leave the DAW ALONE.
Yep! And if they try to make it into Abelton I'm done with it.
You can always try it though.
150 bucks... wow. I'll wait for 7 to upgrade
To me it feels they are rushing their releases so people feel the Subscription is better than buying or upgrading the license every 2 years.
5.8
Just bought a new i9 PC and I really don't want to have to install my old Pro Tools software BUT still without a scrubbing tool and the ability to focus right in to micro edits in Studio One I really don't think I have a choice, which is a shame. I'm getting the feeling that Studio One is more concerned with the DJ/EDM 'play around with loops' type of user rather than serious musician/producer/engineer.
Looks like they copied Izotope’s EQ and ideas taken from Cakewalks Inspector
@Presonus #Presonus
It's incredible there isn't a demo mode and release notes. I want to know if the bugs in SO5 have been solved and there's no way appart from paying a month in Sphere...
Bro i agree with you totally i love studio one but this upgrade is shiiiit, i was watching these guys on CZcams with there top 5 DAW, i had to ask why they don't speak about studio one.
Yow I'm disappointed 2pro i think you should reach out to Gregor or Joe
why you worrying about if a big creator using or showing S1?....its about does it help you get your job done as a hobbyists or business lol. i wouldnt care who use it but when they hear my quality they would ask then
For the upgrade for free luckily
These DAWs need to go to legit engineers and producers to get real templates but that's too much like right
Money Money Money Studio One like Money 😁😆
What really annoys me is owning the Pro edition of Studio One and not having access to what Sphere members get when they only have to spend $15 a month. Surely that's a mistake! I'm sticking with Studio One Pro 5.5 for now because version 6 literally added nothing. Seems like Fender wanted to recoup some of the money they paid for Presonus by releasing version 6 which is nothing more than an updated version of 5. The PRO EQ 3 was the only thing that really interested me. Everything else felt very underwhelming.
Sphere IS the way to go, I have it because it's a no-brainer!
Izotope’s eq has the same eq features if you have Izotope
@@Songwriter376 Funny enough I just got Neutron 3 elements by Izotope's but I don't think the dynamic EQ feature is available in that version. I'm currently trying out the free version of NOVA by Tokyo Dawn Labs and it's pretty good. Very similar to the PRO EQ3 but totally free. Saves me $150 upgrading Studio One.
@@audiomixexpert3175 I have Izotope 3 upgrade and it has that feature.
Version 6 should has been version 5.6 or 5.7