How to Social Engineer ISTPs | Cognitive Functions | CS Joseph
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- Today we will discuss how to social engineer ISTPs using cognitive functions
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99% of ISTPs didn’t even watch the whole video and hated that there is no time stamp
Hmmm
How do you know?
albaraa hallaj, because I am one and most types tend to think/behave similarly
👍🏾😂😂
You must be mistyped. There's no waaay you'd just present a broad generalization like that with these cognitive functions lol XD
ISTP here and damn this is pretty on point.. as much as I hate to admit it...
But as satisfying as humbling an ISTP in public may be, DONT let it turn into humiliation... if you publicly humiliate an ISTP you will make an enemy
An enemy that will seek revenge and in the most ruthless way possible.
I know. Geez
Ah, yes. One of the most unfortunate mistakes you could ever make. Do we have poor long-term memory? Sure! But not when it comes to a grudge.
Never forget that we could just dismiss any feelings or rules in or minds. The revenge will be painful and demolishing, done when you are already on the ground.
I'm possibly a psychopath... idk
On point, and he lost me at the memory part less than 10 minutes in when he started with the sanctimonious judgement of his ISTP boss. I know my memory sucks so it's not that I felt attacked.
"Never ask an ISTP how they feel"
YES. PLEASE DON'T. Even if you aren't trying to social engineer us, this is great advice.
Why?
@@anothercath because it's annoying
1. we don't know and we don't like not knowing answers to questions (Fi? what Fi?)
2. it's usually irrelevant. like Morla the turtle, we don't even care that we don't care. we want to know "does it make logical sense?" now we're talking
3. at best, our "S" answer (hungry, bored) isn't going to answer your "F" question anyway. and unless you're going to feed us or take us skydiving, what's the point in talking about it?
@@cam1772fsu
1. So you never know if you're happy, sad, disappointed or angry?
2. Does it make logical sense knowing that it is a well known fact that people are emotional creatures that even you have feelings.
3. Hungry and bored are not feelings, they are states. You can be hungry yet you are still happy about it because you are on a diet for example. Knowing the emotion behind the facts can help us find a solution.
So you can still see feelings as objects to solve.
@@anothercath
1. I generally don't think about them, how could I know what I don't think about? If I'm feeling something strongly enough that I can't ignore it, then you should be able to tell from my body language, I shouldn't have to tell you.
Look at the part of the video where he's holding up the little white board. F is my last function, and to what little extent I do use it, I use it in an extroverted manner, which means I'm much more aware of other people's emotions than my own.
2. No. Knowing a fact and something making logical sense are different things. Emotions themselves are irrational. Here's a fact for you...did you know that the microbes that live in your gut can secrete chemicals that can effect your emotional state, in order to try to manipulate you into eating what they like? So therefore, LOGICALLY, if I don't want to be controlled by microorganisms, I shouldn't pay attention to emotions.
3. Wrong. There are sensory feelings and emotional feelings. I can "feel" cold. I can "feel" tired. I know you want the emotional kind and that's why I said you wouldn't be happy with my Se answer. BTW "happy" is also a "state"....feelings and states aren't mutually exclusive.
Also, if I can be happy whether or not I'm hungry, then my emotional state is irrelevant in my decision about whether or not I am "on a diet" and had nothing to do with finding a solution.
Feelings are not solvable. How do you solve happy?
According to cognitive behavioral therapy theory, you can't change your feelings directly. You can change how you THINK about your feelings and/or you change what you are DOING that is effecting what you feel.
@@cam1772fsu exhibit A: when i learned that my microbes were the ones telling me to eat copious sugar in my oatmeal every morning, i fuckig stopped. because it doesnt matter if i want it any more because i dont actually want it, factually the microbes do. fuck them im getting fat lol my feeling for wanting sugar literally didnt even matter 😆 now i fit in my good shiny leggings!
My ISTP boss walks up while I'm watching this on break. *Hey what are you doing?* Get out of here so I can learn to social engineer you!
I used to be like that, I still get the urge to but I try really, really hard not to lol
Be careful with that, if you get caught it will blow up in your face like you were teething on dynamite
lmao
@@daniellependock2554 nah he will first have to tell him about mbti and the istp would probably think it's stupid and like one of those zodiac signs thing. He is better off just lying about this video, like this guy is explaining a theory on one of my favorite animes or something like that.
@@aladdout9454 I don't know about that.
I took the test curious to see what it was about.
Lying to ISTP is a grave mistake. Better to tell the truth and have them disappointed or just not interested than get caught in a lie that will get you tossed into the untrustworthy category.
Im a female istp and can relate...
1. I admit I have a horrible memory. I can't remember watching movies, most of my childhood... I cant remember what year things happened in. Etc.
2. I won't go to a doctor unless I've *obviously* broken a bone. Like... I broke my foot in 3 places but didnt go to the doc at first because it wasn't visibly bent into a weird angle....
3. I remember sitting at work wondering if my bosses were watching me through the camera because I would be if I were the boss.
4. I hate stupid. And I am stubborn.
5. I can be easily guilted...
6. I have social anxiety
7. And I've been totally betrayed by too many people that I thought were my most loyal people so apparently I really cant detect bad intent very well.
Cristi Hamano yeah especially number 3, I literally won’t go to certain cities in case someone from my job would be there watching me off the clock
Yeah lol that cast was nice for two weeks but I felt like it was restricting me so I was like it’s off now
7. No, you still cannot Ne trickster... stop spying your best people or else you will lose them as well!
Afraid to go to the doctor and also afraid to become a burden??? (guess what? you aready are, mother)
Number 7. Just Learn to be petty, more petty than ISTPs already can be, and question everything and everyone! Surveillance! 😂 that’s how I fixed that problem.
@@Alarycia overcompensation is the name of the game ;)
"Do you WANT to be a BURDEN?!" = My kryptonite
Imagine....And I'll literally end up being a burden...Sheeeshhhh
ISTP - That "you dont wanna be a burden do you?" cut me so deep. Being a burden on the people around me is probably one of my biggests fears in life, and that's why i plan on moving to the woods and living by myself. A life without running the risk of that fear becoming reality, so when i do inevitably start to break down....atleast it will be on my own terms.
You’re kidding right? Did you ever think that going away might make the people who love you sad?
@@cynthiasmith2459 No because their opinion holds very little weight in my life/decision making, and I know who my family is....I don't need to bother/burder them with my shenanigans (especially not when I'm older). Much easier just to head into the woods (maybe bring along an adopted dog or two), and live a life free of potentially bothering others.
Me too. It got me to see a doctor about my foot problem that affected my work.
I don’t ask for help because I don’t want to seem annoying or useless
he creeps me out sometimes, but whatever, im learning.
TIL that i must conserve my foot
“Well, I don’t have any skills” Has anyone heard an ISTP admit to this?
I know an ISTP that was recently bragging about everything he's doing to improve himself (skill wise).
I know another ISTP that's pretty good in math (better than everyone in my class).
So far, I haven't met an ISTP admit to that.
I have, during my lowest points.
@lil shitlips yup, that's how I am when my self of steam hits rock bottom
@lil shitlips Yep, totally relate to this
@@matthewwilliams7170 We internalize it. Heavily. And only open up about our insecurities to our closest friends/confidants.
As an istp I would much rather choose my own ring and I would never trust myself to choose anything for someone else that they'd have to wear for a long time. So the istp guys probably either think they're doing the best thing by letting the girl choose or they're just scared that they'll fuck it up and choose something she won't like.
well said
As a female istp the last thing i would want is for someone to pick out my ring and to pick someone elses
I asked my ex fiancé to pick out a ring, even started having one custom made for her. (Twice, same girl) Thought behind it was that she had to wear it so I wanted it to be exactly what she wanted. Totally wrong thought process. Never will I do it again because 1) it’s not her ring, it MY ring used as an invitation to join MY family. 2) canceling an engagement ring is about the most embarrassing thing you can do and how are you going to propose to someone with a ring someone else designed? F that.
Don't pick her ring. I sent the ring back.. Fuck off with that shit for multiple reasons.
-istp
ISTPs are not "stalkerish" because they are the main types that don't like infringing on other people's personal space. Now "most curious" would probably be the best description for an ISTP personality type. Most people would believe that ISTPs are the most standoffish or aloof, but would agree that ISTPs are most definitely not the ones who would sneak around stalking folks. Every ISTP or ISTJ that I have an in depth conversation with, will pretty much say that they try not to interfere with other people's lifestyles. If your ISTP boss was studying the surveillance at work, then there was an issue he had to adress with the surveillance, or it was just so new that he wanted to be sure that he knew where everything was covered for the sake of future references because he knows that everyone else would be either too sorry to look or too carefree to look or they are the reasons why there has to be surveillance put up.
Totally agree, btw. This thing confused me in the video, too, because I tend to be even more sensitive about privacy matters than most private people I've ever met. Every time I was poking into "someone's" business was, indeed, a _business_ matter, no emotions or relationship involved. The reason I dislike people incapable of separating personal and business matters, actually - they just take your business poking as something personal and get offended and impossible to work with.
It's really like changing hats. Right now you are a specialist working with some mechanism and other specialists who are responsible for it, and the next second, after the problem had been solved, you are just a guy and you can't just intrude on their personal space. From a controlling machine in business matters to a shy guy in one second.
Mmm nope I disagree. ISTP's are total creepers - would make good PIs probably 😅
@@elisabethschlarb3059 of course you do
You’re right, we usually live and let live. The only time an istp stalks if at all, is when they are preparing to go for an enemy or not nice in a while if they miss their ex, which everyone does at some point. As long as you don’t cross me, I could give a damn what you do.
I have very different expirience regarding ISTPs and how they infringe on the personal space on others, i have the feeling that for ISTPs something like personal space of other people doesn't exist
I am female ISTP, I'm not good with words to express myself, feelings, this kind of stuff. People think I am selfish, manipulative or just don't care. Anyway, thank you for the video, I can relate a lot.
INTJ male here. Two of my favourite types, are ISTP and INFP. It's hilarious, and kind of sad; that they hate each other [at least, if they're anything like my super-ego, ISFJ]. I can see each winding up the other, as they really are polar opposites. I love both, for different reasons though. I've had more than one best friend of each type and was engaged to an INFP.
I know the feelings are there with my ISFPs, that's what matters. And I've never met a dumb INFP, nor a dumb intuitive for that matter. Their Ne is like search radar, very powerful. It almost burns if it's on you.
People think I'm selfish too (and I am, I have Fi child-and my Ni+Fi loop can make me almost as bad as an INFP with their Si supercharged [surely the ultimate supercharger for another function is Si] hero Fi). Just one of quite a few things we all have in common.
ISFPs are so efficient. Nothing like me, lol. You have Ni child; so know how that can get, haha. As a function, it drinks time like the space shuttle drinks fuel and can only be used when introverting-I think that's unique amongst the functions. But it is powerful, if Ne's like search-radar, Ni is what guides the missiles to the target, an unbroken lock from launch 'till intercept. Maybe that's why you're so patient with our hero Ni, because you know it's demanding and the child function is always protected. I'm like that with my Fi. You look after your INTJs, I look after my INFPs. Thankfully, my parent Te saves me a bit there, as christ Fi wastes time.
One thing I love about INFPs, is that I've never met one who isn't aspirational with their Te-they all look up to it, right from the start-which couldn't be more ideal. So many types take a lot longer before they treat their inferior as their aspirational [if ever]. Like, if an ESFP does that with their inferior Ni for example...we're done. They just don't respect iNtuition [plus they suck at it-which is the main language I speak]. It doesn't matter if a Sensor has intuition in their forth slot, but they have to at least respect it.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 so would you say istps can speak the intutive language ?
@@malakashraf2801 They have tertiary Ni, which means they respect it. So yes...provided they understand it's not as well developed as their other two functions, so don't try to rely on it like an iNtuitive would.
So may I ask what is your preferred form of communication when you do want to express your feeling towards someone you extremely care about? If I could just figure out my ISTP friend I would do anything and I feel like I have tried everything.
*is looking out the window at my neighbors house, scanning for movement*
"they are the most stalkerish type"
......
*slinks away from the window*
I really like the ISTP I know. It's really fascinating to observe another Ti hero but one that uses Se parent rather than Ne. I do notice in him (and in myself) the tendency to "over help" people at times (ie: insert himself and take it away from them and solve the problem for them rather than letting them fail first). He's supremely logical and thus comes off quite cold (which I can really appreciate in a workplace filled with warm high Fe users and hot high Fi users--and not hot in an attractive way lol)...which is why I like sometimes randomly showing him a pic or vid of a cute puppy bc without fail he gets all animated and goes "Awwww! A puppy!" lol
If you don't have an ISTP grandfather, then do you really have a grandfather?
Exactly!
Łoooł right!
i have an istp grandfather and i am an istp lol
Definitely one of the most memorable grandfather's are ISTP's.
soooo true
My dyscalculia went undiagnosed for 2 decades because I didn’t want to look stupid and admit I have an issue. Can relate. I do have to say my memory is horribly selective, it’s either total dogshit or stalker level memory. If it’s the stalker type memory I’m most likely planning on using it against you! But I will forget that and miss my opportunity.
My husband is an ISTP and is an awesome carpenter. He does not like to manage people at all. People within a type are still individuals and they are not all as you say.
"ISTPs get mesmerised for some reason by ENFPs"
Me an ISTP with and ENFP husband 😧
I am the Enfp fiance soon to be married to my Istp man😊
@@svetlananana9609 congratulations! It really is a good match, we’re 11 years married still going strong with two children now. We gel so well together, I understand how he works and he understands me. Even if that means leaving me alone for a while 😂
My husband calls me and ask: what are you doing, honey? lol
It used to low-key trigger me daily with my dad using Se-parent surveying me quietly during dinner, and now I pass it along knowing it's just checking we're enjoying dinner.
And what's your type anyway?
The love hate relationship between ISTP and ENTP is just amazing
Who said istps love entps? Istps hate and despise entps and cannot tolerate them even for a second let alone years and dunno bout entps but its probably the same
Entps whiny outcasts trying to sell their theorys lets keep it 💯
😂I’m ISTP and my younger brother is an ENTP. We definitely argue a lot but we’ve learned to get past it. Love the little guy!
My best friend has a good friend who is an entp. At the start i thought he was ok but after meeting him some more times i realised i didnt really like him that much but i couldnt figure out why. UNTIL WE HAD OUR FIRST DISCUSSION. Like bruh you can give them a million reasons why they are wrong and they will still tell you "you just dont get it" when you, as istp, have obviously figured out where they are coming from (even if it is illogical)
@@crystalwaters8714 I dunno man you should speak for ur self
You have such a fluency in this stuff. You talk about each personality type as if they were sitting next to you.
entp wish they could be as cool as istp. deal with it
i'm and entp female with a istp male co worker. we both admire each other's coolness, among other things. ;)
Hehe😝
@C.S. Joseph😜
In your wildest dreams my guy. You guys may be good at practical stuff but you'll never be innovative cuz you simply can not.
Opens with “I love ISTP’s!” then proceeds to spend the next 50 minutes bagging on them with adjectives like shallow and hypocrites. Some would say that professing your admiration for a person or group followed by your zeal for putting them in their place would constitute hypocrisy which is equaled only by your arrogance. There is another H-word you seem to lack though... humility! Give it a try.
LOVE THIS
Second comment, but I knew an ISTP who had a daughter in university. Her grades started to fall and he got his son in law who was web security expert to hack into her face book account and discovered she was talking to a boy. To which he promptly ended that relationship. I got a chuckle when you said they responsibly supervise.
so the istp dad caught his daughter cheating and informed the son-in-law right? that's actually very admirable
@@aladdout9454 Too clarify, The man I was talking about had two daughters. The older daughter was married to a web security expert. He requested the help of his son in law to whom the older daughter was married. The younger daughter was in university and her grades started to fall due to her being distracted by a romantic interest. The father ended that relationship to eliminate that distraction
As an ISTP I find it illogical to refuse to ask for help when doing so would result in massive consequences. If I have a test on a subject I can't understand, and I've done all the searching by myself that I could independently, I'm gonna go ask someone for help until I understand. We're walking contradictions aren't we?
yes
Didnt Jung say something about how he cannot fathom how someone could live as the irrationally rational ISTP?....because we are walking contradictions, for sure!
I'm told this all the time! 😂
ISTP here to learn how I could potentially be manipulated.
An ISTP here, I was laughing all the way through this video. This was great. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
“Oouu squirrels 🐿 oou shinyyy 👀 “ 😂 8:38
I just laughed maniacally, nearly to tears, the whole way through because it was one gut punch after another. Thanks.
ISTPs RESPRESENT
Andrew Cable lets talk, I’m an estp I can’t quite understand the difference between us, they’re very minute
@@mireilleuribe2999 estp get laid, istp don't.
@@WillTheFrozen HA!
@@WillTheFrozen I must be a mistype then if you catch my drift
Wow! You did it again! ISTP FEMALE - I become more expert when helping or teaching others. Whether solving their legal problems or teaching operatic vocal technique. I admit that my long term memory does suck but my short term memory is awesome.
Also your example from My Big Fat Greek Wedding is exactly the example I thought of. But I’m not shallow. I challenge you on that one.
This is gold. I'm thinking of setting up an ISTP with an ESTJ.
Don't
It will a fight, I assure that.
This video can save lives
Hahah my wife is ISTP. Now I can understand her more. Thank you. As an INFP male, were like polar opposites. 😂
How's it going?
Why do you guys and ENFPs love us so much? It’s funny
"Ooh look at that flashy research" 😂
I am literally in the process of taking my ISTP friend to get some tests done. I already talked to her about symptoms and possible fatal consequences of her waiting. This has been utterly helpful. Thank you!
Ugh my self of steam just hit the floor lol, you really hit the nail on the head. We are a walking contradiction and honestly I drive myself insane with it. Thanks for the video, I've been waiting for this.
I would love to see a video on Istp women.
@@linyenchin6773 yeah, I'm a pool of self pity
That's a great auto correct! I second the ISTP women suggestion.
@@lann1921 are ISTP girls tomboys or what?
@@DionneKovaleva I have always been tomboyish, spent about a decade just in men's clothes. I don't know if I have met other ISTP women though, I'm not good at typing.
I would also like a video on ISTP women. I'm interested to know how the genders affect personality. Like am I more yang or more yin? I often feel more yang. And I have to say the king warrior magician lover archetypes speak to me a lot more than the feminine archetypes lol. What's wrong with me.
Haha, I think for the most part spot on. you CLAIM to love ISTP's but man! You're sure throwing a lot of shade.... Even though it's mostly deserved. Great vid!
never not throw shade where it belongs. Thanks!
Entps will throw an equal amount of shade (if not more) on themselves too tbf.
As an infj wife of an istp husband, i know he hates it if i physically "let myself go," (his words) - and yet, he never says so until after i've slimmed down and "slapped myself out of it" (his words). I know he likes the look of gorgeous women.... and i know i am getting older, and that with my thyroid problem, i might one day put on weight .... brrrrr! He is loyal, but -
everything happens for a reason: thanks for having an ISTP dad I was forced to develop my ESTJ-subcouncious. Biggest success so far was convincing him working a day less in his office job and using it to do some handcraft / creative work on that day
I used to have a really bad habit of neglecting my health and injuries, I had bad flat feet that I neglected for many years, it got very bad at work that my boss told me to see a doctor and get orthotics. He told me that if I neglect my injuries it can affect the staff and progress at work. So I did and now I perform better and my feet aren't in pain anymore. I have a tendency to ignore physical pain until it gets very bad. I even ignored building emotions so I worked on my inferior Se and Demon Fi. My faith in God helped me work on my Fi and now I consider morality and consider other people better. Since I was really young, as far as I remember, my memory is bad, I always was easily guilted by people I cared about and was always afraid of being a burden.
Thank you for your work, its greatly appreciated. - A 32 year old ISTP, cp 6w5.
Giving options is mega easy. Options means whatever more than one option. One of the options has to be the right one that makes sense and that they have to choose, the other one can be just whatever the crap that they will never consider. But its still an option. Then good to go.
Looking great (even better: exquisite and classy and elegant) helps a lot too. They will want you instantly.
ISP to me as an INP is super easy to manipulate. You manipulate them and they even thank you back and write great references for you. Speechless.
At 44 I wish I had known this stuff in my 20s. I've mis-typed myself as an INTP for a long time before watching C.S. Joseph. I'm actually ISTP I always knew INTP didn't match too well but the tests out there aren't great. You, sir, have made things a lot more clear and have opened my eyes to many things about myself and others. I have an ESTJ boss and since watching your videos I've had an easier time with him.
First view, first comment, first like and as an istp I’ve been waiting for it too
@@theflash5523 he has a video on that. czcams.com/video/zF7XyYBp8dY/video.html (: this man is seriously doing the world a favor!
Thinking about all those social situations all that comes to mind is "Fuck that. I'll just stay in my house with my stuff and learn random skills from youtube for the rest of my life, thank you."
On god
ISTP female here, but I believe I'm more mature in my typing than most.
I like my alone time too much to care what other people are doing while they work. Definitely not shallow in the slightest. I've read enough books, been around all types of people, to know the cover doesn't mean shit. I've been told I'm an old soul, which is probably why I type as ISTP. I have experience and know who I am as a person to be guilted into any act I don't see logical for myself, as you say my "stupid zoning" is too strong to allow it. Being able to look at a situation and see every detailed problem sends instant red flags in my mind so I can tell when someone isn't truthful. Perhaps I just have a strong intuition, mixed with my type which makes it physically impossible to do the wrong thing sometimes. Or allow it around me. Figuring out the proper way to teach, I don't push anyone to do anything. I show people various ways to work and tell them to do what works best for them. As we all learn differently, I don't care as long as the person gets the concept and comes to the same conclusion. It would be too illogical in my mind to ignore that other people are more qualified to identify what is wrong with me physically to never see a doctor about a hindering condition. I believe I have a great long term memory because I value the small circle of relationships I have. It's so rare to find something of interest to me when I do find it I hold on to it and do everything I can to ensure it's security in my mind. I do have one really great friend who understands my decisions need to be presented in a sort of, tree, branching so to say. So, he doesn't ask me what I want to eat he ask hot or cold? Sweet or salty? Which is what I value so much in this person. They don't ask how I am either, they ask what have I been doing? Very much to the point and me being me, I'm always doing something. If you ever want to silence an ISTP, ask them how they feel. Don't know, don't care, I can't compute. I have suffered from depression and anxiety my entire life and even with this I simply state, "I never know how to answer that question." when asked or when I'm feeling conversational I say, "I woke up, not everyone else does so I can't complain." 😅
YOU CRACK ME UP!!! Everything you said was SO true. Get this: ISTP husband of 44 yrs, paralyzed from the waist down for 35 yrs, was active, but now doesnt want to do much of anything. Trying to work out a way to go tent camping. How do you motivate that scenario? He needs the freedom to explore again.
tell him he is a burden
@@CSJoseph SHUT UP🤣
I feel v attacked by the memory thing cuz I know it's true but I still don't believe it lol
That’s the thing, at first when he said that I instantly disregarded it. After further thought, I remember some (usually unimportant) things for a long time, but most things I forget. I usually think I have a good memory because there are some things that I remember very well from many, many years ago.
@@kaedenmurphy9937 i have great memory when it comes to physical things but i don't remember words i can remember the subject and outcome of a conversation but can't actually remember the conversion
A lot of the stuff about pride, assuming people are stupid, not caring about how others feel, and not wanting to commit to people used to be true when I was coming out of high school. Not so much anymore. You can't learn new things if you don't seek or accept help and other viewpoints. You can't help people if you don't try to understand them and consider their feelings. You will never have the partner you want if you don't do your best to be fair to them.
-ISTP almost 30
Oh boy do you have us figured out lol. I literally just had a conversation about how I wouldn't be taken seriously without certifications...
PLEASE STOP PERSONALLY ATTACKING ME WITH THAT ENFP TRICKING ISTP STORY I GET CONSTANTLY TRIGGERED FROM THAT 😂
U explained my istp dad to the t😂
Doctors, body violation, distrust of builders, i ll do it myself. Gosh really istps are that way man
ISTP female, been waiting for this anxiously. Grateful for your work.
Couple of thoughts
1) shallow - don't know about that one. For me it is the logical thing to believe more in what a Harvard professor says than some community college teacher. It's a matter of what are the statistical chances the latter is right? It isn't impossible just unlikely. So I disagree that that is shallowness. It is being critical about the source. #fakenews #callmestubborn
2) The main thing to convince me is deliver the facts. And then don't ask me if you where right. I can't handle it. You be gracious about it and I will act like you are right. That's a massive win.
3) In your example, another effective application of "choice" would have been to point out all the freedom and choice the ISTP loses if they lose their leg. Like your grandpa not being able to work on his land anymore. Not being able to hike or skydive or travel or... chase a squirrel or whatever. The reasons I don't go to hospital are 1) stupid zoning doctors 2) doing my own research using credible sources 3) if you tie me into a hospital bed I am gonna die because of boredom and loss of freedom so I'd rather spend my remaining days chasing squirrels of my choice. Oh and then I would jump off some cliff because I am not afraid of death but of ongoing pain and of being a burden.
4) I am "humble" because I know the insignificance of myself in the universe of endless knowledge and skill. It is not being humble to me - it is taking the realistic perspective on myself.
5) ENFPs and ENFJs make me extremely suspicious about their intentions. I feel like they are manipulative as hell but I never know what they are actually trying to achieve. #NeTrickster
6) I'm married to an ESTJ. #goldenpair The beauty is in social engineering Ni > Ne - no?
Lastly I would really like a deep dive for ISTP (and all other types) on the diffence in male and female.
Difference between male and female would be awesome, but Chase doesn't have life experience w/ ISTP women. Could pool info from the community and see what we come up with.
not true, I have been getting to know one very well recently.
As an ENFP male I can tell you that we come off as manipulative due to the fact that we are trying so hard to build an intimate relationship/friendship with you. But not just bc of your type. We do this with any type. It’s just our natural urge to deeply connect with people and bc we do this by using emotion and emotions are a no no, for ISTPs, I can see where your mistrust is coming from. But other than that we are not trying to harm you. This video starts off relating the story of what seems to be corporate espionage and infiltration by hiring a profesional manipulator. But in rl scenarios an ENFP just wants to connect on a deeper level with you just for the sake of friendship or romanticism as the only gain.
@@vicrackingup2thanks for your perspective
@@justmonique82 No problem, I too ended up marrying an ESTJ and been officially married for 8 years and now goin on 9 soon. Since I still try to connect with people at an intimate level I have to try super hard not to fall in love with the females. My wife is super attractive but when in love, the heart ignores sane judgement.
I’m commenting even before watching the video because I’m just so excited! I’m dripping with anticipation to hear what he has to say about us LOL
Edit: after watching the video:
He definitely ripped us ISTPs a new one!
I agree with the choices and guilt approach. Both would and have worked flawlessly with me. I’m triggered only because it’s pretty spot on.
Marky Mark yes. Let your imagination run wild.
I am freaking loving your bagging of my type. Loving it.
Another great lecture, whoo hoo! I just met an ISTP that is so out of this world with technology astonishing.
I can attest that this is the best advice ever (ISTJ woman here who has used *so* many of these techniques~~they absolutely work although it's all so exhausting).
You make me laugh, thanks.
also that white board gives me great nostalgia, it was in all of your "who are the videos"
That's not why I don't ask for help. I have no illusions that I'm the smartest one in the room. (Though most possibly I am right now, cos my room-mate isn't very bright.) I don't like asking for help because: 1) I can usually take care of it myself and then use what knowledge I gained for future reference should a similar problem occur. 2) I don't like bothering other people with my problems. 3) They're probably going to fuck it up and cause an even bigger problem.
true, but you may also be jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Anyone here in 2024? Great lecture.
My mother is already a burden for not having gone to a doctor with a fucked knee... She spyed on me, through my friends in college until I lost everyone and now I live in constant paranoia of being followed and observed to have my complete and total privacy stirped forever... ~ INTJ
I'm proud of my humility.
Long-term memory with conversations is flawless. Watch what you say to us.
I'm an Istp. I am so grateful for this video thank you!!!!!!!!!
I really enjoy your facial expression, it really seems as if you hate the ISTP. I can't help but to respect your honesty, I know I am annoying but nobody has ever has the guts to say it directly.
Everyone claims I hate them.
I know what he means when he calls us shallow, but it's just because we use our Se and Ti to make logical judgements about people, but knowing we could be wrong (if we're not immature af). The simplest example would be if we see someone is obese, we would think they're probably lazy and have no regard for their health. Call us shallow but *is* that a bad judgement to make when most of the time we'd be right? 11:22 made my Se cringe 😂 but keep it up, I'm entertained.
At 11:22 I was thinking thats a great way to make an enemy out of an ISTP.
At 11.22 I had to pause. Remember when Kevin Spacey did that weird xmas video? It made me feel like that all over again.
ISTP female here. I've been so pleasantly surprised by the accuracy your content, until you threw out that whole "I'm the smartest person here, and too prideful to ask for help" (11:10). Here's my own thinking of the matter:
While we can come off as too full-of-ourselves, there's more to it than that. We engineer our life for teaching others because it fulfills our purpose. Not in a broad sense, but in subjects that pique our interests. It's impossibly difficult to reverse those roles when you need help and you don't want to be a burden. Weakness and showing vulnerability are also not socially accepted traits when you are an ISTP.
INFP here. 31:30 IS SO TRUE. I recently figured out my ex was an ISTP and this is exactly why I broke things off with him. He was always checking for loyalty and eventually I had to break things off with him because he was chasing a "new" girl. And now he's moved on from that girl and is chasing someone else. It's a pretty sad cycle honestly. He can't commit.
well, as an istp i always been very quick to admit to my poor memory, no point in lying/hiding it as its only gonna come back and bite me
Very intriguing lecture! My husband is an istp and I am an enfj. Fun, fun, fun!!!
BTW, You look, move, talk and have facial expressions & body language amazingly like our adult entp son! Same eyes and eyebrows, hairline.Eerie.
I know you don`t like Socionics, but the reason why ISTPs get taken advantage off by ENFPs is that the ISTP`s dual is the ENFJ, so the ISTP is looking for that Fe and I would say ENFPs are better at "portraying" that Fe than real ENFJs. The ISTP and ENFP are conflicting types, so unlike an ISTJ who would be able to to put the ENFP in his place and have a good relationship with, the ISTP will always get the bad end of the deal, since they don`t understand real Fe vs portrayal Fe. There are several stories about this relationship in socionics studies, specially on the russian and croatian websites/youtube channels.
duals are a lie, watch season 5 and 14 playlists to find out why. 14 is on Patreon Gold.
Can confirm ISTP's being good teachers. My ISTP father is a geography teacher.
Really
How did he react to annoying students and noises?
The SHADE thrown in this video I felt in my BONES! ENFP who has a very good ISTP friend. You just DRAGGED him so hard (Even though I love him to death), thank you so much I needed that
Good ol Whiteboard Jr.
40:00 "asking templars if they want to be a burden to make them do anything over and over" 🤣that's awesome advice, thanks Chase :D
I usually stay away from men in fancy suits or clothes because I think we will have nothing in common. I am very casual and not girly and I hate dressing up. And wouldnt want a guy who expects me to always be dressed to impress. I do take care of my appearance like always styling my hair nicely and wearing makeup and keeping my body nice and fit, but I'm always dressed very casually. And when guys care more about their appearance than I do it kind of is a turn off, It makes them seem girly to me. I dont know...
I agree with a lot of this. Not all of them look feminine to me, but I avoid them because they may be too judgy about credentials and I have trouble getting attracted to them because they seem too afraid of what people think. Like they are always on point and too prim and proper
@@harleyashwood7965 yeah I find it annoying when people are too concerned with what other people think of them.
I always get scared watching these ISTP videos. There are many in my life and I have this fear of being stupid around them...which I usually am bc I suck at articulating my thoughts.
I did, I did. ISTP Female. Watched it 3 times so far to see if I can lose a bit of arrogance along the wY. :-)
One of my roommate is an Istp..he constantly tell me that I'm brilliant because he saw that I can solve some of tricky physics questions without studying it a lot,I just used my intuition to know how to answer it(I guess it because I used my estp subconscious, I'm an infj )..but yeah he does seems like he's always thinking that he is not that smart but I think he is absolutely brilliant(I also told his good traits that he might not be aware) and a very practical person because he makes money by working at a restaurant after completing high school but now he is busy and doesn't have much time to work..he told me that his family is not that rich so I told him to do freelancing(he never heard the term before) so I hope that he can utilize it to make money even though I never do it(to counter it I used other people experience and show him the possibility of making money online) because I'm still self teaching myself some other things like Computer programming despite having to complete my college assignment before the due date(welp it is because of my fe+ti and affiliative preference combo).
Everybody thinking "bad quality camera"
Like its still better than pewdiepie
Btw sub to pewds , unsub from t series
Am I wrong or would an ISTP - ESTJ relationship make a perfect storyline for a comedy? With the view I now have of these two types, it feels to me like two idiots being together and somehow trying to make sense of the world around them. While thinking that everyone around them are stupid without seeing how their own pride is contributing to a lot of their problems. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but that's now how I view these two personalities when they're together in a relationship.
Maybe
yes! this is so well put :'D
Maybe Shikamaru and Temari from Naruto is close?
Our long/short term visuospatial memory is fantastic, but i can't remember most dates. I have difficulties with names too, but I can remember my spatial position and the layout of the room I was in when the trade center towers were hit. I can also remember a handful of circa year 2 memories.
Memory part I understand I also make fun of myself having amnesia 🤣🤣🤣 but the reason I accept that is " if I can't remmber it, was it worth to remmber from the start?"
- unaware of intentions. At first, yes. But I’ve learned to recognize the patterns of human behavior so I can cut off my manipulators/abusers. I’ve been in a lot of short term abusive relationships and even after I’ve come to suspect they’re up to no good, I like to keep it going a bit longer and collect evidence to be sure, then I cut them off.
- I don’t trust myself with vocabulary words or facts, I always have to fact check myself
- if you want it done right, do it yourself. Yep.
- needs freedom and choices. Yep
- “stupid zone” people, yep
- easily guilted, yep
- I try to fix my illnesses on my own before seeing a doctor.
- I’m very stubborn.
TEACH ME PLZ🙏🙏ALL ISTPS NEED THATTT
@@crystalwaters8714 it might be something you have to experience, but maybe if you read about it to death, or observe scumbags doing it to others, maybe you can experience it through the others and learn that way.
Things to research- love bombing, trauma bonding, signs of narcissists or dark triad, signs of manipulation.
There are different kinds of narcissists (covert ones can be really sneaky). And pay attention to your gut instincts, keep tabs on what people say and do and if they match and if it’s consistent over time. I found with narcissists, once I return their sentiment of “I love you,” they change and become like a monster. They also use your vulnerabilities against you to put you down emotionally.
If you find yourself confused, step back and think about everything. Don’t trust your feelings. Trust your logic.
You can also ask a bunch of questions in the beginning, write down what they said. And ask them again in a different way a few weeks later and see if the answers match.
The ability to completely detach from emotion is a worthy tool -Istp female.
Yes, we are shallow. This is why tbh I thought I was infp lol 😂
It's so funny, when people ask me "How are you?", I have like a mini aneurysm! I usually say "I don't know how to answer that question because I'm like a hundred things at the same time 😀".
But if I actually can feel the person's genuine care for me, I definitely do try to stop and identify my actual feeling, which is really good to do.
Working customer service was torturous if I wasn't genuinely happy, because I could never get over the fact that I felt fraudulent answering that question with a blatant lie.
Hm, And just socializing in general is really hard if I'm not happy. I know that's just a place for growth, though! Like being okay with opening up about my feelings in the moment
Iv never had the urge to stalk a day in my life. I'm more of a "move on if you want and save us both the time" type of guy
ISTP fiancée building our house at the moment
Before my istp husband figured out that i am better with cash than a debit card, he used to hate my choices for spending, and would track my shopping days from a side-screen while he was at work, by having the bank statement on, live, in real-time. Every debit-card transaction popped up on his screen, so he could tell where i was at any given moment, and exactly what i was spending.... Now, he gives me an amount to use for us and an amount for me to have choice with (for myself and my needs)... As an infj i have learned a lot from him but there is still a lot i have to learn to work around! Yep - i see stubbornness. And, yep - i try to give him a lot of freedom, and not lay too much affliation-time on him. But i do feel lonely at times.
I’m an infp ( supposedly) and studying under an istp PhD student for my dissertation. It was going great when I was pretending to be smart at the beginning but my inconsistency and laziness has kinda ruined it 😅 Transitioning to ESTJ subconscious is just effort
Your quote of my big fat Greek wedding! It’s more something like “Men may be the head of the house but the women are the neck and the neck turns the head which ever way it wants”
Just had to say... I don’t know why that quote has stuck with me forever 😂
I'm sorry you had to work with such an unhealthy ISTP boss. I would NEVER sneak up on people so I can "spy" on what they're doing as I respect other people's space and privacy (golden rule). I totally relate to having a terrible memory though and am ALWAYS misplacing things so that comment about all the tools in the right place is correct. I'm also going to build out my own camper van, so I guess this is my version of building a house? :D
One thing I'd like to refute though, is your comment on why we have trouble asking for help. I understand that ISTPs can be prideful, but for myself personally, I more so don't ask for help because I either don't want to trouble/burden others or.... >>> and now I come up to 40:00 where you talk about the B word LMAO!! Ok I'm just going to stop here and *process*
For the record, I have no trouble going to the doctor, the hospital, the chiropractor, even the acupuncturist. I work out and go to yoga regularly. Health is a priority! But it's definitely funny to see how a lot of ISTPs understand that cars need regular maintenance but neglect to do so for their bodies.
Thanks for the great content!! Love your work!! Also CIA grandpa??
yeah he was a good man, I miss him
Wow this type sounds like a nightmare to be with. So many people are married to this type but I would hate it!! #infj
Taekwondoista im an istp and my best friends an infj and we get along really well. However, marriage would miserable lol
Wow! ISTP female here. I wish I had learned my type & why I think the way I do, many years ago.
You know me so well!
Are you watching me? Are you surveying me? What are you up too?🤔😂😂😂🤗😎👌
INTP here: my ex, an ISTP was a compulsive liar, constantly covering her tracks. Stubborn beyond comprehension. Pride like a reinforced concrete wall. Always blaming others because it’s never their fault-ever. They have Ti like us, but they are so different.
Okayyyyyy... did you *mean* to make it sound like you think most or all ISTPs are like your ex? x)
Probably an immature one
All ISTP are not like that
And you’re talking shit about all ISTPs because of your shitty ex, nice.
INTP with ISTP boss. This is Some good info!
lol some INTP overlap isn't there xD You can never be a genius or even above average intelligence.. thanks Te nemesis haha
“Jack of all trades, master of all”. Haha, made my day as an INTJ- thanks!