TwoSet Violin - Composer Tier List
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- čas přidán 10. 03. 2022
- For your consideration - my SECOND failed Editor-san audition!
This one's from 2021.
Again, your typical tier ranking list video presented through the prism of my poor editing skills 😁
If you happen to like my failures, feel free to sub! - Zábava
In honor of passing 100subs, I figured I'd share my second failed attempt to join the TwoSet video editing team - hope you have a laugh!
Wow, if I did not read the description and scroll all the way down to read the comments, I would not have figured out that this was for an audition and thought it was a real footage uploaded by them 👍🏻 How long do you wait for them to get in touch with you after you submit an application?
@@wassup139 That's quite the compliment, thank you!!
Well it was very different each time - I guess it depends on how solid your initial application is and how urgently they need a new editor 😕
Didn’t even notice this wasn’t from the official channel.
NO RACHMANINOFF?
Wow, thanks for uploading this! I'd heard rumours about this video, but it was just for editors. Yet it's still entertaining, since your editing literally just feels like their normal editors. Basically another free Twoset video.
Thanks, that's high praise!
Sadly their team didn't feel the same way but I figured I'd share it here now that enough time has passed - glad you enjoyed it!!
@@linglingsdisappointment rip. It'd be cool for you to be on the editing team
@@linglingsdisappointment I totally agree with OP, the editing is clearly done with passion by someone who lives and breathes twoset. Just because you didn't make the cut doesn't mean it isn't stellar :) you probably had some very stiff competition not to have been chosen, but they probably liked you regardless!
That's very kind, I hope you're right!
Means the world to me to hear that from fellow twosetters 🙏
bruh where tf is rachmaninoff, u got smetana and not rach??
They don't seem to know much outside of violin music and then their taste is questionable
Fully though this was a main channel video until I finished the video
This video confirms *everything* I have ever suspected about TwoSet's classical music listening habits. I feel so vindicated (and a bit sad 'cause they're missing out on some great composers and music genres). I'm really glad I found this and from now on, whenever anyone doubts my analysis of their classical music preferences, I can just point to this video instead of having to go in depth about my conclusions (like that they're unfamiliar with / not very fond of Renaissance and Baroque music - Bach being the exception for Baroque - and that the same mostly holds true for vocal music and opera).
maybe they just don’t like baroque or opera? personally for me operatic works are kinda grating to my ears - dont kill me
@@BreadBoi-0 tbh - and I know my take on this is a bit controversial, and I'm sorry this became so long - but imo they're a bit the same thing. Dislike very often just stems from a lack of familiarity. (And that isn't true for music but also for stuff like food etc.) Of course people have preferences, and there will always be some things you like more than others, and even a couple that you genuinely dislike, but most things, people can grow to like by exposure.
So TwoSet's dismissal of Baroque music (Bach doesn't count because his style was very different to most of his contemporaries) tells me that it's unlikely they've ever really tried to delve into that kind of music. And if you tell me you dislike opera, that tells me you most likely haven't grown up with that style of singing and haven't taken the time to let your ears familiarise themselves with it.
Which isn't necessarily a criticism by the way, I'm the exact same when it comes to composers after Mahler and Richard Strauss. I find the music hard to follow and hard to emotionally connect to and I haven't really made any effort yet to change that. There are a handful of pieces that are the exception, but on the whole, 20th century music isn't for me. But I wouldn't presume to say that I dislike it (or that I dislike, say, Prokofiev), because I simply haven't taken the time yet to even be able to dislike it. When I do take the time (and I will someday), I will be able to say which composers among them I think are good or bad quality, and which I like or dislike (which I don't think is remotely the same thing). And I might still like 20th century music the least out of all the eras after really delving into it - or I might love it better than any other. But I'm almost certain that either way, if I keep an open mind and keep listening, I'll come away with at least a good many composers whose music I enjoy, because it's unlikely that I dislike most of the music of an entire era of composing.
Indeed, they didn't even comment on Monteverdi...
@@Casutama I think you're 100% correct
Who should be at the top in your opinion??
I really wasn't expecting the single one they'd argue about to be Puccini.
"He could barely listen to himself."
This quote right here was definitely one of the greatest musical roasts ever! :)
Just have to add this right after hearing it: "Berlioz, Berli-listen." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'd resurrect Paganini just to see what new stuff he would compose to make violinist's lives hell
As a Guitarist, I forward this
Omg great background music choice! I especially love the Chopin Piano concerto 2 Larghetto haha well done :)
I thought I was watching an official two-set video. this is great!
I know the video is from a while ago but at 2:26 the captions mention Beethoven 5, when in fact Beethoven 9 is what Eddy is singing.
Mozart for me on top of the list
Same for me, after him Bach, Chopin and Beethoven but Mozart is incomparable, the purest music and emotion I've ever heard. Greets from germany
6:20 I see what you did there 😅
loved the piece selection for the background music btw
i've watched both of ur videos and honestly i think u perfectly capture their editing style a whole lot + u have great humour lol i don't understand why they haven't hired u yet 😂
That's sweet of you, thank you so much!!
Maybe one day I'll get lucky if I ever sum up the courage to apply again 😔
Super interesting! Thanks for posting.
Shostakovich 🙌❤
"Dude,its Puccini!"
-Brett Yang,2022
my jaw dropped on lizt
You should definitely listen too more Schumann especially to his symphonys
U should keep trying, this is great
Shouldn’t there be some tiers between “would listen to him 24/7” and “can listen to him if I have to”? How about those whose music I quite like and would often (or occasionally) choose to listen to but not to the level of 7/24 ?
Chopin and especially Liszt should be ranked higher
It's because they're violinists. Chopin's piano repertoire is one of the absolute best
Yes I know that
👀
Liszt and especially Chopin*
@@IAyala1010 especially Liszt and especially Chopin*
When They Rated Liszt They said I'm not a pianist
But when They rated Chopin They Became pianists
And Liszt Had a pure Virtuosity And His Hidden Music is truly A Gems.
Liszt is hit or miss even for pianists, especially if someone is not musically educated, they will hate Liszt for sure. While Chopin, it's very easy to listen to his music; even a toddler would be mesmerized.
@@m.moonsie because chopin makes good music and you have to delude yourself to enjoy most of liszt
I'm still waiting for the answer for the " who would you resurrect and marry " question. I reaaally wanna know!!
I listen to Wagner's music 30/8 and I'm trying to resurrect him. Why is he so low in this ranking? :(
Really enjoyed your take on composers.
I differ on rankings, there would be a higher level which only Vivaldi would be placed.
To say that his music sounds the same is a sign of not being familiar with his work.
I am so glad that his vocal work is coming to be performed.
The only composer that comes close is, of course, Mozart.
I listened to Grosse Fuge twice as many times as the composer himself.
Wagner was anti-semitic indeed but as for "supporting the Nazis"???? he died in 1883 and the Nazi party was founded 50 years after his death.
I would resurrect all of them😂
You forgot Bruckner... how...
I Love Hayden!!!!!!
what about rachmaninoff ?
I counted 45 composers…
theyre hiring new editors again!! are you planning on try again? 👀👀👀👀
I don't know, I don't think I can face being rejected from this dream job a third time
My resume's not much different since the last time I applied and I doubt I could do much better with the test footage than this so if that wasn't enough last year, I don't see why they would hire me now
@@linglingsdisappointment thats ok!! i can imagine the toll it takes 😭 its so weird because ur editing is so smooth.... but i hope one day it happens! keep on practicing!
@@linglingsdisappointment because you tried (practiced) 40times? Anyhow, if you do try again, wish u luck! And if you don’t, still love your editing! Thanks for the upload. :) keep practicing! :)
For me Grieg would go under listen to 24/7
Adequate, but Bruckner is very misplaced. How can Mahler and Bruckner be so differently rated?
People tend to prefer storytelling over architecture, and are drawn to extraverts.
Bruckner's music is like the work of an architect, while Mahler's follows a narrative, even outside of his song cycles. We happen to know that Bruckner wasn't at all interested in literature, he did not posess a single literary book at the time of his death. Mahler was fascinated by prose and poetry. They were also very different as individuals. Mahler was an intellectual and was highly extraverted. Bruckner was highly intelligent but not an intellectual, he didn't really pay attention to subjects other than music, faith, and drinking beer, and was a very shy and humble man. These properties reflect in their music.
okay since you know I have a question- how long was the original footage they gave you HAHAH
Not much longer actually, I cut out only about 2min or so
@@linglingsdisappointment *oh* I thought you'd have a lot of random rambling to cut out HAHAH
@@massivepanda8692 not really, seems they filmed it in a bit of a rush plus they've been doing this long enough, they know not to drag on for too long by now 😅
i would rank corelli higher, but vivaldi seems right, he made a lot of good peices, and a lot of the same pieces so they both cancel out.
So sad Brett doesn’t like opera… it’s my favorite form of music…needless to say my list looks quite different lol.
Which ones are your favorites ?
yippee
Hi shosty I see you everywhere on twoset
They made this is 2021 and didn't release it?
Not exactly - this is part of test footage they sent to applying video editors last year to see how they could put it together, never meant to be released on their own channel. I was one of the applicants and this is my personal edit of their raw footage!
Were is paganini?
Charles Ives!
Liszt rating is really bad
Kadet Zet
Chopin deserves to be higher than Mozart imo
The best composer ever is Gluck
I’m just disappointed that they put Paganini in the “Listen if i have to” category. Paganini is our lord, the devils violinist himself. He holds the Ling Ling stone, the most powerful object in the Paga-verse.
I mean he's nice to play but honestly who listens to his caprices for listening pleasure.
@@BreadBoi-0 That comment reminds me of my friend, a Liszt fan....
@@BreadBoi-0 me, I do
@@theyluvtwoset.13 I don't understand, Liszt has some nice pieces tho?
sarasate is not there
Bruckner should be tier S. His symphonies are the most deep, beautiful, touching and well developed, like Mahler's. It is far better than Tchaikovsky for instance. You should listen to all symphonies from 4 to 9. Are you serious musicians? C'mon!!! Tchaikovsky is a good melodist but he is an embarassing developer of ideas.
Top tier objectively belongs to Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. The rest is up for personal appreciation.
Todo gusto es subjetivo. Que la publicidad te quiera vender que son de primer nivel es diferente. El único que tiene su lugar asegurado en el primer nivel es Beethoven. El resto es apreciación personal. El legado de Beethoven es innegable y fue capaz de crear un periodo musical sin ayuda de nadie. Mientras que Mozart se parece bastante a Haydn y tomo bastante inspiración de él, solo que no le dan el crédito que merece. Lo mismo pasa. Con Bach quien tomo inspiración de Vivaldi, telemann y compañía. Sin ellos no hubiera logrado lo que logró. Pero como siempre los medios les quitaron el crédito. 🤷
@@liliaesperanza4436 I feel some takes from you, but imo in the topic music, you weight legacy too high, the music has to impress, and Haydn has nothing on Mozart and Vivaldi nothing on Bach, but again, only opinion, i find it interesting to talk about
@@thegoalfather9922 sé que no se parecen mucho. pero eso no cambia que Haydn es un pionero del clasismo y Vivaldi, Corelli y compañía son pioneros del barroco de los que bach , Mozart y muchos otros tomaron bastantes cosas. De hecho y hablando históricamente los verdaderos padres de la música son los italianos ya que ellos fueron quiénes inventaron casi todo. Los alemanes solo mejoraron lo existente a excepción de Beethoven y los de períodos posteriores que si inventaron nuevas cosas.
@@liliaesperanza4436 somehow yt doesnt translates your reply now, I dont understand spanish
@@liliaesperanza4436 I understood a bit i think, if yes, for sure you are right, they are Pioneers and without them before, there is no one after in this form, but Mozart and Bach perfected there form of music to the highest, so I rank them the highest :D but i barely understand spanish so maybe i didnt answer right
tf
I live in Israel and we don't play Wagner couse he supported the nazis
Do you think you
Have to be smart for composing good or that it's time or every child could start composing at a young age and be excellent at it at an old age. Also seems to me like little children do that.
what a trash list how is bruckner placed like that
They just have different opinions
@@sofiabosco7892 i love them but their opinion is wrong
@@classical7370 I don't really listen to Bruckner so I cannot judge. But Liszt is for me listen 24/7 so yeah
@@sofiabosco7892 It's not a question of opinion, it's a question of maturity. They are quite young, training to be violinists, so they are biased to composers dedicated to violin. It's no surprise they despise opera composers, rate low piano composers, know nothing about any composer earlier than Bach, etc. They'll grow up.
@@marcoantoniofalquete557 yes, the only non violin composer they put high up is Chopin
Chopin and lizst not top tier? Ewww
They have a different opinion than mine? Ewww
Chopin over Liszt is crazy, it’s really crazy of how overrated Chopin is and yeah Chopin fanboys, he is overrated
I'm def no Chopin fanboy but can you explain why he is overrated in your opinion?
Cause I feel that Chopin did eyactly what he wanted to do and express, and a lot of people feel the same, and that's what music is all about.
I still love him more
🤣🤣🤣 maybe you'll understand when you grow up