How Jack Kirby Left Marvel For DC And Created The Fourth World Pt. 2 (Behind The Panel) | SYFY WIRE
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How Jack Kirby Left Marvel For DC And Created The Fourth World Pt. 2 (Behind The Panel) | SYFY WIRE - Zábava
Thank you for reminding us all about Jack’s massive contribution to the comic book world. 🙏🙏🙏
Kirby was a pioneer in experimenting with creating proto-Photoshop images on splash pages, using a collage of photos tied together with traditional drawing methods in many of his works
I love the New Gods, and everything else Jack Kirby ever worked on. He was a creative genius.
The title where Jack hit the ground running at DC was Jimmy Olsen.
Stan lee and jack Kirby are the perfect duo, the effect they had in comics was crazy; setting the standard for sci-fi filled action in comics, it would have been an honour to have met both of them
This has almost nothing to do with the video about jack Kirbys fourth world
I love that Todd sits there fully decked out in Spawn merch. But my mind is not this easy to influence hahaha *buys three spawn hats*
Title should say how Jack was screwed by marvel and stan lee got all the credit.
Hail to the King, baby
Go Jack Kirby Go & King Of Comic Books 👍❤️😊😆😁
I have the Fourth World omnibus it takes time to read but it's some good stuff b
Watched the earlier, fantastic episode. I can't wait to read the Fourth World stuff
incredible two parter thanks
Great video on a great man! Well done!
well done. thanks for doing this
10.07 mentions creative freedom yet unfortunately shows a panel which DC edited at the time, they would have another artist drawn over the face of Superman as they did not like the way he depicted the character. Not a bad vid but a bit of a fluff piece, also I doubt he would have liked that terrible Furries mini
Strange brain parts did a much better video on the subject, detailed, balanced & respectful
60's Marvel writing was too schlocky for me. I'm glad that Kirby finally cut loose and showed himself to not only be one of the best artists at Marvel, but also one of the best writers.
I would've loved to see Kirby, Ditko, and Everett go full Image, creating their own publishing company and leaving Stan to draw his writing.
@Rob Y. I can respect Stan, but sometimes his purple prose dialog was irritating especially his Silver Surfer series with the Surfer being given a less than compelling origin story and a lost love and constant unending platitudes,
I myself wish that an Image option for self publishing would have been an option for Kirby and other artists back then and that he could have actually completed The Fourth World Saga along with other works.
Stan’s writing hasn’t aged too well if you ask me lol
@@skatemo100 Compare his to Silver Age DC (especially Flash and Doom Patrol), and it was dismal. His writing aged worse than his follicles.
The artwork and the writing were created by the artists like Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko.
The "Marvel Method" confirms this statement.
Stsn Lee just edited the dialogs but he did not write.
Alan Moore said Stan Lee only fancy Jack Kirby's dialogs.
Jack (the king) kirby
Awesome!!!
“There are gods, and Jack Kirby is about 2 inches to the left of those guys”
time is the best judge!
Hahahahah! Completely false
I Liked Jack Kirby's "Demon" Jason Blood.
I appreciated the point being made about how George Lucas borrowed (ripped off) Kirby's ideas.
Warner/DC's live-action films relied heavily on Jack Kirby's 4th world concepts. Now THAT is money in the bank. I hope the Kirby family gets to benefit from them. Jack Kirby IS King!
Marvel Comics had many characters that were more or less variations on DC characters (bestowing a life into them all their own). So I find it interesting that once Marvel and Stan Lee were presented with the original vision of Jack's Fourth World, they passed. Instead DC comics took Jack in, and in doing so continued their own legacy as being the home of the quintessential characters and stories that they are known for. It was destined to be!
I love kirby
I wish todd mcfarlane did a project at Marvel or DC(preferably) again just a mini series I know he just likes the freedom he has with his own company, but he could really do something cool in partnership with either of those and It would sell like hot cakes
Sad to be informed this channel is not available in my country. Huh? I live in Canada. You could hit me with a rock . Whats up with that?
DC is more mature 👍🏼
Darkseid is wasted as a JL villain.
I Cannot Wait For The New Gods Movie I hope they put Jack Kirby’s love into that movie👍❤️😊😆😁❤️
I cannot wait for The Eternals movie.
I don't think the New Gods will actually get made, sadly.
Angel Feliciano it will but unfortunately it will be trash bc Ava duvernay is directing it
Let’s hope the new gods movie is canned by WB and they bring on better talent to honor Kirby’s vision.
To think Darkseid and the New Gods could've been Marvel.
thanos vs darkside
Fourtunately Jim Starlin is a big fan of Jack Kirby.
So Jim Starlin based Thanos on Metron and Darkseid.
Two characters created by the King of Comics.
@@radekvasicek8346 There probably wouldn't have been a Thanos if Darkseid was at Marvel. Jim Starlin heavily based Thanos on Metron and Darkseid, probably because he couldn't use them while at Marvel. At most, maybe he'd have a chance of using Darkseid in his own story, assuming Marvel like DC would likely not let Kirby finish the Fourth World Saga on his own terms.
@@radekvasicek8346 no that wouldn’t have happened
@@Atrus233 there wouldn’t have been Darkseid or new gods at all. I don’t understand where people get that myth that Jack Kirby was creating Darkseid for marvel. The new gods and Darkseid would never have existed.
why was this reuploaded?
Wtf are you talking about?
Do you know what "Part 2" means?
Sheesh!
Read the title !
Toys
Fucking loser, don’t interject yourself if you’re unaware of anything you’re talking about.
Jack Kirby > Stan Lee
Long live the King !
It doesn't need to be a competition
@@elpadrino1128 you don't know how Stan Lee treated Jack Kirby, do you. Any comic that was made in the most part by Jack Kirby wasn't Jack Kirby's creation, it was Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's creation, but when Stan Lee made most of the work, it was just Stan Lee's creation.
@@elpadrino1128 Don't worry !
There is no competition.
Stan Lee couldn't even compete with the King of Comics.
Jack Kirby sucked without Stan Lee. His dialogue was excruciating. He was immensely talented but lacked the maturity to harness it successfully without a guiding hand such as Joe Simon or Stan Lee. Btw, Royer was not a great inker. His main asset, besides speed, was being geographically close to Jack, another silly decision Kirby insisted on, though there are any number of better inkers that would have loved to work with Jack (Wally Wood being one of them).
Toys Bottom line, without both of them, we wouldn’t be in this superhero renaissance we are in now
EDIT that Ava Duvernay and Tom King out of this and it will be perfect.
not this director.. she one trick pony.
dpyxl Clearly you haven’t seen all of her work
I think “The Demon” is as underrated as The Fourth World are overrated.
you did it very wrong interviewing a colored hair woman
DC stories would be trash without Jack Kirby's input!!
@Brick Bazooka Your "dick riding" assumption is wrong. I like both equally. Nice try tho👎🏾
@Brick Bazooka DC was riding the coattails of the 1966 Batman series at the same time Lee and Kirby and Ditko and Steranko were changing the face of comics over at Marvel, 'Camp' was the main DC formula at this time in titles like 'The Inferior Five' and 'Brother Power the Geek',
It was in the early seventies when DC changed their direction what with new talent like O'Neil and Adams, Wein and Wrightsen and others in order to compete with Marvel in addition to their announcement that "Kirby is Coming!" at that time.
Not that DC didn't have their own top roster of creators in the Golden and early Silver Age ranging from Infantino to Kubert and Kane among many others.
Kirby went back and forth between Marvel and DC over the years , money and law suits were always the reasons . Kirby was allowed to flourish at Marvel but after several years he noticed that he was not getting the money he felt he earned . At DC he was given far more freedom ( except on Superman's face ) and he flopped . Back to Marvel then . A few years after Kirby left DC the New Gods were brought back and Kirby was not credited as their creator . Jack was always better off at Marvel than at DC .