Amazing how people comment on vehicles they never drove! I have a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and I'm loving it. Coming from a 2016 JKU Rubicon and I'm not disappointed. The Rubicon obviously is better off-road but I like the GC much better as a whole package. My 2016 RR Sport was horrible off-road because of the wheels and tires (and the car looks weird with off-road tires), the Rubicon had horrible on road manners and the GC Trailhawk is a perfect mix of both. Talking from experience. Not like most here that don't.
@@mohsinmmir1 hi bro. I also bought v8 trailhawk. Did you have any problems with your jeep?engine,transmission,airbags,suspension? Or maybe some electric glitches? Thank you so much!!
@@mohsinmmir1 wow great awesome!! Man did you install or add some mods to your trailhawk,some off-road goodies or like engine chip upgrade for extra horsepower etc? Thank you
I drove and tested so many of these over the last 3 months. Ended up with the 5.7L GC trailhawk. The extra balls you get jumping from V6 to V8 is crazy. And the luxury group makes this a beautiful daily driver and very capable off roader. We've gotten over 8 inches of snow in the last 7 days and I've powered through everything with no issues. Very intelligent on ice as well.
Kudos to the cameraman; putting in work in the background there. Dude looks ready for a job interview, and yet he’s running in the mud to get the right shot.
The Cherokee has an actual transfer case for 4wd low also. Not just a fake programming thing. It is also the only trailhawk that has an actual mechanical rear locker.
The first car I "purchased" (aka leased) on my own after college was a 2015 cherokee latitude. Loved it at first but overtime got a little sick of the aesthetics. Other than that it drove great and was very capable in the snow. I then changed over to a BMW X1. Now I'm back in a 2021 JLU Sahara and love it. Different models will attract people for different reasons, but overall I feel you can't go wrong with Jeep!
My wife has a 2018 Yellow Renegade Sport. It has a 2' lift and oversized Toyo Open Country A/T tires. It has done the Dicky Bell trail at Uwharrie without needing help. It goes everywhere My JK goes and keeps up. It does not have rock mode but if you put it in manual mode and 1st gear it climes anything. Great on trails and sand!
@@ElmotypeSwag if you want great gas mileage and a nimble 4x4 and are willing to deal with getting the ribbing for having a "Baby Wrangler" go for the Renegade, otherwise get the Cherokee.
5:33 if it's a jeep, someone somewhere will lift it. It was said the Cherokee could not be lifted, and they made a lift kit for it. Daystar currently makes a lift for the Renegade.
15:32 A uni-body is going to more structural rigidity vs a frame on body. The advantage of the frame on body IS that it allows more vehicle flex to match changing terrain.
Ye but 90 or 95% of my time i spend on pavements so when i take jeep gc trailhawk on off-road,i just accept that moment and stiff suspension in off road 2 mode(raised all the way up)
It would be the one I’d buy if it were your money. I had the opportunity to drive some rough Nevada outback two-track in a Renegade just yesterday and I got the bug. Budget off roading , I was impressed.
Just watched the Trail Rated video, very informative. I do find it ironic though that part of being Trail rated are things that are required "to get you home", full size spare, skid plates, tow hooks.....but at least with the Renegade (I have a 2016), when the check engine light comes on, you can't use any of the available 4WD options. The AWD still works but you can't switch into lock or use any of the modes. I guess 4WD isn't needed to "get you home" ,
I spent a week driving to and on the trails in Death Valley in a Jeep Renegade Trail-hawk. The 4-banger suffers from NVH problems. The seats are uncomfortable after a few hours and the narrow body setting up high felt a little tippy on the road. The 9-speed auto is nerve-racking. However, it did transverse the moderate 4wd trails very well on it's 28" tires, We drove the Cherokee Trail-hawk at a dealer and we were more impressed, but it seemed built for luxury rather then Jeeping. After this experience, we contacted Davis motorsports and placed a deposit on a fully restored 1999 Cherokee XJ!
So I just got my GC trailhawk and I am loving it. Perfect onroad manners and very good offroad. I was going for the JL but it wasn't that pleasant to drive on the road.
Great video once again. I really like when you guys do these off road comparisons. Do you think you'll ever do a video comparing the new raptor and power wagon together?
If it were me and my money I would get the Renegade trail hawk because I would be doing very light and minor off-roading and majority of on road driving. That in combination with the fuel economy numbers would make the Renegade my pick of choice
NormileGuy - well said. I like the trail hawks for appearance much more than ability. I like the Renegade as well but need more towing. Hope all goes well for you.
The Grand Cherokee still almost scraped the dirt. Let's be honest...none of those 3 cars are really designed for serious offroad driving. The Wrangler is much better equipped for it. The Renegade is a masculine Fiat, the Cherokee is just a puddle jumper, and the Grand Cherokee is just a luxurious plane-jane SUV with Jeep branding. All three of these could become capable offroad vehicles with an aftermarket lift and good tires, but you're lying to yourself if you drive a stock one and think you're joining the offroad club up in the mountains. And for the record, I drive a 2014 Cherokee. It's a great little crossover. Drives great in the snow. But I drive it on pavement. I'm not delusional enough to believe I should be climbing mountains.
I know you did a video with the old wrangler vs the new, do one with the old cherokee (xj) vs the new! I'd love to see the XJ run circles around the new cherokee
Have to agree with Roman. Between the three the Grand Cherokee is the one to have. That said, I have seen a Renegade that was fitted with much more aggressive tires go some really surprising places. Both the Renegade and Cherokee respond very noticeably to better rubber.
It sounds like you really like the Grand Cherokee because it's taller, but that Cherokee is superior off-road to the Grand Cherokee. Especially when you need a locker instead of a limited slip that squishes itself for a little bit more slip control.
When he concludes going for the Grand Cherokee was any thought put into the price? I can buy a Cherokee Trailhawk for about $18k less than a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, that's enough of a saving to buy a pretty nice dedicated off road vehicle in addition to the Cherokee. I love the Grand Cherokee, but would be concerned about the air suspension in the Trailhawk model.
I just bought a 18 GC Trail Hawk I haven't tried it off road yet! It's like following in love the first time. I have owned in the past a Liberty and a 14 GC , i am defently a confermed Jeepster.
Although I like the V8 of the GC, I personally much prefer the size of the Cherokee and the fact that it has a bigger engine and lockers, unlike the renegade.
We Lemon Law'd a 2014 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. The transmission was not part of the process. The 9spd was not great. Very happy to leave it at the dealership.
Im 26, just getting into it and for an entry level Jeep I would choose the Renegade. Its a perfect middle ground I think and you can do a lot of things to add to the performance. Mine does the trick on a budget
Thanks for the comment but the other comments are absolutely correct. This is a mashup review of the Jeep Trailhawk models. The most off-road worthy Wrangler is a Rubicon. There is no Wrangler Trailhawk.
I bought a Renegade because I don't do much off-roading, but I do a lot of driving in the snow! Most places measure it in inches- Western New Yorkers- by feet!
Admittedly I have limited experience, but from what I have of the Grand Cherokee, I found the air suspension being raised just took away the wheel travel so the Limited I've also driven fairly extensively was better in terms of articulation and ride. The air suspension gives the extra height, but is detrimental in other ways.
It's the air suspension giving you more height, but in my experience it removes wheel travel and makes the suspension harder. IMO if you wanted to off road in a Grand Cherokee a model with conventional springs and a lift will work better.
I love the videos and shows these guys offer us. I would never purchase a Chrysler/Fiat product. These companies slap a jeep tag and grill on vehicles and call them "jeeps." Don't be fooled by the jeep commercials, tags, "trail rated" nonsense.
You mention that only the Grand Cherokee has a transfer case, but, the Cherokee Trailhawk has a 2 speed transfer case as well (or rather 2, 2 speed reduction units that function the same) and it has a much better crawl ratio that the GC with much better wheel torque. It looks like you didn't use it though.
He said the Grand Cherokee was the only one with a "traditional" transfer case so he wasn't wrong. Also using something like 4-low wasn't necessary on that course
Sean Taylor I thought about that, but then he kept banging on about how its better to be going slower and how low range makes the obstacles easier. I know he knows the KL cherokee has true low range (at least im pretty sure he knows) but it doesn't seem to be a big deal there (where its unique in the segment) where it is in the traditional Grand Cherokee.
These stated crawl ratios can be misleading. The actual application ends up being different from what one expects. The GC is 44:1 or better, where as the TH is what, 56:1? I'd have to look up actual numbers. I'm not buying it though. It's the way they state them that equates to the confusion. They multiply different numbers, not following traditional methods. It used to be you'd get 2.72:1 crawl ratio or somesuch, in the transfer case, and people went by that. Now, for the sake of bigger numbers, they multiply that number in order to get something more impressive sounding. Also, practical application and engine torque curve/transmission make a difference. A Grand Cherokee will walk over terrain in 2wd that a Cherokee will need to be in 4wd to struggle over. It's just the reality of things. For comparison, my 11-year-old 4runner could run a course like the one in this video while in 2wd. The plusher and more street-comfortable vehicles become, the less off-road they seem to be.
The only Jeep I really like is the wrangler. My friend had a 98’ grand Cherokee and it was not good off-road, the second it hit sand the truck would burry itself. And it had all kinds of problems, mostly electrical and transmission problem. I think the newer gc is way better. I just hope it stays reliable when it’s 20+ years old and has been banged up with 4-5+ owners and 200k miles.
I love my 4 x 4 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk.v6 . The only problem I saw on trails was that it would hit rear bottom out and take off back rear end plastic trim parts off Vehicle. My tires are new Firestone Dullers All Radial All Terrain 17" best tires I ever owned.
The 2016 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk SUV has a recurring power seat problem that prevents the use of the 8-way and lumbar functions. The problem causes the driver seat to freeze and lock into a position on the seat floor tracks. This could create a serious problem in the event of an emergency. The dealer service department is clueless on fixing the problem.
Damn all 3 Jeeps r soo nice. I wouldn't mind any one of them. But the Grand Cherokee is def my fav. Lux and off road Best of both worlds. Still think it needs more hp n torque though ...
Love watching this videos as a jeep girl I used to have a couple grand Cherokees they were okay I needed something with higher ground clearance that's why I trade in my grand Cherokee for the wrangler unlimited
There are actually a LOT of skidplates.. 100lbs worth... under the Cherokee trailhawk and probably that much under all of the trailhawks. If jeep didn't build the wrangler, the Cherokee Trailhawk, especially with a 2-inch lift would be one of the most capable off-road vehicles on the planet... a true story...
The Cherokee's an odd one, very unusual for a car to have a better departure than approach angle, unless you're talking about a sports car. And it's a front drive platform? The angles make a bit more sense I suppose, but seems like an odd choice to use a front drive platform if you're going to just mount an all wheel drive system in every example. I've always been interested in a comparison between a grand Cherokee and the most comparable Land Rover. Maybe the RR sport?
I think the Jeep Cherokee would be better if I had another inch of ground clearance. I do like that has rear lockers all terrain tires. they all seem good offer it is for most people and what they're going to do with them
Just saw European Renegades might be having an issue with rear wheels leaving the ground under hard braking. The smaller liter engine is having the most issues. You guys need to test to see if that happens on the U.S. models. I mean, they are supposed to be the same right?
You'll be very pleased unless you are a rock crawler with a huge lift and need the solid axles. We had a 97 Cherokee for many years it was a brilliant vehicle that refused to die. However having recently moved to a 2021 Cherokee Trailhawk V6 the differences in road refinement, power, ride everything is light years different.
UK 🇬🇧 normally aspirated 2.0 litre renegade 170 bhp 0 to 60 is 8.5 seconds top is more closer to 130mph ,auto . Mpg average of 38 ... but normally I'm seeing 43+ ... so it's small .. but its more than capable in many ways .
I took my GC offroad on stuff much tougher than this and it did very well, but it also has the V8. I'm also in the market for rock rails now since my rocker panels have some battle damage.
take it off roading all the time. If city folk buy it then yeah mall crawler, but if country boy's get their hand on it, nothing but off road and farm work. (I have both SRT GC and Trailhawk GC use both for off road and work)
I wonder how many ppl lose sleep over how ppl use their vehicles... If i wanna buy a spaceship to “mallcrawl” im buying a spaceship... All my money, none of your business...
Whats your point here? I have a flawless 2010 WK with 20k miles. Why would i bring it off road? When i have the itch to spin some tires "off road" i take my 04 WJ with 157k on it.
hey I love ur guys Channels. u guys put out some of the best videos on CZcams...i watch almost everyday my cavities is the purpose stuff an the towing an diesel stuff I have 2 things I'd like to say 1. you guys should do a ultimate off road series or video ah do a wrangler an power wagon an maybe a few more. run them sick but put the Anne set of tires on them all ( the stock sizes of each of coarse) an make sure it isn't a mild all pick something that is aggressive so they can really be tested on the manufacturers off road capabilities an my second thing is if love to see some diesels off-road a lot of ppl do four-wheel there hd"s.. thank u guys for the awesome videos an keep it up
Amazing how people comment on vehicles they never drove!
I have a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and I'm loving it. Coming from a 2016 JKU Rubicon and I'm not disappointed.
The Rubicon obviously is better off-road but I like the GC much better as a whole package.
My 2016 RR Sport was horrible off-road because of the wheels and tires (and the car looks weird with off-road tires), the Rubicon had horrible on road manners and the GC Trailhawk is a perfect mix of both.
Talking from experience. Not like most here that don't.
I agree. I also purchased a V8 GC Trailhawk 2017 and absolutely love it.
I just picked up my 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and love it. I actually went for the EcoDiesel but ended up loving the Pentastar.
@@mohsinmmir1 hi bro. I also bought v8 trailhawk. Did you have any problems with your jeep?engine,transmission,airbags,suspension? Or maybe some electric glitches? Thank you so much!!
@@volodymyrprosov6134 no never. I have taken it offroad almost every weekend
@@mohsinmmir1 wow great awesome!!
Man did you install or add some mods to your trailhawk,some off-road goodies or like engine chip upgrade for extra horsepower etc? Thank you
I drove and tested so many of these over the last 3 months. Ended up with the 5.7L GC trailhawk. The extra balls you get jumping from V6 to V8 is crazy. And the luxury group makes this a beautiful daily driver and very capable off roader. We've gotten over 8 inches of snow in the last 7 days and I've powered through everything with no issues. Very intelligent on ice as well.
Kudos to the cameraman; putting in work in the background there. Dude looks ready for a job interview, and yet he’s running in the mud to get the right shot.
The Cherokee has an actual transfer case for 4wd low also. Not just a fake programming thing. It is also the only trailhawk that has an actual mechanical rear locker.
The Cherokee or grand Cherokee?
@@ethanrod7968 the Cherokee.
The first car I "purchased" (aka leased) on my own after college was a 2015 cherokee latitude. Loved it at first but overtime got a little sick of the aesthetics. Other than that it drove great and was very capable in the snow. I then changed over to a BMW X1. Now I'm back in a 2021 JLU Sahara and love it. Different models will attract people for different reasons, but overall I feel you can't go wrong with Jeep!
My wife has a 2018 Yellow Renegade Sport. It has a 2' lift and oversized Toyo Open Country A/T tires. It has done the Dicky Bell trail at Uwharrie without needing help. It goes everywhere My JK goes and keeps up. It does not have rock mode but if you put it in manual mode and 1st gear it climes anything. Great on trails and sand!
Roman: “the renegade isn’t gonna get lifted” me: *drives a two inch lifted renegade with tons of offroad mods*
confettihunterminus1 what kind of mods? Right now I’m between a Renegade Trailhawk and a Cherokee Trailhawk.
That was stock
@@ElmotypeSwag if you want great gas mileage and a nimble 4x4 and are willing to deal with getting the ribbing for having a "Baby Wrangler" go for the Renegade, otherwise get the Cherokee.
Murphy my Cherokee trail hawk trumps the renegade, ur lookin at 271hp for the Cherokee and like 120-160 depressing horsepower for a renegade
@@AmericanFry well 180 but sure.
5:33 if it's a jeep, someone somewhere will lift it. It was said the Cherokee could not be lifted, and they made a lift kit for it. Daystar currently makes a lift for the Renegade.
We put a 2' lift on my wifes Renegade Sport 4x4. It has done everything my Wrangler has done. She is racking up the Jeep badge of Honor badges.
15:32 A uni-body is going to more structural rigidity vs a frame on body. The advantage of the frame on body IS that it allows more vehicle flex to match changing terrain.
Ye but 90 or 95% of my time i spend on pavements so when i take jeep gc trailhawk on off-road,i just accept that moment and stiff suspension in off road 2 mode(raised all the way up)
It would be the one I’d buy if it were your money. I had the opportunity to drive some rough Nevada outback two-track in a Renegade just yesterday and I got the bug. Budget off roading , I was impressed.
Just watched the Trail Rated video, very informative.
I do find it ironic though that part of being Trail rated are things that are required "to get you home", full size spare, skid plates, tow hooks.....but at least with the Renegade (I have a 2016), when the check engine light comes on, you can't use any of the available 4WD options. The AWD still works but you can't switch into lock or use any of the modes.
I guess 4WD isn't needed to "get you home" ,
I spent a week driving to and on the trails in Death Valley in a Jeep Renegade Trail-hawk. The 4-banger suffers from NVH problems. The seats are uncomfortable after a few hours and the narrow body setting up high felt a little tippy on the road. The 9-speed auto is nerve-racking. However, it did transverse the moderate 4wd trails very well on it's 28" tires, We drove the Cherokee Trail-hawk at a dealer and we were more impressed, but it seemed built for luxury rather then Jeeping. After this experience, we contacted Davis motorsports and placed a deposit on a fully restored 1999 Cherokee XJ!
So I just got my GC trailhawk and I am loving it. Perfect onroad manners and very good offroad. I was going for the JL but it wasn't that pleasant to drive on the road.
When the 2017 TRD Pro 4runner comes available it would be great to see you guys compare it to the 2017 grand cherokee Trailhawk. Thanks
Grand Cherokee is the only Chrysler product I like
CAN YOU REALLY DRIVE THAT CHALLENGER GT THAT IS AWD IN THE SNOW?
Tony Yayo.. my dads not too far off in that way either.. although he’s also quite fond of the cherokee does
The truck division period is the only thing worth it the 300/charger looks good on the outside but cheaply put together on the inside
What about Cherokee?
I love all FCA products.
Great video once again. I really like when you guys do these off road comparisons. Do you think you'll ever do a video comparing the new raptor and power wagon together?
+dylan ginther You bet! Heck yea on the Raptor vs. Power Wagon.
Yes, that video is certainly on our radar and we will do it.
+dylan ginther the is wrong with u at this point in time the raptor and powerwagon are certainly in two almost completely different classes
+The Fast Lane Car, it'll be mushy mashup tho
the compass has a trailhawk version also... im sad i didn't see that..
Love all 3 of them. Of course, to me the WK2 takes the number one spot.
If it were me and my money I would get the Renegade trail hawk because I would be doing very light and minor off-roading and majority of on road driving. That in combination with the fuel economy numbers would make the Renegade my pick of choice
You don't buy a jeep for gas mileage,
NormileGuy smiles per gallon is what matters
NormileGuy - well said. I like the trail hawks for appearance much more than ability. I like the Renegade as well but need more towing. Hope all goes well for you.
Torn between all 3 of these including a wrangler....this is your best mashup review video yet. Great job!
The Grand Cherokee still almost scraped the dirt. Let's be honest...none of those 3 cars are really designed for serious offroad driving. The Wrangler is much better equipped for it. The Renegade is a masculine Fiat, the Cherokee is just a puddle jumper, and the Grand Cherokee is just a luxurious plane-jane SUV with Jeep branding. All three of these could become capable offroad vehicles with an aftermarket lift and good tires, but you're lying to yourself if you drive a stock one and think you're joining the offroad club up in the mountains.
And for the record, I drive a 2014 Cherokee. It's a great little crossover. Drives great in the snow. But I drive it on pavement. I'm not delusional enough to believe I should be climbing mountains.
I know you did a video with the old wrangler vs the new, do one with the old cherokee (xj) vs the new! I'd love to see the XJ run circles around the new cherokee
To tell the truth, the most fun comes with the most challenge for me, so I would go with the Renegade.
If I could get a Wrangler TJ in that shade of yellow, I would be so happy.
Have to agree with Roman. Between the three the Grand Cherokee is the one to have. That said, I have seen a Renegade that was fitted with much more aggressive tires go some really surprising places. Both the Renegade and Cherokee respond very noticeably to better rubber.
It sounds like you really like the Grand Cherokee because it's taller, but that Cherokee is superior off-road to the Grand Cherokee. Especially when you need a locker instead of a limited slip that squishes itself for a little bit more slip control.
First like! Awesome jeeps but still prefer a base model 2 door wrangler
Better off road, but for overlanding with a lot of on-road and a need for space and comfort GC is much better IMHO.
This track was piece of cake. Even 2wd will go through with ease
Grand cherokee trailhawk vs 4runner trail please
I'd love to see this on the Goldmine Hill 2.0
When he concludes going for the Grand Cherokee was any thought put into the price? I can buy a Cherokee Trailhawk for about $18k less than a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, that's enough of a saving to buy a pretty nice dedicated off road vehicle in addition to the Cherokee. I love the Grand Cherokee, but would be concerned about the air suspension in the Trailhawk model.
This is the kind of video that makes me glad I watch this channel. I LOVE seeing you guys mashup off road vehicles, especially Jeeps!
MultiPurposeReviewer This is not really mashing up off road vehicles. This trail is pretty weak.
I like the grand Cherokee but for the price I'd probably take a 4runner. Thanks for the great videos boys.
for that price you can get a rubi with some extras
Great video!I'm impressed by the renegade, it seems to be the most fun of all three.
I just bought a 18 GC Trail Hawk I haven't tried it off road yet! It's like following in love the first time. I have owned in the past a Liberty and a 14 GC , i am defently a confermed Jeepster.
Although I like the V8 of the GC, I personally much prefer the size of the Cherokee and the fact that it has a bigger engine and lockers, unlike the renegade.
We Lemon Law'd a 2014 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. The transmission was not part of the process. The 9spd was not great. Very happy to leave it at the dealership.
so if the transmission wasn't the issue why did you lemon law it?
Wrong Jeep GC has brilliant 8spd ZF box so you must be confusing with smaller Cherokee model.
He said Cherokee NOT Grand Cherokee
Im 26, just getting into it and for an entry level Jeep I would choose the Renegade. Its a perfect middle ground I think and you can do a lot of things to add to the performance. Mine does the trick on a budget
A review of off road capabilities on what amounts to little dirt roads. How about some real obstacles?
Talking about the ultimate Jeep off roader and you didn't mention the Wrangler??
no they're talking about a mashup of trailhawk trims, which the wrangler does not have.
Thanks for the comment but the other comments are absolutely correct. This is a mashup review of the Jeep Trailhawk models. The most off-road worthy Wrangler is a Rubicon. There is no Wrangler Trailhawk.
Can you guys make a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk Vs 4Runner TRD PRO? Try to put the same tires so it'd more balanced. Keep the great videos coming.
Sure thing, buddy. I'll get right on that.
Carlos Gómez The 4Runner TRD Pro is in a whole other league the jeep. There's no comparison.
Jeep are one of the best cars in the world, period.
I hope so I just bought one... Lol
@@rosscantsidis9382 what do yo got?
99 xj sport still killin it 🖒
Cherokee and Renegade trail hawk have the exact same ground clearance 8.7.....
i like how they finally put the gas caps on the driver side....
I bought a Renegade because I don't do much off-roading, but I do a lot of driving in the snow! Most places measure it in inches- Western New Yorkers- by feet!
All these Jeep videos got me like man I need a new Jeep 👀
Admittedly I have limited experience, but from what I have of the Grand Cherokee, I found the air suspension being raised just took away the wheel travel so the Limited I've also driven fairly extensively was better in terms of articulation and ride. The air suspension gives the extra height, but is detrimental in other ways.
Great video guys. Good music choice as well. Roman just gave us the facts in a laid back way. A click well spent.
Technically, Grand Cherokee has least approach or descent angle of all of them. It simply has higher ride height, so you won't hit such small ditch.
It's the air suspension giving you more height, but in my experience it removes wheel travel and makes the suspension harder. IMO if you wanted to off road in a Grand Cherokee a model with conventional springs and a lift will work better.
I love the videos and shows these guys offer us. I would never purchase a Chrysler/Fiat product. These companies slap a jeep tag and grill on vehicles and call them "jeeps." Don't be fooled by the jeep commercials, tags, "trail rated" nonsense.
but how does it handle snow or ice??? in mountainous regions?
You mention that only the Grand Cherokee has a transfer case, but, the Cherokee Trailhawk has a 2 speed transfer case as well (or rather 2, 2 speed reduction units that function the same) and it has a much better crawl ratio that the GC with much better wheel torque. It looks like you didn't use it though.
He said the Grand Cherokee was the only one with a "traditional" transfer case so he wasn't wrong. Also using something like 4-low wasn't necessary on that course
Sean Taylor I thought about that, but then he kept banging on about how its better to be going slower and how low range makes the obstacles easier. I know he knows the KL cherokee has true low range (at least im pretty sure he knows) but it doesn't seem to be a big deal there (where its unique in the segment) where it is in the traditional Grand Cherokee.
Patrick Rich keep in mind everyone on the TFL crew seem to be more in the old school camp so they tend to gravitate to what they know
Sean Taylor I get that...but...they spend a lot more time at press events, with engineers and actual vehicles than I do so they ought to know
These stated crawl ratios can be misleading. The actual application ends up being different from what one expects. The GC is 44:1 or better, where as the TH is what, 56:1? I'd have to look up actual numbers. I'm not buying it though. It's the way they state them that equates to the confusion. They multiply different numbers, not following traditional methods. It used to be you'd get 2.72:1 crawl ratio or somesuch, in the transfer case, and people went by that. Now, for the sake of bigger numbers, they multiply that number in order to get something more impressive sounding. Also, practical application and engine torque curve/transmission make a difference. A Grand Cherokee will walk over terrain in 2wd that a Cherokee will need to be in 4wd to struggle over. It's just the reality of things. For comparison, my 11-year-old 4runner could run a course like the one in this video while in 2wd. The plusher and more street-comfortable vehicles become, the less off-road they seem to be.
Cherokee vs grand Cherokee? What’s the diff?
the one that I would buy would be a commanche or a J10
The only Jeep I really like is the wrangler. My friend had a 98’ grand Cherokee and it was not good off-road, the second it hit sand the truck would burry itself. And it had all kinds of problems, mostly electrical and transmission problem. I think the newer gc is way better. I just hope it stays reliable when it’s 20+ years old and has been banged up with 4-5+ owners and 200k miles.
Jeep Cherokee is the only trailhawk with rear locker
I love my 4 x 4 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk.v6 . The only problem I saw on trails was that it would hit rear bottom out and take off back rear end plastic trim parts off Vehicle. My tires are new Firestone Dullers All Radial All Terrain 17" best tires I ever owned.
It always cracks me up that he calls the spec sheet "the maroney" lmao 🤣
The 2016 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk SUV has a recurring
power seat problem that prevents the use of the 8-way and lumbar functions. The
problem causes the driver seat to freeze and lock into a position on the seat
floor tracks. This could create a serious
problem in the event of an emergency. The dealer service department is
clueless on fixing the problem.
Prob with all the tech and air suspension is that it will cost u an arm and a leg to replace.....
grand cherokee, hemi 5,7 i have one , great great great, i love it
Really would like this if we could get a turbo on the 4X4. A 1.6l would do wonderfully with the low end torque.
Damn all 3 Jeeps r soo nice. I wouldn't mind any one of them. But the Grand Cherokee is def my fav. Lux and off road Best of both worlds. Still think it needs more hp n torque though ...
Cool comparison TFL! Jeep up the great work!
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Love watching this videos as a jeep girl I used to have a couple grand Cherokees they were okay I needed something with higher ground clearance that's why I trade in my grand Cherokee for the wrangler unlimited
There are actually a LOT of skidplates.. 100lbs worth... under the Cherokee trailhawk and probably that much under all of the trailhawks. If jeep didn't build the wrangler, the Cherokee Trailhawk, especially with a 2-inch lift would be one of the most capable off-road vehicles on the planet... a true story...
The Cherokee is the only one with a rear locker... So enough said.
That Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is very nice.
why do I feel like my stock 94 grand is more at home off road than these are
The Compass got left out...
My money, wrangler or 4runner
if you put money on the grand Cherokee you can make an awesome offroader every gen.
The Cherokee's an odd one, very unusual for a car to have a better departure than approach angle, unless you're talking about a sports car. And it's a front drive platform? The angles make a bit more sense I suppose, but seems like an odd choice to use a front drive platform if you're going to just mount an all wheel drive system in every example.
I've always been interested in a comparison between a grand Cherokee and the most comparable Land Rover. Maybe the RR sport?
Great Review TFL. Nice to see all 3 of these together. Good to know that all 3 could do those tasks.
Why did you not state the actual ground clearance numbers ?
I think the Jeep Cherokee would be better if I had another inch of ground clearance. I do like that has rear lockers all terrain tires. they all seem good offer it is for most people and what they're going to do with them
they should offer the diesel in it too, as well as air suspension.
Just saw European Renegades might be having an issue with rear wheels leaving the ground under hard braking. The smaller liter engine is
having the most issues. You guys need to test to see if that happens on
the U.S. models. I mean, they are supposed to be the same right?
I love all 3! Forza Jeep!
I love my Rengade Trailhawk
awesome review guys. I'm going tomorrow to get the renagade for my wife. thanks for the review 👍🖒
how are you liking the renegade?
I have a 96 Jeep Cherokee and am thinking about getting another Cherokee but a 2019.Thoughts?
You'll be very pleased unless you are a rock crawler with a huge lift and need the solid axles. We had a 97 Cherokee for many years it was a brilliant vehicle that refused to die. However having recently moved to a 2021 Cherokee Trailhawk V6 the differences in road refinement, power, ride everything is light years different.
Nice! Please try and get ahold of the 2017 srt grand Cherokee. A mashup between that and the f pace would be cool.
Id go with the cherokee lol.. mainly for the aggressive look!
Deff looks the best i lpve mine
UK 🇬🇧 normally aspirated 2.0 litre renegade 170 bhp 0 to 60 is 8.5 seconds top is more closer to 130mph ,auto . Mpg average of 38 ... but normally I'm seeing 43+ ... so it's small .. but its more than capable in many ways .
I want to see a lifted renegade with wheel spacers and fatter tires
Look up the Wayalife videos. He wheels a lifted Renegade, it's actually pretty impressive.
thanks
I prefer the Grand Cherokee but I would say the Cherokee fits my use better.
You're the best, Roman!
+HazyVortex Roman says thank you for the kind words!
Andre's face tho when baja-ing
Grand Cherokee my favorite
I am sure less then 1% of GC owners would take it off road. Mall crawlers
I took my GC offroad on stuff much tougher than this and it did very well, but it also has the V8. I'm also in the market for rock rails now since my rocker panels have some battle damage.
take it off roading all the time. If city folk buy it then yeah mall crawler, but if country boy's get their hand on it, nothing but off road and farm work. (I have both SRT GC and Trailhawk GC use both for off road and work)
I wonder how many ppl lose sleep over how ppl use their vehicles... If i wanna buy a spaceship to “mallcrawl” im buying a spaceship... All my money, none of your business...
Whats your point here? I have a flawless 2010 WK with 20k miles. Why would i bring it off road? When i have the itch to spin some tires "off road" i take my 04 WJ with 157k on it.
ted101975 Minnesota winters, every trip to get bread and milk is an off road adventure.
Glad to see that the renegade can go everywhere my Honda accord can. -_-
Cute test track, 1000s of miles of county road in Western CO that is more demanding this.
jtnord yess
I'm sure the *_Texas_* Auto Writers Association had a reason for not doing this in Colorado.
Derp I heard that Texas bought Colorado back in the 1980’s.
A transfer case simply directs the drive going rearwards to the rear axle ands send it to also to the front axle...
TFL, do you know if Fiat/Chrysler has fixed the 9 speed transmission problems? I'm considering getting a Cherokee trailhawk.
Nice song TFLCar
My fav is the Grand Cherokee but the Cherokee is AWSOME too they all are!😂😂😂
I have dreams of buying a Grand Cherokee Overland. it's just difficult thinking of selling my 13 hatch WRX
i went from a roush stage 3 2015 mustang 675 horses to a trailhawk. love it. i guess im ok because i kept the mustang too...
I currently have a 2011 wrx, also considering a GC. I'm worried I'll regret getting rid of it
@@Cybanez you can always get a V6 and strap on a RIPP supercharger or get a V8 to make the transition a bit easier. or of money isnt an issue a SRT
hey I love ur guys Channels. u guys put out some of the best videos on CZcams...i watch almost everyday my cavities is the purpose stuff an the towing an diesel stuff I have 2 things I'd like to say
1. you guys should do a ultimate off road series or video ah do a wrangler an power wagon an maybe a few more. run them sick but put the Anne set of tires on them all ( the stock sizes of each of coarse) an make sure it isn't a mild all pick something that is aggressive so they can really be tested on the manufacturers off road capabilities
an my second thing is if love to see some diesels off-road a lot of ppl do four-wheel there hd"s.. thank u guys for the awesome videos an keep it up
Is grand cherokee 75th anniversary trail raided?
how dependable are the grand cherokee's, cause my '97 had issues that drove me crazy