I'm sure a large portion of us viewers don't actually pick locks yet we all have learned something that is valuable to us all; don't buy a master lock.
Master locks are very good quality a thief tried ripping my cable lock and took my whole window bar with him and stabbed his ribs master locks are really good quality don’t believe this fool with his little kits no one even has
@@michealangel1556 bro the first time I ever tried picking locks i picked a beat up rusty masterlock in 5 minutes with a Bobby pin and piece of hose clamp. Btw rusty and beat up =harder .If someone with any practice tried raking a master lock it pops open in seconds unless it has a rather extreme bitting. That's the absotue truth. Physically they are strong on the out sides but you can also use a blow torch and melt the insides to the point the lock will open within 4 minutes or less
@@michealangel1556 Sorry your window got broken into, but that was a really dumb thief. Just because one person doesn't know how to pick a Master lock doesn't mean that it's not possible. That's not logical.
LockPickingLawyer I think the issue is that if you drill the bottom of the cylinder out the entire pin stacks could be dumped out through the hole you drilled.
@@rat4spd One small screw? The main screw holding the lock core in place was under the shackle. Together with a thick plate. Which would make for a difficult task if one would try to pull the lock out of the bottom of the lock body.
This was such a fascinating video I didn't realize it was so long compared to most of your videos. Very impressive job with the picking and the break down. Its unfortunate they didn't optimize the core with the locking mechanism. Other then that this would still be a nice lock to use in a practical sense.
Nobody: Will it fit in my Honda? Hold my beer Am I a joke to you? Asking for a friend Everybody gangsta End this man’s whole career He protecc, he attacc … Sexual/genitalia innuendo/big balls Scatological/flatulence /potty joke Question of quantity answered yes Plot twist Left/entered the chat Gaming reference Dislikes are from I’m a simple man Not gonna lie No one gonna talk about Last time I was this early First Legend has it That’ll buff right out Fun fact (X) be like (X) intensifies (X) wants to know your location Ha ha (X) go brrrrr POV: (X) (X): Also (X): Imagine (X) Her: I'm home alone It’s complicated YT algorithm counting down years Who’s watching in current year? You Tube recommendations It’s free real estate So you've chosen death? Understandable, have a great day Punch line below read more
So few people would even attempt a lock like this. How long in total time did you spend on this lock? Masterful picking as always and a very nice lock to boot.
Thanks. As for how much time I spent on this lock... I shot the video the same day I got the lock in the mail... so probably a total of 1-2 hours playing with the lock, experimenting, and evaluating the mechanism before I turned the camera on. Because of the trap pins, I did not even attempt to pick this before tearing the lock down and learning the mechanisms. I didn't want to end up with a "bricked" lock. ;-)
Lock Noob It's really not that bad. Most of the time was spent removing the trap pins and progressively putting them back to ensure that I wasn't going to destroy the lock when I purposely tripped them. That was my paramount concern. Purposely tripping 6 trap pins is a daunting prospect.
Adam Ant, I wish LPL would have gotten around to answering your question. I'd really like to know the answer, too. That would be a really nice piece of information to know before purchasing this lock. If the lock became completely bricked after someone tripped the trap pins, and the owner couldn't un-brick it with a key, how in the world are you going to get into your storage unit, shed.. whatever the lock is protecting? Having to go after this lock with a grinder after some jerk tripped the trap pins seems like a steep price to pay.
An amazing pick, so much in such a small package. Great analysis of its short comings too. Looking forward to getting my picks to have a play with dimple locks. Just have to find some dimple locks not too common in Aussie. Thanks again.
I think the drill protection was there in such excess because the locksmith really wanted a lock people couldn't pick, and didn't want some son of a mother-father coming along with a drill and saying "yeah, I'll have a go at this" I mean, if you made an almost entirely pick proof lock, would you make the shackle out of zinc, or thick hardened steel?
Just out of curiosity. What did you buy it and for how much? I can't find a single shop that sells these. I probably should follow your advice, but I am attracted to big padlocks =)
German here. I realy like your work especially when you open looks from us, because you aren’t trash talking and do your picks with respect for the work wich was going into the making of the lock
i have infinite respect for Germans, my first car was a bmw. no other car i have owned has felt the same, even tho it was an 86 it still felt better driving than cars from 2010.
Strange, I'm so much more curious about locks than computers. Seen a lot of your 3-4 min lockpicking videos. Starting to find more challenging lock vids, you find some real doosies, like this one. As always, nice job!
I like taking apart electronics to see what they look like and I feel like this is the analog version of it, still really interesting both ways and amazing informative videos
Figured out a fairly easy way to figure out pin orientation if you mix them up. Line them up shortest to longest and put the key in the lock. When you look down into the pin chambers, you can tell which is deepest and which isn't, etc... Makes it super easy to repin.
This lock seemed so good based on all the good things you said about it, then you mentioned the flaw and I got slightly concerned, then I heard the lock pop open and I kinda just sat there shocked
I don’t believe the engineer should be canned, as design flaws happen to a lot of these locks. If the lawyer picked it it was because there was a design flaw. This is still a very well made lock and you have to take in account that the Lawyer is very skilled in picking locks
Yep I don't think one out of a million ordinary lock-picking thieves would have the skills to tame this beast. I would use with confidence, but I bet that anyone trying to steal anything secured with it would vandalize whatever you're protecting with it just out frustration!
I can imagine this one, beefed up with Ruko-style sleeve and Ruko's own pins for sleeve and shsrp Assa Abloy spools, as well as Ruko five two-part sidepins being quite the workout. Perhaps one or two of the trap pins being magnetic.
Now that's an impressive pick. I guess it helped that you had a key and so could take it apart before picking to find out about those 6 trap pins. Nevertheless very very clever. Not convinced many could pick that lock.
I've wonder if I could attempt some picking just on LPL's videos! I never understood what he meant by "Counter rotation" or "Count Clockwise". This video exposed the last part of picking I never understood. My understanding: Locks operate with the pins, once these pins are raised a certain distance, they 'break in half' (so to speak) and the core is able to rotate. So, the point of a lock picker is to finder those 'breaking' points. And the way this is accomplished is by turning the key way in the direction you would open the lock with. The counter-rotation/picking is the way you move the pick, which looks like a mini-flag. A core 'fault' of all locks is that when there's tension on the core, you can slowly raise the pins into place and the lowest ones will lock into place, and allow you to move onto the next one. You do this until all the pins are locked into place. It seems the principle works with wafer, and discs. Maybe? It's not the same as in the pins, but you're tensioning the core to allow you to find the 'lowest' 'pin' in one of these locks. The lowest being the first viable wafer/disc, and the pin being the wafer itself. Combination locks seems to be different in that, you're not using tools to pick them open. You're finding looseness in the locking mechanism and it's feeling the difference of looseness that allows you to feel the correct (viable) combination. Anyone want to tell me what I may be missing?
I'm not sure why, but your voice always reminds me of Carl Sagan. I miss Carl Sagan :( Sweet lock! Awesome picking! I have never seen a Hugo here in Canada. Probably even more rare here lol.
Hi, love your channel. In future before you start picking a lock, could you show us that key still operates lock prior to pick since often you take them apart first to be more transparent. Thank you either way.
Hi Harry, Wow what an over engineered cylinder .... maybe. Obviously both set of trap pins would come into play in a Euro cylinder or other applications - as you mentioned. Trust you to find a design flaw ...! Great. Well picked and excellent descriptions of ALL the functions. BTW hardened anti drill pins are not a great deterrent for our hardplate safe drills - but the spinner, that's a different story. Regards, Brian.
Agreed... my approach in this video would not be very effective (fast) in an application that required a full clockwise turn. Picking the deep spooled trap pins while both picking and tensioning clockwise would be very, very hard. On drilling, I always thought that it was the abrupt changing of hardness in brass to hardened steel/carbide that really damaged tooling and delayed drill attacks. That's why I thought those pins were somewhat effective against even bits than could chew through a more homogeneous hardened material. Not so? I speak from a position of zero experience on drilling, so it's possible I'm parroting the remarks of someone who didn't know what they were talking about.
Hi Harry, Certainly the hardened inserts will prevent standard drill bits from penetrating. On a cylinder fixed solidly in a door, the carbide safe drill bits with specially shaped tips, will cut through them. There is often other ways to by pass the hardened inserts, such as the Perry Puller, a special tool that will literally "suck" most plugs out of a lock cylinder. Regards, Brian.
Hi Harry, The Perry Puller was made in Australia by a Locksmith/ toolmaker - they are no longer made to my knowledge. I did in fact see an almost identical tool a few years ago, on a German site that sold expensive locksmithing tools (Govt.?) You may be able to find it, I have no idea which one now. The tool works like this. A special self drilling/ tapping screw is wound into the keyway using a battery drill, an appropriate steel plate is placed over the cylinder, and the puller attached. Using a spanner on the puller body, the plug is extracted. It shears off pins, clips etc. It has bearings on all mating surfaces, to minimise friction. The screw will bypass hardened pins, ball bearings etc. It's not your everyday go to tool, but for locks that have been superglued etc. or a high security cylinder, that you wont have the luxury of picking - or trying to pick! It is a quick way in. Regards, Brian.
+Brian Hignett I think I know what you mean... something like this? shop.multipick.com/en/opening--locksmith-tools/opening-locked-doors/cylinder-pulling--destructive-tools/special-lock-pullers/bell/bell-accessories
love the way you find little flaws in these locks great breakdown as usual.. I'm currently working on an mt5 but getting no feedback at all I can pick an interactive no problem do I need to set the alpha spring first?? because when I try that it still feels springy
Thanks. On the MT5, I've only found one in which the Alpha Spring mechanism doesn't set first, so it's not a rule, but that's what I always check first. Usually, the set is not subtle. A very distinct "click." Good luck with it.
I'm getting no click from the alpha at all.... I've just put a bid on one on ebay and this one has a key which should help lol thanks for the info and keep up the good work I will keep you posted 😆😆
The knowledge and expertise of LPL leads me to ask: while we know there has never been and never will be a perfect lock, what about a list of criteria for a maximally EFFECTIVE lock?
No problem. I normally do say what I use, but if I don't, feel free to ask. In this video, I'm using a SpooXe left curved flag, and a HUK tension wrench.
Thanks. The gutting isn't so bad once you know where everything is. The trick to gutting and reassembling the trap pins is in the rotation of the follower.
There should be a website where you can search/filter locks based on their features/advantages and disadvantages. E.g. I think, I'd like to have a secure not-easy pickable lock, but drilling could also help me, if I lose my key 😅
This is the best video I have seen I'm very impressed with the skills you have. When will you be dropping the attorney job for exclusively lock picking???
WOW...excellent picking...what complicated gutting...I don't think I would've even attempted it...LOL...and talk about overkill on drill protection...Honestly I kept thinking..Who drills a padlock??? in fact if someone can't cut the shackle..most of the time they will attack the hasp or chain it is attached to..but that is just my thoughts..Thank you for sharing :-)
Interesting question. The practical answer is that they are both good enough to stop pretty much any criminal. The "pickers" answer is that the MT5+ is far harder than either of the other two locks. I'd probably say that the Interactive (with post 2008 pins) is harder for the padlock, and the GR 5s is better for a door lock where you need a full turn and the trap pins come into play. That said, consider the source -- I happen to find MTL's far easier than most people, so I suspect there are others who would disagree with me (putting the interactive first).
Very interest. Gives me a few idea for challenge locks. With all that drill protection, I'm curious how drill would actually go. Imagine if those pins weren't hardened lol. May explain why there are so many.
A trap pin challenge lock... well, shit. There is definitely a ton of drill protection... kind of a kitchen sink approach. We have the thick retainer plate, the spinner, the first two pin stacks with steel pins, and 10 hardened inserts in the core. Considering the relatively low drill threat against padlocks in general because they are not securely mounted), I don't see this lock ever being drilled. As for the inserts not being hardened, who knows... they don't come out for testing. Interestingly, Lockwood is struggling with this exact problem now. Apparently they sold many locks with non-hardened inserts (that's what happens when you outsource production to China). I'm told you can drill them with ease.
Just the approach of more is better makes me think they aren't hardened. Anyone knowing anything about locks and drills bits etc will surely know that 2-3 real hardened inserts would be good enough specially if there is a plate and spinner. That's pretty much the set up we see with every known brand, assa MTL medeco etc. Wow what a let down. Can't believe what I'm hearing. I'll give up all hope once Assa goes to chine but for now and probably a while I'm still good :).
I’m intimidated just looking at this lock. Really impressive stuff as always. I can imagine some German engineer somewhere watching this video and screaming “NEIN! DUMMER AMERIKANER! JETZT MUSS ICH BEI MORGEN DREI ARBEITEN, UM DIES ZU FIXEN!”
Great job as always. Only comment I would make is that when your picking you are doing it from an advantageous position. I am assuming because of the camera angles and it would be hard to show what you were doing if the lock or door knob was mounted? I started to learn how to pick when I was installing locks for a living. Was never very good at it. It was definitely much harder to pick with the lock or knob mounted.
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I'm sure a large portion of us viewers don't actually pick locks yet we all have learned something that is valuable to us all; don't buy a master lock.
Devon Sanders I was looking at locks at Walmart today.. they have their own brand now.. made out of aluminum
Master locks are very good quality a thief tried ripping my cable lock and took my whole window bar with him and stabbed his ribs master locks are really good quality don’t believe this fool with his little kits no one even has
@@michealangel1556 bro the first time I ever tried picking locks i picked a beat up rusty masterlock in 5 minutes with a Bobby pin and piece of hose clamp. Btw rusty and beat up =harder .If someone with any practice tried raking a master lock it pops open in seconds unless it has a rather extreme bitting. That's the absotue truth. Physically they are strong on the out sides but you can also use a blow torch and melt the insides to the point the lock will open within 4 minutes or less
Micheal Angel haha no one even has. I have several lock picking kits. They’re pretty cheap, your thief is not very skilled.
@@michealangel1556 Sorry your window got broken into, but that was a really dumb thief. Just because one person doesn't know how to pick a Master lock doesn't mean that it's not possible. That's not logical.
So much drill protection! Perhaps the architect had a lock drilled out in the past...
LOL... these locks were definitely built by someone who subscribed to the "more is better" school of lock design, which does have some merit. :-)
LockPickingLawyer I think the issue is that if you drill the bottom of the cylinder out the entire pin stacks could be dumped out through the hole you drilled.
@@lockpickinglawyer And all of that held in by one small screw.
Germans also make very good drills ;-)
@@rat4spd One small screw? The main screw holding the lock core in place was under the shackle. Together with a thick plate. Which would make for a difficult task if one would try to pull the lock out of the bottom of the lock body.
I like the analyzing of unusual features you find. I learn a lot from them.
Thank you... that's what I find most interesting as well, which I guess is why this is a 17 minute video. :-D
This was such a fascinating video I didn't realize it was so long compared to most of your videos. Very impressive job with the picking and the break down. Its unfortunate they didn't optimize the core with the locking mechanism. Other then that this would still be a nice lock to use in a practical sense.
Thank you... and you are correct that it is still a nice lock, even if not well matched to its core.
A very impressive lock. Nobody without an in-depth knowledge of the core would be able to pick it from what I can tell
i just here for picking up his calm voice for sleeping
i’m glad to know i’m not the only one
How much drill protection do you want?
Hugo Locks: Ja
German guy: Hey Hugo
Hugo: ja
German guy: Get ze drill protection
Hugo: *Singing the 12 pins of lockmas*
hugo locks: all of it
Nobody:
Will it fit in my Honda?
Hold my beer
Am I a joke to you?
Asking for a friend
Everybody gangsta
End this man’s whole career
He protecc, he attacc …
Sexual/genitalia innuendo/big balls
Scatological/flatulence /potty joke
Question of quantity answered yes
Plot twist
Left/entered the chat
Gaming reference
Dislikes are from
I’m a simple man
Not gonna lie
No one gonna talk about
Last time I was this early
First
Legend has it
That’ll buff right out
Fun fact
(X) be like
(X) intensifies
(X) wants to know your location
Ha ha (X) go brrrrr
POV: (X)
(X):
Also (X):
Imagine (X)
Her: I'm home alone
It’s complicated
YT algorithm counting down years
Who’s watching in current year?
You Tube recommendations
It’s free real estate
So you've chosen death?
Understandable, have a great day
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So few people would even attempt a lock like this. How long in total time did you spend on this lock? Masterful picking as always and a very nice lock to boot.
Thanks. As for how much time I spent on this lock... I shot the video the same day I got the lock in the mail... so probably a total of 1-2 hours playing with the lock, experimenting, and evaluating the mechanism before I turned the camera on. Because of the trap pins, I did not even attempt to pick this before tearing the lock down and learning the mechanisms. I didn't want to end up with a "bricked" lock. ;-)
Wow, under 2 hours. I'm in even more awe!
Lock Noob It's really not that bad. Most of the time was spent removing the trap pins and progressively putting them back to ensure that I wasn't going to destroy the lock when I purposely tripped them. That was my paramount concern. Purposely tripping 6 trap pins is a daunting prospect.
LockPickingLawyer If they were tripped, say by attempted thievery, could the key not be inserted to push them back into their respective pockets?
Adam Ant, I wish LPL would have gotten around to answering your question. I'd really like to know the answer, too. That would be a really nice piece of information to know before purchasing this lock. If the lock became completely bricked after someone tripped the trap pins, and the owner couldn't un-brick it with a key, how in the world are you going to get into your storage unit, shed.. whatever the lock is protecting? Having to go after this lock with a grinder after some jerk tripped the trap pins seems like a steep price to pay.
Wow that was serious work. I felt the pain in your voice 😂
An amazing pick, so much in such a small package. Great analysis of its short comings too. Looking forward to getting my picks to have a play with dimple locks. Just have to find some dimple locks not too common in Aussie. Thanks again.
Thanks... dimples are not common here either. Ebay is your friend!
Great picking and problem solving. Very nice indeed. Thank you for the detailed look inside and explanation of an interesting lock
Thanks.
3:52 - LPL 'freaking out' lol, calmest dude ever.
Just wow. I've been going through your videos trying to learn as much as I can and learning to pick. Still amazed how easy you make it look.
He sounds like my dentist. A1-24 b2-13 overbite under left. One set 2 bind. Lol.
You've activated my trap pins! :P
A Ygo reference here... Wow
Oh shit xD
José Manuel You mean HuGiOh
You missed! whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop
Gemany knows their locks
Never seen that kind of core with trap pins, my first. Very nice and informative. Notes taken and Thumbs up.
Thanks. This core was a first for me as well.
[Over 4 years later...]
- Have you done anything with those notes yet?
Lmao....!
Like I said before you really know your locks. That was a great pick and demo. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Thanks.
I love those types of key, they just look so good. If there's such a thing as having a favourite key style then that's mine!
Such a great design on that core, wonder if this is their best . Thanks for teaching us what you know. 🗝
Almost 5mins, i recommend this lock!
I think the drill protection was there in such excess because the locksmith really wanted a lock people couldn't pick, and didn't want some son of a mother-father coming along with a drill and saying "yeah, I'll have a go at this"
I mean, if you made an almost entirely pick proof lock, would you make the shackle out of zinc, or thick hardened steel?
If you are Master, you will apparently put your most pick proof lock into a plastic lock body. So who knows why anyone does anything, really.
Amazing. Fantastic pick of a scary beast.
I dont even want to watch your videos... but I'm pulled in every frigging time! You make it interesting, great job!
Great vid! You always have the coolest locks! Keep em coming!
Thanks.
Great picking and a brilliant video on an amazing lock, very impressive again.
Thanks.
It is very expensive watching your channel with all the locks I now want =)
LOL... I'd skip this one, though the GR 5s core might be fun to pick up.
Just out of curiosity. What did you buy it and for how much? I can't find a single shop that sells these.
I probably should follow your advice, but I am attracted to big padlocks =)
+Jasmine Lognnes there's an eBay seller in Greece... only place I can find it. his current asking price is what I paid.
Are you sure it is ebay.gr ? It only shows golf equipment when searching for "cobra 61p" or "hugo locks cobra 61p".
+Jasmine Lognnes www.ebay.com/itm/262059798464
German here. I realy like your work especially when you open looks from us, because you aren’t trash talking and do your picks with respect for the work wich was going into the making of the lock
that's an amazing lock actually
i have infinite respect for Germans, my first car was a bmw. no other car i have owned has felt the same, even tho it was an 86 it still felt better driving than cars from 2010.
Wow that was awesome. Thanks for sharing it with us brother and great job picking !
Strange, I'm so much more curious about locks than computers. Seen a lot of your 3-4 min lockpicking videos. Starting to find more challenging lock vids, you find some real doosies, like this one. As always, nice job!
WOW what a lock , would be a head ach putting it back together
as always a great video , keep them coming
THanks. Assembly isn't too bad if you understand how to rotate the follower to set multiple pins located at the same depth.
I like taking apart electronics to see what they look like and I feel like this is the analog version of it, still really interesting both ways and amazing informative videos
Never seen someone pick a lock to get it closed before. Only LPL. Can’t get enough of this.
"Happy to be done with this lock"? You still got to put it back together! lol! Looks like the most tedious core ever to put back together.
Figured out a fairly easy way to figure out pin orientation if you mix them up. Line them up shortest to longest and put the key in the lock. When you look down into the pin chambers, you can tell which is deepest and which isn't, etc... Makes it super easy to repin.
Trap Pins! WOW.
Nice video as always!
Thanks... if trap pins interest you, I have a playlist of trap pin locks on the channel. :-)
This lock seemed so good based on all the good things you said about it, then you mentioned the flaw and I got slightly concerned, then I heard the lock pop open and I kinda just sat there shocked
I would like to know if Hugo had reacted and fixed the design flaw.
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I am curious as well how they reacted . Have they communicated with the lawyer I'm wondering ?
The engineer that designed that should be canned...Whata dingaling.
Tell him too pick a lock from the street he won’t able too open it
I don’t believe the engineer should be canned, as design flaws happen to a lot of these locks. If the lawyer picked it it was because there was a design flaw. This is still a very well made lock and you have to take in account that the Lawyer is very skilled in picking locks
17 minute video. I think that says enough that Hugo could use this in their marketing.
Yep
I don't think one out of a million ordinary lock-picking thieves would have the skills to tame this beast.
I would use with confidence, but I bet that anyone trying to steal anything secured with it would vandalize whatever you're protecting with it just out frustration!
I can imagine this one, beefed up with Ruko-style sleeve and Ruko's own pins for sleeve and shsrp Assa Abloy spools, as well as Ruko five two-part sidepins being quite the workout. Perhaps one or two of the trap pins being magnetic.
Now that's an impressive pick. I guess it helped that you had a key and so could take it apart before picking to find out about those 6 trap pins. Nevertheless very very clever. Not convinced many could pick that lock.
"We dropped a ball.... jees"
nice work man lovely trap pins well done keep em coming thanks stiglock..r
Your videos are incredible
Nicely done LPL!
Thanks.
I would love to see such a lock bring put back together. I'll even watch on bitchute if too many obscenities are uttered and unsuitable for this site.
Excellent as usual 👍
Thanks.
well done and well picked reallky profesinal thanks stiglocks..r
That looks like it has more complications than a watch nice pick and gut. Wow at your skillset!
WOW that's a fiddly lock - nice pick! (said like I would even have a chance...)
I've wonder if I could attempt some picking just on LPL's videos!
I never understood what he meant by "Counter rotation" or "Count Clockwise". This video exposed the last part of picking I never understood.
My understanding:
Locks operate with the pins, once these pins are raised a certain distance, they 'break in half' (so to speak) and the core is able to rotate.
So, the point of a lock picker is to finder those 'breaking' points. And the way this is accomplished is by turning the key way in the direction you would open the lock with. The counter-rotation/picking is the way you move the pick, which looks like a mini-flag. A core 'fault' of all locks is that when there's tension on the core, you can slowly raise the pins into place and the lowest ones will lock into place, and allow you to move onto the next one. You do this until all the pins are locked into place.
It seems the principle works with wafer, and discs. Maybe? It's not the same as in the pins, but you're tensioning the core to allow you to find the 'lowest' 'pin' in one of these locks. The lowest being the first viable wafer/disc, and the pin being the wafer itself.
Combination locks seems to be different in that, you're not using tools to pick them open. You're finding looseness in the locking mechanism and it's feeling the difference of looseness that allows you to feel the correct (viable) combination.
Anyone want to tell me what I may be missing?
Great info thanks
Glad you liked. :-)
I love your videos!
damn!!! this one is a very good lock
This reminds me of the dentist for some reason, when he picks these kind of locks.
6:10 Daaaamn. I actually didn't see that coming. That is crazy.
"Is unnecessarily difficult to take apart."
Takes it apart in 68 seconds.
I'm not sure why, but your voice always reminds me of Carl Sagan. I miss Carl Sagan :(
Sweet lock! Awesome picking! I have never seen a Hugo here in Canada. Probably even more rare here lol.
Sagan? That's a first. I was just reading about Carl Sagan Memorial Station yesterday!
Lol cool, talk about timing. I think it's the calm melodic tone to your voice. Very pleasing to listen to, and always conveying information. :)
And also the fact that he has darn near flawless diction/pronunciation. LPL has actually found himself on some ASMR playlists now. : )
I completely agree, I always fall asleep to his videos just like I used to fall asleep to Sagan as a kid!
Your videos are da bomb.
Hi, love your channel. In future before you start picking a lock, could you show us that key still operates lock prior to pick since often you take them apart first to be more transparent. Thank you either way.
Master Lock should hire this guy to fix their lineup.
good video, informative. ..thanks
Thanks.
very informative video ! wasn't to much of a challenge for you eh .. good thinking on dealing with obstacles....
Thanks.
Hi Harry, Wow what an over engineered cylinder .... maybe. Obviously both set of trap pins would come into play in a Euro cylinder or other applications - as you mentioned. Trust you to find a design flaw ...! Great. Well picked and excellent descriptions of ALL the functions. BTW hardened anti drill pins are not a great deterrent for our hardplate safe drills - but the spinner, that's a different story. Regards, Brian.
Agreed... my approach in this video would not be very effective (fast) in an application that required a full clockwise turn. Picking the deep spooled trap pins while both picking and tensioning clockwise would be very, very hard. On drilling, I always thought that it was the abrupt changing of hardness in brass to hardened steel/carbide that really damaged tooling and delayed drill attacks. That's why I thought those pins were somewhat effective against even bits than could chew through a more homogeneous hardened material. Not so? I speak from a position of zero experience on drilling, so it's possible I'm parroting the remarks of someone who didn't know what they were talking about.
Hi Harry, Certainly the hardened inserts will prevent standard drill bits from penetrating. On a cylinder fixed solidly in a door, the carbide safe drill bits with specially shaped tips, will cut through them. There is often other ways to by pass the hardened inserts, such as the Perry Puller, a special tool that will literally "suck" most plugs out of a lock cylinder. Regards, Brian.
Brian Hignett Perry Puller? I tried searching, but couldn't find anything on it. Is it also known as something else?
Hi Harry, The Perry Puller was made in Australia by a Locksmith/ toolmaker - they are no longer made to my knowledge. I did in fact see an almost identical tool a few years ago, on a German site that sold expensive locksmithing tools (Govt.?) You may be able to find it, I have no idea which one now. The tool works like this. A special self drilling/ tapping screw is wound into the keyway using a battery drill, an appropriate steel plate is placed over the cylinder, and the puller attached. Using a spanner on the puller body, the plug is extracted. It shears off pins, clips etc. It has bearings on all mating surfaces, to minimise friction. The screw will bypass hardened pins, ball bearings etc. It's not your everyday go to tool, but for locks that have been superglued etc. or a high security cylinder, that you wont have the luxury of picking - or trying to pick! It is a quick way in. Regards, Brian.
+Brian Hignett I think I know what you mean... something like this? shop.multipick.com/en/opening--locksmith-tools/opening-locked-doors/cylinder-pulling--destructive-tools/special-lock-pullers/bell/bell-accessories
You know it's a good lock when you get a 17minute video
"Lets get this out onto a tray.. nice mkay!"
love the way you find little flaws in these locks great breakdown as usual.. I'm currently working on an mt5 but getting no feedback at all I can pick an interactive no problem do I need to set the alpha spring first?? because when I try that it still feels springy
Thanks. On the MT5, I've only found one in which the Alpha Spring mechanism doesn't set first, so it's not a rule, but that's what I always check first. Usually, the set is not subtle. A very distinct "click." Good luck with it.
I'm getting no click from the alpha at all.... I've just put a bid on one on ebay and this one has a key which should help lol thanks for the info and keep up the good work I will keep you posted 😆😆
The knowledge and expertise of LPL leads me to ask: while we know there has never been and never will be a perfect lock, what about a list of criteria for a maximally EFFECTIVE lock?
I'm wondering if in future videos you could show us what picks you use. Helps us new guys.
No problem. I normally do say what I use, but if I don't, feel free to ask. In this video, I'm using a SpooXe left curved flag, and a HUK tension wrench.
Thanks for your response, Lock Ick Lawyer.
Great picking. I would make a proper mess of the gutting. If I manage to pick it. Very well made lock. Thanks.
Thanks. The gutting isn't so bad once you know where everything is. The trick to gutting and reassembling the trap pins is in the rotation of the follower.
There should be a website where you can search/filter locks based on their features/advantages and disadvantages. E.g. I think, I'd like to have a secure not-easy pickable lock, but drilling could also help me, if I lose my key 😅
This is the best video I have seen I'm very impressed with the skills you have. When will you be dropping the attorney job for exclusively lock picking???
He already did.Forget which vid to reference.
Any thoughts on using a good old fashioned plug spinner to get past the trap pins?
That must be a real pain to put back together with those trap pins.
It's actually very easy... the trick is in the rotation of the follower.
Pretty good ad for hugo all things considered
I understand why you're a lawyer! You have to represent yourself for all the locks you pick!
These guys should have u design your perfect lock 👍👊
WOW...excellent picking...what complicated gutting...I don't think I would've even attempted it...LOL...and talk about overkill on drill protection...Honestly I kept thinking..Who drills a padlock??? in fact if someone can't cut the shackle..most of the time they will attack the hasp or chain it is attached to..but that is just my thoughts..Thank you for sharing :-)
Thanks. You are right about drilling padlocks... I doubt anyone would try to drill any padlock unless it was nice and soft brass.
nice picking again. Nice looking lock too
+chefgav1 Thanks.
LockPickingLawyer would you rate the picking resistance above a mul t lock interactive or a mt5 plus?
Interesting by the looks they only made it a single ball bearing locking?
Was actually looking at getting this or a mul t lock NE interactive.
Interesting question. The practical answer is that they are both good enough to stop pretty much any criminal. The "pickers" answer is that the MT5+ is far harder than either of the other two locks. I'd probably say that the Interactive (with post 2008 pins) is harder for the padlock, and the GR 5s is better for a door lock where you need a full turn and the trap pins come into play. That said, consider the source -- I happen to find MTL's far easier than most people, so I suspect there are others who would disagree with me (putting the interactive first).
i like when he overhypes the locks and make them sound really hard and unpickable then just picks it in like 2 seconds
Very interest. Gives me a few idea for challenge locks. With all that drill protection, I'm curious how drill would actually go. Imagine if those pins weren't hardened lol. May explain why there are so many.
A trap pin challenge lock... well, shit. There is definitely a ton of drill protection... kind of a kitchen sink approach. We have the thick retainer plate, the spinner, the first two pin stacks with steel pins, and 10 hardened inserts in the core. Considering the relatively low drill threat against padlocks in general because they are not securely mounted), I don't see this lock ever being drilled. As for the inserts not being hardened, who knows... they don't come out for testing. Interestingly, Lockwood is struggling with this exact problem now. Apparently they sold many locks with non-hardened inserts (that's what happens when you outsource production to China). I'm told you can drill them with ease.
Just the approach of more is better makes me think they aren't hardened. Anyone knowing anything about locks and drills bits etc will surely know that 2-3 real hardened inserts would be good enough specially if there is a plate and spinner. That's pretty much the set up we see with every known brand, assa MTL medeco etc. Wow what a let down. Can't believe what I'm hearing. I'll give up all hope once Assa goes to chine but for now and probably a while I'm still good :).
I’m intimidated just looking at this lock. Really impressive stuff as always. I can imagine some German engineer somewhere watching this video and screaming “NEIN! DUMMER AMERIKANER! JETZT MUSS ICH BEI MORGEN DREI ARBEITEN, UM DIES ZU FIXEN!”
This is actually a pretty good lock
Just out of curiosity what is the most frustrating lock to pick?
A weld. Lol but this lock looked like a spring loaded weld. I'm goin through the door.....
Seems like this lock is just tough enough that if you planned to pick it to break in, any concern about time would lead you to reconsider.
Would you be able to fix the issue with the slack when the trap pins are engaged by making one of them standard and leave the other two spooled?
The dudley looks like fun. This looks like a nightmare.
What a great lock....I want one.
Thanks.
@@lockpickinglawyer do you produce them?
Very nice core, but what a hilarious design flaw with the padlock it was in
When you stick your pick in even though you know its a trap
*wink*
Fuck off weeb
Sounds like an Elder Scrolls Oblivion pick locking mini game
I really enjoyed what you did here. I don't understand what the passive pins are for. Could you please explain that in one of you videos.
I believe it's primarily for key control. The key blank must be cutout to precisely match the passive pins or else it won't fit into the keyway.
Only the strongest of the Hugo locks can make the swim across the Atlantic.
Your spacial reasoning skills must be off the chart.
Can you please telle us what would be your approach if you wouldn't know about the trap pins? Thanks!
That sure would make a fine lock for a abus high security chain for My NEW ebike ( hint hint ) LOL !!
Great job as always. Only comment I would make is that when your picking you are doing it from an advantageous position. I am assuming because of the camera angles and it would be hard to show what you were doing if the lock or door knob was mounted? I started to learn how to pick when I was installing locks for a living. Was never very good at it. It was definitely much harder to pick with the lock or knob mounted.
Damn. This one is way above my pay grade.
2020 you finally put all together?