Do This Before Giving a Painting to Your Client!
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I was married to an artist and picture framer for 14 years, meaning I had my own professional framer. My only cost was materials. After we separated, I was shocked when I took something to be custom-framed & found the frame would cost twice what I was planning to ask for the painting. I ended up having it matted to fit a standard frame. Then I taught myself how to cut mats, bought a shrink wrapper, and purchased frames in standard sizes on line. I also bought UV protective glass from a frame supplier where I bought my matboard & occasionally moulding. It came in packages of 10 or 20 sheets & was less expensive than having it cut individually. (Every time I tried cutting glass myself, I either broke it or got rough edges.)
They also sell hangers that I love. They go in the corners, are triangular with saw-teeth. Because there are 2, the nails don’t even have to be level to hang it levelly. The frame never shifts or gets out of level and the frame doesn’t hang away from the wall. They come in 2 versions, one for wooden frames & one that fits the slots of metal section frames.
The easiest frames are metal section frames, which mostly have simple clean lines that don’t detract from the image. I generally stick to black, gold, or silver, but they come in many styles & colors.
Now, I always create art that fits standard-sized frames. That way I can either buy a fairly inexpensive frame for the customer or the client can buy a reasonably-priced frame online or at a store (in the U.S.) such as Michael’s or Walmart that will fit. For work on paper, I create art that fits standard-sized mats. I usually sell the work matted in shrink-wrap, but will provide a frame if wanted.
Also, I occasionally buy a cheap but sturdy frame in good condition at a yard sale or at a 2nd-hand shop and then create something to fit.
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@@cg8397 Actually, we worked out a financial deal that benefited both of us for several years after we separated until our state passed no-fault divorce. That was in the early 1980s. Then I learned how to file my own divorce (easy without joint property or children,) That cost me a total of $35 filing fees.
I don't put the certificate on the backing, but directly on the back of the picture (I'm doing photographs, not paintings though). The certificate is meant to certify the authenticity of the picture for decades to come and should not be removable from it, also I don't trust the owners to keep the original backing all the time. If the buyer wishes it, I cut a window in the backing where the certificate is.
Additionally, in this times and date, I number my certificates and take a picture of the photograph and the certificate side by side and add it to my database of work sold. With this I can proof the authenticity of the certificate anytime it is challenged - or proof along the consecutive order of listed numbers in the database that a certificate is illegitimate.
I'm not an internationally known artist who might actually profit from that, but it is satisfying to do such a thing at the highest possible standard, especially since it costs close to nothing, just a little time.
I'd permanently affix it as well. Of course, with knowledge, anything can be removed from anything. However, my work isn't Rembrandt, or Monet, or even Basquiat (I wouldn't do anything that looked like that anyway), so I'm pretty sure that no one would try to reproduce any painting I've ever done 😁
Oh heck just right out of the back of your canvas with a sharpie. Forget the certificates.
@@aprildegele1510it doesn’t matter
Your work is unique special. Works (hundreds life time of works), from someone were stolen and falsified -
Sign and deter thieves. Their end is not good, so help them avoid it just the same
May I share a couple of tips in the hope it will be of some help and inspiration. Firstly, I'd like to suggest a dust free environment to house the painting when drying the varnish.
For small paintings, I often use a Tupperware tub and place it upside-down over the painting. It helps to drill some holes on the bottom of the tub, in order to help with airflow. Otherwise, for larger projects, I suggest building a box-frame and surround it with clear plastic and install a door at the front. Since most of my paintings don't exceed more than 3 feet in height, my frame is a 3 x 3 foot square and can accommodate most of my work. On the odd occasion I make anything larger, I risk it. The reason why I started using this method had to do with laying out a painting once to dry and despite being careful (with no pets), a clear amount of dust had settled. So, I adopted this method, which ensured I was safe, but not sorry.
My second suggestion has to with the string for hanging the painting. Perhaps you could tie your bow more to the left or right of the painting. Having the knot in the centre could prove problematic when hanging the painting because the knot can get in the way when hanging the painting and you wish to balance it. This means if you want to get to the other side of the knot you must remove the painting and rehang it. If the knot is placed to the side, it eliminates this issue effectively. Guess I'm too much of a perfectionist and wish to avoid any little issues a client may have with my work.
Hope this helps. Love the painting. Clearly, you're a talented artist.
I add an inventory number that looks like a code, so it might be 344-A-24. That would be my 344th piece, A for January, 24 for the year. And I also physically sign the side or back of the canvas where it can’t ever bleed through. If a panel, sign the back, with a permanent marker.
That's good to know, thanks for sharing :)
I add an inventory number too and list them in a spreadsheet. Sometimes I change the title of unsold paintings for different exhibitions or clients but the inventory number never changes. You never know you might be famous one day and people want to know your back catalog of early works!
Ooh I like codes. Maybe sometimes you could try Morse code
I also give an inventory number. For example, #240204AP-WL3
That stands for the year, month and day completed (2024 Feb 04) AP is for acrylic painting, and the WL3 is for the title, in this case “Winter Landscape 3.” I usually don’t need to add that last part for the title, but occasionally I complete more than one piece of art on the same day, so that differentiates them. So I add that to all.
I keep a database with info about each piece of art with more info such as the size and weight (in case I have to ship it.) I list the materials I used, basic color scheme, estimated cost of materials, sale price, buyer’s name & contact info.
I also keep a file with photos of each piece as I complete them.
I have a standard form I include with each sale. It has my short bio and general & specific info about the piece. I have the basic form saved by medium and usually only have to plug-in a few pieces of info. For example, I create some 3D works made from many different materials, so I mention if they are or are not waterproof and how to clean them.
In the U.S. I have to pay income taxes on art sales, but I can subtract the cost of materials, shipping, etc. so I keep a detailed database of art supplies when I buy them. For example, if I buy a dozen canvases, I list the total cost, then the price of each. Sometimes I have to guess how much I used of something, such as paint.
I admit that I hate this part of being an artist and always feel like it takes too much time away from what I love, creating.
A family friend is an artist. In the early days starting out he learned how to build frames and cut mats to save money and maximize his profits. Even after all his years of success and accomplishments he still does his own framing.
That's cool! I know a few artists who make and gild their own frames. It's an art in itself! Definitely if you know what you're doing it saves money from going to the framer and the artist normally has a good feel for what goes best with their painting
Wow That is a fantastic thing to do, certainly would love to know how to do frames.
@GeorgeFrederickThomas I knew artists who did their own framing when I worked for a molding distributor. They would come pick up the pieces they had precut and some came by to have prints heat mounted on foam board. I learned quite a bit at that job and had a lot of fun.
@@TriniRoyQuiReyesDomestika does a really good free online picture framing course.
I would suggest two certificates, one affixed to the back of the panel or canvas the other to back of the frame.
great idea
Might be a good idea to photograph all your works before they leave your studio if you don’t already do that. Handy for future use in perhaps a book or promo piece for instance. 🤔 I enjoyed the video. Thanks 👍🏻🙂
Thanks 🙂 yes I do that too
I always had a little blurb about the copyright, so they don't think it's their image now and can make note cards or something. I learned a different way to do the back, to use brown kraft paper and double sided special tape, the paper covered the whole back. Great that you show artists how to present their painting after it's done so it looks professional.
Thanks! That's a really good point, I think include a bit about copyright on my future paintings
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I agree with this important comment about the need to add a copyright to your work. Also, I would like to add to this comment concerning another often overlooked mention that there is no actual copyright on ideas as such as many people can have similar ideas and produce work that can appear similar naturally. For example; a painting of a Cow, or a Lion, or a painting of a seascape, etc.
However, that said, it is equally important to be aware that if one is basing their artwork on something genuinely produced by someone else. Then, ideally, one must first obtain permission where possible, and if this is so, then the original artist must be credited in recognition of the original copyright. It is important to use terns like "Thus artwork is based solely on an original artwork by Name, Date, and Title or simply use: "After artwork by..., artwork title, and dated. " I would also like to add that copyright issues can be complex, and it is always best to check online to keep informed of any changes to copyright laws of the country one resides in Ashwell as the addition of the copyright laws of any country that ones work may be sold in.
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Interesting point. I’ve sold photographs and naturally assumed the copyright was mine alone because I hadn’t taken them specifically for people but just offered prints for sale. One magazine actually contacted me to use a photo they spotted on a guy’s mantelpiece and payed me. But if someone strikes a deal beforehand to paint a picture for them surely the copyright is theirs? Same as a newspaper taking on a photographer/writer to cover an event for them, which I’ve also done: the payment was specified up front.
@@TerryMcGearyScotlandThey're purchasing the painting/image not all rights associated with the painting/image unless otherwise specified.
@@Not_Attached It's not unless they specified that in the contract of the commission. It's still the intellectual property of the artist. The subject and the medium aren't relevant.
I've been looking at having a Stamp made with my logo and name, a maker's mark, to stamp the back of my handmade panels,I will now include the Certificate of Authenticity info with it. Brilliant, thank you.
I like Walmart for frames. I can get a 16x20 in frame for $13 and then you can spray paint it and put texture on it and all sorts of stuff and it's really a lot of fun too. And you could be totally creative about the color you use. I really am kind of into gold and silver but I will put other colors on it too and maybe splatter some spray paint. The frame can be just as much fun as the picture
first smart comment here! bloody nauseating - the video!
This is not only good advice, its one of the most important for artists. Thank you.
Thank you! I'm happy it was helpful :)
When framing use a soft cloth to lay down on your table first so you do not scratch the frame. Very nice video also.
That's a good idea. I'll do that next time. Thanks :)
I think it would be good to do a video about copy writing artwork, there are a lot of people around that are more than happy to steal and rip off artists creations. Thanks for your video, very interesting.
I always clean the glass with Isopropyl alcohol and give it time to dry. I also wear lint free gloves when handling anything so I don’t leave finger prints on the glass or picture. Great video by the way
For framing tape use a credit card to work it into the corners then lay the card across the tape and pull up from one side like you're tearing it, it will tear along the line created by the card.
Use an awl to start your screw holes.
Making it loose will not cause the painting to hang further from the wall but it should be loose enough and the anchor points high enough that a 120° slack will bring it almost to the middle of the top of the frame. This makes it easy to hang, easy to center, and having it hang close to the top means that if you're hanging it underneath another frame, like it might in a gallery it's easy to judge the distance you need to put the mount.
I also use picture wire, but string is fine.
-17 years art restoration and framing. 29 years as an artist-
Thank you, that's good to know
Yeah, no problem I work in art restoration with my grandfather, who has almost 60 years of experience. When he got out an old gift card when putting framing tape up I thought, 'not a bad idea, get out the wrinkles, etc.' Then he used it to tear a perfect line in it and I was mindblown, so I always keep a gift card or two in my toolbox sometimes they send you the little fake ones in the mail and I save those too.
The big takeaway from this is the fabulous advice of including information about the painting with the painting. That is super helpful to collectors and painting conservators.
However, I’d never use that varnish. It contains damar which yellows, darkens, and gets brittle over time. Conservators strongly recommend against any damar-based varnishes. Instead, wait until the thickest part of your painting won’t budge under fingernail pressure then apply a modern synthetic varnish like Gamblin’s Gamvar. Gamvar is permanent varnish but is easily removable with mild odorless mineral spirits which has little to no effect on a fully oxidized oil paint film.
Happy painting!
Thanks! I've heard good things about Gamvar that it's a permanent varnish and you don't have to wait as long to use it as most other varnishes I'll have to try it. Happy painting!
I find retouch varnish gives a lower gloss, helps protect the painting, dries fast and helps intensify colours. Your painting is lovely and you framed it well.
Thank you so much :)
Very good to know. Even though I’ve only sold two paintings ( and one of those was to my son who insisted on paying money into my account for it!😂) you never know what commissions might come my way. Still even for home and friends this is good practice.
Thanks! I hope it's helpful and many more sales come your way :)
I had no idea there was such a thing as "framers tape". Thank you for the tip!
Good info about labeling a painting in a frame. I like to place paint layer and color info directly on the backside of the painting with a soft grahite pencil. The graphite can be sealed in and will be detectable forever. The use of a gimlet helps in starting the screws. The gimlet makes it easier to keep the screw straight.
Thanks! that's a nice touch. That makes sense using a gimlet before screwing
I use thin nails and bend them into loops behind the frame because I always have that problem with screws going in crooked and sometimes splitting the wood. Didn't know about a gimlet and I absolutely need one now, thanks!
Excellent video and great work. I’m painting again after 25 years so I’ve forgotten 95% of everything. I’ve subscribed. 😊Many thanks. Kathy.
Thank you so much. Happy painting! 😊
Immediately after varnishing, cover the painting with a larger panel propped up on books above the painting so that dust or any other floating debris, such as hair in the room doesn’t settle on the painting
Very helpful and very well presented. Thank you!
I usually get started with the frame. I collect them at flea markets, preferably old gold frames.
It's often necessary to restore lacking parts. Then I cut the panel, add some layers of gesso and try to find a motif that corresponds to the frame.
I always use picture hanging eyelets. I can imagine that with your method it's rather difficult to get some pictures of the same size in a line. Thank you for all that good ideas!
Thank you, that's cool! I sometimes come across really nice frames in charity shops here for really good prices and cut a panel to fit the frame too
That was very helpful. Presentation is everything. Thank you!
Thanks you're right! I'm glad it was helpful :)
Many thanks George.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching :)
So much good advice. Thank you George! Not forgetting to mention your beautiful artwork. 😊
Thank you! 😊
I thought this would be about curating and keeping records of your work, lol. This is an important step in making your name as an artist...a database should be set up to have the following...a unique accession number for every work, the buyer, their contact info. (buyers become collectors, and should be part of your marketing), the price sold for, details about when painting, inspiration, etc., a good clear photo, the measurements, etc. I have a great big notebook of my dad's work, having curated it...even if nothing else happens with your career, your nearest and dearest will be glad to have a record of it. If you are serious about reproductions, a professional image should be taken (including the name of the work, measurements, date, and your signature ON the transparency or high quality digital image). This is all VERY difficult to do after the fact, and if you are serious about having a career should be a part of your routine...there should also be a contract with the owner about who has rights of reproduction (it should be you) and that you approve all reproductions if you care that people don't do weird things with your work. Just some thoughts off the top of my head, might be good to look in to and do a video on.
Incredible artist
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This was so useful!! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you 😊
Thank! I'm happy it was helpful :)
Great work George! Will try this next time.
Thank you :)
Very nice George! No doubt those touches are appreciated by the client. I am just getting started with one sale and I know what to do now, Thanks brother!
I was taught that oil paintings should not be covered because they need to breath or continue to dry over time. This is a great video for water colors.
Yes oil paintings don't need to be covered, the frame I use here doesn't have any glass in it so only the edges of the painting are covered. For watercolors I would recommend putting a mount board and then glass in the frame.
What a beautiful painting
Thank you :)
I usually put a note in the back where I say that they can do any copy as they want. Just maintain the correct attribution.
A nice personal touch, careful and very thorough. BTW that painting looks like a photograph, outstanding work! Subs here for sure.
Thank you :)
This is super helpful! Thank you 🙏.
Thanks I'm happy it was useful :)
I like the suggestion of making the dimension of frame slight larger than the canvas size
Lovely artwork ❤️❤️❤️
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Enjoyed this, great job!
Thanks :)
This has very useful information. Thank you.
Thank you, I'm glad it was helpful :)
Lovely ❤
Thanks :)
So glad I stumbled across your video. I learned so much about things I never knew I needed. Very educational -thank you so much! I love your Rocko painting! Such a wonderful piece of heartwarming art.
Thank you for your comment. I'm really happy that the video was helpful :)
Thanks George for great information and your work is so awesome. You manage to capture the feeling of joy and love expressed by the dog . I'll watching more on your channel !
Thank you so much! I'm happy to hear that :)
Dogs - you are a great artist!!!🥰
Thank you 😊
Great info, thank you! 😊
Thanks :)
Thank you. This was very helpful.
Thanks, I'm happy to hear that :)
Very Professional!!
Thanks! :)
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks :)
Amazing work 👍
Thanks!
great video, very useful! Thank you!👏
Thank you I'm glad it was helpful :)
Enjoyed tthat, quality. informative and well presented.
Thank you I'm happy you enjoyed it :)
Necessary lesson , thanks
Thanks :)
I'm glad to have found your channel. Have never had professional art training, but started watching youtube artists during the pandemic. I have always been able to draw, have used acrylic fairly successfully (according to non-artist friends ;) but I don't like the finished look of acrylics. Recently retired and bought a starter set of water soluble oils to try. Will be watching your tutorials and thank you!
I'm glad this was helpful, hopefully my other tutorials will be useful for you too. Thanks for your comment! :)
Very useful video. Thanks.
Thanks, I'm glad it was useful
I frame very similarly. I tend to use wire instead of cord and I put the certificate into an archival safe cellophane sleeve and then attach it to the back.
I always frame under glass because I sell watercolor originals. Thank you for sharing your source for frames- that will be so helpful!
Thanks for sharing your process, I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Very helpful, thank you.
I'm happy it was helpful! Thanks :)
Thank you!
You're welcome :)
thanks for sharing ❤
You're welcome, thanks :)
I absolutely love liquitex high gloss varnish it's amazing. But I don't do oils anymore because I don't have the patience I love acrylics they dry and you varnish and you give away your paintings to your family and friends. I do have some people that pay for my paintings but I'm not sure about that
Love your coat.
Thanks 😀
Thanks John Snow.
Your and good artist. Good work
Thank you :)
Good work friend!
Thank you :)
excellent video! Greetings from new york !
Thank you! 😀
Good info in your video as well as in the comments. Thank you George. New Sub
there's got to be an appropriate knot for joining two ropes that would make it function better but pretty classy with the tape.
What a beautiful painting and this is such helpful advice. I am an artist as well and these kinds of videos take all the stress out of trying a new medium. I really appreciate how clearly you showed each step and the reasons as to why you do things a certain way. Thank you. :)
Thanks! I hope it's helpful for your artwork :)
a flathead screwdriver works wonders on the frame tabs. a butter knife would work well, too.
Nice video with some good advice...In the U.S., we frequently use a SPRAY 'retouch' varnish, which enables us to varnish the painting very soon after it is completed (if for example if you have to deliver a commission, or you want to exhibit the painting immediately). If you are using a drying medium like Liquin, it can literally be spray-varnished 24 hours after you were actually working on it. If you brushed on a varnish (even a lighter retouch or 'exhibition' varnish) that soon, if could easily smear or 'pull up' wet areas of paint (especially cadmiums which take longer to dry). The cord seems quite odd and awkward to me...I use metal picture hanging wire and make it fairly tight (but of course it is adjustable). Some people like the wire that is coated with plastic. Also I think the label should be affixed directly to the back of the panel itself. I paint on canvas and always sign, title and date the painting (and also use the 'copyright sign', that little 'c' in a circle) directly on the back of the canvas in permanent marker (of course also the painting is signed in oil paint on the front). And if it is 'papered' there can also be a label affixed, as you have done. The point being that the label you use could potentially become separated from the painting, if it was reframed in the future. It seems that the label could be very safely glued to the back of a panel.
I just learned quite a bit I didn’t know. Most of my paintings are on framed canvas or I buy a frame w/ the hooks on back, but this is really good to know in future.
I'm glad you hear it was helpful :)
Painted on my birthday
I thought he was going to suggest the cat would see the note and know it was wet varnish haha
This is very good info that most never think about...also an artist could include info like what type of varnish, if any, was used in case someone needs to know that in the future. Beautiful work!
Thank you! That's a good idea 😀
Good work mate, always glue my business card on the back of each painting.
Thanks mate :)
Normally, if you want a hair and dust free varnish , you let it dry under an elevated glass panel ..
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I'm a painter. I wish I could do realistic paintings from photographs. Your paintings are so sweet and not contrived.
Do you not want to miter the tape? I love your voice! It's so relaxing. Great video, very informative. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you! This was very helpful.
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Thanks! I'm happy it was helpful :)
This is really helpful, thanks. That’s a very cute pairing of the little dog too! What do you think about siding spray varnishes?
Thanks I'm happy it was helpful! I haven't used spray vanishes before but I know some artists who like to use them
Godsend! I always assumed I'd have to wait six months before sending away my paintings!
When I do smaller paintings I am used to add a passepartout out of home-made, tactile paper when there is need to for one. Stay curious!
🎉🎉🎉 brother man 😂 wow congratulations you made new Friends from Europe 😂. Thank you for this beautiful video it's well rendered 😂👍
Thank you 😁
@@GeorgeFrederickThomasThank you Sir😃
Very good bar one detail... when hanging the knot must be to one side. It can really get in the way if it's in the middle and make it impossible to hang straight. Keep up the good work 😊
Thanks! you're right, I've actually changed the way I do the string on the back so that the knot is on one side and it looks a bit nicer too. I've made a part 2 to this video with a few improvements: czcams.com/video/K7LKAaVkUbk/video.htmlsi=7W6ko-BzsSZPskiy
Nice video. Painting is great. I usually order my frames from Jackson's Art Supplies, my main art shop. Is that exhibition varnish is any better than damar retouch varnish? I usually use Zest-it damar as smells less than others. Thank you for sharing!
I used to pull cuticles back too far and get "clouds" on the fingernail. You have them too.
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That dog photo is a painting? 😮 It looks like a print......Amazing!
Thank you 😃
@@GeorgeFrederickThomas you're welcome 😊
I would personally advise against pouring varnish directly onto the piece. It's better to dip your brush into the varnish from a container and then apply it.
I've tried that but I find I cover the painting better by pouring it straight on to the painting as depending on how quick drying the varnish is it can start drying in the container (perhaps I hadn't put enough varnish in when I tried it) whereas this way there's no time for that to start happening. I imagine that way would still work well though as most varnishes recommended doing it your way I just find this way a bit easier to do
Oh heck no just like pour that crap right on the top of the picture it's so much fun
@@jmdenison Ask an art conservator how they feel about that.
Forget the certificate I just directly sign the back of the painting with a sharpie and I always come up with the creative name and some details and that makes it so much more fun in artistic. You might even try a poem on the back too that would be fun. I've done that. Have also made some pretty crazy silly comments about the picture too and how long it took me and if the cat walked on it and how many times the cat walked on it
You’re probably fine due to the lack of light exposure, but I’d recommend a pigmented pen/marker versus a dye-based Sharpie. Marks made with Sharpies fade and develop a yellow “halo” over time.
@@andrewlenz that might look cool! thanks. I like the idea of an auto halo around my name. proves Im from the angelic realms with my art
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Great Video. Do you or can you varnish photo prints?
Here's a really funny story I like to do healing art with the stars and zodiac in the background for my clients. So one time I put the stars on the background and a varnished it too soon but it was really cool because of varnish Streakedthe stars and so I just went with that and created a really cool effect. When I was done those stars were definitely in movement
I like the painting of Rocko. You are quite talented. Can I copy the certificate writing or download it from you?
Really nice presentation! I assume that the exhibition varnish you use is the same thing as retouching varnish?
Thanks! Yes I believe they are the same thing
Instead of string, I have used wire. Each end is "twisted" around the hangers and I have no string knot in the middle. The wire can be twisted as tight as you wish.
On the back of the artwork, I use craft paper.
I use wire also, but I use brown butcher paper to the back of the frame, unless I buy a standard size frame that comes with a backing. I love wood frames, and try to collect them from flea markets, and second hand stores. I always forget to measure them, and often have a hard time matching paintings to frames. I guess I should learn to make my own canvases, and canvas panels.
Actually forget the screws of the d-rings. Put a very thin 1 inch board across the back and put an eye hook into it and that's a much easier way to hang a painting. All you have to do is make sure the eye bolt is right in the middle. That's what I do much easier easier to hang no kind of BS.
Do you have a pdf of the certificate of authenticity?
For instance he doesn't talk about the dog portrait he sold on what type of canvas...brushes he used...paint brand...I've met artist that can describe the canvas the brushes and type paint they used on each painting they used.. that's a real artists....
This is the video of me painting the dog. I'm not sure why you would think that I'm not a real artist czcams.com/video/VQqNJUgdWfM/video.htmlsi=knGE35hG3eTrxhfI