The Bass Compression Trick for Tight, Solid Low End | musicianonamission.com - Mix School #38
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Without a solid bass part, your mix could sound thin and weak.
Getting the bass right is vital in creating a track that sounds full and professional.
So, what's the key to dialing in a tight, solid low end?
Compression.
In this video, you're going to learn the fast bass compression trick that will instantly make your tracks sound more professional.
But first, be sure to grab the free bass mixing cheat sheet www.musicianonamission.com/st... - Jak na to + styl
Have you ever used serial compression on bass before? Leave a comment!
Does compression and limiting count?
yes
Is it serial EQ when 12 db is not enough of a frequency boost and you have to add a second EQ to get the desired boost? Or is it just a lousy EQ?
No
Musician on a Mission where’s the bass cheat sheet?
Hahaha... all the comments about what he should do with the song. I agree with most, but still was able to look past it and learn from what was offered. More importantly his SPEAKING VOICE was pleasant, concise, informative, and to the point. So many youtube videos out there with, "umm... uhhhhh", heavy breathing, awkward pauses, annoying speaking voice, out of balance mix of audio to music, useless diatribe, etc. This video is actually really good. Thanks MoaM.
Thanks!
Yeah, absolutely. That "umm...uhh" get to my nerves. Seems an american thing or so.
I like the looped part where someone is smashing someone's face into a midi keyboard, the clanks makes it hella tight.
yer all about the natural eh?
I lol'd at this, hard.
I was trying to think of how to best describe the jarring sound emanating from my speakers and when I read your comment I knew that you had perfectly described it. Hella tight indeed.
That's fucked up bro....funny af though.
lmaooo
What a bunch of ungrateful and ridiculous comments. Who cares if you don't like the music? Did you learn something or not? This is a really well done tutorial. In my opinion 'Musician on a Mission' presents some of the most concise, clear and informative audio tutorials on the web. As someone else mentioned, having a track with snippets of very different genres to reference against quickly is a stellar tip.
Well I give it an 80. I recommend it to my friends but I wouldn't buy it myself! JUST KIDDING! That's an old joke from a show called American Band Stand. I don't recall the music had to b to my liking. I think it as you state...shut up and learn THEN MAKE YOUR OWN MUSIC so we can say your writing sucks..We agree with you DF. Some people just have to insult.
DF Tweedie, not a case for me not liking the music, more of a case of that piano prt is incredibly distracting, I can hear it even after turning the video off, if you’re doing a tutorial video the music really needs to be a little bit more easy on the ears and not make you wanna turn it off and get the hell out! I would appreciate that.
The track is representative of the the target audience. Not all bedroom producers/engineers are turning out sweet, sweet hooks/melodies/riffs. His teaching is sound.
I make EDM and this tutorial was amazing for me
This channel is A+++. And that tune was well chosen for the tutorial. Bravo.
i'm just sad that there is a person who thought that piano riff was a good idea
🤣🤣🤣 he played it back and I’m like, “what the hell is that?!” Good info, but that riff is so out of place😂😂
i thought we're back doing 12-tone techniques
I thought i got rick rolled for a sec
Hahahah
😂😂
Fantastic video! The best explanation of compressor settings I’ve seen. And bonus points for showing comparison against your reference track. First tutorial I’ve seen that’s done that.
This is really very helpful. You always have just the right tip. Appreciated.
Compression/s really made difference in d mix.
Really nice technique.
Thank you
Thank you, I love this video because the music your working on is as crazy as the stuff I struggle with most of the time! Cheers
A first I was cringing at that piano loop but I heard it so much, I got used to it and now I like it! A great reminder to write what 'you' want to hear, not what everyone else does. Great tutorial!
Thanks!
Lol, me too!
Play something long enough and ear fatigue kicks in, that way you can enjoy anything
Repetition legitimizes
Repetition legitimizes
As soon as you referenced 15 Step and Coffee and TV, I knew I was in safe hands. This was great, and genuinely helpful for an issue I'm working with on one of my productions. Thank you!
Happy to help!
Thank you so much! I think I've learned more about mixing these past few days with your videos than I have in my entire life. Keep up the great work!
Awesome! So glad we could help out.
This channel is heaven sent, thank you so much
Being struggling with bass sound for yonks, so thanks for this, great video.
I'm the only one who likes the weird piano, apparently.
Great tutorial man!
it's just out of tune sounds awful
I didn't like it at first, but it quickly ended up growing on me
I like the loop...
Você por aqui mano?
I like that piano too.
Amazing as always!
MOAM....this is exactly what I needed since I decided to mix and master my record on my own this time. Appreciate you guys and love this channel. Thank you!
The biggest thing I got from that was checking multiple references : ) Gonna do that more. THanks :)
As a bass player I can sheepishly admit I've never used channel serial compression on bass. It's the only way to do warm fudgy vocals (especially female), but the idea there is to use a higher ratio on the first one to catch peaks and present a more controlled level to the second "character" compressor with a lower ratio. Now I need to try it on bass!
I used to, but forgot with time, that was a great video to remind me that we got so many possibilities, but sometimes hesitate Thanks
This really helped me bring some sense to some flubby loose low end i had plaguing me. Thank you and i look forward to watching more videos!
those attack and release tips did a lot for me. thanks!
Awesome! Glad they helped.
I liked the amount of references you used - a thing to remember
Very helpful!
@@masteringcom btw what are your references being played thru? just another app on the same machine?
I've been doing it for a long time now without even dealing it. And it never works for me, hence why I'm here to find out how to make my low end more powerful and crisp, without getting in the way of the kids and highs. Thanks Aloy. I've been watching tutorials for a little over a week or 2, and they've helped me immensely. I've done music as a hobby for years and never realized why my tracks weren't hitting the way professional ones do, or how I wanted them to. And these tutorials are one step closer to the way I need them to sound. So thanks! Maybe I'll take this hobby more seriously now.
Great tutorial! Thanks so much. Can't wait to try it!!
I've typically had success with getting the first compressor in the chain to just hit at the higher transients (with maybe 1 to 3 DB reduction) then use the second compressor to hit the signal with hotter gain reduction (7 to 10DB)
Tnx 4 tips Mr. Genius... another good one...i've seen at least over 3oo dvds and let me tell U, U R one of the best...
Amazing tutorial and amazing music
I like the overlay of the audio spectrum over the video when the audio is playing. Nice touch.
Thanks!
@@masteringcom may i know what is that overlay spectrum analyser?
Honestly, I was skeptical at first watching that this would squash the bass too much, but I tried it on a Cubase track and I have to say it definitely improved the "sit" of the bass. I'm producing a country tune and I laid down a bass track that I didn't originally expect to keep. I was experimenting with a new bass (maple neck 78 P with flats) and it was kind of buzzy, so I rolled the tone all the way off. I was more interested in how the bass played rather than how it sounded. But it felt pretty good. Well, by the end of comping I ended up liking the bass track a lot so I wanted to keep it, but it just was too diffuse and not really sitting in the mix well. Which wasn't surprising given the bass set up at the time and, um, lack of prep (I *really* didn't expect to keep the track :). Anyway, after using these techniques, I found that the bass mix was improved so much that I actually will keep it. I love the consistency the compressors give it, and since my track is more staccato, syncopated, and busier than the demo, I'm still getting the transients I want. It'll be interesting to try this on a track with other bass setups (Jazzes, roundwounds, "normal" tone settings, etc.) Thanks for the tip!
Awesome!
Hi! Yes i have used serial compression before and it works very well.
This was extremely helpful and clear. I could hear the difference even on an iPad thank you very much, I like music. Something different for a change.
good timing i'm needing to cut thru better, i'm not a bass player so i'm using virtual instruments and been tryin all kinds of fun...i'll be watchn thanks...
These "out of tune" guys know nothing, great track and great tutorial. I salute you!
Thanks for the reminder for real. It's been a while.
thanks. needed this
Thanks a lot brother... Usefull video
You're welcome!
One mistake though when you applied saturation, you left it on the reference track so the first didn't do anything. I watch a lot of your videos, and familiar with the references you usually use - that's why I noticed. Nice taste by the way. :) And very good videos. Keep it up!
Thank You! That was an excellent walk-thru! Bass Guitar sounds awesome
Nice presentation. Well done and easy to watch. Points well made. Thanks
for the saturation part.. I recommend parralel routing there.. and using a linear phase EQ on both channels (or just good pdc).. to get a crossover ... and then saturate the low (or the whole) signal on the saturation channel.. and cut the lows afterwards with the phase linear EQ (on that saturated channel) .. so you get the additional harmonics of the lows in the mix... wihtout adding more lows to it... (which allready come from the unsaturated channel) because of the lp eq you can also sculp quite nicely in which area you want these harmonics more and less ... (linear phase EQ because of the summing of both channels... if it wouldn't be linear phase you would get some unintended cancelations)
I like that, thanks for sharing !
“Serial compression” sounds like a disorder. Lol
it is.... it is.......
or crime :P which it also is...
Feels like it.
Great video, been using compressors for years and still learned some things. Great explanation of how to actually tweak the parameters!
Great video. Thanks!
I must say the piano in this piece of music was beautiful.
No, I did not use serial Comps. really want to try it!
Your track sounds really nice, making references sound poor.. thanx for teaching!
Thanks, great video! 👍🎶
Awesome. Thanks for the tips.
I actually found this super useful, and being a fan of jazz, and life hip hop, I actually really like the piano part. There is such a thing as atonality/polytonality and dissonance guys, look it up. He's just got a vibey track, and awesome bass! Cheers dude!
I'm a bit late to the party but I wished I had done this particular beat!
I have not tried this. Will look at it and see how I go. Thanks ;-)
Good luck! Let us know how it works.
It certainly tidies my low end up, so been a step forward for me. Many thanks from Sweden! :D
Helpful. Thank you!
Awesome tip dude!
y'all r tripping this piano is next level
why ppl chattin so much about the piano track, its a bass compression tutorial. why else u here?
get taught fool
Maybe it's because pros use similar techniques for pianos ?
@Danibolical 1 Was new to Logic, plus it never hurts to go back to basics and liaten to what others have to say yo. Keep tracking👌
Because he could’ve used a more logical example
Love the reference track!
Refound this video & wow, it's done more to sort my bass sound out than I can believe, thank you!!
Can you do a video focusing on mixing instrumental songs. I work with instrumental post rock and find that the problem I run into is without the vocals the guitars become the focal point, become the vocalist almost. So where in the frequency range should I emphasize the guitars to make them the star of the show like a vocalist would be. Normally we mix them more in the back to let the vocals shine through. Any advice from you or anyone reading this would be much appreciated. Thanks all. :-)
Interesting idea! We'll keep it in mind.
I was thinking that but the vocals like in the 2k region and that area can lead to some harsh guitar tones. So this is where my confusion comes in. Thanks for responding.
different guitars/amps/distortions/etc sound better in different areas, just emphasize what sounds best, which doesnt always have to be about frequency in the first place, it could simply be a bit of volume
A good sounding bass track helps when the piano isn't on LSD
Excellent video
Yes. It works. Thanks.
Yes. I use a limiter and compressor
Interesting approach!
Just fiddle around with the second compressors threshold until you get the sound you want. Nothing is done in an exact "correct" way, but whatever sounds good to you.
John Core cool. i use a maximiser and a limiter. OR an expander and a compressor.
Do you normally use limiter or compressor first in the chain? And why?
sweet...Trey
That piano is marvelous! Can you give me its sample?
Just play it yourself :)
Why should you use a sound from someone else anyways?
@@nichttuntun3364 May you don't know how to achieve it
@@whenshemethimmusic5736 Your answer was an expected one for me. Again, why would you like to use a sound someone else already made and it´s used thounsands of times before already? To stay in tune with conventions and genre-rules?
@@nichttuntun3364 It might have not been used a thousand times, may be you just like how it sounds. Even more, may be you don't even know how to play that instrument, or you do not have the budget to buy it and record it or hire someone to play it.
@@whenshemethimmusic5736
Yeah, there always are reasons :)
simply awesome, helped me with dancing loudness of the bass track in death metal recording
Great video - thank you
Read all the comments first and was like guys the music is not that bad what are you all talking about... and then it came on 0.o
after teaching almost 200 billion people
I do use it now! great tip thanks m8
Thank you!
What's the difference between saturation plugins, and just EQ boosts?
In short, EQ is just boosting (or cutting) the existing frequencies. Saturation adds harmonics which can make a sound source sound brighter, warmer, more aggressive, etc.
Musician on a Mission I understand a little bit. I'll have to look into it further to find out what you mean about adding harmonics.
Thank you for your reply.
Sonic The Hedgehog - Casino Nights
Brian Mahoney Lol you know wassup my g
Don't disrespect the sonic soundtrack like that
so helpful. love your videos thank you infinitely
Awesome...great sound ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
what the actual hell is this piano
This piano is playing such (unfitting) dissonant notes. It was hard to listen to this.
This guy must be tone-deaf or something.
Hilarious! That's exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah. Ewww
No compression trick in the world can make up to this awful sound 🙈... And what is up with the reference tracks he a-b'd to? How can I trust an engineer with an obvious lack of taste. Sorry bro... I cannot be objective on that. BUT ANYHOW: Thx for your work and passion!
These 5 commenters obviously lack sophistication when it comes to harmony. Dissonance properly used is supposed to provide tension in contrast to the release sections. Sorry guys, but steer clear of jazz and fusion. And definitely do not listen to no Herbie Hancock. Oh and Eastern microtonal music, just say no. You wouldn't get it anyway.
The music killed this tutorial.
Sorry you didn't like it!
The tutorial was awesome otherwise!
Dude went through all the trouble to make this video. I'm not sure what there is to gain by dissing his music. I watch tutorial videos all the time. If I don't like something about the video I just move on.
I'm just sorry that you chose such a dissonant passage to repeat over and over and over again . hard to listen to
It sounds like somebody found a computer with Reason and played around with preprogrammed melodies. Almost, that piano makes no sense and is so annoying and this comes from someone who likes experimental music.
nice trick bro thanks!
Sounded good to me thank your for the tricks
As good as this tutorial is, the track you are mixing makes this a hard watch. Literally one of the most annoying sounding tracks I think I have ever had to listen too. This probably highlights why i could never be a mix engineer.
Settle down, tiger.
💀💀
Thanks for blessing us with your opinion on the track….
Bro as soon as he hit the play button I checked to see if anyone mentioned it and oh my geeze I wheezed
What a whiner. you are going to be okay.
0:29 That guy is a programmer, not a musician lol.
Nice tutorial. Well said..
Thank you!!!
no
No compressor in the world can save that track
Yes I have used it before.
but now after watching this I must say that I didn't know what was I doing. now I am going to reproach this technique with my live rig.
Thank you very much. This is in fact so simple but effective removes all the mysteries and awesomeness of 90% of all this must have preamps, saturations, eq, the best sound is indeed just in a properly compressed bass guitar and all three rest becomes simply unnecessary.
great tutorial! thank you!
TUNE THE KEYBOARDS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
or Compress the out of tune keyboards 20:1 with gain and channel fader set to zero.
I could not listen to this. Had to turn it off. That "music" track was way too grating to listen to repeatedly.
Same here. I can't take advice from someone who thinks this is music. Unsubscribing.
lol yeah it was pretty bad
Have to agree, sadly. There's good advice here and a very good presentation, but that song just hurts to listen to. Issues of musical taste aside, the high end is way too busy and distracting to let us hear what's going on in the bass that he's tweaking.
It really wasn't the song I was hoping to hear, but with that said, I could actually hear the bass punching harder, also whole listening on a phone. So I think it worked well. If you were to take up mixing professionally, some of the music you are mixing might not be your cup of tea, but you will still have to mix the music to its full potential, and mix it to be listenable on many different sound systems.
I thought it was a pretty cool and unique song personally. Good to hear something different
Thank you so much!!
It works just fine 👌🏻
Awesome!
Very useful. Thanks you.
Tell me that tracks a joke?
I like it, nothing wrong with a little dissonance.
I dont like it , but you gotta remember, music can be used for more than listening to by ureself, for example for television, movies and so on, this track probobley fits somewhere in that realm I guess
Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!! Throw the piano out of the window. It's like a Chinese cat singing to a man who's spinning plates on sticks. Great tip though. Thanks.
That piano sustain and carrying over to the next chord is sour. His concept is cool though...
Amazing tutorial, thanks!
I USE THIS TECHNIQUE TO WORK LIVE. GREAT
what a disgusting piano chord, so unpleasant for ears, so out of track tuning...
out of tune amk?
I've used this method for a long time and I'm glad people like ypou can explain it so well for people that are starting off. Right on
Great tutorial!
How on earth can you pick a demo track with that awful piano sound? Had to turn it off
what a horrible song to use for an example
great tutorial mate, thanks!
Really helpful, thank you! :)