6" mbrp stacks, autometer boost and pyro, afc dialed in all the way with bd fuel pin and spring, prince of darkness 100hp injectors, hx35 turbo, 5 speed manual
yeah that's great on a cold diesel to crank on it as soon as it starts, o yeah and Im pretty sure the term rolling coal is used when it is running down the road with black smoke comin out, not grey,white and black when your trying to burn up your starter
he is telling the truth rolling coal is not when u starting it up with grey smoke cause its cold. rolling coal like he said is when is been started and its blowing pure black smoke.
I just did a head gasket on a 12v and it didnt cost 6 grand. It actually cost about $135 and 6 hours time. Every time I cold start, I will hold jsut a c hairs worth of throttle, forcing it to idle at 600rpm when it would otherwise not be able to idle. As soon as I see a full 40psi of oil pressure, I will bring it to 1000 rpm for about 30 seconds and it can then idle by itself until its warm.
on the cummins with the intake heater instead of glow plugs, isn't the cold start procedure to hold throttle at half way until it starts and then for 3-5 seconds after that? I'm not sure if the gen 1 or 2 are like that but normally it would say on the visor for starting procedure. I could be wrong....
overkill much? Course anything less than overkill is an under achievement...... Never had any issues starting my trucks in the cold, although at -45 I'd probably just stay home for the day. lol
@doctabuttah1 just so you know it isn't ruining oil. White smoke is from the engine not being at operating temp causing the engine not to burn the fuel fully because the combustion chamber isn't at operating temp...
Siu Andy - I have an 89 dodge diesel, and once had a 90 set up the same way and never plugged them in and as long as they had a good battery, I never plugged them in and they always started, but they weren't fueled like this particular video however.
If I have a diesel turbo, I must plug it in during winter no matter what. When you start the engine, if it did not fire up in the first place after you crank it for 10 sec, you should let the starter rest at least 15 sec, you have no idea how hot the starter is when starting up the engine especially with a lot of resistance in the circuit in low temperature. You didn't let the engine warm up and rev it, it is simply just dumb. You should at least let the engine idle for 3 minutes before you drive it…You can give me shit but it is all I gonna to say.
if you want to start shit about dodge gas motors im game because they are hands down the best boat anchors around ill give you that. they are all just about in the junkyard the hemi isnt worth a flip neither are the trans.
It's supposed to have a grid heater,it's the same purpose as glowplugs,but for air. This thing should start immediatly like a well tuned diesel engine does. Starters are not made to run long whatever the engine.they heat up very quick seen their huge energy consomption. slow starting engines are improperly tuned,worn out or too cold.
nothin like friggen givener on the bearings with low to no oil pressure. thats the problem with diesels in the cold. block heater or reduce life and cranker cold
Not really tbh the extra fuel doesn't help much but what really kills cold starts is advanced timing of you have a shit ton of timing it will not start
If its still misfiring leave it be. the issue of bad vibration will amplify at higher RPMs if its misfiring. If its firing smooth then it's ok to idle higher. But misfires cause bad vibrations that can hurt the motor.
Technically the faster you get the engine up to temp....the less wear and tear ( cylinder washdown ) I never let my diesel's idle on a cold mornin, get in it and go. Certified International diesel tech.....
John Deere tells us to idle at 1200-1400 when it's cold. It's easier on bearings too because your motor can hurt itself by shaking from idling to low and not being smooth. But keep the speed steady don't just slam the throttle down. If it's still too cold to rev don't push it
i wish all the people on here who do cold start videos on their diesels that their engines blow up,interesting how all trucks have block heaters and you would think that hydro costs millions not to mention what it does to your engine starting it cold and then on top of it being a hero and reving the engine because the smoke is cool some people need a good back hand
Ok, I can admit when I'm wrong. I'm going off the fact that the International 4300s I drive for work (that don't have glow plugs) have to be cranked for a good 45 seconds to start in the winter. And that's how I was briefed to do it.
Right! Very good, i was talking about the block (grid) heater, only sissy pickups have glowplugs, just figured i'd make it easy on the people who dont really know these engines
Its a diesel, the starters are made to crank for long periods of time. assuming this doesn't have glow plugs, in which the starter WAS probably inadequate to crank for that long.
And the recommendations I'm referring too are on the side panel of the cab of most john Deere tractors. And certain things they say are wrong but others are right.
Plug it in. Use the grid heaters. My truck will start in 2 cranks in that same weather. Somebody needs to steal that truck and give it to somebody who knows what they're doing.
CumminsWorks Depends on the starter. Some manu's recommend up to 60 seconds to prime the fuel system after changing the fuel filter. The starter didnt have a lot of load on it near the end where the engine was over-spinning it, but yeah.. he was a bit tough on it.
Ideling a cold diesel is harder on it then speeding the engine to about 1500rpm's to warm it on up. Most 7.3idi engines idle too low from the factory anyway and dont get the propper amount of oil up to the heads, we always turned the idle up as soon as we bought one, just to extend the engine life. Until you kids really know a few things about these engines you should just keep quiet.
Hey 96,98 (12 valves),99,02 (VP-44 24 valves) owner here. I would recommend not putting your starter through hell and hook up a block heater. I would NEVER do that to my truck. There's a reason. I'm not retarted. Oooooo you guys made smoke. I made 605hp on the dyno last week. Tell me what's more impressive.
@CopeCowboy0267 my mistake the glow plugs are in the intake area on the cummis .....we put ether in our 6.9 international and strait six Detroit in our front end loader
And no it doesn't kill the starter...they were made for that... and with the high h.p. the 12v's don't like to stay running after just being started in the cold. You have to give them a couple pumps of the accelerator to keep it going. If he was sitting there on it for a long time yeah that's bad. What he did....not so bad
"let her warm up"??? Up im sure they make block heaters for this reason so the engine is some what warm when you start it. And when the engine knocks that bad im sure it loves all that revving most likely with out any oil in the heads yet.
what to haul your toys? if your not driving more than 15,000 miles a year or towing heavily or on a daily bases a diesel truck is a waste of money unless you are going to keep it till body rusts out
If you're having that much difficulty starting you need to re-cycle the glow plugs again, if not more than once. Instead of beating on it and staying on the starter like an idiot. Poor old cummins
@IndianaRedneckUSA ya i guess to some people haha i just feel bad for that starter and the engine needs someone who knows what theyre doing behind the wheel
everyone on here is saying to not rev a cold diesel. so im guessing that its probably not a good idea to rev a cold diesel. but thats just a guess, we abviously dont know shit about diesels hahahaha
Jesus, mine cranks up without even cycling the grid heaters down to about 25 degrees. Below that and I'll cycle the grid heaters once and she fires right up. Very rarely do I need to plug mine in. Something's gotta be wrong with that truck, a mechanical 12 valve should start quickly in the cold.
Revving an ice cold diesel is always a great idea. I'm glad to you see you guys follow that recommendation.
I always cover my engine with a blanket before bed so it stays warm and cozy. Makes it easier to start in the mornin
That actually helps??
+DirtyJDiesel No idiot
lol
Just seeing this now but it was a joke lol
Gotta keep it indoors lmao
I like how everyone complains about him revving the engine when all he did was pump the pedal three times.
yeah that's great on a cold diesel to crank on it as soon as it starts, o yeah and Im pretty sure the term rolling coal is used when it is running down the road with black smoke comin out, not grey,white and black when your trying to burn up your starter
he is telling the truth rolling coal is not when u starting it up with grey smoke cause its cold. rolling coal like he said is when is been started and its blowing pure black smoke.
I agree. Those city boys just make vanity trucks. Real trucks work. They feed families. They die in fields, not supermarket parking lots.
I just did a head gasket on a 12v and it didnt cost 6 grand. It actually cost about $135 and 6 hours time. Every time I cold start, I will hold jsut a c hairs worth of throttle, forcing it to idle at 600rpm when it would otherwise not be able to idle. As soon as I see a full 40psi of oil pressure, I will bring it to 1000 rpm for about 30 seconds and it can then idle by itself until its warm.
ur diver side stack looks like it crooked or leaning its bugging me
Rule one on cold start never rev the motor up
on the cummins with the intake heater instead of glow plugs, isn't the cold start procedure to hold throttle at half way until it starts and then for 3-5 seconds after that? I'm not sure if the gen 1 or 2 are like that but normally it would say on the visor for starting procedure. I could be wrong....
My soul 😨
No holding the throttle
Best part is that it's a nice peaceful neighborhood hahah
That's a very good way to mess up the starter
Then how do you expect it to start?
+joshua felty so remove the injectors, then install glow plugs?
+joshua felty cummins has a grid heater know your facts
Ya no shit lol 😆
my truck has 2 block heaters 1 on each side and a battery warmer and a interior 1200 watt heater all for the -45c canadian winters
overkill much? Course anything less than overkill is an under achievement...... Never had any issues starting my trucks in the cold, although at -45 I'd probably just stay home for the day. lol
my dads 97 cummins sat for 3 months during the winter without being started once.cycled the key twice and it fired up first try using one battery
I would put new spark plugs in that thing
Well good luck doing that, diesels don't have spark plugs...
MrZappy101
maybe its the coil packs...
Logan Adams once again good luck they don't have coil packs either.
michael goodwin
Can you take a joke??
nope!!
He's like "rolling coal" funny thing is it was mostly white smoke
@doctabuttah1 just so you know it isn't ruining oil. White smoke is from the engine not being at operating temp causing the engine not to burn the fuel fully because the combustion chamber isn't at operating temp...
Siu Andy - I have an 89 dodge diesel, and once had a 90 set up the same way and never plugged them in and as long as they had a good battery, I never plugged them in and they always started, but they weren't fueled like this particular video however.
If I have a diesel turbo, I must plug it in during winter no matter what. When you start the engine, if it did not fire up in the first place after you crank it for 10 sec, you should let the starter rest at least 15 sec, you have no idea how hot the starter is when starting up the engine especially with a lot of resistance in the circuit in low temperature. You didn't let the engine warm up and rev it, it is simply just dumb. You should at least let the engine idle for 3 minutes before you drive it…You can give me shit but it is all I gonna to say.
Agreed. AVOID REVVING a cold engine; it'll cause instant wear & tear.
***** This guys does not deserve to have a 1st gen cummins diesel, I wouldn't give a shit if he owned a Ford diesel.
Siu Andy Hehe. Neither would I.
Fire hazard
Oil leaks
Rubber
Disintegrates :D
hayden ingram
Funny how Fords seem to get there sooner than any of the rest, huh?
if you want to start shit about dodge gas motors im game because they are hands down the best boat anchors around ill give you that. they are all just about in the junkyard the hemi isnt worth a flip neither are the trans.
It's supposed to have a grid heater,it's the same purpose as glowplugs,but for air.
This thing should start immediatly like a well tuned diesel engine does.
Starters are not made to run long whatever the engine.they heat up very quick seen their huge energy consomption.
slow starting engines are improperly tuned,worn out or too cold.
some people delete the grid heater or his is not working
nothin like friggen givener on the bearings with low to no oil pressure. thats the problem with diesels in the cold. block heater or reduce life and cranker cold
just cuz shes blows black dont mean shes broken LONG LIVE CUMMINS
I wonder how much HP the boost gauge adds? But seriously, nice cold start!
this is what happens kids when you turn your fuel up and put some big injectors in it. it will never start right again in cold weather too much fuel.
Fuck injectors all I need is a straight pipe
+yamaha rider02 whats the most horsepower you could get out of a 5.9 12 valve? all i know is i can get around 4-500 hp out of my small block 350
Not really tbh the extra fuel doesn't help much but what really kills cold starts is advanced timing of you have a shit ton of timing it will not start
hayden ingram way too rich of a mixture
thats what i said
Plug the poor thing in!!
So bad ass.................. I want a cummins so bad even of that year :( I just have a gas beast but it's not the same!!!
Old first gen 12 valves best cummins ever. I have first and second gen, second gen stays parked mostly
when you first start somthing thats cold you dont punch the shit out of it good way to fuck somthing up
wow thats hard starting, must be why they made block heaters
If its still misfiring leave it be. the issue of bad vibration will amplify at higher RPMs if its misfiring. If its firing smooth then it's ok to idle higher. But misfires cause bad vibrations that can hurt the motor.
Technically the faster you get the engine up to temp....the less wear and tear ( cylinder washdown ) I never let my diesel's idle on a cold mornin, get in it and go.
Certified International diesel tech.....
Give her some go pedal to get her started!! 'Course it sounds like ur muffler bearings are pretty much toast...
Your starter hates you. Otherwise cool ass vid, i got a 89 dosent start nearly as hard but then again its all stock
how much hp and torque does she have? i want a first gen but am wondering how much hp i could get out of one without breaking the bank
John Deere tells us to idle at 1200-1400 when it's cold. It's easier on bearings too because your motor can hurt itself by shaking from idling to low and not being smooth. But keep the speed steady don't just slam the throttle down. If it's still too cold to rev don't push it
@sittnerwresling Wrong, the cummins uses an intake heater, heats the air, no glow plugs
@Choochlyman I have a 1990 all original that will start first crank at -30 without being plugged in. Was my Dad's in Montana. Sweet old Diesel!!
come on V-8 mack motors were the tits! 500hp back in the late 80's way ahead of their time.
i wish all the people on here who do cold start videos on their diesels that their engines blow up,interesting how all trucks have block heaters and you would think that hydro costs millions not to mention what it does to your engine starting it cold and then on top of it being a hero and reving the engine because the smoke is cool some people need a good back hand
Ok, I can admit when I'm wrong. I'm going off the fact that the International 4300s I drive for work (that don't have glow plugs) have to be cranked for a good 45 seconds to start in the winter. And that's how I was briefed to do it.
mine never has problems starting and it gets pretty cold up here. it isn't good for your turbo revving it before the oil gets to it.
Cumminaparts just hate the cold. Screw em I need to be able to get in my truck and go not take ages starting it.
Ben Denard lol...
+Ben Denard That's what Toyota diesels are good for...
Right! Very good, i was talking about the block (grid) heater, only sissy pickups have glowplugs, just figured i'd make it easy on the people who dont really know these engines
Dont rev cold engines it s wear the engeine dow olmost same as you driving the car 10.000 kilometers evrey time you rev cold engines
Daniel Habberstad bullshit he wasn't even revving it that high
Its a diesel, the starters are made to crank for long periods of time. assuming this doesn't have glow plugs, in which the starter WAS probably inadequate to crank for that long.
And the recommendations I'm referring too are on the side panel of the cab of most john Deere tractors. And certain things they say are wrong but others are right.
Plug it in.
Use the grid heaters.
My truck will start in 2 cranks in that same weather.
Somebody needs to steal that truck and give it to somebody who knows what they're doing.
use the block heater 3 hrs of plugin time makes for a quick start
Bad ass cummins dude, I love those!
Hmm. If that's how you start it every morning I have no sympathy for you when you end up with a cracked block.
how many starters do you go through?!!!
diesel starters are a lot tougher then normal ones
Billy Barcus Yes they are, but they also weren't designed for 50 seconds of straight cranking either.
CumminsWorks correct i also agree that he cranked it a little too long.
CumminsWorks Depends on the starter. Some manu's recommend up to 60 seconds to prime the fuel system after changing the fuel filter. The starter didnt have a lot of load on it near the end where the engine was over-spinning it, but yeah.. he was a bit tough on it.
Especially once you get that ranch hand bumper on your truck. itll be really pretty haha you love pretty trucks dont you
I own one.....your not gonna fool me, my 94 starts right away in -20 degrees celsius. have fun with the injectors on that duramax of yours :)
Oh nice cranking and pumping. I'd love to hear that in person. I bet you can really smell the diesel fuel too
Holy shit must your neighbors hate you...but thats badass.
Damn plug that thing up, that hell on that motor
the city boys are just buying all of the decent cummins out their and leave the shit one for us.
Ideling a cold diesel is harder on it then speeding the engine to about 1500rpm's to warm it on up. Most 7.3idi engines idle too low from the factory anyway and dont get the propper amount of oil up to the heads, we always turned the idle up as soon as we bought one, just to extend the engine life. Until you kids really know a few things about these engines you should just keep quiet.
Thats how have to start a diesel in the cold... may not keep reving like he did but u do have to clear it out or it wont stay runing
Hey 96,98 (12 valves),99,02 (VP-44 24 valves) owner here. I would recommend not putting your starter through hell and hook up a block heater. I would NEVER do that to my truck. There's a reason. I'm not retarted. Oooooo you guys made smoke. I made 605hp on the dyno last week. Tell me what's more impressive.
@CopeCowboy0267 my mistake the glow plugs are in the intake area on the cummis .....we put ether in our 6.9 international and strait six Detroit in our front end loader
That's how my neighbor blew his crank bearing on his gen one was by hopping in and taking right off when it was zero degrees every morning.
I used to roll coal then i grew up......
Cameron McPeak now you're back in diapers and in a nursing home
Cameron McPeak And took an arrow to the knee?
Using the block heater isn't such a bad idea you know
In cold weather it's good to heat it 3 times
I'll bet your neighbors just love you!!!! lol..
looks like your going to need a new starter after that
Poor freaking truck...
@DevinSchaefer use John Deere ether not near as bad for cylinder and pistons as most brands.
And no it doesn't kill the starter...they were made for that... and with the high h.p. the 12v's don't like to stay running after just being started in the cold. You have to give them a couple pumps of the accelerator to keep it going. If he was sitting there on it for a long time yeah that's bad. What he did....not so bad
damn im glad you notice that shit too, it pisses me the fuck off.
Nothing like the nice smell of diesel smoke, all that smoke screams power. Very nice smoke sure beats a hybrid.
neighborhood is to nice for that pile
Truck is to nice for the neighborhood.
"let her warm up"??? Up im sure they make block heaters for this reason so the engine is some what warm when you start it. And when the engine knocks that bad im sure it loves all that revving most likely with out any oil in the heads yet.
The injectors are rated to increase power by 100hp.
Idk why the sight of smoke coming out stacks make me happy...
hx35 aka stock holset turbo lol i think the 35 part stands for how big the compressor wheel is aka 35 mm compressor wheel i think
Nice truck
would love to have that truck for the farm and to pull on weekends
Nice vid man
@raremountainbear intake grid heater it serves the same function.
what to haul your toys? if your not driving more than 15,000 miles a year or towing heavily or on a daily bases a diesel truck is a waste of money unless you are going to keep it till body rusts out
they didnt on 89-93 models, its a 1990 model, it came stock with an h1c
Diesels are so good for the enviroment with all that smoke. Lets just burn tires to
PODs are 50hp injectors from what I understand
Those boost gauges are what did it. Couldn’t handle the extra HP
Take the grid heaters out and giver with the ether. Problem solveded
Awaken the beast!!!!! I love it
If you're having that much difficulty starting you need to re-cycle the glow plugs again, if not more than once. Instead of beating on it and staying on the starter like an idiot. Poor old cummins
@IndianaRedneckUSA ya i guess to some people haha i just feel bad for that starter and the engine needs someone who knows what theyre doing behind the wheel
She told me he didnt make it cause he bent his crank shaft on his way over ;)
Dont rev a cold diesel!
+Gupham you should rev it until the idle is normal
No! Thats how you crack blocks! Dont ever rev a cold disel!
Gupham been doing that for over a year in my 6.5 no problems, I only raise the idle for a bit until the idle is normal
Your lucky then, I drive tractors, you dont rev them cold!
everyone on here is saying to not rev a cold diesel. so im guessing that its probably not a good idea to rev a cold diesel. but thats just a guess, we abviously dont know shit about diesels hahahaha
his truck let do what he wants with it he,s paying for it
When a diesel is just started do not rev the motor its bad for it, plus use the damn heater grid, it's there for a reason
you should just park the beast in the garage for the winter
get that thing programed a bit more and u could fill a dam intersection with smoke but like the truck
Circ heater and oil pan heater and a new battery ,,,, golden with a 2 hour timer before school/work.
do you not have heater plugs???
Jesus, mine cranks up without even cycling the grid heaters down to about 25 degrees. Below that and I'll cycle the grid heaters once and she fires right up. Very rarely do I need to plug mine in. Something's gotta be wrong with that truck, a mechanical 12 valve should start quickly in the cold.
Them injectors won't last long revving it like that when it's cold buddy.
who cares about the smoke when you gotta go get the groceries lol
Well buy a 7.3L Powerstroke all those city boys are going for the 6.0L so I bought the dinosaur & I'm very happy with my buy
your stacks are crookeder than hell man