Old Composer Reacts to Metal Gear BOSS FIGHT SONGS Video Games OST Reaction Session from Twitch
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0:00 - Intro
0:28 - Rules of Nature
5:40 - I'm My Own Master Now
10:49 - Stranger I Remain
15:20 - Hot Wind Blowing
20:35 - Stains of Time
26:10 - Red Sun
33:00 - The Only Thing I Know for Real
38:40 - Collective Consciousness
42:20 - It Has to Be This Way
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I think the chat doesn’t realize that these songs are built to tell the story of the characters, rather than just being lyrics that exist to exist
They are there to tell the story of the boss itself as you fight. Which i think is extremely clever way of telling a story.
yeah really pissed me off how they said ¨sounds like 2000s rock music¨
Like, what do you expect IT LITERALLY IS 2000s ROCK MUSIC the hell did they want? opera?
@@SpecterNeverSpectator So why are you getting angry at that comment then?
They made a true affirmation and you are here whining about it for some reason... lol
Get off the internet my dude.
Yeah I don't think most of chat has played it and some of them instantly started hating on it as soon as a few words were said for vocals
@@Jonathan-fw6ty ok. J o n a t h a n .
Me showing a friend the OST of Metal Gear Rising, when Rules of Nature kicks in:
- My friend: That's a quite dope song, from which boss is it?
- Me: It's from the tutorial
How’d the conversation go after that?
My friend told me the same thing, and I shut up and just bought the game lol
@@TheBlackestWhiteGuy honestly the BEST tutorial boss makes you feel like a badass from the get go and sets up your expectations. Then when you "lose" to Sam the first time it sets up the heights Raiden will have to climb
And it shows that what was once the most powerful weapon in the world during the 80's, 90's and 2000's is obsolete to soldiers in the 2010's
That's a tutorial 🤣
that one guy in the chat,
the lyrics do have sense
they are literally telling the story of a boss you are fighting
Yea Id like to see him tell the story of the antagonist in a videogame.
What did he say
bullshit@@d-boi9785
The reason why these songs seem like they're cut short is pretty simple: They are pretty short. However, the way they work is that parts of them loop over and over. For instance, the vocals usually only start once you've made enough progress on a boss to force them into their second phase. So these seem pretty short now, but in a playthrough of the game you will spend quite a while listening to them as you try to figure out each boss and you might have been at it for half an hour or more before you hear the vocals for the first time, making it a very cathartic experience.
Half an hour??? The bosses are tough but only Sam and Armstrong authentically killed me
@@biglion3179on normal? There are higher difficulties beyond that, hard, very hard all the way up to Revengence which basically 1 shot kills you for any damage taken 😂
@@luckytanuki5449 i still haven’t got past Armstrong with a shirt on revengeance
@@Tufflewithyourballs183 and you still haven't touched a woman that wasn't your mother 🤷.
@Lucky Tanuki as someone who no damaged every boss on revengeance difficulty (except sundowner), true
Edit: I finally beat Sundowner with no damage
This is something you could not get because you haven't played the games: I cannot understate the emotional impact these songs have. Shouting RULES OF NATURE every time during the highlight of the bossfight is ingrained in my being. So whenever I hear that part I'm brought back to the game. It's a very important part of the experience.
Stop that blade!
That loud thunk when you parry the blade wakes something in me.
YES, YES! SPLIT IT WIDE OPEN!
I mean if you dont end up screaming "RULES OF NATURE!" at the top of your lungs when you hit the quick time event to lift MG Ray your not playing MGR:R right
this game and its soundtrack are great. unfortunately MG Ray exists only to once again be worfed/beaten. too bad, coolest metal gear. IMO. haha.
By the way, if you didn't know, this game was pretty much the composer's first experience writing metal music outside of a few individual tracks!
Edit: Damn, chat RIPPED INTO this soundtrack for some reason. In my experience, literally everyone I've talked to/seen loves the whole thing.
Majority of the mean-spirited chat comments were all from the same 2 guys, though. Most of the people there weren't that angry
Yea, chat looks like a bunch of snobs, seeing this for first time
Any other stream chat always sings lyrics and vibing
Unfortunately metal fans are elitist dicks. It's why I hate to tell people I like metal lol
You'll notice a lot of "it's popular, so I don't like it" sentiment
Damn, if only Twitch chat had any worth or merit whatsoever and wasn't filled with soulless homunculi who will parrot whatever they think (and i use this word lightly) gets them the most attention and validation form their parasocial pretend friend. Then i might start to get worried.
@@PesteringJester most people these days don’t have good taste. They just listen to the same boring ass mumble rap about killing and fucking and money or whatever.
Yo Geebz! Thx for reacting/reviewing the music for our game and glad you dug it ;) Hope you are well! Jamie
Wow man what a small world.I did look at the name and I was wondering if it was the same from back in the day. Reach out to me on the email address in? My about page. Would love to catch up and maybe even do a Podcast about the process. You go through for video games. Aloha.
You all did some brilliant work!
Hi Jamie! Massive fan!
Holy shit! Theres a non-zero chance you might see my comment telling you this soundtrack absolutely blew me away. Red Sun and The Hot Wind Blowing absolutely blew my mind. You and Mick live rent free in my head on long rides to drill and likely an upcoming deployment.
Outstanding work sir!
-some soldier dude
@@sirslam2414 I saw it and thank you good sir!
i feel like this OST should be listened to while looking at the footage of the fight itself,
Yeah. It's much better with the context of the fight. that may be because they were ment to play during the fight and the vocals play depending on how good you're doing in the fight. Rules of Nature gets yelled at you when lifting MG Ray and that gets you to feel like a badass instantly.
@@willhornsby206 Raiden! Stop that blade!
@@bogeyboiplays4580 RULES OF NATUREEEEEE
@@Vito_palmito_ AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP
@@arisako5625 WITH THIER LIFES ON THE LINE
Some background information on the bosses in the game:
Boss 1: Metal Gear Ray
He appeared in the previous games and was a much bigger challenge then. In previous games, you had to use missile launchers and such to kill them.
In this game, it’s the tutorial boss. You cut him in half with a katana in a couple of minutes from starting the game.
This is used to show that the protagonist of the game is much stronger than he was before.
Boss 2: Bladewolf
After killing MG ray and getting beaten up by a katana wielding Brazilian (don’t question it) the protagonist got a new cybernetic body and is off to find his next victim. This victim is bladewolf.
I’m not going to go into many details about the fight itself, as it is pretty straightforward: you cut him with a sword before he cuts you with a chainsaw, and you also turn the reinforcements he summons into dust by the same occasion.
When you finally cut him to bits, somewhere offscreen he gets rebuilt and now fights on your side in some missions, not because he is forced to, but because he wants to.
This is supposed to serve as a lesson about freedom and stuff, but in reality it’s an introduction to cutting all the following bosses into a million pieces because that’s something you can (and should) do.
Boss 3: Mistral
She is a mercenary fighting for the private military company you have been going after due to plot.
She has a bit of background information on her being an abusive owner for bladewolf, but more on that later.
She also has one of the more … how to put it… interesting models in the game. The devs clearly were having fun designing her. And all the other bosses as well, but her mostly.
Boss 4: Khamsin.
He is a boss introduced in a later (free) DLC. He is a disabled man in a mech-suit. He has a chainsaw axe and his whole thing is that he’s useless.
What I mean is that he achieves nothing, he has no character ark, even his coworkers (people like Mistral) hate him.
So remember when I said that Mistral was an abuse owner to Bladewolf? Well, over the course of the DLC she essentially gets Bladewolf to kill Khamsin.
Trust me, it is way better done/explained in the game.
Boss 4: Monsoon.
To sum up Monsoon’s story, I can only really say one thing: he is insane. Not in the **haha I’m going to kill all humans I come across because that’s the writer’s will** kinda way but in the he sais weird stuff that surprisingly makes a lot of sense when you think about it way too much.
For the fight itself, it’s fun to watch other people struggle to figure him out.
In other terms, his “powers” are all about one thing: magnets.
What that means in practice is:
1. To quote famous CZcamsr Max0r: his preferred method of dodging is self bisection
2. He can throw heavy chunks of metal at from afar.
3. To actually deal damage to him, you either have to either
A. Parry his attacks, so you can hit him in the face,
B. Throw an EMP grenade at him, allowing you to do the same thing as mentioned prior.
When he only has a sliver of health remaining, he throws an obelisk at you, and you run op it’s side and cut him in a million pieces.
Here’s a quote from him I think sums up his character pretty well:
“Free will is a myth! Religion is a joke!
We’re all pawns controlled by something greater:
Memes: the dna of the soul!”
Boss 6 I think : Sundowner
This boss is, well, even more insane than Monsoon. He likes war, to kill, and to commit war crimes.
His fight goes like this:
You fight him on top of a building.
He has a sword, you have your trusty katana by your side, and you fight.
Except, the boss has a truck up his sleeve, or should say back, because all of a sudden, he pulls out 6 shield that if you touch you explode, losing quite a bit of health.
Phase 2 begins when you cut his shields off. He actually tries (and fails) to deal damage to you.
When you deal all the damage to leave him on sliver of health, he falls of the roof, catches the bottom side oh a helicopter, and uses a unmanned assault bird to knock you off the building as well. What follows is a sequence of you falling and flying back up the side of the building on the bird while piloting it with your sword.
You then throw the bird at the helicopter, making it explode, and knocking sundowner towards you, where you can finally cut him into a thousand pieces.
Boss 7: Jetstream Sam
He has a history of taking down a drug cartel all by himself and of having his own DLC, he is also the tall Brazilian katana wielding and ass kicking man from earlier.
He has a red sword, a will to leave, the best smile in the franchise and next to no cybernetic augmentations.
He is here to do two things, cut you with his sword, or punch you with his fist if you disarm him.
He is a tough fight, as he can do pretty much the same things as you, and it all really just comes down to the skill of the player.
Boss 8: Metal Gear Excelsus.
A massive mech with a US senator inside of it.
Need I say more.
It’s theme, Collective Consciousness also fits perfectly with Mariah Carey (did I spell that right)’s “all I want for Christmas is you”.
Look it up. I don’t suggest reacting to it, even thought it would be neat, but listening to it at least once is a must.
Boss 9: Senator Armstrong.
Remember the US senator inside MG Excelsus? It’s him.
He is even more dangerous outside the mech.
Some of his iconic lines include:
“Nano-machines, son”;
“I do need capital. And votes. Wanna know why? "I have a dream." That one day, every person in this nation will control their OWN destiny. A land of the TRULY free, dammit. A nation of ACTION, not words. Ruled by STRENGTH, not committee. Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where power and justice are back where they belong: in the hands of the people! Where every man is free to think -- to act -- for himself! Fuck all these limp-dick lawyers and chicken-shit bureaucrats. Fuck this 24/7 Internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit. Fuck "American pride". Fuck the media! Fuck all of it! America is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it -- we need to pull it out by the roots. WIpe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged, and the strongest will thrive -- free to live as they see fit, they will make America GREAT AGAIN!”
“You still don't get it. I'm using war as a business to get elected... so I can end war as a business! In my new America, people will die and kill for what they BELIEVE! Not for money, not for oil! Not for what they're told is right. Every man will be free to fight his own wars!”
That’s about it.
Hope you enjoyed this read, that was about 6700 symbols long.
My CZcams crashed while writing this. Had to restart once.
edit: a lot of spelling corrections.
Also, someone in the comments to this comment argued that monsoon and sundowner are not insane, and I agree with that person, so go read their comment too.
Based
Jesus the bible of the BASED
I ain't reading allat
You're right about all of this, except that Sundowner and Monsoon aren't insane. Not strictly speaking anyway.
Sundowner's made peace with himself. He loves war and battle and he's good at it. He's a predator whose sole goal is to fight. That's it. He doesn't hide behind the veil of fakeness like most villains. He's open about it and he's taunting Raiden because of it, because Raiden is much MUCH worse than him and Sundowner knows it.
Monsoon isn't crazy either. Like Sundowner, he's open about his views on social darwinism and how we don't "evolve" as such, but we just adapt to our surroundings by being controlled in some way. By our genetics, our "meme". He pretty much lifts Liquid's rant about it in MGS 1, almost word for word in some parts.
Bros comment is as long as the metal gears blade
33:14 What the guy in the chat said is absolutely correct. These songs are MUCH better when you're actually playing the game as they start to buildup the more you hit your enemy ect. Kinda like how "RULES OF NATURE" plays as you catch Metal gear ray's sword or how "AND IT WILL COME LIKE A FLOOD OF PAIN" plays as monsoon jumps down and does the throw attack thing
Jesus, what was up with the same like, 2 people in chat who just felt the need to crap all over the vibe by saying the same 3 negative comments every 10 minutes? We’re all here to have a good time, no need to bring the mood down, guys! 😅
Ignore chat for maximum enjoyment of the video.
Too late I'm triggered
god some of the guys in the stream chat sound like they would be really fun at parties.
Fr
especially the guy with the shit taste that said the only thing I know for real was better without the singing
@@ironboy3245he didnt even play the game thats the problem. Also has shit taste I'd say
@@ironboy3245 The flute goes hard come on
saw some comments about the lyrics. they are a bit cheesy, but they kick in right when the boss is about to die ( most of the time ) which makes it feel awesome
edit: someone mentioned it
The lyrics kick in during the second phase because that's when the boss starts to take Jack seriously as an opponent. The only time that doesn't happen is with Sam, as he's taking Raiden seriously right from the start of the fight.
@@elphiefanful and armstrongs final battle if i remember correctly
edit again: i dont think the short fights before the last one count as phases but maybe for some they do
It's better to not take the lyrics seriously and just have fun with it. The game is also pretty funny. It makes more sense that way.
Lyrics: Convey how a guy linked to a giant mech is a soldier who's doing the dirty work others won't do, comparing that to a buffalo who blindly follows others and does it without questioning it, while painting a whole scenery of this dessert in which this said soldier is making that dirty work happen, all while pumping you up with hard-to-compose fast instrumentals
People: "It's so cheesy lol, reminds me of puberty time, i'd sing something like that at a campfire".
I guess that's just how people who are led to believe emotions are bad think, they see something that isn't "on surface" level of lyrics or lack of them, something that is supposed to express a character and his feelings, and just automatically dislike it, linking it to emotional events of their lifes like puberty or... camping...?
Yeah i'm not getting where they'd get the camping part, i'd like to see that song they sang at a camp that was like a synth-metal lyrical character theme...
@@alpha-tomahawk532 These things aren't mutually exclusive. The lyrics can be both gloriously cheesy *and* meaningful to the characters and story. It's an absolutely brilliant soundtrack because of how well it fits the context of the game, which is also over-the-top cheese turned up to 11. Sure, the subject matter is serious and fairly dark, but the tone is over-the-top and goofy as hell. I mean, bro shows up to one mission wearing a sombrero. I think what's so great about the game is that neither of those elements take away from the other. It's able to be a serious story about a former child soldier and mercenary coming to terms with himself and what he seeks to get out of what he does, and also be campy as hell. Which makes it an especially suited spinoff of Metal Gear Solid as well, given that series' penchant for expressing some really high concept ideas one moment, and the next having you fighting a flamboyant vampire man who walks on water. It's that exact combination and juxtaposition of tone and subject matter that's perfectly reflected in the soundtrack. Also, I think the association with puberty comes from the fact that the musical style of the soundtrack is very heavily influenced by 2000s hard rock and metal, which was a time when many of the people who played the game were in adolescence. I wouldn't read too much into it.
No way the entire chat just piled on hot wind blowing. I think every track in the entire game is fantastic almost equally
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Song is absolute fire which makes it so much worse that the only place to listen is on youtube
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@@wolffengnm3694SoundCloud exists if you mean that it's not on itunes or Spotify
Shoutout to the one person in the chat who doesn't know that Buffalo are, indeed, herd animals.
dude legitimately had the worst takes i've ever heard on a game ost in my life
Besides that one time when someone called Bury the Light "very generic" and people defending it very "soy-inducing" but I digress.
Whenever i hear RED SUN i really cannot help wanting to scream "IM F***ING INVINCIBLE"
KIDS ARE CRUEL JACK ☝️🤓
@@tfcbioshock (Now acticating woman deflectors) AND I LOVE MIN-
18:48 It sounding really homogenous and basic without guitar is ENTIRELY the point and I’m glad you picked up on it. Khamsin, the character the song’s about, is basically just a training dummy. He’s supposed to be a faceless soldier to kill and out of every boss, he has the least identity. It’s poetic that way
Everything he was saying in the Khamsin section just makes sense for his character. It shows how well the composers conveyed the character through the track.
@@kyrroti9921 I think he also didn't really like the "i know what i've been told" sound effect since he doesn't know that its supposed to be Bladewolf and khamsin singing together
@@xsh4dw I never thought of it that way. Nice catch.
Chat is a bunch of haters. They don't understand the greatness of Christopherson.
You're missing out how this music is made specifically and how it works with the fights in the game
yeah i wish he would watch the scene's where the music takes place, specifically in action games. this game's music takes the game up 10 fold, easily. blocking an attack, or dodging at the right moment during the songs makes the action almost pop of screen and you're there.
one of the reasons why i especially like marcomeatball's way of doing things, he listens to the pieces as he's playing the game, getting to understand the full context behind it so he doesn't miss out on anything (unless he also has to look more into the lore to get a full understanding, but that's excusable)
@@possibly_ben Found his it has to be this way video, lets see how he does it.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 eh, he doesn't do it everytime, it's more like if a game's ost is suggested enough, he goes and plays it
@@possibly_ben I see.
The Stains of Time and Stranger I Remain are my all time favourites from this ost.
I feel like A Stranger I Remain is really underrated. That, and Collective Consciousness
@Cosmo Reverb yeah, Collective Consciousness is my personal favorite.
@@apokemontrainer2873 it's a case of every song being so fucking good that picking a favourite is a matter of personal preference. Iz a hard choice
@@cosmoreverb3943 Collective is literally the only song I don't like. Not that I dislike it, but I have so much PTSD fighting that damn excelcus lol.
I love how someone said that he pays More attention to the mix rather than lyrics when the lyrics are the important part of these songs in particular, being the story of the boss you fight
His only take on Khamsin's theme was calling it "glam rock". I instantly became irrationally angry and closed the video.
"The lyrics in these songs are so cheesy! Come on, guys, a game about a cyborg ninja carving giant robots in half with a samurai sword alongside his chainsaw-wielding robot dog companion trying to save kids' brains from being used to coordinate military equipment needs to be taken seriously! That Senator just kicked a guy like a football and a non-existent crowd cheered! C'est magnifique! If only the lyrics could match such raw artistry!"
"was good until the singing started" bruh The Only Thing I Know For Real is amazing
Let's dance!
Thank you! That comment especially made me mad
most intelligent twitch chat
Sorta the problem with listening to these songs without playing the game is you miss out on seeing the characters these songs belong to, which puts the lyrics in context. For example, Sam's theme, "The Only Thing I Know For Real" is about how Sam has lost his true motivation to fight and is now fighting just to fight. Blade Wolf's theme, "I'm My Own Master Now", is about Wolf's desire to be free from the metaphorical chains his makers have set in place, more specifically, if he were to disobey any orders, his memory would be entirely wiped. All of the boss themes are like this, "The Stains of Time" is nihilistic and edgy just like Monsoon is, "Rules of Nature" is about a predator on the verge of extinction, just like Metal Gear Ray, "The Hot Wind Blowing" is about a soldier brainwashed by propaganda into believing what he's doing is bringing freedom, when all it's doing is instilling violence. Sadly without playing the game you don't get any of this context, and you end up with a Twitch Chat with a collective IQ lower than the room temperature of fucking Alaska. Except for the few people in the chat who actually played the game. shoutouts to you lol.
This guy gets it
As an Alaskan and someone with 400 hours on MGR, I can confirm that we had a black president once, before I killed him
@@jakkakasunset5485 That's a nice argument, Senator. Why don't you back it up with a source.
@@darkbooger my source is that I made it the fuck up!
When Raiden parry’s a metal gears giant blade with his tiny sword and the “RULES OF NATURE” comes in before he proceeds to throw the metal gear across his shoulder into a building. No other way to experience the track. It exploded my 11 year old brain when I first saw it.
The vocals being mixed in a way that they get drowned out is pseudo-intentional. Not really for removing a distraction this time, it plays into one of the overarching themes: the battle between nature and identity. The clearer and louder the vocals are, the more that character is "solud" in their identity and self image.
34:07 "was good until the singing started" that hurt my soul.
Dude that twitch chat sounds like the biggest metalhead snobs I've ever read.
I've never seen so many negativ comments about mgr's ost before...this chat is wild lmao
Only does Twitch chat has the most unnecessarily critical commentators seen to mankind.
Twitch chat rarely ever has intelligent commentary to give, it's speak first and think later in that environment. He is enjoying them and seemingly knows the context behind the lyrics better than the chat seems to.
@@randyb.9143it lacks intelligent creatures
The lyrics of Collective Consciousness actually perfect fit with the music to All I Want For Christmas is You, I'm not joking.
MaxOr said the same thing
@@gamergaming6604 there are many videos about that song
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"Was good until the singing started."
*B R U H*
Most of your chat never touched the game or watched gameplay and it shows. "It's too on the nose. It's too try hard. The lyrics are cheesy." Etc.
All of these songs are story telling telling devices and the lyrics only play when you progress far enough into the boss fight.
They tell the stories of the bosses and brilliantly I might add. You can understand everything about them as you fight. Everything from their mannerisms to their philosophies. There's a reason why this game's OST is praised.
It's kind of like Undertale music where if you've never played the game or seen gameplay to really understand the context, then you won't appreciate the song to the fullest. You won't "get it".
Regarding "The Only Thing I Know For Real", specifically to the guy who said the song was good until the singing started, counter point: go F yourself. This song slaps. Better yet, all of these songs slap.
You better believe if I was in that chat I would have been tearing those uncultured people apart, lol
A bit too late for that, but:
0:28 - Rules of Nature
5:40 - I'm My Own Master Now
10:49 - Stranger I Remain
15:20 - Hot Wind Blowing
20:35 - Stains of Time
26:10 - Red Sun
33:00 - The Only Thing I Know for Real
38:40 - Collective Conciousness
42:20 - It Has to Be This Way
Also fuck that chatter that called hot wind blowing the weakest track lol
Thank you so much for that - I forget to that now and then :)
I love how the chat complains about the vocals as if its supposed to be some mainstream radio track. its boss fight theme songs for their backstories in a game about a cyborg ninja soldier, not Ed Sheeran
Reading that chat was absolutely painful 💀
And i see many ppl in CZcams comment section noticed that too.
Actual idiots in chat. I'm not saying because of bias towards the game, it's purely just because they're judging the lyrics without playing the game. Actual. Fucking. Idiots. The lyrics aren't through the entire song, they kick when the boss is around half heatlh which make it unique.
Bruh, my anger when this guy in chat was like "This is the weakest track" to The Hot Wind Blowing. Bro. That shit is a hype fest man ._.
He's not wrong. The original version is weak. If you want to hear a great version of The Hot Wind Blowing that is far superior to the original, listen to Mark Schmidt's cover of it. His cover is mindblowingly better than the original.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 I really didn't care for that cover. I like a lot of Schmidt's others but that one really didn't do it for me.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 honestly, this cover is weak
@@user-tc3sf6em5u No one asked.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 and no one asked you too. What's your point?
Most of the chat just seems off and doesn’t seem to realize the song is trying to tell a story while you are fighting this boss, whose moves and way they think are influenced by their backgrounds. Some of them were very traumatic.
All the boss songs is MGR are amazing
MGR was too ahead of its time, we didn't know it was a masterpiece until we lost it to Konami and their Pachinko :(
Still can’t believe that snake lost against a fucking pachinko machine
@@__TK___ yeah it hurts like hell 😢
This game is not even CLOOOOOSE to being a masterpiece. It's a fun romp and that's all it is.
@@L33PL4Y I dunno bout that one. Definitely up there at the top in my opinion. Definitely beats a shit ton of other triple A games.
@@uboa8060 Good gameplay with absolutely abysmal story/writing/characters in a series known for intricate storytelling, incredible writing, and legendary characters
Do you know what's the problem? Most of people in the chat aren't gamers. Don't sound like gamers at least. There's a HUGE, HUGE difference between VOCALS in game soundtrack and normal pop or metal. It's a much different experience when you play the game. This is why they shit on the songs, if this was my first experience I wouldn't be amazed by many of these much.
MGR has such a great high energy soundtrack. Athough listening to the boss themes is only half the experience, as they dynamically match the gameplay, e.g the Rules of Nature vocals don’t kick in until the very climax of the Metal Ray boss fight.
One of the worst outcomes of a sequel never happening is that we'll probably never see Jamie Christopherson again, at least for a very long time. He only had a couple notable credits before this project, and he's basically dropped off the face of the earth following it. Such a shame with what an incredible job he and the sound team at Platinum did.
The true beauty of this soundtrack that is wholly unique to this game is how the songs are primarily a look into each of the bosses' character and what motivates them. Metal Gear is traditionally a very story heavy series, but with the high-paced action of this spin-off they didn't feel it was right to pack in a bunch of heavy storytelling and exposition. Their solution was to tell you each character's story through the music while you were fighting them.
The intensity of this is further emphasized by how the vocals only kick in once the boss is brought down to the final phase of their fight, only having an instrumental track until you push them to their limit. For Jetstream Sam in particular, his vocal track plays right from the start. However, when you succeed in knocking his sword out of his hand he loses his identity (the sword being the "soul" of a warrior is a very common theme in Japan) and the vocals in his theme stop until he picks it back up. It ties in very nicely with the internal struggle he faces as a character. The use of music in videogames has evolved a lot over the years, but as of yet there's no other game on this Earth that utilizes its soundtrack and ties it into its gameplay and storytelling quite like Metal Gear Rising.
Due to the fact that vocals kick in at emotional moments in Revengeance, it could qualify as a musical.
he literally comented this video 1 day ago lmao
Not only that but the whole game itself is a once in a lifetime thing. I dont think we'll get something this absurd for a very long time. And because videogame developers are cowering in fear trying to appeal to the masses big development companies aren't going to have the guts to make another one of these special games
When the wind is slow and fire's hot!
"I AM FUCKING INVINCIBLE JACK!!"
God mgrr's soundtrack is so good to listen to
When it comes to the mix, the composer has never made a rock/metal ost before this one. It's a miracle that it turned out this well
People being snobby in the chat made me laugh. All of the lyrics touch upon the characters you're fighting along with representing their morality or motivations. The only exception to this is "It Has To Be This Way," which is from the main character of the game, Raiden's, perspective.
(but there are also instrumental versions, and there are mixes out there on youtube that have both. Look up "Metal Gear Rising Maniac Agenda Mix" to hear them)
It's not from Raiden perspective. If it were, then the line "I feel new life will be born beneath the blood-stained sand" doesn't make any sense: it's the senator who sees Raiden as a potential "plan B" as he moves closer and closer to defeat, not the other way around.
@@thosemerc3113 than what about the boss fight at the end of the Sam DLC, it plays collective consciouness, not trying to start a fight, just wondering
@@realwhelan what about it? CC is Armstrong's theme when he still pretended to be Patriot's symphatiser (or a random warmonger if we take Sam's point of view).
I guess it would make sense for them to write another theme for this specific fight, after all I doubt that Sam knew much about Patriots, but it is what it is.
@@thosemerc3113 valid
@@thosemerc3113It's make sense because Raiden is going through a Sea of blood trying to end The wars made Just because profit, business and goddamit capitalism for the people who suffer, are used and killed in this can live their lives again. This is the live been "born beneath the blood-stained sand"
I hate how some of them were saying things like “The lyrics aren’t super clever.” They’re meant to tell the story of the boss that you’re fighting. They wouldn’t get it though because they’ve never played the game.
EXACTLY.
I’m choosing to remain ignorant and completely ignore the chat, seems like it’s the right decision
Never mind looked at chat once and got triggered instantly, man
The chat’s brains are smooth as a Bullet train
Dude in chat be like "yea this is not metal gear music..."
Tell em how you got no clue what Revengeance is
Bro, chat PISSED me off with this one lol
My man made a banger video analyzing the songs, but there was one particular guy in chat who ruined it for me
not to mention someone also said the mix annoyed them
Some of the takes were terrible. I got genuinely angry at some comments. They obviously never played or watched the game, so they flat out don't get it
As a (self-proclaimed) music specialist I can state this soundtrack is:
*a banger*
Fun Fact: The vocalist for "The Hot Wind Blowing" (15:21 in this video), John Bush, is the vocalist of Armored Saint and was at one point the vocalist for Anthrax. So if you thought it sounded kind of 80s-esque, that's probably why!
The 2 snobs in the chat 🤓
1:28 "yea this is not metal gear music..." and is MGR like any Metal Gear game?
''Yeah! This is what nature planned!''
As a cyborg human is fighting a giant skyscraper sized robot in a city.
I highly doubt nature planned any of this lol
Raiden is the predator, the metal gear is his prey
@@paperbagboy3895raiden is a what now
@@EaterOfSoulsV1”Like I Said Jack..”
@@bluarniosan Kids are cruel...
@@scarletcoin5271 "And I love minors"
You have to listen to the Sonic Frontiers boss themes
"Undefeatable"
"Break Through It All"
And "Find Your Flame"
I really don't understand why The Hot Wind Blowing gets so much hate. To me this is the best theme in the game.
Right??? I won’t say it’s the best but it’s my personal favorite.
My personal favourite in fact, listening to it more often than the others. Collective Consciousness is my second fav.
It's not my favourite but it's not bad, every track in MGR:R is great
I don't like the OG mix, but check out Mark Schmidt's cover of The Hot Wind Blowing, and it is far superior to the original, and it's not even close. His version is easily my 2nd favorite right behind The Stains of Time.
really? i mean, it's not my favorite, but it's very good. Didn't know it even got hate
What I saw is that, while chat understood that there was a deeper meaning to the game with its politics and whatnot, they failed to realize what was actually happening. Like that person who believed that Armstrong was war=profit, when he was very much against that. XD
Aside from Armstrong killing a bunch of people and having children's brains implanted into robots, you could sympathize at least with what he's wanting. While his methods are terrible, the main character has done similar things. Killing those that are weaker than himself for causes that he may or may not agree with. So Armstrong's theme really hits what's going on between the 2 characters.
Lol Armstrong literally used war as a business to get elected so he can end war as a business if he wins the presidency
7:00 The lyrics aren' super clever
Comment comming from a "not so super clever"-guy who has not played the game at all lmao
We all universally hate this person
We will not allow him have an opinion if he hasn't played the game
The main purpose of the music is to tell a story
The songs are HIGHLY loved and popular. Then I see Twitch chat in expected fashion being contrarians and irritating bigots. It's very off putting for this kind of content. MGR is also satire on how people don't truly change, and you have to climb your way out. Much like Twitch Chat, refusing to move on from twenty years ago sitting in an echo chamber.
Obviously, there's also a disconnect because almost all of them who are negative sound like they're trapped in Solid 3 and don't know how music that wasn't on the billboard 200 works, or are people who have never played the game and don't comprehend how the music interacts with the gameplay and boss.
Almost all music composers and game audio technicians are blown away by it when they frame it into it's appropriate context, because only Devil May Cry really consistently did something like this (Devils Never Cry from 3, The Time Has Come and Shall Never Surrender from 4, the entire DMC 5 OST, etc.) and everybody else couldn't figure out how to make it function in the medium.
Thank you bro! This sums up the twitch chat perfectly, which reading it as I watched I was like "are we listening to the same music? Or are you having very terrible takes to really good songs that almost anyone can enjoy with or without context?"
“You could just say it’s bad” bruh.
The lyrics to these songs are incredible story telling
the chat keeps commenting on the directness of the lyrics. *They don't play lyrics until the back end of the fight.* For the majority of it you'll be hearing the instrumental until the climax of the battle, and in most scenarios you won't even notice them until you've gotten *really* good at the game because of the amount of attention you need to pay to the combat itself. The story of the characters involved are the mainstay of the lyrics, but the instrumentals can be used to intuit their mentality and motives even if you haven't seen the cutscenes.
What I've recently discovered that blows my mind is that the composer (and singer) of that first song, Rules of Nature, as a solo artist writes and performs country rock music. It definitely caught me off guard but you can tell that Jason is an extremely talented artist! Jason Charles Miller is his full name, as well as the name of his CZcams channel.
The dude who did the Toontown ost did this ost. This was his first time fucking with metal. Well... as we know he fucked around and we found out what happens didn't we? Damn this is a good soundtrack to listen to.
Mad respect for the dude
Most of these lyrics don't play until near the end of a boss fight or during "key" moments in a fight (mainly a phase 2 sort of thing). They all are telling the story of the bosses. One boss in particular doesn't even get his lyrics unless you fulfill certain conditions in the fight, and can be beaten without even hearing them.
Which one is it? I beat the game last week (minus the DLC. Maybe later) and I remember hearing the lyrics in all of them.
@@KingCasual1986 Sundowner. His lyric theme doesn't play until after you break all his shields, but you can still easily kill him without doing so.
That one chatter who constantly talks about the cheesiness like an NPC repeating his line clearly doesn't know a single thing about the game, and it's hilarious
This and Guilty Gear's soundtrack use their music to flesh out their characters and I LOVE IT!!! This shit goes so hard.
Just let him listen to Bury the light
YES!
MOTIVATED
Some of the chats' criticisms were pretty one-dimensional.. really frustrating to read at times
Yeah it really made me grind my teeth to one of the chat members saying that "the lyrics are pretty lazy" it really pissed me off because the lyrics are telling the story of the character or the reasoning behind what they are doing
It's like saying The Great Gatsby is one dimensional.
@@danielmaster8776 rich man
I know the story is like 4 hours long , but I ended up playing 40 only because of the soundtrack..
Glad you reacted to this!~ I love the Metal Gear Rising boss playlist. "Stains Of Time", "Red Sun", "The Only Thing I Know For Real" and "It Has To Be This Way" are my favorites!~ 😇
Lol looking at the chat in which one dude randomly went " nanomchines son "
yeah the ending for metal gear excelsus is huge, its a stadium sized robot and you rip its giant sword arm off and have a sword fight with it, cutting it to several pieces
also the stains of time with monsoon works with it being super fast because in the fight you are getting attacked left right and centre 5 times a second every second, its really fast
also the music is instrumental for most of the fight minus the only thing i know for real and it has to be this way, and when you reach the climax of the fight the lyrics kick in so it makes it sound so awesome
plus the final boss song, it has to be this way, is likely about the main character that you play as and not the final boss at all, which i think is pretty neat
RULES OF NATURE! 🤘🏽🤘🏽
He needs to hear Bury the light.
I love Hot Wind Blowing because of how uniquely simple it is, and how well it portrays the difference between Khamsin and other bosses. Every character in the main game is complex, with hidden quirks and mysteries behind their facade. Each one even if horrible, still has some sanity and genuine criticism to offer to Raiden. But then you get Khamsin, straight forward soldier, who doesn't think for himself and does what he has to do. He doesn't bother himself with ideology, complex worldviews or reasons of why he's doing what he's doing. He just goes there and acts, leaving thought processes to his superiors. However he has somewhat complex view of his consciousness and purity. Even if he has doubts, his conscience is clear, because he's just a tool, a puppet in hands of others, who are to blame. But he bears no blame. And you can feel that in his track. Simple straightforward music and angry, raging chorus, that comes after cold, emotionless verse. Even he atarts to understand how flawed his view of the blame is. You can hear deep rage and anger, that is being supressed by professionalism and a need to adhere to rules of existing hierarchy.
7:48 I think it's ingame mix, that's why vocal really sunk. When I played this game the only part of the song I heard was the chorus.
Monsoon kicking in really made him stop reaching for his drink 3 times. The *GRAVITY* of these tracks is insane
I really wish you could watch the Meti Not The Bad Guy's videos about all the bosses from MGR. He tells you their back story and reasoning. All while using the lyrics from their boss theme to back up the info. And who they relate to Raiden, the character you play as.
And then the entirety of MGR is seen through the music and lyrics of the sound track. It like hearing a story told by a bard. The characters are over the top and simplified. And the music takes that and cranks it up to 11.
Chat doesn't know what they're saying
Regarding your question about the structure: You're listening to the official soundtrack releases. The songs are designed so the first half loops during the fight with or without lyrics (it depends), and then the second verse and outro kick in while you execute the boss.
Regarding genre: I'd classify it as a mix of power and industrial metal.
The story behind each song has such an impact on the players. Just listening to them while fighting the bosses is enough for something great, but knowing the story as you do so makes it unforgettable
For the ending of collective consciousness you rip of a giant robots ants arm and use it to chop its main body into pieces where the final boss comes out and the last track plays
Just read that back and realised how mad it sounds
Rules Of Nature is about how the massive destruction robot Metal Gear Ray is a predator designed solely for the purpose of being the strong preying on the weak. It indeed is very dependent on successfully catching and defeating its prey. Not because it must eat, but because failure will result in it being decommissioned and replaced with a more competent one.
My Own Master Now is about Bladewolf. A robotic canine AI designed for assassination. After being taken apart by Raiden (the player), he actually does become his own master. Until then, he was constantly at the risk of mind erasure and being repurposed for trying to make own decisions.
A Stranger I Remain is about Mistral, a French woman who has traveled through a tough life. She came to find that taking the lives of people who displease her was most pleasing, but she never found purpose. That was however until she teamed up with Desperado and became a Wind Of Destruction, and eventually being hired to carry out the plans of Senator Armstrong. In Desperado, she found purpose. She found a home. She found love. She finally found what she was looking for. A place where she could be without remorse.
The Hot Wind Blowing is about Khamshin. An army veteran missing his legs who decided, instead of a wheelchair, he'd make a massive mech suit to sit in and move around in. This song represents the unknown soldier. The men lost on the battlefield without a nametag and will be lost to history. Khamshin has always been a joke to his fellow members of The Winds Of Destruction. And despite his efforts, after he eventually perishes (Mistral sent an assassin to kill him) he becomes forgotten. Never mentioned by anyone ever again, hence the lyrics: "fulfil our duty, then vanish without a trace". He believed that freedom is something that must be forced upon the people who do not understand it, hence the line "I don't know what I've been told, the wishes of the people can't be controlled". In his final moments, he's desperate to prove that he is significant. He is a Wind Of Destruction. Heck, a lyric even has him cry this statement out loud.
Stains Of Time is about Monsoon, a man who has seen some bad crap. Having barely survived a massacre home in Cambodia, he was rebuilt essentially more metal than man. Through magnetic technology, his new 80% metallic body can split apart to avoid any strike made at him. He has come to accept that pain, suffering, war, sorrow and all things are all trivial. All that matters is what we take from it. Memories that will stay with you and evolve alongside you, shaping who the individual is meant to be.
Red Sun is about Sundowner. A man who truly sees more good in warfare than peace. Things like bringing jobs to communities and creating a common cause. Red Sun is a description of his ideal world.
The Only Thing I Know For Real is about Jetstream Sam. A Brazilian man with a katana and a swagger that can break steel. The song speaks on how he may once have had a motive and known what to fight for, but now all he knows is that he is fighting. The only thing he knows for real is that there WILL be bloodshed. The man in the mirror nods his head, assuring Sam that "Yes, Sam. This is all correct, it's all like you used to do it, so nothing has changed"
It Has To Be This Way is about Senator Armstrong. An American Senator with some crazy ideals. He has a dream for an America where each and every individual is free to fight their own wars for their own ideals, rather than follow barely understandable ideals of politicians who will never fight themselves. A so-called "land of the *truly* free", he calls it. The song is comparing Raiden (the player character) to Armstrong's ideology. We both wanted to spare the people from oppression. And in this case, how can either of us say the other is wrong? We can both agree that violence only breeds violence, and violence has been both of our answer to our obstacles. But in the end, it has to be this way. This is the end, where we must fight, and violence simply must happen.
Loved the analysis!
That "Blood stained saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand" part 🔥🔥🔥
mgs saga songs according to me
action - rules of nature
thrill- snake eater
sadness - heavens divide
feeling of cigar - sins of father ( even though lyrics were good but people listening to woooooooooohooooooooooo)
the end of something - the best is yet to come
angry - red sun
just remembered something - can't say to goodbye to yesterday
talking to someone on bus stand or railway station - It has to be this way
The best way to experience this soundtrack is to watch the boss fights. The songs tell part of the story of the boss that you are fighting, and the lyrics are synched to key parts of each fight.
Something that should be noted is that the composer of these songs had absolutely no experience composing metal music prior to this game if I'm not mistaken. He was far more on the orchestral side of things, and rose to the challenge. These songs are so good, and, as I e seen in at least one comment at this point, each song actually tells you more about someone, whether it's your playable character, the boss you're fighting, or even both in one example.
one thing you really miss by listening this way is the way the game layers the songs. you'll start with only the instrumental, and the game will lead into the chorus with full vocals the moment the final phase begins.
i felt fear when the "Red Sun" lyrics kicked in as sundowner combined his swords into the scissor form we see him execute people with.
The people ripping on the music clearly have never played the game. How they gonna complain about the lyrics being "too literal" when thats the whole goddamn point
i've been devouring both of your channels lately, thanks for the hard work! would be really stoked to hear your reactions and insights about the song Vinushka or Tousei (the live version for both songs are really powerful) by the japanese metal band Dir en Grey!!
Watching the battles with the music adds much more to it.
As both a heavy metal fan, and a Metal Gear Solid fan I am extremely happy and satisfied to see you reacting to one of the best video game soundtracks of all time!! Your analysis was spectacular. You deserve more subs! 🙇
One thing I think people might not have mentioned is that some of the tracks on the OST are mixed (or remixed?) by Maniac Agenda, who are an electronic music duo, while some other tracks aren't (indicated by "Platinum Mix" instead of "Maniac Agenda Mix" in the OST listings)
That probably also explains the different "vibe" between certain of the tracks being having stronger electro elements and such, like those heavy wubs and that half-time change-up in Collective Consciousness (Maniac Agenda Mix). Maybe. I could be wrong though!
This soundtrack is so sick! It just gives you so much energy and with the game it's even better.
"Was good until the singing started"
I see, You deny your music tastes true purpose
Since (I think) he hasn’t played the game itself to see the storyline and the more specific characteristics of each boss I understand why it wasn’t touched on, besides when someone mentioned a bit about blade wolf, but the fact that the songs fit the characters, and not just the lyrics relating to them, but the themes in the way each song is written, fits each of the bosses personalities and character traits so well, and that in itself makes me just love the mgrr ost even more.
i’ve been binging your videos!! this OST wasn’t what i expected, for some reason, but i did think it was pretty cool. music is my favorite thing in this world and i just love seeing the passion you have for it. it would be so sick to see you react to some mongolian music-contemporary or folk!! or even an indigenous siberian artist like OTYKEN! the algorithm might not favor it, admittedly, but i would!!
When it comes to the game play. the lyrics only appear when certain conditions are met. that means Most of the lyrics happens when when the boss switches their tactic or stage in the fight.
"The only thing i know for real" happens lyric free in the start of the very start when you meet the character the first time, when you fight him as a boss. the lyric is only present when you knock his sword out of his hand, to symbolize that his real though are overwritten by having the sword.
They all aim to tell a deeper story about the person involved in the fight or the character you play.
So for the 2nd last song collective consciences it fits perfectly when mixed with all I want for Christmas is you exactly its the funniest thing in all of music for me
You Should totally give warhammer 40000: Mechanicus soundtrack a listen. The game is good but the soundtrack is legendary. Never heard such a unique soundscape as that soundtrack. Ever wondered what a church organ drop sounds like? Ever wondered what space faring ultra orthodox cyborg priests worshiping a mechanical God while raiding tombs of ancient dormant robot Egyptians sounds like? Well look(listen?) no further.