How to Install Lone Rider Motobags on a BMW R1250GS
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- čas přidán 7. 01. 2021
- The Lone Rider motobags are a semi-rigid luggage or pannier system available for a huge array of motorbikes, able to mount to existing luggage racks or alternatively, you can purchase Lone Rider's own. This vid covers the unboxing and installation of a set of Lone Rider motobags on a BMW R1250GS.
There will be a full indepth review coming of the bags once I've had a chance to use them properly - COVID severley restricted any trips on the big tractor in 2020.
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They looked quite fiddly initially but I could see their advantages once installed.
So tough, flexible and most importantly.....waterproof 😉
Many thanks, great video.
Always a joy to watch 👍😎
Kudos Teapotone and thank you for this tutorial. I watched 5 to 6 videos from Lone Rider and not a single one pointed the camera inside the bag and show in details how to fit the hard plate. All what you see is one of their guys hunched over the bag with his hands inside. For the price we are paying they should do better tutorials or provide some with the bags. Like do and don’t, how to care etc…. They should pay you for this video. 👏👏😂
Looks like a cracking product! thanks for showing them, cheers.
Great vid, nice seeing the beast in the corner
That’s spooky timing!
I have been looking at these recently,
I really like how they can collapse when empty. Also that Molle system is the mutts, you can attach anything and everything to them. That’s decent.
Not sure about a padlock, there has to be a smarter way than that surely...
Just need to find a buyer for my Aluminium panniers now, if there’s someone out there...!?!?
Looks very nice, great video!
Nice luggage buddy, for a moment I thought I'd clicked on a Mototrek video when I heard the drums 😂
Fantastic bags... Really nice vid. Thank You.
Cheers, glad you liked it 👍
Thank you for this video and your tips, then to see this is very easy the installation. I like the Lone Rider Products !
Hey Bruce, good kit. Do you have underfloor heating in the garage. You look like you have no shoes on 😂😂😂
I didn’t! It was summer so nice and warm 😉
Thanks for the review, mate. I have been interested in these for a while - though I find the colour a bit boring, that semi-rigid concept looks really convincing to me.
Purchased on Black Friday still expensive but at over 30% discount on the day was worth a punt (as you can see ) been looking at several different types but settled for the LR after watching your vid . 👍
The Loan Rider gear looks good.Thanks.
Just got them yesterday, Thailand …. thanks for your info bro
The quality looks tremendous 👍🏍💨
Aye it’s impressive isn’t it, very well put together
Looks like great quality best I’ve seen but for me Kriega tail packs. Cheers Bruce great review
I admire your perseverance, looks like a very fiddly and messy system to install! I am not a huge fan of scaffolding on a bike, however I appreciate the panniers do look well constructed and robust, but wow they are expensive!! Thanks for the review :)
Great vid Bruce! Cheers 🍻
Thanks Dave 👍
Great bags Bruce especially if you intend to go off-road as they will also protect your bike if you get a tumble or three! my preference are the Vario cases for touring as they can be securely locked when the bike is parked up.
Thanks Bruce another great vid. I have a Tiger 800 XRT with solid ally luggage but found this very interesting and informative. Love your channel keep up the good work. Cheers from Dave in Ozz :)
Thanks Dave 👍
Honestly don’t know why I’d choose soft luggage over BMW’s own Bruce. Genuine BMW stuff is only £663 a pair, complete! Absolute respect to you for what you’ve done in the past. Please don’t sell yourself out Bruce, motorcyclists are quite canny people......
Why am I selling myself out Nick? Can I not try other stuff or something?
LoneRider asked if I’d try out their stuff so I have - what’s the big deal?
@@teapotone Hi Bruce. If you feel that they’re an improvement over BMW’s hard version costing only 60% of these, and they don’t look like they’ve hit ‘every branch of the ugly tree’, then it’s down to a matter of taste. I respect that - and you.
Personally, I’ve tried soft panniers in the past, nothing like as good quality as these, but think they’ll get grimy like mine did, and I was always worried to leave the bike.
Please Bruce, don’t take my comments as being disrespectful of you, I really admire your zest for life, your videos (which are the next best thing to actually doing it myself!) and your stand on why you came out of the Police force. Keep up the good work!
Cheers Nick,
No bother bud, I don’t take constructive criticism, or even another persons viewpoint, as a personal dig - we’re all different 👍
Nice review - subscribed 😀
Thanks bud 👍
I have had a set for about a year. I have had no issues with them AT all. They may have helped the bike nap a few times.... They still look brand new.
Thanks for that.. great system..
Great video Bruce, love the way you show the genuine teapotone mistakes. I have a Kreiga rackless system but Lone Rider lockable soft luggage is definitely a product worth considering especially if someone has concerns for security. Considering the locks on hard panniers, I would suggest the Lone Rider system is more secure and you can change the locks to whatever type you want.
Cheers Ray
Happy New Year Bruce! Nice system from Lone Rider. BMW Atacama soft luggage, built by Mosko Moto, is definitely worth a look also and is around the same price point. Have it on my GSA and love it. 👍🏻😁
Love the honesty with the mistakes Bruce, we all make them don't we 😠. Look good but rather pricey, I think this style of bag is the way to go.
Brill work mate, made all the mistakes I would make I to have 2020 hindsight
I'm completely torn, was planning on replacing my RT with a brand new one next year, now thinking constantly about the GS..........It looks amazing, and I love the look of the Moto bags you just installed (great instructional video BTW). Bike is due an MOT next week, I think I'll have to have a serious look at the GS, maybe a test ride. As always, love your content :)
Great video. Thank you
Soft bags are the way forward I nearly cried when my wife put a big black boot scuff on my two week old multistrada pannier 😂
Thank you Bruce for that. Baggage on order as a result of you!! for my Tiger Rally Pro
Wow cheers Eurwyn, glad you liked the vid bud, let me know what you think of your kit once you’ve got it 👍
Keep safe Bruce 👍
Cheers bud, you too 👍
Good video helped me a lot
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Sorf luggage for the off roader, they look good but a faff to take on and off for cleaning or when not being used, vario luggage more user friendly and a lot cheaper.
An old boy once told me, "you always have time to do it right the second time". lol
😂👍
Thanks teapot 👍🏻
Great review Bruce👍......hope that's paint on your joggers.😁
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Soft bags over hard bags every time Mr Smart, see thee at the Clan meet on the IOM (Simon Orme) very much looking forward to it….goooo on 🤟🏼
very good video. thanks
Cheers Leo 👍
Nice presentation and some very helpful tips I hadn't found elsewhere. Thanks very much. This video made me subscribe to your channel. Cheers.
Thanks, welcome to the channel 👍
Thank you man 👨🏻
Hey you 🤪happy New Year 🏴✌️
Love the safety footwear. 👍😂
Interesting review, hadn’t considered the thought on aluminium luggage crushing legs!
More and more reviewers have been mentioning this risk over time.
I personally haven’t experienced the hard panniers trapping me or causing injury, but plenty of people have commented or messaged me saying they have 🤷♂️
I have seen the hard panniers cause a fair bit of damage to a bike though when it’s gone over, they wrenched the rack and twisted out some of the bolts - don’t know if that in turn did any damage to the bike frame etc 🤷♂️
👍 for the video, as the norm, But a bit on the costly side will stick with my BMW hard luggage especially when I got both boxes for around £400:00 😝😄
They do look like a good quality set up Bruce. Personally I’m a big fan of the Kriega US Bags as they are far easier and cheaper to adapt to any bike. Summer 2019 I took my MT09 to the Pico’s with the US30 and 2 US20’s, a Redverz Attacama Tent and Helinox Chair and table all strapped to the Frame under the (tiny) pillion bit on the MT09. Admittedly I had to cinch it down a couple of times on the long haul through France but generally we stop briefly every 2 hours anyway to give our ageing knees a stretch. Kriega US30 + 2x US20 = US Combo 70 £407. Bought a Tiger 900 Rally Pro in September, not had a chance to tour it yet though (Bloody Covid). So for £27.50 for a set of 4 sub frame loops (plus spare Straps etc) I’m good to go on the tiger with my existing Kriega kit. I do have the Triumph Aluminium Top box as well just because it makes me look cool. 👍😳
Yeah I used the Kriega stuff on my RTW trip, it’s great kit
Nice bags...until you mentioned the price!! All panniers are over priced...but 800 queens heads for 2 bags... its not Louis Vuitton is it?! Another great video mate. Lone Rider need to give a discount code you can share!
LOMO panniers are £50
That’s great, but this is a vid about Lone Rider Motobags 🤷♂️
@@teapotone I know but they are £800. Are they sponsoring you?
No, as I said in the vid, they just sent the kit for me to try out
It's obviously decent kit, no doubt about it. Its a personal choice on hard vs soft panniers but it jist seems pricey condering they are soft... on the same note aluminium panniers are over priced. Its horses for courses... none the less, love the video. Keep it up young man
Well done, Bruce. Thanks for making my mistakes for me ;)
My pleasure Adam 😉
Seriously... they are very cool. Think i will look at these for the 1250r.
Cheers Ed👍
Is that your suit from your "around the world trip" Bruce hanging up 🤣🤣
Yes bud, both of them
Bloody good stuff! I like the way you review this. I think as a “firearms trained” bloke you have a particularly nice way of handing hardware and describing stuff. Straightforward and honest. 👍
I love this luggage system Bruce but cannot justify the expense. I am making do with the much cheaper option of Lomo throw over waterproof panniers, which do the same job for the amount of times I will use them properly. However, if I was getting a set gratis or was a lot flusher, then I would defo have a set. 👍🏻😊
Hey Bruce - great video, love the fact that you show the mishaps... Just not convinced by the product. Price is high for what it is, compared to ally luggage. FYI there are Bumont panniers that are 100% waterproof. But at the end of the day it is all personal choice. It'd be boring if we all liked the same thing.
I think Bruce admitting his cock-ups , is all part of the “Bruce“ thing .... totally honest, always integrity beats bullshit.....
Yes initial purchase seems high for soft luggage but if you have more than one bike then can go from bike to bike with a little bit of spannering
Great product Bruce...As You Can See 🙈
Awesome thanks Mate :-)
Good looking kit although expensive for something that could be stolen when the bike was parked up outside a hotel. Just needs a spanner and they are off with whatever kit you’ve left inside.
monsi25 so if you have ones secured with a bolt and I’m parked next you and mine are secured with Velcro, which would the thief attack first? You could secure them with armed guards... and some one turns up with snipers. It’s not about making it impossible - thieves will always steal, it’s about making it harder than the next option.
LoneRider V’s BMW aluminium panniers - 6 bolts and the whole rack comes off the bike with the panniers attached. Both just as easy to pinch.
That 300mm will be 30mm then. 300mm being @12 inches. Looks like a nice system! Cheers Bruce.
I have the vario panniers on my GS. I don't have the liners. I've done lots of miles through torrential rain on tours in Scotland and France and they have never leaked at all. I think the liners thing is a marketing scam. The vario panniers are secure, look good (in my opinion) and come off the bike leaving it look totally standard. The other bonus to hard luggage is that they CAN protect you! I got side swiped by a car and the pannier and engine bar took all the force and my leg was left unscathed.
Good points bud 👍
Nice look T pot 👍🏽 have to ask about where is the lock tight on the small bolts?
I see the appeal of soft bags. I have SW-Motech on my GS, with the quick release brackets. I really like the ability to remove the parts easily when not touring. That being said I think I can mount bags like that to the brackets I have..... much to consider...
Apparently LoneRider are releasing a quick-release system for these bags too, but I don’t know anything about it at the mo.
They seem very popular,looked on the website,sold out!
Hahaha... 300mm. I hope you never get a job as a roofer mate :)
Looks very similar to the Mosko moto bags system. I've got some hard aftermarket paniers for my GS but if I was looking for replacements or a panier system for my 'commuter' then these would be a serious contender. 👍
Bob, I like your comment. I was trying to figure the difference to the Mosko Moto option too. I think the inclusion of the orange liners is possibly the only thing.
(Maybe the padlock thing too ? So many theives in the U.K. and Northern Europe)
@@maxflight777 Thanks, the main difference I can see, is the Mosko's are slightly smaller at 35L & 25L compaired to Bruce's 38L & 31L. Also as you say you don't get the inner bags, ratchet spanner or that neck buff. However, you do get a couple of Molle 5L &m 4L water bottle holders included, but being ex military, I'd customise the Molle 'extras' as needed, maybe extra water or fuel or a first aid kit bla bla bla. Having just done a quick check, there's about 30 Euro's difference, with the Lone Rider being slightly more expensive, but you do get bigger bags and more bits (it appears).
@@robchisholm72 Thanks ! The decision gets harder ! 😬
@Max Flight Happy to help 👍, rather you than me but I would choose the Lone Rider's simply because they are slightly bigger. It's better to have an empty bag than one you can't close.....
Interesting video. The one thing I noticed is that the panniers don't clip on and off easily- which is something I think I would want.
Yes definitely. They now have a quick release system available but I’ve not received it yet to try.
Very nice, don't think they'll fit the forza though🤣 will have to wait for the release of the touring 750😁
I get it the advantages etc, flatten down when not in use (which is great), protection for the bike and so on...............
The Achilles heal is their vulnerability to theft 🤔, ah well enjoy ‘em Bruce they look just the job but keep your eye on them 👍 great vid thanks for making / sharing.
What vulnerability to theft Andrew? They lock shut with a padlock and are almost impossible to puncture🤷♂️👍
@@teapotone If I’ve understood the system correctly, the nut and bolts holding the panniers to the frame via the brackets look fairly easy to spanner off. Difficult to tell from a vid, but for the sake of a couple quid they might have supplied tamper proof pin torx bolts / nuts or similar just makes things a lot harder to pinch...........👍
No mate, the rack is also secured around the foot peg, so would take some time and faff to remove.
@@teapotoneOh yes I’ve overlooked that part in the assembly - that should make a difference, anyway let’s hope none of it is put to the test
Cost aside I think soft luggage is better. However the hard luggage for the GS and my Tiger I'd easier to put on and off as I don't always want the panniers on.
Was considering these and the Bumot ones. The Bumot fit directly onto and lock onto the BMW frames.
Both look like they could do the job equally well.
Don’t like the sticky-up lock/plate or permanent mounting plates on the lone rider though. 🤔
Thank you. Very informative.
Clearly explained with sense of humor. Well done.
Cheers Albino 👍
Bruce... Someone stole your shoes mid video. Bags look great and I prefer them to the traditional aluminium ones.
It always takes half the time the second time! 👍 Think I would have put those mountings further apart. 🤷. That's one very expensive Meccano set, so I'll stick to my £60, 60L, 100% waterproof seat bag I strap the the pillion seat and hope it doesn't get nicked! 😁. I can also still filter.
I was thinking the same as regards the mounting points, spread wider so effectively the corners of the bags are fastened to the frame making it more secure. Good review though and good to show the “learning experiences” ( PC Mode) you had
Foot wear! Does the garage have underfloor heating?
The boxes that you get with the Standard GS are a much better. My opinion
Swings and roundabouts Glynn- they’re cheaper and removable (great positives), but they’re not waterproof and like other rigid systems they are prone to damage and causing injury in the event of a fall.🤷♂️
As I said Bruce, my opinion I’m on my 4 GS and they have never leaked . Enjoy your new bags 👍
Aluminium or “Varios” Glynn ?
Vario
Great vid, nice bags.. pretty sure you meant 30mm though lol
Yep
Bruce is your garage clock available to buy or a one off? Love it
It’s a one off bud, someone had it made and sent it to me! 👍
Looks like a good product, you should do more bike kit reviews, just for the spanner work ;-)
Comedy value 😉👍
@@teapotone definitely 😜
Great review but would liked to have seem them collapsed down on the bike as the are not easily removed regularly. 👍
Great vid Bruce 👌 , and the bags look quality however around a grand with the racking rather steep , and they seem a bit of a faff compared to hard panniers 🤷♂️
Thanks Dale 👍
12:20. 30mm
Was just checking to see if all of you were awake 😜
No Bruce is right it's definitely 300. That means everyones manhood has just gotten a more impressive measuring scale to work to 😊
Good review mate but there's a bit of faffing about to get in for a extra layer out on a chilly day
Aye definitely, totally agree
Great kit but Bumot do a much better cheaper version, fit straight on BMW OEM racks as do their hard panniers...
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Great video pal, I'm new to your channel but must say your content is very good and entertaining, I'm looking to buy a new gs1250 in the next few weeks just need to test ride the Big un and Little one...
A couple of questions if you don't mind,
Are the tyres on yours the standard ones ?
what was your reasons for not choosing the Adventure ?
Thanks in advance and Thanks for your Fantastic content and humour...
Hello bud,
Welcome to the channel and I’m glad you’re enjoying the content so far!
The OE tyres on my 1250Gs when I bought it in July 2020 where the Bridgestone A41’s. I found them ok for road riding in the UK, but when I’ve tried them up in the Spanish mountains and pushed them hard, I’ve found them a bit ‘slidey’ 😬
Reasons for not getting the GSA - it’s just a fat GS. Same bike, same engine, but 35kg heavier so slower and not quite as agile, so not for me personally. 👍
@@teapotone Thanks pal ..
Hi Bruce really liked the video really shows how good these panniers are. Like some others I had been considering these instead of the aluminium due to expense and the safety issue bought to my attention by an American vlogger which is where i first found out about these.
I certainly didn't realise they came with the inners which is a saving certainly over the BMW ones. As you cant get a top box with it what do u use or suggest as a top box to go with these as I cant quite make yours out,
keep up the good work with the videos.
Hi David,
To be fair I don’t usually bother with panniers - I never take that amount of luggage with me tbh. Usually I have a Vario top box and my rucksack and that’s it.
Teapot you’ve done the top strap up wrong mate, when you close the bag you roll it twice and the strap fastens inside then it the third roll then locks in the locking buckle where the padlock goes then the 2 straps fasten up to tighten up ps it’s not wise to do the strap up outside as you can catch your footing on it when you get on the bike mate 🏍 watch nothing drops on your bear feet mate lol 😂
I haven't seen these before and am surprised at the cost. However the thing I liked least was the padlocks. Surely they're gonna bang and rattle.
I’d be VERY surprised if you could hear them rattling over the engine and wind noise when you’re riding bud? Not been an issue for me anyway 🤷♂️
On a completely different note is the Gs Rallye different to the standard GS. Te. Or is it just a paint job and spoke wheels ?
Essentially it’s the same bike as the TE I believe, just spoke wheels and paint job.
Bruce what tyres you running on the gs and are they any good. This is a cracking vid. Thank you
Hi Chris,
It’s got the stock Bridgestone A41’s on it at the moment. They’re fine for UK roads, but I tried them in Spain last year on another Gs and hated them when they were really hot and being pushed hard in the twisty mountains.
Dunlop Roadsmart 3’s or Michelin Road 5’s are the best road tyres available for the GS in my opinion at the moment.
@@teapotone thanks Bruce
FYI, for you, R1250GS and R1250GSA owners out there with BMW's OEM racks mounted on your bikes.
While Lone Rider tells you these Motobags will just snap into place with no work on your part, I found this statement not to be 100% accurate.
First, you will have to remove the reflectors from the bag rails. No big deal, just 4 T25 screws.
Next was a much greater disappointment for me. I had the Touratech toolbox mounted on my bike. I carried my tire repair and pump in it. I had to remove it to get the 38-liter bag to go onto the rack assembly. Since I had 2, 6 liter mini-bags, I just attached them to the rear of the Motobags and put my tire repair items in one of those. No big deal, but the Touratech box did lock, and the Lone Rider mini bags don't have any way to lock them.
Another thing I'm not impressed with about these bags is the crummy adjustable strap and "J" hook mounting system they provide to mount items to the mollie system. I just can't seem to get a secure attachment. These mollie straps always seem too loose. Lacing the rear mounting straps is also difficult. These rear straps are elastic, but when you're lacing them through the mollie attaching points, they seem just a few millimeters too short. My hands were literally aching when I was finished.
I also have a hard time securing the aluminum locking system. I just can't get them to slip together easily. I had to pack a punch in my tank bag so I could get the pin to slide into the slot. It's not a big issue. I just don't believe how easy the Lone Ride youtube videos make it look.
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I really like the concept; light and purposeful. I can see difficulty penetrating it which a screwdriver, but can’t it more easily be sliced open with a sharp Exacto knife?
Did you watch this vid Walter? That’s covered with video footage too 👍
Bruce, Nice bags, look really well engineered, but £1000 for two bags and racks is a little steep! Maybe Lone Rider will have a sale at some point?
You’ve just missed it bud!
£1k is a LOT of money, but it’s about the same as equivalent quality hard boxes from the likes of SWmotech or Givvi etc.
Nice indepth review.
But why would anyone spend a £1000 on soft panniers when Lomo are selling similar bags for £55 delivered ??
Cheers, they’re not soft panniers comparable to other soft panniers though are they - they basically have the security benefits of traditional hard luggage, with the added safety of soft bags, and an ability to stow away when not in due whilst remaining on the bike.
I’m not saying either is better - I prefer a top box and roll bag personally, but these are good bits of kit if you want to go down the traditional side panniers route 👍
Nice bags, is there a camping trip or longer road trip on the future?
I plan on as many road trips as possible once freedom is returned to us bud, and will include camping at some point too.
I do meet-ups and rideouts arranged over on the Patreon page
Hi Bruce, Do you know if they have a quick release system? I have heard that they were coming up with the system...
Yes mate they do, was just sent it last month actually and will be trying it out later this month 👍
Thank you Bruce 👍 Ride safe mate👍👍👍
Do the bags stayed permanently attached to the bike? If so, does that present any issues? Great video by the way!
Cheers Tony, yes they do bud, but LoneRider are working on a quick release system apparently.
As I say in the vid, you can flatten the bags down almost flat when you’re not using them, but I still prefer to just remove them when I’m not using them.
To be frank, I’d much rather use luggage which I can easily get on and off the bike, so I wouldn’t spend my money on these ones as they are now. Once the quick release system is available, and assuming it’s good, then these would be awesome bags to have if you’re in the market and willing to spend the premium money for top quality luggage 👍
Nice vid, nice bags, just too pricy for my liking. Maybe you should put the mounting points as far apart as possible, at least thats what my engeneering mind tells me :) By the way, nice garage you have there, looks nice but I miss the VW ! One question as well, what kind of orange floor is that ? Is that some kind of 'solid' paint ? Fuel / oil resistant ? I bet the colour would go well with a KTM, heh ? Best to you, keep up the good vids.
Hi, I am considering purchasing these bags. How satisfied are you with them after a year of use?
Now they have the quick release system, I think they’re a great pannier system. The bags easily take any kit you’d need for a trip away, they’re totally waterproof, look great, and don’t effect the handling of the bike.
If you’re in the market for panniers then I’d stand by these definitely.