Go-around while landing at London City Airport in a KLM Embraer E190!
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2023
- Airline: KLM (KL/KLM)
Operator: KLM Cityhopper (WA/KLC)
Flight no.: KL989
Route: Amsterdam (AMS) - London City (LCY)
Seat no.: 16F
Date: September 21, 2023
Scheduled time of departure: 16:35 (actual 17:27)
Scheduled time of arrival: 16:35 (actual 17:07)
Weather: overcast
Aircraft type: Embraer E190STD (E190)
Aircraft registration no.: PH-EZC
A short hop from Amsterdam Schiphol to London City Airport, just 35 minutes in the air, in a showery and breezy day. Uneventful until a handful of miles from destination, when the captain aborts the landing and must go around due to excessive tail wind on the short London City runway.
Time of events in the video
- go-around: 6:28
- captain's explanation of the reason for the go-around: 9:01
- landing: 15:53
- map of go-around route: 20:37
Apologies for the video not being a single shot, memory issues with the phone caused several interruptions of the recording.
Links:
Amsterdam Schiphol Airport (AMS/EHAM): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterd...
London City Airport (LCY/EGLC): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_...
So nice to see a window seat professionally operated camera. Rock steady, no pointless zooming, constant panning etc. well done, keep up the good work. Never flown to EGLC & had no idea landing was allowed in that direction over the City towers. Will enjoy again.
surely its called LCY?
Yes. IATA is LCY. ICAO is EGLC.@@valuetraveler2026
@@valuetraveler2026 It's the ICAO code. There's two different type of codes, ICAO and IATA. IATA is often used by for displaying it to customers, and is often more similar to the given name (e.g. Heathrow IATA: LHR), whereas ICAO seems to be more for airline operations (used on Pilots' approach plates etc.) (e.g Heathrow: EGLL)
but they missed the go around moment.
Landing and departing is possible in both directions at this airport. Just with steep decent angles.
Outstanding video. View showed the expanse of the city and surroundings. Thank goodness there was too much of a tail wind or we wouldn't have seen such a picturesque landing. Thank you!
I've only landed here once and flying below the city towers on approach was amazing! I've still never had a go around in 30 or so years of flying! Although there was a landing in Canada where we probably should have gone around. We just about turned off the end of the runway, in snow, at speeds far faster than felt safe and we were still full reverse thrust in the taxiway for a moment!!
YYZ no doubt
Terrific fly-along. If I can’t be flying now, I’ll ride with you.😊
Thankyou for documenting
Excellent video, thanks.
Such a sharp turn! Awesome 😄
Great film. Thank you
Thankyou for documenting 😮
Wow! Very cool and that turn around approach was a bonus. Thanks!
What a great video , thanks for that
Still on the bucket list landing there! Maybe next year
Great video! Well done by you and the crew.
Superb, excellent and PROFESSIONAL.
Stunning video. Beautifully filmed and what a fantastic view of London on this approach with go around. Thank you for posting this!
View of city👌
Beautiful video ❤
Great quality video, thanks for sharing. Nice landing in the end
Very nice!
Super professional. Great flying pilots.
Very cool!
I love being a passenger in the different embraers. You get the feeling of flying while still protection from too many bumps, if that makes sense. Bigger jets are too blah. Great video thanks!
Takeoff at LCY in the E190 is such a cool experience. The feeling of a max power takeoff is a unique experience.
Do you like the Embraer? I flew five times last week and the two E190s were by far the most unbearable machines. Loud, rattling, uncomfortable, unstable flight attitude, poor air conditioning and always smell of exhaust fumes.
God Bless from Ireland ..able to spot old abode in Elephant Castle very clearly !! 🙂
Amazing video.....well done.
Love done. It. ❤️👍👍👍
What a view over London though, as inconvenient as the go around might have been. I had one too a few years back in an Embraer 190 I believe from BA as a plane behind us was given priority landing so approaching LCY, going down nicely like here we re-accelerated. Great video I loved it.
The enginnering inside the wing fascinates me! great video! thanks
Looked like a lovely landing
Great video - my favourite approach into LCY! And just a glimpse of The Shard on the final turn
Shard was gonna be taller but it would surely have clashed with this flight path if it had been.
Official excuse was 9/11
Flown into LCY once from Amsterdam in 2005 and out to Rotterdam in 2010. I kept my boat at the marina near the East end of the runway. Made change for being under the flight path to Heathrow back when Concorde was flying, on takeoff it made the drinks cabinet rattle.
i was planning on keeping one there until it shut down…
Closing may have done you a favor though the airport is well within the ULEZ, boats would still have continued getting their decks covered in a black film. I left my boat there while working in HK, looked after by a very good friend who also has Dunkirkers.
St Kaths is much nicer.@@alexmnblyth
I've done this flight a few times but has always been in the evening. Great video.
awesome approach and landing/cool go around
Thx
The Embraer is a great machine on short runways .
Love LCY. Especially landing from the West 😊
Great video showing flaps 1, 2 and 3 before landing
The vision is very good
Incredible when you have lived under the flight path, and know the whole terrain intimately. Return flights always flew over my Kent house, but they would never help me save time to get home by handing me have a parachute.
I could almost see my old home in Essex!
And, for some unfathomable reason, parachuting never seems to be an option. I sometimes wonder if Ryanair shouldn't open a new revenue stream! 😁
Superb camerawork, nicely done.
Excellent video! 👏👏👏
Thank you!
nice video. never been to London but landing at LCY is definitely a goal of mine. E190 is a great aircraft.
At 13:23 you can spot the tip of the Shard, and tower bridge on the bottom far left
I actually hadn't noticed, thank you! 👍👍👍
Some quite hard turns, shows how tight the airspace is around London having Heathrow Airport just down the road in aviation terms.
Excellent quality video some great views of London rare to see a go around at London City, it's location does provide some surprises as the wind strength and direction is interesting at times due to the high buildings around which funnel the wind down the runway.Have flown in and out of LCY myself very interesting experience, Merry Christmas 🎅
Thx, merry Christmas!!🎄
I used to be cabin crew at BA City Express on the RJ100s and flew into LCY many times. Always a fascinating experience.
It must be a nightmare for ATC when they have to switch the runway because of the very dense traffic in the whole London area.
I can see my house from here :) As video starts, my area is a top right of the letter C in the aircraft registration ref. Rochford, Essex. Nice video, thanks.
I wish I could fly to London! 🇬🇧✈️🧳 😢
Good fun trying to identfy my landmarks - my mother's home in Bermondsey, traced from the railway viaduct pinned by the Shard, etc!
I know how frustrating it can be if you have to go around multiple times, especially if you need the bathroom!
Never yet used City Airport, though.
Yes, it's fantastic to be able to read the landscape like a map
Flew into city airport last Friday in the same type of plane,but with swiss air/helvetica.
No fly around,but remember the braking on landing was more harder than other airports ive been to.
Probably to avoid parking the plane in the river.
You can always tell the people who've flown into LCY a few times, because they'll brace themselves with their hand on the seat in front ready for the breaks.
How come, that Rod Stewart is on my mind?
"I AM SAILING . . ."
😂😂😂
My office building at 18:11. With a panoramic view, the runway activity can be very distracting.
I experienced my first ever go around at LCY also, returning from Dublin on an Aer Lingus RJ185. We'd actually connected with the runaway - I was in a window seat at the very back - and could see a puff of smoke from the tyres, but then just as quickly we were away again.
From your excellent quality of video, it's shocking to see the scale of change there's been. I've cycled every square inch of that locale, living close by in Blackheath, but have been around and about very little in the late four years. The amount of construction is extraordinary, but it is great to see that LCY now has a taxi way at last.
As a photographer I have spent many happy hours on the bridge just off the Eastern end of the runway with my array of lenses. There's no place like it. I do have one horrendous LCY story, however. A cancelled flight and an 8 hour wait !!!!!!!! Like been stranded on the top of a pin for an entire day.
Thank you for sharing your story, we all have our own sad airport adventures! Yup, so much has changed in the East End, and lots still going on
The flying Dutchman . Say no more !
Now you know why airline pilots are well paid...They literally hold our lives in their hands.
5.5 degree glide slope as opposed to the usual 3 degree. And only 1500m runway length.
They need to maintain about 2000ft to clear the buildings and then start a fairly steep descent from about 3-DME. Need to be certified for this.
Very impressive video. Thanks !
Nice capturing 👍✅
I see they did some work at LCY airport and built vacating exit in mid runway so aircrafts don’t have to wait at the end of RWY and backtrack to go to parking stand. Miss this airport
How was it before?
@@windowseatflyervids you had to wait that 1 or 2 aircrafts land before backtracking the runway to parking stand.
@@flygwada971 quite an improvement
Theres a full length taxi way there now as LCY want to hugely increase flights in the next 10yrs or so and reduce the 24hr weekend shutdown. Lots of local opposition naturally.
@@stevecollins6422 I quite like the weekend early curfew as it means that SEN gets lots of unscheduled arrivals looking for a home :) I think we've had all the B.A. Embraers in at some point. Not sure KLM uses SEN for these re-routes however. Shame.
I posted a landing here recently, from seat 2d, best seat in the house! But still hope to get an aproach over the city.
Reached 100,000 views today: it's been an amazing ride, a huge thank you to all you viewers! This video performed above and beyond my wildest imagination! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
On your turn from east to west by the eastern boundary of the Greater London area you're almost at the Thameside RSPB nature reserve where I normally take my daily stroll. The eastern approach glide path actually passes directly over the reserve, good for both bird spotting and plane watching!!
I don't know this reserve, where is it more exactly?
@@windowseatflyervids If you watch the video just as the wing dips at the start of the 180 degree turn at about 7 minutes 48 seconds in, you can just about see the two towers of the QE2 bridge in the left hand side of the screen coming into view.
Pause the video at that point and bring your sights down until you see the big area of greenery and ponds next to the river between the bridge and the wing leading edge. You can see the A13 trunk road snaking through the marshland area on a viaduct.
That whole area is the RSPB Rainham Marshes reserve. The riverside path, which runs from the Royal Hotel at Purfleet right round to Rainham, is gravelled on an embankment and is very popular with the locals and their dogs. Some good views of the river and marshes to be had and one can just make out a few of the Canary Wharf skyscrapers on a clear day.
Opposite the reserve on the Kent side of the river you can also sometimes see seals basking at low tide on the rather muddy 'beach' if the weather is fine.
@@windowseatflyervids How strange! Not ignoring you, I typed a reply but it seems to have disappeared!
If you go to 7 minutes 49 seconds in the video, as the wing dips at the start of the 180 degree right turn you can see the two towers of the QE2 bridge on the left of the screen. Drop your sight directly downwards and you can see a large area of greenery and ponds adjacent to the river. That's the reserve, it's the RSPB Rainham Marshes reserve sited between Purfleet and Rainham in Essex just on the Greater London border.
It's ancient grazing marshland which still sometimes has cattle on it as well as the birds and wildlife. It has a riverside walk on embankment so there are good views across both the river and the marsh. Sometimes at low tide you might even be lucky enough with binoculars or telescope to see seals basking on the muddy 'beach' on the opposite side of the river.
Nice to hear a quiet plane with no noisy passengers compared to the rabid animals you get on domestic American flights these days.
'craigmclaughlin7870 Yes used to dread all the interstate U.S flights taken as the noise and rubbish was really awful SO LOUD.
Was the sightseeing tour of London extra!
Excellent video. Yes the last moment the battery ran out..it happened to me few times!! Btw I subbed you.
Wow, do all approaches into London City use spoilers? And would that be because of need to reduce higher approach speed, due to resultant higher airflow, in turn due to steeper 5degree approach into London City ?
@9:00 Go arounddddd. So cool.
I didn’t realize that Amsterdam was that close to London, and I fancy myself a geography whiz.😅
It's a similar distance to Brussels or Paris
am i wrong if i say the air brakes are deployed when approach and landing?
They are indeed
Brilliant vid, can I ask what camera/phone you are using?
It's a Samsung Galaxy S20 FE
@@windowseatflyervids thanks amazing clarity
Where was the go around, one minute the flaps are deploying next there back and we are up in air again
Have a look at the minute 6:20.
Unfortunately the memory was full at exactly the wrong time, that is only seconds after the go around was commenced, but you hear the engines spool up and see the speed brakes retracted.
nearly got you 1000 likes, one more to go!!
I had 3 go arounds last flight!
Wow! What was it, bad weather?
Why were speedbrakes partially deployed on final?
Steep descent, short runway.
Great Flight Sim video.
This is a real flight, or am I misunderstanding your comment?
Did I miss something here? Where was the go around??
Please read the description, you'll find the exact minute as well as the pilot's announcement.
You can hear the 2500 callout around 9:13
That second approach was a clear breach of CAA regs
Really? I'm sincerely curious to know in what way, I'm no expert.
I didnt realize a go around took that much time.
It's basically a take-off and a new landing, which means flying far out enough for the pilots to have the time to go through all the check lists and make a stabilised descent to the runway.
This was probably a quicker go around than just retrying the same approach as the landing changed from east/west approach to a west/east approach. A go around staying with an East/West approach goes back out over the Thames Estuary and sometimes as far as Southend.
Greenwich Royal park and the Isle of Dogs at 10:10
You would've been over the top of my house at about 10 minutes
From 1:00 onwards he's over the island that was planned to have a new mega airport to exceed Heathrow. Allhallows I think it's called.
Only the wing can see
...and London
Great vid, but you edited out the best bit of the go around 😂
...run out of memory at the best moment... 😡
@@windowseatflyervids ah yes I had that where my iPhone said over heating!
@@windowseatflyervids You should have added captions at that point to explain things rather than leaving people confused.
@@KendalMikeyes you are right, it's a good tip. My policy is work with what I have and edit as little as possible. In this case it would have been a good idea to let know what had happened: thank you again, I'll keep that in mind for future videos. 👍
9:13 Idk anyone heard the GPWS 2500 XD
Any pilot watching?
I live 5mns walk away. Why the go round?
Tailwind. Have a look at the description, I transcribed (roughly) what the captain told the passengers, or better again go to the spot in the video where the captain speaks (as noted in the description)
Speed brake up all the way down to touchdown??
I honestly did not take notice, the key to the answer lies in the video itself I suppose. It's true that the landing in LCY is steeper than most other airports, so it may well be. It'd be great if a pilot reading this could share his or her experience with us!
i know, right! Plus that spoiler kept moving like an aileron / flaperon. Was that perhaps a spoileron? lol
im not sure if its the same system correct me if im wrong, but the L1011 had a similar system where the speedbrakes assisted in keeping a stable descent on approach. not sure if its the same on the 190 but i remember the 1011 had the same thing@@conquestmedia2490
@sethalexis6741 very interesting! Just when I thought I'd seen it all. I'm definitely looking into this!
E190/195 pilot here! The embraers flying into london city have an option installed called steep approach mode. The normal configuration of the plane wouldn't allow us to have spoilers deployed whilst in landing configuration. For LCY this becomes a problem because the steep descent would translate in a speed increase while maintaining the correct descent angle. In other words, flaps full and landing gear down doesn't provide enough drag. What the "steep approach mode" does is partially deploy speed brakes even though the plane is configured to land, to maintain a steady descent rate and speed. Hope it helps!
Where was the Go around? This is just a textbook landing?
Check the time of the go around in the description, and also when the captain explains the reason
Das war eher ein Abbruch des Landeanfluges, kein echter Go around. Ihr wart ja noch richtig hoch.
Ja, das heisst doch go-around, muss nicht unbedingt Sekunde vor dem Landed statt finden.
Go around?
Go around.
Check out the description, you'll find the exact minute it happens in the video.
You are not that much higher than those skyscrapers.
Didn't catch the TOGA 😮🤔
Sorry, phone out of memory! 😡
@@windowseatflyervids No need to apologise 👍
Next time 👌
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Would have been kinda cool if you hadn't stopped filming as soon as the go-around started...
It was one of those aahrrrghh! moments, memory full!! Unfortunately could not help it, will make sure I have enough next time! 👍
Great footage but didn't actually see any go around as such
As I wrote in the description, memory was full and the recording stopped a few seconds after the beginning of the go-around. At 6:28 minutes into the video you can hear the engines spool up, the speed brake is retracted. Unfortunately that's where the recording ended abruptly, but the rest of the flight is there.
@windowseatflyervids no worries great anyway,views of London etc
Where was the go around? A go around means the first landing was aborted and the plane goes around and tries to land again
6:20
Have a look at 6:28, the engine spools up and the speed brakes are retracted. Unfortunately the phone run out of memory a couple of seconds after the beginning of the go-around, so the sequence was not fully filmed.
14:30 Ooh Ohh,....Corona...
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Britain looks a lot like Ireland and other European countries.
I actually always found Britain looks quite distinctive, the rows of hedges, the layout of the cities, the look of the buildings. Ireland perhaps, the rest of Europe not really.
what was the point of this video?
You're right, pointless if you're not interested.
It's called a "holding pattern" not go around.
I'm afraid you didn't listen to the pilot's explanation, go to the minute 9:01 of the video. The actual go around happens at 6:28.
What a shame. Cut the video out right at the go around.
Yeah, phone had memory full only seconds after TOGA! 😡
Commenters ,please stop moaning and enjoy this great video presented to you free of charge. @@windowseatflyervids
Go around? There is no go around at all!!!!!!
Please read the description