Why You Should Swing a Mace or Gada | Benefits of Using a Macebell or Steel Mace
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After being asked this question a lot of times, I decided to sit down and sum up the benefits of swinging a mace. In short I've focussed on the muscles being involved in the swing and some of the benefits that come with more complex flow. I put a lot of effort into this, so if you enjoyed it or learned something do leave a like, comment or consider to subscribe :).
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Great presentation Thank you much ! I am 71, fit, and very willing to fight the stiffness that most people let develop in their later years. Whole body / mind coordination, move like a jaguar, get the blood flowing ! Fabulous !
When I saw a 70 Maasai tribesman run a marathon with bare feet I knew that sitting around all day in my office job was killing me. So many guys I worked with could not get out of their chairs without a loud grunt or heavy breathing at the age of 40. I now weight train and eat better after learning my fate was in my hands.
We need more like you, to show people that just because you get older doesn't mean you have to fade into obscurity and lay down to die.
@@FoodFanBoy7845 Beautiful comment 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@Blackthorn869 Right...👏🏽🤷🏽♀️
Really great presentation, sums it all up. I have a 5kg mace that I use almost every day, sometimes twice a day. I also have a 10 kg mace which is a totally different world of pain! I only use this one twice a week to allow my tendons to recover.
My general muscle tone, shoulder mobility, grip strength (obv) have all improved enormously since I started using maces. So I can confirm everything that you say.
Keep up the good work!
Awesome Simon, thanks for sharing that!
Dear Dutchman, Mace or Gada had its Presence in Thousands of years back in History.. To be Exact, Evidences date back atleast 7000 years ago in The Great Indian Epic History of MAHABHARATA..!!!
The Great Bhima, Duryodhana, Balarama and Many more Great Warriors were masters in Mace war tactics. In those Days Current Day Pakistan, Afganistan, Persia, Iran, Iraq was a Part of India also known as Akhand Bharat warsh.
I would request you to read more about the Epic History of MAHABHARATA and Great Epic of RAMAYANA (Which is surely much older than 14000 years as per Astrological Geographical Genetic evidences.) In RAMAYANA, Lord Hanumana (Devotee) of Lord Rama used Mace as his Chief Weapon.
Kindly once Go these Historical characters.
I would love to Hear back from You.
I Love to Watch your Videos and would love to see more of it.. Good Luck Bro.. JAI SHREE RAM 🙏🙏🙏
@@amitnidhalkar1528 pretty epic mate! Where can one learn more about these ancient warriors?
@@vladtheimpaler9118 Thanks Mate. You can find all your Answers by Referring to Ancient Epic Texts of MAHABHARATA and RAMAYAN.
@@amitnidhalkar1528can U advise what muscles mace hits. Versus what muscles hit by clubbells
5 days ago my mace got delivered at home. On day 1 I could barely do a 360, because I was afraid. On day 2 it got easier, now on day 5 we're getting somewhere, but I have to say... I have desk job and have Herbert's videos on display all day long, so that helps a lot! thanks man
Thank you verry much! I am a martial arts teacher and we focus our conditioning around natural movement. The addition of the mace just clicked right into place.
The mace teaches so many martial arts basics its quite ridiculous 😅😀
One of the most important lessons I think we learn from the mace is control Vs chaos which is exactly what's going on when sparring with an opponent
Exactly. You get it 🌀
Great as always! The fun part is always overlooked but it’s one of the key to be truly healthy
Flowing Dutchman thank you for sharing a lot of your experience and explaining how to use good form and make the right adjustments to mace and kettles 👍 much appreciated Sir
Have been doing gada training consistently for a year now. Results include better performance at the gym, increased stamina and muscle endurance, much better conditioning for boxing and Muay Thai, can perform a lot of unusual old school gym lifts and so much more. Most importantly I feel much tougher than I did before.
Definitely recommend for everybody.
Have you noticed any gains in the shoulders. I'm tempted to get one.
Have you gained muscle with it?
Yes bros. It took a while but I Gained muscle. Those high rep workouts are actually pretty good for muscle growth especially in the shoulders.
What gada workout do you do? I do MMA and I'm pretty bored of going to the gym and perform the same movements.
@@giorgiociaravolol1998 my favourite exercise is the barbarian squat. Very good for increasing overall strength. Second would be 360 swings with a slightly wide stance. And single arm swings. Those are awesome for MMA training. They help a lot with takedowns and throws. And the single arm swings increased my punching power too.
Excellent video! I bought one for these very reasons. I’m tired of the same ol same ol of lifting. I am a retired concrete contractor where I became an expert sledge hammer swinger. I used to swing it “around the world” driving stakes, instead of the conventional swing it to strike, pick it up, repeat. As soon as I saw a video of someone swinging a mace, I knew I had to have one and learn it. I hope you have many more videos; this one is the best I have seen explaining everything. I am anxious to learn this art.
Great video highlighting history, technique & benefits. I started using maces 3 years ago at 57, now 60 years and my shoulders are more resilient. The exercises really compliment Kettlebell & Steel Club training as you become stronger all over integrated strength
Naudi, I gave you a hard time about 10 years ago, telling you Id had more benefits in yoga. You called me a tool lol. 🙏🏼 fair play.
Id bought all your content and really noticed incredible benefits through the principles you’d developed, things I’d never been taught in the same way. Transverse plane/ slings etc…how integral in all functional movement these things were.
You’re still a pioneer to me. I’m grateful for all you’ve done.
Surprised how great and informative this video is! Bravo! When I saw the mace/gada workout for the first time, I immediately realized this is a fantastic whole upper body workout.
Awesome awesome video man. Great information, educated and well thought out. Thank you.
Love your videos ans your journey brother. I've been using the mace for a few weeks now and I'm never going back! It a lifestyle
As soon as I heard of Persian Meel swings I began using 15 oz 24" aluminum T-Ball bats to practice.
After 6 months I had lost 50 pounds and had added 2½ pound weights to each.
I also use kettlebells and a bamboo bo with 2½ pounds on each end.
I'm 60, have been using bo, meel, and kettlebells for a year now.
This is the first video I have watched about it, except for the Iron Sheik using 150 lb meels.
I do 300 meel swings
300 bo strikes & swings and 300 26 lb kettlebell swings daily.
I might buy a steel mace at one point but I got the T-Ball bats, bo, and the 26 lb kettlebell at Goodwill for under $20, so I doubt it.
Instead I will just add more reps.
In addition to the weight loss I've lost 4 inches off my waist, and am in better shape at 60 than I was in the Army at 25, doing PT every day.
I do have a Cavalry Saber from the 1800s that I occasionally wield, and this training has made that sword seem as light as a drumstick.
What an articulate explanation. I'm sold man! I'm getting a mace!
Yeah!! Good luck with your first swings 🌀
Great explanation. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. much appreciation.
Awesome video. I'm getting one today. Thank you
i agree 100%, whenever i have any sort of free time I grab my mace and have some fun. I've also studied many forms of weapons training and mace training makes my weapons feel so light. All the best to you Sir cause you got me into working with the mace. I also think your politeness and class is excellent.😃👍
As soon as I saw this kind of workout I thought I might as well start doing it with my 8lb maul. I know swinging a sledge or mail is already an excellent shoulder workout.
So gada movements are similar to many weapon movements?
That flow martial art form is what I will be using it for. Just ordered a 5 and 7 lb mace.
Gada is the main weapon of the Hindu God Hanuman ji. Known for his strength, Hanuman ji is traditionally worshipped by wrestlers in the Indian subcontinent and Southeast Asia, hence the use of gadas for strength training by wrestlers in akharas.
Lord Vishnu also carries a gada named Kaumodaki in one of his four hands.
Even thousands of years ago In the epic Mahabharata, the fighters Balarama, Bhima, Duryodhana, Jarasandha and others were said to be masters of the gada.
So the Mace comes from Bharat or India for sure.
Jai Shri Ram🙏
Jai Hanuman 🙏
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
What kind of proof you have? I am also Indian and world history proofs and archeological evidence confirm that 500 bc and later it was used which was mauryan time and they were not religious.
Please find archeological evidence of Rama then claim further. Please don't refer fake books,. Archeological survey of India, UNESCO can help you to study history with proof
I've trained Martial Arts for thirty years and as soon as I picked up a light Mace, I understood why the King of every civilization ever welds a mace!
Mace training contains most of the same movement patterns as using weapons and/or tools. It's the movement that defines us as humans I reckon!
I started swinging a mace and clubs about 2 months ago. I haven't gotten consistent yet but I'll pick it up randomly when watching TV and swing them around on top of when I do a routine.
Hey its like martial arts to a martial artist, but it reminds me of the twirling baton I had as a child. I like that there’s a great deal of delight involved in thus practice (play). Im not saying it is undisciplined but the concept of ‘working’ out is not so emphasized. Im not such a stoic person as to lift weights grimly and dutifully working all my muscle groups. The very sight of a bar bell makes me feel like a slave. I am very excited about the stretch and flow also. It appears as though the mace and its swing momentum actually help you stretch rather than dutifully holding tense poses until a certain count! And it looks very beautiful. I think it engages the mind more than other exercise tools.
Almost one year swinging Gada and mugdar I feel to strong Jai Siya Ram🙏🙏🙏🙏💪
That’s awesome, jai shree ram!
How many kgs gada?
@@Vamshk between. 25 to 30kgs
@@nilabhjaiswal1100 great.. how much did you start with?how much time do you spend on it daily?
I'm getting much needed inspiration here.
Thanks in advance
Jai Bajrangbali
@@Vamshk Bhai it takes daily one n half hours for practice I recommend you start with light weight then go for heavy one bco it's risky to use heavy weight gada for begginers so try light one then go for heavy slowly you will lift heavy gada easily even in one hand swing is easy for you but highly recommend for begginers start with light weight Jai Siya Ram
Absolutely love you content.
top explanation so far ..
Vielen herzlichen Dank für das Video. Es war hochinteressant.
I have been away for long, the new icon our channel haves now is looking great.
Great video thank you.
Nice information about mase ....Jay shri ram . जय हनुमान....जय flowing Dutch man
Great video. Really interesting information. Thanks
Glad to hear that! 🙏🏻
Excellent. Thank you.
Amazing extremely informative video ❤👍🏽
haven't seen the last one And it might be the best one
Great explanation brother, hope all is well!
Your last comments about the GADA are so beautiful. The GADA it could be there a life journey
Very nice description brother 😘😘❤❤
Mace or Gada is a weapon of Hanuman lord Banrangbali in Ramayana you can find it 😘😘❤❤ Jay Hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Great video!
Wrestled my entire life. Never thought about this. Now in jiu jitsu and about to take my arm throws to another level
Let’s go!!
I just ordered mine today.
gracias maestro un saludo de chaco argentina.
Have you ever seen Coach Vaughn's CZcams channel? Very extensive information about clubs and Maces and different variations of exercises that you could utilize the club in the Mace for.
Nice explanation coach
Seems like a good training for golf
This has to be mad good for both the lats and the long head of the triceps very interesting! Its like a pull over but on steriods no?
I started using macebells after recovering from a bone marrow transplant and loosing the use of my legs, nerves are re growing and I continue to recover well because of them. I was a landscaper / construction worker before I got sick and I needed something to remind my body of certain movements and regain my balance & fitness. Can't recommend them enough, it's not about heavy weights and treating your body like a piece of factory equipment, movement is more important.
Those flow patterns you do remind me of poi. Many years ago I had a roommate who spun poi. We'd eat shrooms and then he'd do fire poi in our backyard. (Safety first, lol) It looked super fun so I had him teach me the basics and a few simple tricks. Like you said, spinning objects around yourself really stretches your spatial awareness which you kind of have to feel through your body rather than rely on sight. And with poi, there's 2 to keep track of. Although poi are pretty light in comparison to a mace, they still pack a punch, especially considering they (seemingly) only ever hit you in the face or the balls. Hopefully that's not the case when I start with a mace.
Thanks sir waiting for another video
Bhai main bhi video bnata hon jodi ki saport kro or btao kis topic पर video chahte ho
I practice with staff forms and I can immediately see endless variations with the mace.
Great context, clear explanations, but why can't this video be added to playlists?
You had me at proprioception. Waiting for my ten pounder to arrive.
Keep it up. I am huge of you❤
I am huge of you too
Keep up the good work bro . Jai shree ram 🙏🏻💪🏻
Sir, if possible, feature also indian folk wrestling. Your videos are inspiring and informative.
What weight would you recommend for a beginner (with mace)?Im not new to lifting , former competitive powerlifter. Danke
Gada or Mace originated in India and the Persians adopted it. Indian temples and literature which go back thousands of years have wall carvings and pictures depicting the use of Gada as a weapon and a training tool. Where as in Iran you don't find any such mention going back longer than several hundreds of years.
They say that because of aryan invasion theory.
@@AJAYSINGH-ns1vv according to the aryan invasion theory the aryans invaded both India and Iran. Aryans are central Asian and not Iranian according to the theory.
Interestingly the so called Aryans introduced Gada in India long before they did it in Iran and did not bother to do it at all in their homeland in Central Asia. It doesn't add up.
@@IWillKillSomeDay, lot of things do not add up, I am trying to make up a list on that.
@@gshrdy5415 👍👍👍👍👍 Do share the list here.
Nice 1!
Thanks Broens!!
Is there a difference between swinging the 45 lbs plate and the mudgar sir???
Started using wooden 7.5 kg gada because i have to take a break from gym due to time constraints. Wanted something that I can readily pick up and do something with while food is cooking.
Great professional description: which macebell and clubbell exercise would you suggest the most to correct rounded shoulders?
Yes I've been curious about this as well
Flowing Dutchman! Quick question, is there a difference between a flow mace and a non-flow mace / heavier mace (other than the weight)? If yes, can you describe any specifications in terms of dimensions, give some description in terms of what we should look for in a flow mace, or recommend any brands for flow maces? I have a 10 lb and 15 lb mace (Great Lakes Girya), but sometimes feel the 10 lb is too long for flow, but I"m not certain (I'm 5'10").
Hey there Kyle, well I wouldn’t say there is much of a difference there. I can flow with every mace. The 10lbs mace does have a certain weight distribution which allows you to do swings close to the globe. This possibility decreases as you move up in weight because regularly the handle weight does not. The length of the handle matters in the same sense, if the handle is short and the weight heavy it disturbs the distribution. Same if the handle is long but the weight is low. Hope that helps!
every macebell guy has strong lats, so i think lats are greatly activated. I also feel them alot, along with my tricep (lot of long head here idk).
It was there in India. There are depictions in Mahabharata, Ramayana. It is used for both fitness and war
One thing i want to mention that by not choosing correct weight of gada you may hit your hips or spine .
A gada by itself is already blunt weapon. One originally practiced to be able to use the weapon well.
Otro gringo vendiéndolo felicidad. 😂😂😂. Suerte amigo.
I've watched your videos for a little while now and I've been thinking about adding this to my workout routine I have torn my rotator cuff and deltoid left and right shoulder in the past, if I was to use lighter weight is this something I could do to strengthen my shoulders or would you recommend staying away from it because of my past injuries?
I would pursue it troy, strengthening and moving will always be a better option than not doing that. Do approach with care, take a light mace, really focus on the fundamentals. Best to take a few sessions with a coach to make sure your technique is on point. Only go up in weight once it starts to feel really light.
I purchased 2 gaddas of 7 and 9 kg, from YuvrajSinh Gohil, Bhavnagar. Handle bars and private limited.
please share link i want 20 kg , i ordered 10 kg from amazone but it is so poor quality woor
@@parthpatil9606 20 kg gadda is too heavy. Gadda have to be bought 3 times lighter than Simple Magdals , as the weight is at one end. So, go for 8 kg, sir. I am also a bodybuilder, thats my advice for gadda mugdal.
@@brijpatel218 Hi is 10 kg mugdar heavy enough and good weight for building strength?
Does it help sports where a player needs to swing like baseball/badminton/cricket
Salut
Merci pour tes vidéos et ton partage.
Je suis attiré par cette discipline,je cherche à me former mais ne parle que français ,connaîtrais tu un formation ou un livre traduit en français.
Bonne continuation à toi
❤❤❤
Opening up with different training methods. Weights, kettlebells, Indian clubs, now thinking of mace training. I am a fitness trainer, 5-11 200 lbs. Should I go with the 10lb orc15lb mace to start ?
You sound like you're in good shape, I got a 15lb and regretted it a little bit, but swinging it pretty decently after some practice. If money is tight I think the 15 will be ok.
Have added all this too but also animal flow. I wish I knew about this 20 years ago but glad I found it at 56!
I was 5,000th like
Watched full video..
Was it good?
@@eztvlight1202 great.
So my question is can you use these movements to build up an endurance based cardio workout?
I don't mind if it takes a while to learn to use it that way just curious, because I mostly use Body weight training for strength and posture, mostly looking for something cardio and skill focused.
Continuous 360% definitely has a cardio / aerobic element
@@ForteanEnquirer Thank you kind sir.
bro u r a real Dutchman 🤣
Hot to get Gada and Mugdal for fitness.
Arguably the most manliness workout ever
Can i start with 5 kg or 10 kg ... please also tell me from where to buy these iron mace
I am from India and I am amazed by your steel mace and being a athlete in sport cricket I think it would be very important for me to increase the power output in shots and to make the swing of bat quicker. Can you please giveaway any of your light mace like this one?
This used to be the upper body strengthening exercise for swinging weapons in ancient India.
Dear Dutchman, Mace or Gada had its Presence in Thousands of years back in History.. To be Exact, Evidences date back atleast 7000 years ago in The Great Indian Epic History of MAHABHARATA..!!!
The Great Bhima, Duryodhana, Balarama and Many more Great Warriors were masters in Mace war tactics. In those Days Current Day Pakistan, Afganistan, Persia, Iran, Iraq was a Part of India also known as Akhand Bharat warsh.
I would request you to read more about the Epic History of MAHABHARATA and Great Epic of RAMAYANA (Which is surely much older than 14000 years as per Astrological Geographical Genetic evidences.) In RAMAYANA, Lord Hanumana (Devotee) of Lord Rama used Mace as his Chief Weapon.
Kindly once Go these Historical characters.
I would love to Hear back from You.
I Love to Watch your Videos and would love to see more of it.. Good Luck 👍👍👍
Gada/ Indian mace has been recorded thousands of years ago bro
In Hindu Scriptures
Especially Mahabharata
It makes for a great read
A political Drama with Fantastic Weapons, God, gods, demigods, mighty Warriors, Ascetics, Boons, curses, Priestly class, Vast empires, Dharma ( Circumstantial Moral/ Religious obligation) Epic Battles, Celestial Weapons capable of Destroying Planets etc
I'm curious could I use a sledge hammer in place of a mace?
yes
Still want to know where I can get them with pommel and also the shipping cost to America...
The long one? I got that from strengthshop.de
@@TheFlowingDutchman out of stock + $ to get here. i wonder about in america... :/
Thank you for a nice link I can refer people to when they ask so they can have a true third party opinion. Also I have a 30 pounder that I regret buying; anyone interested? Haha
Haha, yeah those heavy maces are tough to handle. It might suit you after a lot of time with lighter weights ;)
Actually it's just the style/overall cost. This one was "custom" and I just wish I had a few critical pauses to analyze it before buying. I'm actually up to 45 lbs. For about 25 reps at a time, but I do only a fraction of the flows you do at any weight. Also I've become a Great Lake Girya loyalist so I'm try to get most of their products. But once again maces are expensive. Haha
Great Video. Your website is down bro
action bronson must have watched this video too
Proud indian
from where to buy these maces?
Indian govt should make it like new sports and allow people from all around the world to participate. it was the lost material arts of India
Persia.
This is from India 🇮🇳 u also learn from here 👍
So give credit and respect
Mace training goes way way back to the ramayana where the Vanara clan were famous for their gada skills, Hanuman was from the Vanara clan. And in the Mahabharata Bhim, duryodhan and Balram were prominent Gada user and wrestling fighter. these skills are from the ancient history that got carried along todays history.
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What weight do you recommend for regular use?
Start with 5 kg
Now use a giant one and add spikes on it
All martial arts originated from India. In the very ancient time Gada, Archaer, Sword, Bhala, Mudgar etc were practiced and used in battlefield. No other country produced such thing, its ancient india who gave precious thing to the world. 💪🏻🙏🏻🇮🇳
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Gada originated from India
Ok I'm sold. What!? $50 CAD for a 10 lb mace? Anyone know how to DIY one of these bad boys?