NEW ATLAS Bot Deep Dive! FIGURE SUES Boston Dynamics?⚡Dr. Scott Walter
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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2024
- Explore the forefront of robotics in this insightful interview with aerospace engineer and robotics expert Scott Walter. In this episode, we dive into the latest advancements from Boston Dynamics with their new Atlas bot iteration, with its enhanced abilities in dynamic manipulation and creepy but effective ways of moving it's body.
We also discuss the intriguing developments surrounding Figure's new humanoid robot, Figure 01, a pioneering force in practical robotics, designed to perform complex tasks in environments like manufacturing and logistics. Notably, we cover the potential legal challenges faced by Boston Dynamics concerning the hip joint design of their Figure Bot, sparked by accusations from Figure's CEO.
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I was disappointed to see Brett say they had somehow patented the hip design. It's an obvious design, so if they got a patent on it then it should be challenged. These patents end up just being a way to keep the little guy out since companies like Figure and BD have lots of obvious patents, so if one sues the other, then they just settle on a cross licensing agreement and carry on, but then if a little guy comes along they will shoot them down with patent infringement, and the little guy can't afford to fight it. So it's basically the reverse of what the patent system was designed for.
This video marks a leap forward in the history of human robot technology development.
"Figure's" waist design is actually petman's ankle design from 2009 (15 years ago!) that they just slapped as a waist design and now claim Boston dynamics copied their design.
It's also the design for the first version of atlas's ankle back in 2013.
Brett trying really hard to earn his last name right now.
The One EYE Minion !!
Johnny 5: "Hey Atlas, you see those guys over there? They wanna take your books away!"
Atlas: 😮
The extreme flexability of the of the joints would lend itself to doing things on the assembly line that a human can't.
The robot doesn't need to nod yes or no for movements. All it has to do, is change the light color between Red/Green and maybe include Yellow for warning... Though warning could also be flashing red...
The head and torso both swiveled counterclockwise 180 degrees and pivoted clockwise 180 degrees. Does this mean that it can only pivot one direction?
7:13 as to the height, it makes sense making it smaller for development, because, same as with children, the falls are from lower height and thus not damaging the machine so easily as falls of a fully grown human sized bots. And again, easy to grow in the next iteration; the drawback is the interaction with the real world - the height of the work bench is different, also the hand tools are made for adult size etc (maybe its hands are the grown up size?)
The more the bot has a human form and motion the better it works all across all uses. That makes production easier and ramping up the total number of bots produced. It's also easier to train one body style over having lots of different styles to train. Tesla Optimus is going to be useful in all environments.
How are you going to patent a joint
Using the outlet on the floor behind the bot and scaling it up slightly for perspective I came up with 4.375" for the outlet box size and the bot is just over 9 full boxes which would make it approximately in the 5' 1 in to 5' 2 in range.
Isn't the similarity of Optimus to humans, including the natural motion ranges, one intentional constraint that Elon programmed into it, and the reason being that it shouldn't scare people by unnatural movements? It's also a security issue for cooperation with other humans - when people around it expect it making its next movements in the same way as humans do, it seems better/safer than when the "thing" suddenly turns its head and legs 180° and goes the opposite way. But time will tell, and programming this haunting moves isn't too hard if needed.
The antenna on his head was a good indicator as well as the vent. And do you think the face might be a very large camera lens i.e. telescopic?
It seems to me that these different robots coming out have different strengths and weaknesses. Areas that they are good in and less good in.
So take the best from all of them, mush it together - and voila - profit!
Mecanum wheels, which have the little wheels slanted all around them are typically used on the four corners of a robot so it can move in any direction, but put them all in a line, so that the robot still balances, but can screw itself along.
Put bicycle chain inside of Silicone Reinforced Braided Rubber Hose with pull cables to operate as fingers.
Everyone is going to want a piece of the action with robots. Who really knows who's ahead at this point. My suspicion is it's Tesla because of it's engineering/AI prowess, and my money is backing Tesla. The head guy at Figure has shown to be good at raising capitol, as he did for Archer Aviation, (and left with a bunch of $$ then starting Figure) but is not an engineer. Ponder that for a moment.
So it seems that the Bot war is heating up. Interesting how Boston Dynamics Atlas for many years just performed highly scripted party tricks and not useful for much else. Now all of a sudden it's beginning to look like they have upped their game and have finally started to develop a potentially usable bot. Competition among the bot makers is driving rapid advancement as no one wants to be left behind.
Was Gort electric too?
I saw a somewhat believable chart on reddit that puts the new Atlas at 5'9" tall and 180 pounds, Optimus at 5'11" and 103 pounds, Figure 01 at 5'6" and 121 pounds, Agility Digit at 5'9" and 146 pounds, Unitree H1 at 5'11" and 103 pounds, Sanctuary AI Phoenix at 5'6" and 154 pounds. The new Atlas looks like it has heavy, beefy actuators, lots of metal, and lots of cooling fans, so makes sense that it would be the heaviest. They are probably going after heavy industrial tasks that are too strenuous for a human to perform.
That chart is chock full of errors. E.g., Optimus is 5'8", not 5'11". Not trustworthy.
when it walks away its arms don't swing alternately but spazz about
How many axis does this bot have?
Three fingers is actually a fully functional hand. But to get a good grip on handles the third finger should be three fingers wide.
Like a human hand with the three outer fingers fused together.
Thumb, trigger finger, and the rest🙂
I would go by shoulder height, because the measurement to the top of head does not really matter except for running into the ceiling like happen to me in Italy.
If the Boston Dynamics video is playing at 1x speed, then Atlas Gen 2 looks like it walks at least 2x faster than Optimus. Is that possible?
Yes, Optimus uses a ball screw type gear reduction. It’s basically a truck when it comes to maneuvering.
What ever happened about the research on artificial muscles for robotics
Many bots will be manufactured. The best AI & autonomy will win
Five feet seems tall enough, millions of humans in that cohort, what's the issue?
Ok I jumped the gun, you did explain why although I think 5' is not an encumbrance
I think it's just a case of operational programming, depending on the bots operations parameters & location, no need for creepy actions lol surely. 🤔🇬🇧
To make it easier to guess, I'd say HD motors, this guy probably weighs 500 pounds? And looking at the window size and where his head is in comparison to the wall plates. 6 foot windows, 18" from the ground. I think this guy around 4',10"
Solution for most is to make the robot 4 legged.
I can imagine being taken care of by robot nurses, expecting to die, but instead waking up as one of these.....
Batteries vs Hydrogen Powered....
Great discussion. I think Tesla has an advantage with the FSD computer, batteries, manufacturing and AI. I think Optimus will make up half the work force at Tesla's Mexico plant. These humanoid bots for the home will have to be less than 10K.
It's a machine with metal legs.... And with ALL that engineering they can't make part of the leg length adjustable?
I fully understand, changing the length of the legs is going to impact on walking but really...
If the total height is such a big deal then I'm sure walking could be corrected for whatever height variations are desirable 🤔
I'm not a fan of the wrists, the hands, or that head!
I disagree with Scott, however, on one point. I think this design is perfect for the home.
A home bot needs the ability to maneuver in very tight spaces as Atlas II can.
Scott thinks "perfect for the home" includes being safe for around people. It should have no pinch points, have a soft surface, arms that give way if pushed on, and be light weight to avoid hurting people and breaking furniture when it stumbles.
@@Ralphie419 Yeah, but I think all these robot safety concerns go too far. Look what else we have in our homes - hot ovens, heaters, hot water systems, electricity. Cars kill over a million people a year!
Well it comes in different sizes….dah!
The US patents and patent law is pretty inane. It seems to be made to feed lawyers, and to hinder those trying to do stuff!
Too many trivial patents are accepted!
Didn't there used to be something about requiering a certain invention height?
Atlas II is a Star Wars Character !! Yes or No?
Is it helpful to focus on these changes in direction when the robot still runs like Joe Biden on bad days?
Hammer Industries?
Netflix Lost in Space robot
They copied the Face from Pixar's LAMP :) haha
Atlas will be likes the iPhone of humanoid robots. They are the best followed by Figure 01.
Try to make a non time waster video format. People don't want feature length movie time waste to fulfil your dreams of watchtime. Try to keep in mind that people have to want to watch it. It has to be worth their time. Not what you want people to do.
8:12 why should it be taller than average Korean?
A robot that looks like Ronald Regan
lol. The new Boston dynamics atlas is 6 foot tall.
Content warning in the real life
It was The Alchemist IBM Nazi Hydraulic DARPA War machine did first Atlas Robot Designed from the 40's. The New Electric is way more logical for everything. even less problems to go wrong with Full electric that is why most Power tools went Battery DC electric years ago. Electric is more clean only needs electron recharge no Gas or liquid pressure differences with chemical and oils through temperature changes. it will work better in Space also Even Mars. Them Old steam machine radioactive Powerplant thinking people were trying to make a terminator death bot for War when humans just need a VR/AR Full Electric Drones for Midnight MOON walks. Simulating a MMO Robot Star Wars Level Space Battle first person viewing with an Apple Vision Pro controlled by Xbox Live web info! Live Streaming On Netflix Paramount or Disney + as a New Sports game shows. The new Robot Space VR/AR Gaming Pros
Average height for American male is closer to 5’9” not 5’6”.
So if i make video on the same topic you will sue me. This is ridiculous
God should sue all the humanoid robot companies... well, the 4 legged ones too... because it is obvious they are inspired by the creators design
They probably shouldn't sue Boston Dynamics. They're a "top secret" defense contractor. And the judges work for the same company. (The government.)
Amercan male average is 5’9” Scott. You turned the 9 over in your head.
This is why i never listen to this guys videos. There are many examples of prior art regarding that joint, It’s just dumb to to even consider this as patent infringement.
The CEO of Figure said that this design from Boston Dynamics was infringing on their patents. Scott actually talked thoroughly about that this is not a uncommon design. And that it would be difficult to proof this "infringement".
Atlas II is just the PANIC mode of Boston Dynamics, as those capabilities are useful for... Circus? And... having Arthritis from fabrication (see the hands)...? Really?