Hey man! I've never subscribed, let alone joined or paid for a channel before but I just joined yours for the perks of being able to pick your brain every now and then. I just had two triumph bonnevilles delivered to Oregon from my childhood home in NY. One, my father and I built when I was a teenager and is completely custom and the other is an original, both 77's. All fluids were drained before delivery, and according to your video I already messed up by not adding the syringes of oil. I won't waste your time, but these bikes are priceless to me and I don't want to mess anything up without my father here to correct me.
Many thanks for your subscription, it is really appreciated. Always happy to help. I’d be interested to hear more about your bikes, I do like non-standard bikes and people different takes on style etc. The syringe of oil won’t break the bank, you should be ok as long as you get oil flow back into the tank. We all have to start somewhere, we all learn by our mistakes and I’m still learning.
I've only had my T140 for a few months, and really enjoyed the clear and concise demonstration. I've not had a Triumph for forty years, but plenty of others, and just got to enjoy old habits since the beginning of this year. I had a friend who rode a 73, back when it was new, and I was riding a Ducati 250, and I bought this one because of that experience. I had a 64 for five or six years, a TR6R, and I really enjoyed it, put quite a few thousand miles on it before foolishly selling it. Thanks for sharing your oil change, a welcome reminder of proper care.
I used to use Duckhams Hypergrade in my T140E 30 years ago. Had a Charlies paper oil filter on mine. I use to put some oil in the frame and leave it for half an hour to see if it leaked before adding all the oil. If you want to be really gentle you can take the plugs out and use the kickstart to bring the oil round to the return pipe. Used to change the oil every 1400 miles.
I had a '77 T140 too & the first thing i bought it was the oil filter conversion. Motorcycle mechanics had an exellent mid range tune for them which i had done when it was rebuilt & blueprinted by an engineer freind with hyde gaskets shortly after. Transformed the bike & I recommend it to any T140 owner.
I am glad the he showed how to remove the screen from the sump. This can be a huge problem area and can get plugged up over time. Thee is a full flow filter kit that fits inside the frame ad is a very good option for keeping your T140 running well.
I've watched several of your videos and you obviously have a meticulous approach to the work. Along with several other people I've seen on CZcams, you stress the importance of priming the crankcase with oil , and there is no harm in doing it (as long as you measure it carefully, as you do, and don't end up with the tank overfilled once the excess is returned), but, in the 29 years I've owned my T140V, I've done well over 40 oil changes and never found it necessary to do this. As soon as the engine starts, oil is pumped into the crankcase through the crank, and the few seconds it takes for the scavenge side of the pump to start picking this up is not enough to do any harm to the rockers and spindles, which have enough residual oil in them to keep them lubricated until the fresh oil comes through, which is only a gravity-fed dribble anyway. I'm not criticising your method, just offering an alternative view. I still enjoy watching your videos.
There's nothing wrong with either method TBH. If I didn't drain the crank then I wouldn't normally bother adding oil to it, and as you say as long as the tank isn't over filled then there's no problem. TBH I thought it worthwhile to do the whole process as someone may find it useful, or just a reason to shout at the screen... 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for kind words and thanks for watching.
@@bodganeering I DRAINED THE OIL OUT THE SUMPAND THEN I I FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN THE SUMP AND STARTED IT UP. IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO RETURN OIL TO THE FRAME. OIL LIGHT WENT OFF. OIL PUMPING THROUGH STRONGLY. APPEARS OK. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PRIME IT!
Depends if you're using UK or US pints, in UK pints it's 355ml. Not a major problem in this instance but in other applications you could end up with the wrong oil level which wouldn't be good... Thanks for watching.
I DRAINED THE OIL OUT THE SUMPAND THEN I I FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN THE SUMP AND STARTED IT UP. IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO RETURN OIL TO THE FRAME. OIL LIGHT WENT OFF. OIL PUMPING THROUGH STRONGLY. APPEARS OK. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PRIME IT!
Hi there, iv got a Triumph 3ta 1965 would you know what's the engine oil I'll need ? Primarily chaincase oil ? And gearbox oil . My dad usually takes care of it be he past away recently so it down to me now . Thanks 😊
From what I have found in an old manual. Oil 5 pints (2.8L) Primary 1/2 pint (300cc) Gearbox 2/3 pint (375cc) Manual says 20W30 engine oil, I would go for a mineral based designed for older engines. Gearbox any EP90 gear oil. Link for the manual I referenced: triumph-tiger-90.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Workshop-Manual.pdf Hope this helps.
Just wondering, while you roll around on the floor doing this, is there a perfectly good bike lift in the garage with a "project" sitting on it for months? Or is it just me?
A bike lift? I could only ever dream of such luxuries, block of wood if I’m lucky, working 25 hours a day getting up for work before I even got to bed. Sorry, went a bit Monty Python then.
Total oil capacity is 4 imperial pints, not US pints. 150cc into the primary case. 500cc into the crankcase. Remainder into the oil tank to the correct level on the dipstick.
Could be but I cannot be 100% certain. If you go to manualslib.com and search for the Tiger workshop manual you will find all the information in there. It’s free to register and download.
I'll be completely honest and say I haven't got a clue as I'm in the UK. I would select an oil that has been formulated for older engines and a full mineral oil as synthetic oils contain additives that can cause clutch slip. something with a higher zinc content is often recommended as this reduces wear. I have also heard that modern oils can 'corrode' silver solder which may be present in older engines which wouldn't be good, although how true this is I'm not sure, better safe than sorry. Thanks for watching.
Possibly the best motorcycle oil change video on the web.
There’s this bloke called Del that does some good ones, I pale in comparison…
Hey man! I've never subscribed, let alone joined or paid for a channel before but I just joined yours for the perks of being able to pick your brain every now and then. I just had two triumph bonnevilles delivered to Oregon from my childhood home in NY. One, my father and I built when I was a teenager and is completely custom and the other is an original, both 77's. All fluids were drained before delivery, and according to your video I already messed up by not adding the syringes of oil. I won't waste your time, but these bikes are priceless to me and I don't want to mess anything up without my father here to correct me.
Many thanks for your subscription, it is really appreciated. Always happy to help.
I’d be interested to hear more about your bikes, I do like non-standard bikes and people different takes on style etc.
The syringe of oil won’t break the bank, you should be ok as long as you get oil flow back into the tank.
We all have to start somewhere, we all learn by our mistakes and I’m still learning.
Glad you shared your systematic routine on you tube, nothing too fancy and down to earth. Thanks!
I've only had my T140 for a few months, and really enjoyed the clear and concise demonstration. I've not had a Triumph for forty years, but plenty of others, and just got to enjoy old habits since the beginning of this year. I had a friend who rode a 73, back when it was new, and I was riding a Ducati 250, and I bought this one because of that experience. I had a 64 for five or six years, a TR6R, and I really enjoyed it, put quite a few thousand miles on it before foolishly selling it. Thanks for sharing your oil change, a welcome reminder of proper care.
Great video. Very nicely filmed and explained
Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it.
I used to use Duckhams Hypergrade in my T140E 30 years ago. Had a Charlies paper oil filter on mine. I use to put some oil in the frame and leave it for half an hour to see if it leaked before adding all the oil. If you want to be really gentle you can take the plugs out and use the kickstart to bring the oil round to the return pipe. Used to change the oil every 1400 miles.
I had a '77 T140 too & the first thing i bought it was the oil filter conversion. Motorcycle mechanics had an exellent mid range tune for them which i had done when it was rebuilt & blueprinted by an engineer freind with hyde gaskets shortly after. Transformed the bike & I recommend it to any T140 owner.
I am glad the he showed how to remove the screen from the sump. This can be a huge problem area and can get plugged up over time. Thee is a full flow filter kit that fits inside the frame ad is a very good option for keeping your T140 running well.
Thanks mate, really good video and very helpful
Thanks for your video.
Helps a lot
I've watched several of your videos and you obviously have a meticulous approach to the work. Along with several other people I've seen on CZcams, you stress the importance of priming the crankcase with oil , and there is no harm in doing it (as long as you measure it carefully, as you do, and don't end up with the tank overfilled once the excess is returned), but, in the 29 years I've owned my T140V, I've done well over 40 oil changes and never found it necessary to do this. As soon as the engine starts, oil is pumped into the crankcase through the crank, and the few seconds it takes for the scavenge side of the pump to start picking this up is not enough to do any harm to the rockers and spindles, which have enough residual oil in them to keep them lubricated until the fresh oil comes through, which is only a gravity-fed dribble anyway. I'm not criticising your method, just offering an alternative view. I still enjoy watching your videos.
There's nothing wrong with either method TBH. If I didn't drain the crank then I wouldn't normally bother adding oil to it, and as you say as long as the tank isn't over filled then there's no problem.
TBH I thought it worthwhile to do the whole process as someone may find it useful, or just a reason to shout at the screen... 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for kind words and thanks for watching.
@@bodganeering I DRAINED THE OIL OUT THE SUMPAND THEN I I FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN THE SUMP AND STARTED IT UP. IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO RETURN OIL TO THE FRAME. OIL LIGHT WENT OFF. OIL PUMPING THROUGH STRONGLY. APPEARS OK. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PRIME IT!
Wow that was some serious milked-out oil from the first spot. Nice how to...!
When mr honda left the infamous Johnson Motors visit he laughed so hard he almost pissed himself.
can you also fill the transmission through that inspection cover on the right side that screws off and allows you to change the clutch cable?
Good thanks Mr
Bodganeering 5/8ths of a pint into motor is 300 ml
Depends if you're using UK or US pints, in UK pints it's 355ml. Not a major problem in this instance but in other applications you could end up with the wrong oil level which wouldn't be good...
Thanks for watching.
And that was a question I was going to ask ,lol
oh wait, so is it 500ml or 300 ml into the crankcase?
ive used full synthetic in my t140v for over 20 years, never had the clutch slip yet
Me too
I DRAINED THE OIL OUT THE SUMPAND THEN I I FORGOT TO PUT OIL IN THE SUMP AND STARTED IT UP. IT TOOK A FEW MINUTES TO RETURN OIL TO THE FRAME. OIL LIGHT WENT OFF. OIL PUMPING THROUGH STRONGLY. APPEARS OK. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PRIME IT!
How many cc do you put into the crackcase? 500cc?. Then 150 cc on primary & rest up to 2.2 liters into the frame? Thanks
355cc in the crank, 150cc in the primary. The oil will self level, this just gives it a head start.
Hi there, iv got a Triumph 3ta 1965 would you know what's the engine oil I'll need ? Primarily chaincase oil ? And gearbox oil . My dad usually takes care of it be he past away recently so it down to me now . Thanks 😊
From what I have found in an old manual.
Oil 5 pints (2.8L)
Primary 1/2 pint (300cc)
Gearbox 2/3 pint (375cc)
Manual says 20W30 engine oil, I would go for a mineral based designed for older engines. Gearbox any EP90 gear oil.
Link for the manual I referenced: triumph-tiger-90.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Workshop-Manual.pdf
Hope this helps.
Just wondering, while you roll around on the floor doing this, is there a perfectly good bike lift in the garage with a "project" sitting on it for months? Or is it just me?
A bike lift? I could only ever dream of such luxuries, block of wood if I’m lucky, working 25 hours a day getting up for work before I even got to bed.
Sorry, went a bit Monty Python then.
What is the grease you are applying to the gasket?
It’s Hylomar Blue non setting gasket paste. If some gets into the oil system it won’t block oil galleries unlike silicone based sealants.
@@bodganeering thanks
How many syrings went into the first place you put oil? How much total oil did you use?
Total oil capacity is 4 imperial pints, not US pints.
150cc into the primary case.
500cc into the crankcase.
Remainder into the oil tank to the correct level on the dipstick.
Thanks you!!
Would the amounts be the same for an 73 tiger 750?
Could be but I cannot be 100% certain. If you go to manualslib.com and search for the Tiger workshop manual you will find all the information in there.
It’s free to register and download.
@@bodganeeringI can’t thank you enough for Sal your help I really appreciate it . Safe riding
Is that oil available in the states ?
I'll be completely honest and say I haven't got a clue as I'm in the UK. I would select an oil that has been formulated for older engines and a full mineral oil as synthetic oils contain additives that can cause clutch slip. something with a higher zinc content is often recommended as this reduces wear.
I have also heard that modern oils can 'corrode' silver solder which may be present in older engines which wouldn't be good, although how true this is I'm not sure, better safe than sorry.
Thanks for watching.
@@bodganeering thanks man.
Appreciate you
Mate!!!!!how dirty is your oil ???
That's shocking
Might have been slightly overdue a change… 🧐😂
Yup!