Technical insight into connecting batteries in parallel.

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Komentáře • 106

  • @octoma
    @octoma Před 2 lety +9

    Simple and straight forward. This is exactly what I was looking for.
    Thank you.

  • @user-xv5iw5zh4m
    @user-xv5iw5zh4m Před 11 měsíci +5

    The problem with paralleling batteries it that they never are at exactly the same voltage. There are always equalising currents flowing between them. And the bigger the gap in internal resistance - the bigger such a current will be, no to mention that the external currents will divide not exactly as you have planed

  • @rayhughes8240
    @rayhughes8240 Před 3 lety +15

    The detail of the information and the easy explanation is excellent. Best video I have seen on this topic. Thank you

  • @Intrafacial86
    @Intrafacial86 Před rokem +2

    I about shit myself at 12:50 when I heard the baby. Sounded just like it was downstairs in my home!

  • @teallhaycock9316
    @teallhaycock9316 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent video!! Very helpful, thank you for this info and the detail explained so well

  • @Weowtech
    @Weowtech Před 2 lety

    Thank you, nice job explained this and why batteries do what they do spreading the amps draw when connecting to parallel. and also the importance of same voltage when making connection.

  • @Yorkshirewild
    @Yorkshirewild Před 2 lety +1

    I don’t usually comment but this is a absolutely fabulous video and explanation thank you so much.

  • @adrian.zyskowski2145
    @adrian.zyskowski2145 Před 2 lety

    Just what I was looking for Perfect Easy explanation thank you

  • @tanzim4952
    @tanzim4952 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the detailed video.

  • @williamwindex3890
    @williamwindex3890 Před 2 lety

    Thanks man.. nice to double check with you!

  • @falkodenherder
    @falkodenherder Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this mate, you're saving my grad proposal with this

  • @edwinrebece9832
    @edwinrebece9832 Před rokem

    Wow thank you! I understand now .. cause I was planning to get an extender pack for my e scooter but at a lower capacity so I was worried of burning my other battery if I connect them in parallel.. anyway thank you this video was a big help.

  • @malai5143
    @malai5143 Před 2 lety

    That water level metaphor blow my mind. Never thought bout that. 🤯

  • @thegreenlife2663
    @thegreenlife2663 Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much! nice explaining!!!

  • @Esk-be8kd
    @Esk-be8kd Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! Adding a battery to my e scooter

  • @alwaysforever4792
    @alwaysforever4792 Před 2 lety

    Very clear and informative.. :)

  • @andruss2001
    @andruss2001 Před rokem

    Thanks! Great explanation.

  • @monkeytonker4637
    @monkeytonker4637 Před 3 lety +1

    Great vid well explained

  • @frankiebuttigieg3624
    @frankiebuttigieg3624 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice video .have a question.can 2 75 amp 1 80amp and 1 85 amp battry be connected together in paraell

  • @207matthew
    @207matthew Před 5 měsíci

    Took me three years to find your information... everybody else I consulted was just wrong!

  • @bestillandknowthatuaregod

    for 10 batts hooked in parallel 12v 70 amp each would a 80a circuit breaker installed between the batts and the charge controller be ok or is has to be greater amp breaker?

  • @stonesteven575
    @stonesteven575 Před rokem

    For charging a small and a big battery could u bridge it one terminal on positive of one battery and one terminal of other battery on negative? Or is it recommended to charge seperate

  • @bumpylump9236
    @bumpylump9236 Před 3 lety

    100% on the money. This is correct info. 12 only will equal out just make sure every battery start with close voltage.

  • @koyarbakir775
    @koyarbakir775 Před 3 lety

    Hi can I connect 2 2200mah 1c batteries and discharge them at 4amps?

  • @kamote4854
    @kamote4854 Před 3 lety +2

    What if I put a BMS with lower Amp rating on the pack with lower capacity, Would they still discharge at the same rate? What If I put a BMS with higher Amp rating, would it limit the discharge rate of the pack with the lower capacity to adjust to the pack with the higher capacity? Thanks. I still have a lot of questions in my mind that I would like to ask hope that you could answer my question.

  • @bgreen8565
    @bgreen8565 Před 2 lety

    great video well done

  • @boypalaboy4309
    @boypalaboy4309 Před rokem +1

    If i have both 60v but different 25ah the other is 70ah is fine?

  • @Jenuin
    @Jenuin Před 2 lety +5

    You could put the load (red) on the other side of the battery array and still be in parallel which would give you equal charging and discharging capabilities. It would also increase the battery life expectancy because it’s better balanced. Often the battery at the beginning of a parallel circuit does the majority of the work will the battery at the end does the least. Food for thought. Balance your load. =] LoL

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes with a battery with traditional terminals. A little hard to do with our waterproof leads 😀

  • @gr8gau
    @gr8gau Před 2 lety +1

    I want to use two recharagable batteries in parallel, though I understand their will be voltage difference between them. I want to avoid any flow of charge from higher to lower voltage battery is their any way this may be avoided ? Thanks

  • @shohedulislamnaim1410

    Great brother 🤠

  • @kevmack101
    @kevmack101 Před rokem +1

    Hey on my one battery i have2 +s and 2 -s wire going in to each controller but my second battery only has 1+ and 1 -. Can I get away with just hooking it up to only 1+ & negative on the first battery

  • @petetrimble2698
    @petetrimble2698 Před rokem

    While I understand you want the batteries at the same voltage when connecting ... if you need to ... is there a way to protect the battery/limit the current (in particular with lifepo4 or would the BMS control this for you?)

  • @arafat_hamza
    @arafat_hamza Před 2 lety

    Many many thanks ❤️

  • @linnpyaemaung9862
    @linnpyaemaung9862 Před 2 lety

    So, i have to fully charge two same voltage, different capacity batteries in order to connect them in parallel and use, is it like that, Sir?

  • @L.V-Rider
    @L.V-Rider Před 3 měsíci

    I am not an electrician but a financial guy. My one friend is an electrician but he is not an expert on batteries. I understand this concept of paralleling different capacity batteries as I am doing it for years. He falls back on his book knowledge and say it can't be done and after a lot of discussion he still say I am wrong and it will damage the batteries.

  • @camster1649
    @camster1649 Před 2 lety

    Very useful knowledge..

  • @gayansanjeewa1359
    @gayansanjeewa1359 Před rokem

    sir can you explain about wire gauge for those parallel need. my problem is when we gain out put with higher A level what wire gauge should use..? i am new to this electric side so kindly can you do a video thank you.

  • @Moonja_paaru
    @Moonja_paaru Před 2 lety

    Sir,,,80ah and 40 ah parallel connect,,,,
    Any problems comming,,,,,,,

  • @galaxiethinker183
    @galaxiethinker183 Před 10 měsíci

    Can i parrel 2 same volt batteries but have diffrent Max continuous discharge current: 20A and 30A

  • @CosmicCreationsDIY
    @CosmicCreationsDIY Před měsícem

    Will the total deplete faster mixing Ah ? Scooter batteries I have 2x12v20ah and 2 other 12v with one 7.5ah and one 12ah
    Would this be ok to run in parallel for 48v

  • @teriistevens3674
    @teriistevens3674 Před rokem

    Thank you 👍

  • @henryhatton1441
    @henryhatton1441 Před rokem

    What about series?

  • @dharmakissoon
    @dharmakissoon Před 3 lety

    same volt and different can be mix in parallels there is a formula for the total ams

  • @FrankLowe1949
    @FrankLowe1949 Před 24 dny

    Very nice thank you.❤❤

  • @Bulmaimi
    @Bulmaimi Před 3 lety +1

    What if you put 2 different batteries with different voltages, and you put a diode at the end of the lower voltage battery, will it run normally and protect the lower voltage battery from overcharge and explosion?

    • @shaunhw
      @shaunhw Před rokem

      Diodes conduct current only when voltage (potential) is higher on anode than cathode. So if you connected a high current diode with its anode at the positive terminal of a lower voltage battery, and its cathode at the intended "parallel" (+ve) connection of the higher voltage battery, then that diode would become reversed biased, (IE: higher voltage on cathode than anode) and would pass no current at all from the lower voltage battery. Even multiple diodes with anodes connected to different voltage batteries +ve terminals (with all diode cathodes on an outgoing parallel bus) will be reversed biased on lower voltage sources. So no, it would not work. Only when a higher voltage battery discharged to a voltage lower than the diode connected to a lower voltage battery, would the diode conduct, and the resulting voltage would be the lower battery voltage. (Ignoring voltage reduction across the diodes.)

  • @KetansaCreatesArt
    @KetansaCreatesArt Před 2 lety +1

    Very well explained. Another question rises - What if the smaller 12v battery is used for a while and the bigger 12v battery is fresh? The smaller one suposedly have lost 20% of its ability. Will it act like a leach to the bigger battery all the time and create power loss?

    • @leighharvey9150
      @leighharvey9150 Před 2 lety +1

      Not an expert but I would expect so. As the batteries discharge the voltage drops as well. So by running them seperately the voltage of the flat battery is lower than the fully charged battery.

    • @ras5056
      @ras5056 Před 2 lety +1

      As the battery ages, I would imagine the "tank" capacity just gets smaller. The fully charges and discharge voltages are still the same. So in his example, the 7.5ah or (300liter tank) just becomes smaller. It still contributes but much less over time.

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Před rokem

    Parallel lead acid batteries can help charge one that won't accept a charge due to high internal resistance...or i think even a capacitor in parallel can do the same

  • @jameshuynh5436
    @jameshuynh5436 Před 3 lety +1

    So I can parallel 2 same type 12v. But 200ah. And 100ah. Should be ok ?

    • @pelecho
      @pelecho Před 2 lety

      I don’t think so. The 200ah it’s gonna be working really hard

  • @tristanalmiranez
    @tristanalmiranez Před 3 lety

    What if the load only needs 3 amps and I do parallel does my load still get forced 6 amps or will the batteries adjust to 3 amps

  • @ogztnr5581
    @ogztnr5581 Před 3 lety +1

    thanks great.how can i balance 2 batteries with resistor

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 Před 3 lety

      Lots of videos online showing you how! Too hard to explain via typing!

  • @earthenergyhex
    @earthenergyhex Před 3 lety +1

    It doesnt matter if I have 2-12v 115AH batteries and 2-12v 35AH batteries? I can connect them parallel for my 400W solar panels?

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 Před 3 lety

      Yes as long as you don't exceed the maximum charge rate on the batteries.

  • @rizwanrafiq497
    @rizwanrafiq497 Před 3 lety

    Excellent Video i need help please reply
    can i put Analog / digital dc amp meter on parallel batteries for showing amps when charging and discharging from batteries all the time ?
    is that this analog / digital dc amp meter draw some amps from battery ?
    Thank you

    • @lomgshorts3
      @lomgshorts3 Před 3 lety

      You can buy fairly inexpensive nanometers to mount on each battery to compare charge rates. eBay has them for about $6 US. the last time I bought a half dozen. While not totally accurate, they give you a good idea of how many amps are going to each battery. GOOD LUCK!

  • @lezmac3104
    @lezmac3104 Před 3 lety +3

    Informative..can you tell us the formula on how you came up with the figures of 3.6A and 2.4A?..because when I did ratio calculation I end up with 4.26A for the 17.5ah and 1.74A for the 7ah = 6Amps..but you said in the video that you calculate it with the internal resistance..please can you give me the equation formula on how to calculate including internal resistance?..thanks for the video..

  • @funnynews2003
    @funnynews2003 Před 2 lety

    excellent

  • @raafe4
    @raafe4 Před rokem

    Thanks bro

  • @johngenoni1927
    @johngenoni1927 Před 2 lety

    do you need to use parallel lead or use pig tail to join
    can you connect 1 charger to leader and charge both at same time or do you need to charge seperatly

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 Před 2 lety

      Use the parallel lead. You can charge both together but charge times will be doubled. Both batteries should be charged full before putting the batteries together in parallel.

    • @johngenoni1927
      @johngenoni1927 Před 2 lety

      @@brandongoh8900 thanks will do have ourchased your new green light and pro charger and usb charger and hub for my new hobbie pro 12 foot 360 so may have a another question later thanks for guidance

  • @ashokkalagara8378
    @ashokkalagara8378 Před 3 lety

    Can i operate 30 Ah and 80 Ah in parallel in an inverter circuit

  • @marlondayrit233
    @marlondayrit233 Před 3 lety

    My question is: can I parallel a 12v 65ah car battery and 12v 50ah deep cycle solar battery?

    • @secretagent5333
      @secretagent5333 Před 3 lety +1

      It depends. If your goal is short term, and the voltages match, then yes. The problem comes when it depletes under 50%. Your car battery will not like that, but the deep cycle might be okay with a lower percentage. Also, the load is a big question. Solar batteries are not designed with peak load in mind, car batteries are built for peak load/start the engine/. So yes, you can, but several things to take into consideration, to avoid damaging your batteries.

  • @jasonbroom7147
    @jasonbroom7147 Před rokem

    Are you intentionally ignoring internal resistance or do you just feel it is not enough of a concern to bring into this discussion?

  • @wadafaq466
    @wadafaq466 Před rokem

    I love ur explanation
    Just one question when u say the batterie should be at the same voltage you mean full charge ? With the condition of knowing that the specs of the batteries are for example 48v 21ah and 48v 13ah
    I should know my both batteries are at 48 v when they are fully charged yes ? And 0 v when they are fully spent i hope i got this right 😅

    • @r.vargas5410
      @r.vargas5410 Před 6 měsíci

      FYI 48v batteries fully charge at 54.6v and cut off discharge is 39v ,At Least For Ebikes

  • @InspiredScience
    @InspiredScience Před rokem

    Are you certain this is accurate with Li-on/LiFePO4, because they have *flat voltage curves*. Your premise is that due to the significant drop of voltage with SLA/AGM/GEL batteries -- the batteries will discharge proportionately based upon their capacity, which is correct. *However,* when you have batteries whose voltage does not go down for the bulk of their discharge (as with LFP) then this premise wouldn't hold true.

  • @GMTV-yy4ir
    @GMTV-yy4ir Před 3 lety

    If you conect to series but its not the same voltage what will happen?

    • @marks9127
      @marks9127 Před 3 lety +3

      Nothing. Parallel is used to combine Ah with same voltage (12v 50Ah + 12v 150Ah = 12v 200Ah). Series is used to combine voltages with same capacity (12v 50Ah + 24v 50Ah = 36v 50Ah).

    • @crisolivo1
      @crisolivo1 Před 3 lety

      @@marks9127 I Mark thanks for your answer.
      I have a huge bank of batteries of 1.2v each but I have different capacities to connect them in series for example I have 36 batteries of 1.2volt 138 Amps each but I need 4 more batteries in order to get 48volt battery bank. Can I add 4 more batteries of 1.2V with 180 Amps of capacity?

  • @richardphillips2405
    @richardphillips2405 Před 4 měsíci

    I have been trying to figure out how much current each battery would contribute to the 6A required. I've tried figuring by the Ah ratio of each battery compared to the total Ah of the batteries connected together. So 17.5 Ah + 7 Ah = 24.5 Ah. With a 6A load the batteries would last 4.08 Ah. Things fall apart after this. I tried to figure out how much each battery is giving. I divided 17.5 Ah / 24.5 Ah = 71% for the first battery and I got 29% for the second battery. How do you figure out how much current would be drawn from each battery? Also, this is assuming a linear relationship. I am interested in this because I am playing with solar panels and golf cart batteries. With one test, powering an inverter @ 12V 50A the solar panels were supplying 20A and the batteries were supplying 30A. I don't know how to figure this out with the math. What determines how much current comes from the batteries and how much current comes from the solar panels? Thanks in advance for any comments or ideas.

    • @yasyasmarangoz3577
      @yasyasmarangoz3577 Před 2 měsíci

      What in the hell are you talking about?
      Did you mix the units?

    • @richardphillips2405
      @richardphillips2405 Před 2 měsíci

      @@yasyasmarangoz3577 Never mind. After thinking about it, it probably has more to do with the internal resistance of each battery.

  • @Jbogator
    @Jbogator Před 7 měsíci

    Whats a safe voltage difference between 2 battery packs before connecting in parallel?

    • @salesfpvpower7858
      @salesfpvpower7858 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hi Mate,
      Get the batteries within half a volt before you connect them together in parallel.

    • @Jbogator
      @Jbogator Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@salesfpvpower7858got it. Thanks

  • @jarmiyayadav1599
    @jarmiyayadav1599 Před rokem

    Sir can i make 12v battery by using 3.7v different capacity of batteries means
    All are 3.7v batteries but
    1200+1200+2000=4400mah ,3.7v
    1200+1200+2000=4400mah,3.7v
    1200+1200+2000=4400mah,3.7v
    Like this total 9cells
    One set contains 3cells=4400(1200+1200+2000)
    So 3sets = 11.1v 4400mah
    Can I make it ? Is it safe

  • @ferozkhatri8565
    @ferozkhatri8565 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video, i have a question
    i have 2 185AH Batteries connected in parallel working fine but i want to know how amp using each battery when i put on load or charging ?
    can i put 2 digital amp meters ( like a volt meter ) on each battery for see the load and charging amp of individual batteries ?
    i am waiting for your reply
    Thanks in advance

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 Před 3 lety +1

      You only need to know the total amp draw or charging amps. Batteries in parallel will always split the load in half.

    • @ferozkhatri8565
      @ferozkhatri8565 Před 3 lety

      @@brandongoh8900 thanks so i need to put a single digital amp meter on battery 1 positive and battery 2 negative i hope that will show total amp draw and charge ?
      I am waiting for your reply
      Thanks

    • @brandongoh8900
      @brandongoh8900 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ferozkhatri8565 yes that is correct. Or if you have a clamp type amp Meter you can use that to take your amp draw reading instead.

    • @ferozkhatri8565
      @ferozkhatri8565 Před 3 lety

      @@brandongoh8900 suggest me , i think i can use digital dc amp meter because it will show amps when charging and discharging from batteries all the time without any hassale ?
      2 is that this disgital dc amp meter draw some amps from battery ?
      3. is that safe to attach digital dc amp meter with battery ?
      Thank you so much for your help

    • @petsonly4068
      @petsonly4068 Před 2 lety

      @@brandongoh8900 what about batteries connected in parallel with same voltage and different capacities? Do they split the current draw in half or divide the load according to the capacity? What about charging? Does the higher capacity battery charge with more current?

  • @OmarELKADMIRI
    @OmarELKADMIRI Před rokem +1

    7Ah battery will provide 1.71A and 17.5Ah battery will provide 4.28A

  • @user-uh3bi2gi3g
    @user-uh3bi2gi3g Před 3 lety

    If i have motor work on 32v can i share 2 battre 12v and 20v or this dangerous thank you for everything

  • @salifuharuna6849
    @salifuharuna6849 Před 2 lety

    Genius

  • @Road2Milli
    @Road2Milli Před 2 lety

    MVP

  • @muvirimig
    @muvirimig Před 3 lety

    thanks on the last past

  • @exklimexklim
    @exklimexklim Před 2 lety

    There’s a problem you forgot to mention.
    What if they’re different brand pack: One pack LG the other Pack Chinese.

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 Před rokem

    I wouldn't say wires act like fuses I've burnt stuff or fried batteries but the wires were perfectly fine. People might miss your point and literally think that the wires will burn before something worse happens. Caution.

  • @fivish
    @fivish Před rokem

    How would you ensure the voltages are the same? Its very unlikely they would be so they would rapidly self discharge. Clearly you never actually tried this for real.

    • @iangoh7289
      @iangoh7289 Před rokem

      from your question... it shows your lack of knowledge on how batteries work... when u connect two batteries they will self-equalize..... why don't YOU go and test it first .... and report back... use any battery... say a 12v lead acid... 100ah and another one at 150ah etc... Clearly.. u HAVE never tired this.. lol

  • @johnbrown6189
    @johnbrown6189 Před 4 měsíci

    Your water analogy is incorrect. The water pressure at the bottom of each tank will be exactly the same. Therefore the flow rate will be the same from each tank. If l measure the water pressure at 100 meters in the ocean and l measure the water pressure in a 100 meter 1 meter diameter tube the water pressure will be the same. And the ocean has a lot water in than the pipe. Batteries do the same .

  • @laryangel4082
    @laryangel4082 Před rokem

    Tt

  • @lomgshorts3
    @lomgshorts3 Před 3 lety

    If you parallel two or more batteries, the voltages must be within .2V, and the capacities must match. The date codes MUST match! This is especially true among solar power systems, or automotive applications. You must match the charging amperage of your alternator for the car/truck batteries that are paralleled or neither battery will ever be fully charged. Keep the tops of your batteries squeaky clean, or you will create a high impedance short that will make your solar or alternator work much harder to charge up the batteries. This is especially true in car/ truck batteries up in the "rust belt". That dust that collects on the top of your battery is actually not dirt, but powdered rust from other vehicles that will short out the battery by making a path between terminals on your battery. Always use distilled water to clean the top of the battery, a dampened cloth will do fine.

  • @frankbelluccia2689
    @frankbelluccia2689 Před rokem

    It does not work that way.
    A battery is an electro-chemical device. Ohm's law applies only electrically. Battery internal resistance is dynamic, it changes under load, Ohm's law follows the chemistry, not the other way round. The video presumes chemistry ill follow Ohm's law. It will not!!! A test would not be very difficult, or expensive, to perform.
    New batteries will differ minimally, as they age, it will be statistically impossible for two such batteries to follow Ohm's law as claimed in the video.

  • @josepeixoto3384
    @josepeixoto3384 Před rokem

    Oº.ºOps... know what you are saying; go learn practical stuff before talking»»»» a 24 volt and a 12 volt batteries in parallel *IS NO ff EXAMPLE**
    They WILL eat each other, E X P L O D E
    Choose better examples
    edit at 04:00 you say it

  • @zeljkozerjavic7008
    @zeljkozerjavic7008 Před 8 měsíci

    Use tiny leads will be evaporated and protect battery. Other put diodes before junction so current can go ONLY OUT OF BATTERY BUT NOT INTO BATTERY.