i found chuncks of bowmen mixed with x bow men with a bunch of shields approaching slow but steady better. The horse archer are to big of a target for the slingshot stone tower defense.
I like that you brought up population efficiency, which I feel was ignored quite a bit in your unit tier list video. I feel like most people don't realize that population is a resource in this game just like gold. In larger missions, population space is one of, if not THE most important resource in the game due to how little troop you're allowed to build and how much you have to deal with. When playing missions like 80, that "Your army is approaching its maximum size" scares me more than any attack for this exact reason.
I didn't ignore it, but there was too much to consider when making the tierlist, different starting economies, different maps, peasant efficiency and etc Unit cap is also the reason why knights and swordsmen went up on the list even though monks just destroy them, but let's say horse archers are S+ but if we're playing on a defensive map with little resources they become one of the worst units. I said this before if Stronghold Crusader was played on a default setting by most players (And there was some standards for maps) making a tier list would be so much easier then
@@olik1228 It goes up and down depending on how many players are in the game (On extreme I think it doesn't matter) On last mission it's around 300, and it's a 7 player match
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i found chuncks of bowmen mixed with x bow men with a bunch of shields approaching slow but steady better. The horse archer are to big of a target for the slingshot stone tower defense.
the archers can defeat tiny units like archers spearmen horsmen archers which is more faster the crossbowen can defeat swordsmen knights and armored units so easily the best range is 25 crossbowmen 20 or 25 Archers
Crossbowmen for armored units like Swordsmen, Arabian Swordsmen, Pikemen, or Knights, Arabian Archers for quick, deadly, and numerous units like Macemen or Monke, Mangonels for Horse Archers and some siege units like Portable Shield, and Ballista for Trebuchet and additional defensive forces.
There's also one more thing: Since Euro Archers are so cheap and can be made on mass they can actually sometimes be a cost efficient unit in melee. Granted, monks are a thing but it's a viable desperation tactic. They also can fill moats faster
Yup, and Fletcher's workshop is almost always the first Weapon crafter building you play first Aside from their cost efficiency, you can even switch the workshop later to produce a more advanced Crossbow, and all you need is just a few Leather workshop to add, and done~
Arabian archer: I'm strong, I'm fast, I can take two crossbow shots, I have my own bow, I have a sexy accent, I am crusader exclusive, i am exotic, I am thick skinned, I am clearly the best choice you have! Classic archer: I'm cheap Lord: *Say no more*
Arab archer cost is also high because you’re paying to take the time element out of producing the bows. And to save building space in the castle. And freeing peasants to do other tasks. And to save wood for other things. 🤓
But also the more peasants you have the more taxes you collect, so if you have the space and popularity, fletchers eventually pay their own value in tax back, making them free or if the game isnt long enough, far cheaper than their initial cost.
@@MikeeCZ If you have space and popularity why to bother with fcking fletchers. You can produce other things and the peasents will always give you tax anyhow.
@@MikeeCZ Not really. In most missions you are not able to create a taxable economy till 15-20 minutes in the game but you surely need archers. So in this case you have to be gold efficient with your peasents, for example building more Iron/Stone caves. Since people eat I will account the population needed to produce bows as a malus for european archers.
You could if you rely on Bread on basic food sources. 5-7 Bakery, 1 tower and 3 Wheat farm, Double your rations and you got your Tax economy running good at Mean taxes level, not using fear factor building. Tho yeah, Fletcher workshop is mostly the first weapon production building you made~
The best battle group I have come up with playing this game for nearly two decades are; 5 ballista, 10 horse archers, 10 Arabian archers. If you are laying siege then add 10 Arabian swordsman to the group. I have won many hundreds of games with these groups. One of my favorite scenarios is the great Euphrates. If you put your king on the second from the left, south kingdom, you can hold the waterfalls with 1 or 2 groups, for as long as you like against at least 4 other kingdoms, doesn’t matter who. If you can hold the waterfall you can tap dance through the game. Also stop building castles, they are a complete waste of money, resources, and time. Sell all the stone, metal and pitch, buy a merc camp and an engineers guild and win! You can hold the east north kingdoms by putting 1battle group on the hill on the 2nd from the left north kingdom and hold the position indefinitely. The economy is a bit more difficult to wrangle here, there is less wood, stone, and iron. Farm land is also a premium here. Love the idea of placing the armory building next to the stockpiles. I have used a similar tactic with food production by putting, the wheat and hop farms next to the stockpiles. Next layer out would be bakeries and breweries ( and armor buildings) with the third layer out ( armories and) granaries and inn’s. By reducing the distance between the stockpiles and their counterpart industries makes for the best use of resources. Interesting videos nonetheless. On a side note: if you do end up building any castle like structures, build an incredibly large wall. About 10 layers thick. Put an ostensibly wide staircase at least 5 wide ( it looks cool) and drop a gatehouse up front. Offset the stairs and gatehouse as far as possible from each other. Why you ask…? Well you can send your battle groups to ‘ the other side of the wall’ on their way from the staircase to the gatehouse stop your group effectively putting fire ballista, and horse archers on top of your walls. You can achieve this effect also, by putting the grand staircase up the back wall opposite your gate house. Stop them mid journey like the first scenario and you can have fire ballista, and horse archers atop your entire walled fortress. This increases their range equal to the thin spindly archer towers, but with way more firepower. ggwp!
There's also the opportunity cost of european archers that's not being accounted for. Id you're gonna assume that you'll be using the fletchers to produce arrows, you also have to think about what you could've placed there if you didn't need the arrows. An arabian archers user could have put armour makers there and made extra money, or even just set the fletchers to make crossbows to sell them, which would make him have a stronger economy that can support buying more arabian archers.
I would say it depends on how you like to play. When I play with European forces I use a combination of archers and crossbow men. I found them to be a great way to beat any enemy coming at me in the game. If you add a ballista is gets even better. Everyone plays it different and gets the result they like.
Lol man how tf did u make it so that they sound like they're getting hurt but they actually aren't at 2:47?I honestly had no idea that u could even do that.That's absolute genius right there XD. Also how freaking long did it take u to get so much wood and build such a massive stockpile at 1:12 lol?Like I never make a stockpile bigger than 4 lol(aka a small square of 4 stockpiles all of them right next to each other).I also use an autoclicker to sell all the stone in my stockpile and bread from the granaries XD
Well ofc, Horse Archer is the answer to every problem with a healthbar in the game xd 250 of those bad bois, and even the mightiest AIs shit their pants. Even better with portable shields. Their only counter is many catapults and collateral damage. I can stop most AIs with 48 Horse Archers with 48 shields and 48 assassins. And a few extra fire ballistas and catapults and it's gg.
I might be misremembering, but I seem to recall that European archers can actually shoot slightly farther than Arabian archers. This is especially noticeable when you place them in towers, because the European archers will start their attack animation before the Arabian archers do. If my observation is correct, then European archers are better for defense while Arabian archers are better for offense (although in that case why wouldn't you just use Horse archers? XD), but you can mix and match both in towers (along with Crossbowmen) for a combination of range + faster attack speed.
So many people told me they have more range, but when I tested them that wasn't the case. Maybe it's something that got patched either by firefly studios or UCP
Eh, I still prefer arabian units, I build large castles but most of the space is used up by the mills and bakeries, so arabian units do help in keeping some space in the castle, in most missions of crusader we have to build up our armies in a rush and it takes longer to train europeans unless a higher number of workshops is used which, again takes up space.
Me knowing English Longbowmen having more range by a bit against Arabian shortbows , making them more useful when kiting or when on the Walls or towers, mostly mixed with Crossbowmen because of better damage against armored guys. Arabian dudes with more armor, and their better rate of fire, are better at kiting longbowmens while they are drawing their shots half a minute, you can easily shoot and dodge few times. :D 3:00 And i thought for a second i would see duels , with each of the troops shooting at each other who will destroy the shield and kill the other faster. Nice video.
Hi, I'm new to stronghold crusader and I'm a bit stuck. I'm currently on mission 1 Arrival with sultan Abdul and I've only been playing on it for a few hours. I've got a good economy going, I've placed a barracks along with a marketplace and I have purchased 50 arrows. How do I recruit archers? Are they recruited automatically? I've looked online and people talk about recruiting archers etc but don't explain how unless it is really obvious. Would someone be able to help please? And I've already liked and subscribed so I hope that helps in advance. Thanks.
Yeah was about to answer sorry! If you're brand new I'd suggest starting from Stronghold 1's military campaign store.steampowered.com/app/40950/Stronghold_HD/ It does a much better job at teaching you the game
I always make Classic archers thanks to fletchers shop and when my economy and initial defence is done I turn them into crossbows - that’s why they are superior imo
I really like the arabs unit i like to have a strong food income than from them i maximise the eating portion of the population and from there I increase taxes not max but eqully and then i get a ton of golds My best troops are Horse Archers Arabien arches Assassin to protect the king Slaves to set fire to the enemy and assassin’s agin to destroy the enemy food supply cat down food they r done 👋🏻 Strong hold Curseder was my first and ever game of strategy ever played I loved it so friking much 😁 At the end of the game i like Knights they are crazy strong
I agree that horse archers are the best in this game, but shouldn't height advantage be discussed? Horse archers can never have this advantage and figuring archers on towers/walls end up marginally stronger (more accurate shots) than archers on the ground
One thing you should inform in the video. Somehow Arabian archers not gonna climb on people with stairs. I'm normally using archers to get on enemy towers and then attack like 100 archers against one king.. Also Fire thrower not gonna use it too!. Well at least in my game
@Emperor AlHasan that would be worker/peasant crowding. soldier unit cap is different. i think it was somewhere near 1000 units. in Extreme it should be 10000. not sure tho.
Fire ballista = self propelled howitzer, protect with more fire ballista's and scout with continuous made archers is my end game, make some trebs because ladies love the long range shot ;)
Assuming Arabian Bows are better, let's analyze by creating our first units. Arabian bows = flat 75 gold. May seem costly against 12 of the European archers, but considering you've to churn off 100 gold + wood offcourse to the first Fletcher's workshop (and the Armory) to get it recruited, or you've to pay 155 gold to buy a (minimum) batch of 5 bows to get it produced, I think the dynamics are very well debatable.
@@Jefflenious Are there more trees? Did the mechanics for harvesting change? I'm asking because I can't say I noticed wood being easier to get in Crusader.
@@KyleSinclair98 Tested it, they don't have more range (Unless UCP patched it) But technically both archers have one or two tiles extra range if you fire manually, but even then their manual/automatic fire range is both the same
European archer costs 12 gold arabian archer costs 75 gold You can basically make 6 european archers for the same price, and classic european archer is just 35 % weaker than arabian archer !
@@Jefflenious Yes, most people use archers and spears for rushes, normal archers are not all that good later on when everyone has gold and the resources to make better equipment, especially because you also need to take note of the population cap.
I wish that Firefly Studios stop trying to make these new generation Strongholds with new settings that will never be on par with Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader. Instead, they could embrace the fact that Stronghold Crusader is the best thing they've ever done and make a proper Stronghold Crusader update that would still be the same underlying game but with more resources, more units, more buildings, more maps, more characters and perhaps more stats and complexities. What makes Stronghold Crusader outdated is not the graphics or whatever, it's the fact that once you try out everything in the game, and get all the mechanics of the game down, there's nothing else to experience anymore. Don't "revolutionise" anything, just add more content.
That seems to be more or less the direction they are going now if you've seen the Definitive Edition for Stronghold that is coming out soon. Can't wait for a Definitive Edition of Stronghold Crusader myself.
@@mee091000 Yeah, but that seems to be more of a quality of life update. It won't really add new game mechanics/content as far as I know. It's still good, but I want more actual content from the same game, like new resources, buildings, troops, etc.
It boils down to horse archers. It ALWAYS boils down to bloody horse archers. I can`t see it anymore. I can`t hear it anymore. I can`t STAND IT anymore. For 14 years I have been playing this game and the answer has always been horse archers: Campaign missions? Horse archers. Under siege? Horse archers. Besieging? Horse archers. Multiplayer? Horse archers. Camels in your way? Horse archers. Sun is shining to much in the desert? Horse archers. Their volley will blacken the sky and lend us shade. One button solution to every problem and I can`t take it anymore.
If you buy weapons for European archers and make them face off with same costs, Arabian loose. In general sieges Arabian do win thanks to their sustained crossbow shot before they die. Aside of that - never.
horse archers were always my favorite in this game you really dont need any other unit, if you can manage to produce enough horse archers i usually would produce around 80 archers and then rekt any opponent with it
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Arabian archer vs Classic archer
winner : Horse archer
i think arab archer have better range than horse archer
@@cpt.magwich617 range the same, watch another Jeff video about this.
ok iam gonna check that out thanks
i found chuncks of bowmen mixed with x bow men with a bunch of shields approaching slow but steady better. The horse archer are to big of a target for the slingshot stone tower defense.
Arabian archers are the best since they are wearing hershey's kisses hats.
Chad archers
Without their hershey's kisses hats, arabian bowman only cost 15 golds
I like that you brought up population efficiency, which I feel was ignored quite a bit in your unit tier list video. I feel like most people don't realize that population is a resource in this game just like gold. In larger missions, population space is one of, if not THE most important resource in the game due to how little troop you're allowed to build and how much you have to deal with. When playing missions like 80, that "Your army is approaching its maximum size" scares me more than any attack for this exact reason.
well after playing this game for 25 years let me tell u something,Horse archer go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I didn't ignore it, but there was too much to consider when making the tierlist, different starting economies, different maps, peasant efficiency and etc
Unit cap is also the reason why knights and swordsmen went up on the list even though monks just destroy them, but let's say horse archers are S+ but if we're playing on a defensive map with little resources they become one of the worst units. I said this before if Stronghold Crusader was played on a default setting by most players (And there was some standards for maps) making a tier list would be so much easier then
Anyone know how much the maximum army can we get? 500?
@@olik1228 It goes up and down depending on how many players are in the game (On extreme I think it doesn't matter)
On last mission it's around 300, and it's a 7 player match
@@olik1228 in stronghold crusader the max amount is 1000,in stronghold crusader extreme its 10000
Just found this channel today and I must say, I'm quite impressed with your knowledge of SHC. Anyone who's ever spent any significant amount of time playing can see you really know your stuff. Subscribed
Thank you welcome! tbh there are still things I get wrong or don't know yet
my conclusion: arabian archers should cost 65 each
For me, horse archer is the best range troops for an attack. But for defense i choose crossbow.
Dude I love watching a volley of crossbows just straight up delete a group of enemy units
50 Crossbowman on a tower basically the embodiment of "Im going to end these men's whole career"
i found chuncks of bowmen mixed with x bow men with a bunch of shields approaching slow but steady better. The horse archer are to big of a target for the slingshot stone tower defense.
the archers can defeat tiny units like archers spearmen horsmen archers which is more faster
the crossbowen can defeat swordsmen knights and armored units so easily
the best range is 25 crossbowmen 20 or 25 Archers
Crossbowmen for armored units like Swordsmen, Arabian Swordsmen, Pikemen, or Knights, Arabian Archers for quick, deadly, and numerous units like Macemen or Monke, Mangonels for Horse Archers and some siege units like Portable Shield, and Ballista for Trebuchet and additional defensive forces.
There's also one more thing:
Since Euro Archers are so cheap and can be made on mass they can actually sometimes be a cost efficient unit in melee. Granted, monks are a thing but it's a viable desperation tactic. They also can fill moats faster
Yup, and Fletcher's workshop is almost always the first Weapon crafter building you play first
Aside from their cost efficiency, you can even switch the workshop later to produce a more advanced Crossbow, and all you need is just a few Leather workshop to add, and done~
Arabian archer: I'm strong, I'm fast, I can take two crossbow shots, I have my own bow, I have a sexy accent, I am crusader exclusive, i am exotic, I am thick skinned, I am clearly the best choice you have!
Classic archer: I'm cheap
Lord: *Say no more*
More units > Less units for sure
Alpha linoswik vs Sigma dig for victory.
What an avaricious lord😂😂
@@mohamedmido1498 frugal
That sexy accent is already a strong enough point though
i'd say that "making the weapons" for your units have something in it... its at least definetly more satisfying.
Fantastic analysis performed in this video. Great.
Jefflenious tap both euro archer and arab archer: these are brilliant
*smack horse archer* but I like this
Where was this channel in 2006, I needed this info back then
Love your vids man keep it up
Thanks, will do!
Arab archer cost is also high because you’re paying to take the time element out of producing the bows. And to save building space in the castle. And freeing peasants to do other tasks. And to save wood for other things. 🤓
But also the more peasants you have the more taxes you collect, so if you have the space and popularity, fletchers eventually pay their own value in tax back, making them free or if the game isnt long enough, far cheaper than their initial cost.
@@MikeeCZ If you have space and popularity why to bother with fcking fletchers. You can produce other things and the peasents will always give you tax anyhow.
@@MikeeCZ Not really. In most missions you are not able to create a taxable economy till 15-20 minutes in the game but you surely need archers. So in this case you have to be gold efficient with your peasents, for example building more Iron/Stone caves. Since people eat I will account the population needed to produce bows as a malus for european archers.
You could if you rely on Bread on basic food sources.
5-7 Bakery, 1 tower and 3 Wheat farm, Double your rations and you got your Tax economy running good at Mean taxes level, not using fear factor building.
Tho yeah, Fletcher workshop is mostly the first weapon production building you made~
The best battle group I have come up with playing this game for nearly two decades are; 5 ballista, 10 horse archers, 10 Arabian archers. If you are laying siege then add 10 Arabian swordsman to the group. I have won many hundreds of games with these groups. One of my favorite scenarios is the great Euphrates. If you put your king on the second from the left, south kingdom, you can hold the waterfalls with 1 or 2 groups, for as long as you like against at least 4 other kingdoms, doesn’t matter who. If you can hold the waterfall you can tap dance through the game. Also stop building castles, they are a complete waste of money, resources, and time. Sell all the stone, metal and pitch, buy a merc camp and an engineers guild and win! You can hold the east north kingdoms by putting 1battle group on the hill on the 2nd from the left north kingdom and hold the position indefinitely. The economy is a bit more difficult to wrangle here, there is less wood, stone, and iron. Farm land is also a premium here. Love the idea of placing the armory building next to the stockpiles. I have used a similar tactic with food production by putting, the wheat and hop farms next to the stockpiles. Next layer out would be bakeries and breweries ( and armor buildings) with the third layer out ( armories and) granaries and inn’s. By reducing the distance between the stockpiles and their counterpart industries makes for the best use of resources. Interesting videos nonetheless. On a side note: if you do end up building any castle like structures, build an incredibly large wall. About 10 layers thick. Put an ostensibly wide staircase at least 5 wide ( it looks cool) and drop a gatehouse up front. Offset the stairs and gatehouse as far as possible from each other. Why you ask…? Well you can send your battle groups to ‘ the other side of the wall’ on their way from the staircase to the gatehouse stop your group effectively putting fire ballista, and horse archers on top of your walls. You can achieve this effect also, by putting the grand staircase up the back wall opposite your gate house. Stop them mid journey like the first scenario and you can have fire ballista, and horse archers atop your entire walled fortress. This increases their range equal to the thin spindly archer towers, but with way more firepower. ggwp!
Great video make more like these and by the way can you make a video on 'Stronghold Crusader Tips and Tricks'
Yeah planning to do more short videos like this, glad you enjoyed
Love your videos dear ! ☺️
There's also the opportunity cost of european archers that's not being accounted for. Id you're gonna assume that you'll be using the fletchers to produce arrows, you also have to think about what you could've placed there if you didn't need the arrows. An arabian archers user could have put armour makers there and made extra money, or even just set the fletchers to make crossbows to sell them, which would make him have a stronger economy that can support buying more arabian archers.
Finally some good stuff here
I would say it depends on how you like to play. When I play with European forces I use a combination of archers and crossbow men. I found them to be a great way to beat any enemy coming at me in the game. If you add a ballista is gets even better. Everyone plays it different and gets the result they like.
Lol man how tf did u make it so that they sound like they're getting hurt but they actually aren't at 2:47?I honestly had no idea that u could even do that.That's absolute genius right there XD.
Also how freaking long did it take u to get so much wood and build such a massive stockpile at 1:12 lol?Like I never make a stockpile bigger than 4 lol(aka a small square of 4 stockpiles all of them right next to each other).I also use an autoclicker to sell all the stone in my stockpile and bread from the granaries XD
Well ofc, Horse Archer is the answer to every problem with a healthbar in the game xd 250 of those bad bois, and even the mightiest AIs shit their pants. Even better with portable shields. Their only counter is many catapults and collateral damage.
I can stop most AIs with 48 Horse Archers with 48 shields and 48 assassins. And a few extra fire ballistas and catapults and it's gg.
Why 48? Why so specific
Your video is very unique :D
Bro can u plz upload the full video that was at the end?i wana know who won 1v 1
Lost the footage unfortunately, but Arabian Archers won for sure :D
I use both
European archers for frontline attack
Arabian archers for castle defence, stationed on towers...(of course after having set up economy )
I might be misremembering, but I seem to recall that European archers can actually shoot slightly farther than Arabian archers. This is especially noticeable when you place them in towers, because the European archers will start their attack animation before the Arabian archers do. If my observation is correct, then European archers are better for defense while Arabian archers are better for offense (although in that case why wouldn't you just use Horse archers? XD), but you can mix and match both in towers (along with Crossbowmen) for a combination of range + faster attack speed.
So many people told me they have more range, but when I tested them that wasn't the case. Maybe it's something that got patched either by firefly studios or UCP
@@Jefflenious realistically why wouldn't they have more range though? longer bows and all, what a wierd thing to patch
@@madmantheepic7278 true, they look like they got English longbows
Yes, I remember them having more range too
Eh, I still prefer arabian units, I build large castles but most of the space is used up by the mills and bakeries, so arabian units do help in keeping some space in the castle, in most missions of crusader we have to build up our armies in a rush and it takes longer to train europeans unless a higher number of workshops is used which, again takes up space.
Me knowing English Longbowmen having more range by a bit against Arabian shortbows , making them more useful when kiting or when on the Walls or towers, mostly mixed with Crossbowmen because of better damage against armored guys.
Arabian dudes with more armor, and their better rate of fire, are better at kiting longbowmens while they are drawing their shots half a minute, you can easily shoot and dodge few times. :D
3:00 And i thought for a second i would see duels , with each of the troops shooting at each other who will destroy the shield and kill the other faster. Nice video.
Arabian archers or Classic archers ?
none, horse archers :D
True
good to know
Fun fact, did you know that slinger can sustain 2 crossbow shot?
Which one would win on a wall or turret? This time it can't be a horse archer!
that stockpile tho :O
Hi, I'm new to stronghold crusader and I'm a bit stuck.
I'm currently on mission 1 Arrival with sultan Abdul and I've only been playing on it for a few hours. I've got a good economy going, I've placed a barracks along with a marketplace and I have purchased 50 arrows.
How do I recruit archers? Are they recruited automatically? I've looked online and people talk about recruiting archers etc but don't explain how unless it is really obvious.
Would someone be able to help please? And I've already liked and subscribed so I hope that helps in advance. Thanks.
I've figured out that I needed to build a barracks then I could recruit archers 🙄
Yeah was about to answer sorry!
If you're brand new I'd suggest starting from Stronghold 1's military campaign
store.steampowered.com/app/40950/Stronghold_HD/
It does a much better job at teaching you the game
I always make Classic archers thanks to fletchers shop and when my economy and initial defence is done I turn them into crossbows - that’s why they are superior imo
Does somone know a way to remove the army limit, I ve been searching it for years ,but I ve never found a way
"supeeRior" moff Tarkin, is that you?
I played stronghold crusader for about my whole life. This is the first time i heard about the unit cap
First time I heard it was when I tried to fill the map with slaves lol
I guess the unit cap is reduced if you put more lords in the game
My stupid 8yo ass figured out spamming horse archers was an epic win every time. That's how crazy broken they are
I used a glitch to put horse archers at the tower and walls
I really like the arabs unit i like to have a strong food income than from them i maximise the eating portion of the population and from there I increase taxes not max but eqully and then i get a ton of golds
My best troops are
Horse Archers
Arabien arches
Assassin to protect the king
Slaves to set fire to the enemy and assassin’s agin to destroy the enemy food supply cat down food they r done 👋🏻
Strong hold Curseder was my first and ever game of strategy ever played
I loved it so friking much 😁
At the end of the game i like Knights they are crazy strong
I usually use crossbowmen for defense and horse archers for attack.
Wait there is a limit to amount of soldiers???
I agree that horse archers are the best in this game, but shouldn't height advantage be discussed? Horse archers can never have this advantage and figuring archers on towers/walls end up marginally stronger (more accurate shots) than archers on the ground
That's the one advantage Arabian archers have but horse archers are the best aggressive option
The best thing horse archer could get height advantage is just on a wall.
They dig moats too. Usefull to enclose your keep.
the arabians archers cannot make moats, while the classic one can make them
in fact, the only arabian unit that can dig moats is the slave, so it does not matter anyways
One thing you should inform in the video. Somehow Arabian archers not gonna climb on people with stairs. I'm normally using archers to get on enemy towers and then attack like 100 archers against one king.. Also Fire thrower not gonna use it too!. Well at least in my game
This sidememes,like the wood in stronghold 1, with this translate voice is so funny 😂
I played arabian archer for a while, but I replaced them with crossbowman. So in my eyes both became useless, unless you wanna place some pitch.
When I am dead...can you plz narrate my eulogy?
Horse archers are main power of my army. I use them a lot.
Question: who is better arabian archer or classic archer?
Answer: horse archer and xbow))
So what your saying is build flechers workshops and sell the bows to buy horse archers.
All the distance units have the same range of attack? I mean the European, Arabic, horse and crossbows.
Yeah, except ballistae
@@Jefflenious pretty sure crossbowmen have less range than archers. Also, if I remember correctly, European archers have slighty higher range
Imo arabian archers should be buffed by its gold cost, should be 60 or 55 so they won't get outshined by the horse counterparts
I didn’t know there was a unit cap
It increases/or decreases based on how many lords are in the game
@Emperor AlHasan that would be worker/peasant crowding. soldier unit cap is different. i think it was somewhere near 1000 units. in Extreme it should be 10000. not sure tho.
Who wins? European Archer or Arabian Archer? The answer is horse archer
Fire ballista = self propelled howitzer, protect with more fire ballista's and scout with continuous made archers is my end game, make some trebs because ladies love the long range shot ;)
Crossbow 😌
Beside this game the only superiority that a long bow has compared with the cresent one, is it's longer range. That is common knowledge
I like classic early game because they are the only archer that can dig moats
Assuming Arabian Bows are better, let's analyze by creating our first units. Arabian bows = flat 75 gold. May seem costly against 12 of the European archers, but considering you've to churn off 100 gold + wood offcourse to the first Fletcher's workshop (and the Armory) to get it recruited, or you've to pay 155 gold to buy a (minimum) batch of 5 bows to get it produced, I think the dynamics are very well debatable.
You are forgetting the opportunity cost of producing bows instead of more expensive weapons that you can sell.
Horse Archers for the win!
I prefer to use arabian archer and crossbowman, only. I use european archer when i'm poor :(
Wait, why is wood free in Crusader?
I meant wood is plentiful in Stronghold Crusader not free! Over time you get hundreds of them
@@Jefflenious Are there more trees? Did the mechanics for harvesting change? I'm asking because I can't say I noticed wood being easier to get in Crusader.
Basicly at Defence Ive usually take Classic archers and to Attack Ive take horse archers. Coz there no point to put Horse atchers at walls))
Not only horse archers are good at offense except when against tower archers but also good at defense too😂
Arab archer should cost around 50 to 55
Then what will stop people from archer cheese early?
@@vbnv-oz8bj Their own Arabian Archers and Siege Ballista in the Gatehouses.
Looking the animation the Arabian Archer fire faster than European Archer but then again Arabian Archer have slightly less range than European Archer
Wait do they? I'm pretty sure they have the same range
The range I'm not sure, better test that on lookout tower, if that true that's probably balance the cost
Europeans do have longer range
@@KyleSinclair98 Tested it, they don't have more range (Unless UCP patched it)
But technically both archers have one or two tiles extra range if you fire manually, but even then their manual/automatic fire range is both the same
I see, well I think the Arabian archer is better once you have alot gold
Question: arabian or european archers?
Answer: horse archers
Just consider that Arabians don't die to ballista shot 😉
3:00 who won
If you mean those archers fighting at end screen it was Arabian archer, But European archers won the video
@@Jefflenious what a great battle 😂
arabian archers can be useful early game
In campaign archers are better because of lack of gold. Otherwise crossbow guys are way better at defence and horse archers at offense
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IMO Horse Archers are equal to Crossbowmen the difference is u use Crossbowmen to defend and Horse Archers to Attack
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Crsbow are thr best
horse archers should cost 100 gold
well writen script!
European archer costs 12 gold
arabian archer costs 75 gold
You can basically make 6 european archers for the same price, and classic european archer is just 35 % weaker than arabian archer !
There's also bow though, but yeah after some time the fletchers would start making free archers for you
@@Jefflenious Yes, most people use archers and spears for rushes, normal archers are not all that good later on when everyone has gold and the resources to make better equipment, especially because you also need to take note of the population cap.
If you stop chopping wood or build walls around your trees they will continue growing. You can have unlimited wood
you know you need the arabian variant on emergency. deactivate all major industries and spam the button, hoping we have the money of course
I used horse archers to beat mission 80
I wish that Firefly Studios stop trying to make these new generation Strongholds with new settings that will never be on par with Stronghold and Stronghold Crusader. Instead, they could embrace the fact that Stronghold Crusader is the best thing they've ever done and make a proper Stronghold Crusader update that would still be the same underlying game but with more resources, more units, more buildings, more maps, more characters and perhaps more stats and complexities. What makes Stronghold Crusader outdated is not the graphics or whatever, it's the fact that once you try out everything in the game, and get all the mechanics of the game down, there's nothing else to experience anymore. Don't "revolutionise" anything, just add more content.
That seems to be more or less the direction they are going now if you've seen the Definitive Edition for Stronghold that is coming out soon. Can't wait for a Definitive Edition of Stronghold Crusader myself.
@@mee091000 Yeah, but that seems to be more of a quality of life update. It won't really add new game mechanics/content as far as I know. It's still good, but I want more actual content from the same game, like new resources, buildings, troops, etc.
It boils down to horse archers. It ALWAYS boils down to bloody horse archers. I can`t see it anymore. I can`t hear it anymore. I can`t STAND IT anymore. For 14 years I have been playing this game and the answer has always been horse archers: Campaign missions? Horse archers. Under siege? Horse archers. Besieging? Horse archers. Multiplayer? Horse archers. Camels in your way? Horse archers. Sun is shining to much in the desert? Horse archers. Their volley will blacken the sky and lend us shade. One button solution to every problem and I can`t take it anymore.
A horse in arabia only costs 5 gold.
call me a Jeffhead
european archers have longer shooting range
Not really. Once they shoot at arabian archers, they shoot back
I think it might be detection range rather than actual shooting range.
Arabian Archers are better both in efficiency and rate
dont forget that european archers can dig moat.
If you buy weapons for European archers and make them face off with same costs, Arabian loose. In general sieges Arabian do win thanks to their sustained crossbow shot before they die. Aside of that - never.
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horse archers were always my favorite in this game
you really dont need any other unit, if you can manage to produce enough horse archers
i usually would produce around 80 archers and then rekt any opponent with it
Ok Arabian units are mercenaries so why do they cost peasants
Well, non-horse archers are a waste of money regardless if they're European, or Arab. Either slingers, or xbows.
classic archer or Arabian archer? none
I really think European archers can shoot farther than Arabian archers.
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