‘Romantically Active’ Ex-Wife Placed in Embarrassing Pose After Murder | Chanin Starbuck Analysis

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  • @BlackSheep_216
    @BlackSheep_216 Před 12 dny +203

    The judge that ordered $4700 a month should go to jail for being involved in the M.

    • @daynasafranek7807
      @daynasafranek7807 Před 12 dny +2

      ‘M’, as in murder?

    • @daynasafranek7807
      @daynasafranek7807 Před 12 dny +4

      Simply changing the word never changes the meaning or act, it’s not a dirty word. It’s ok.

    • @hhp2932
      @hhp2932 Před 12 dny +9

      That was a crazy amount especially since he couldn't work

    • @LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName
      @LaurenThompsonIsMyRealName Před 12 dny +11

      ​@daynasafranek7807 they were probably trying not to trigger youtube censoring.

    • @Lastofthefreenames
      @Lastofthefreenames Před 12 dny +14

      ​@@daynasafranek7807censorship disagrees and will keep fighting to change words like suicide to self delete to unalive. It's so dumb

  • @MareeCK2409
    @MareeCK2409 Před 13 dny +659

    $4700 a month?! That’s crazy!

    • @markiangooley
      @markiangooley Před 13 dny +158

      I’ve seen cases of men with high-paying jobs in the boom days of Silicon Valley being required to make high child-support payments - and then losing their jobs, with no change to the size of the payments.

    • @BidensTaint
      @BidensTaint Před 13 dny

      Washington state… liberals

    • @ilovemycat___
      @ilovemycat___ Před 13 dny +22

      @@markiangooleyso it’s only means tested at the start?

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes Před 13 dny +30

      @@markiangooleyum ok? Guys like that just get another high paying job

    • @zumptt
      @zumptt Před 13 dny +136

      Not to mention its by definition sexist towards woman. Why can't a woman provide for her family exactly I thought they were equal to men?

  • @mrparlanejxtra
    @mrparlanejxtra Před 13 dny +208

    Remarriage a person a second time is always a bad move. Leopards do not change their spots.

    • @rockon8174
      @rockon8174 Před 11 dny +7

      Dude was lazy.

    • @Pilot-617
      @Pilot-617 Před 9 dny +3

      Simply not always true.

    • @DASO_MILITIA
      @DASO_MILITIA Před 9 dny +9

      Thats only if you re marry a leopard

    • @minirock000
      @minirock000 Před 9 dny

      "Remarrying"

    • @A4Natty
      @A4Natty Před 8 dny +2

      ​@@rockon8174how was he lazy and earning so much ?
      His wife sounds like a cheater and lose woman, I bet she cheated on him and destroyed the marriage

  • @Johnson-Sequoia
    @Johnson-Sequoia Před 13 dny +156

    Only owing 2 months of alimony and likely getting close to being done with that obligation seems like a weak motive.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 Před 12 dny +11

      When that's £10k and another £5k on-top _basically for forever_ despite being out of work. Wow, heavy shit.

    • @trfaison
      @trfaison Před 11 dny +7

      Agreed. There is too much reasonable doubt here

    • @ahill4642
      @ahill4642 Před 11 dny +1

      Surely he had jealousy rage going back many years.

  • @BoRisMc
    @BoRisMc Před 13 dny +104

    Prosecutor: whose DNA was found in Shannon’s body?
    Forensics: Yes!

  • @MimiRAM0NE
    @MimiRAM0NE Před 13 dny +111

    I don't see how Clay can be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt when there was other DNA and they only cleared one of her lovers.

    • @jtzoltan
      @jtzoltan Před 12 dny +9

      They cleared 2 of her lovers but didn't investigate any of the other 8 that month (and I'm not sure if she'd only been doing online hookups that one month or if there was multiple months worth).

    • @lindap.p.1337
      @lindap.p.1337 Před 11 dny +4

      His DNA was not on her phone. It was one of her lovers.

    • @zopEnglandzip
      @zopEnglandzip Před 11 dny +2

      @@lindap.p.1337 and another family member's, I'm kinda surprised none of the children were considered, maybe they hated what their mother was doing to their loving father?

    • @TezzyRs
      @TezzyRs Před 8 dny

      @@zopEnglandzip bahahaha loving father? he had broken into and stalked ex's, she had his dna under her finger nails. the women haters are real in this one. probably cause yall cant get any. far from a loving father.

    • @michaelwaninger3155
      @michaelwaninger3155 Před 5 dny +1

      Don't see how they can charge him with a crime. Except maybe for not doing it soon enough for the daughter. God only knows what happened to her with mom running that many strange men thru the house

  • @ttrainor70
    @ttrainor70 Před 13 dny +372

    That's a lot of DNA

    • @SetiSupreme
      @SetiSupreme Před 13 dny +32

      Yikes is an understatement

    • @limbeboy7
      @limbeboy7 Před 13 dny +35

      That's why I don't think the husband did it. She was naked with a sex toy, and had stun gun marks. Too many things point to a sex act which I doubt she was sexually active with her ex husband

    • @kdw75
      @kdw75 Před 13 dny

      @@limbeboy7 I don't know, she seemed like she was sexually active with anyone that was willing.

    • @user-ft1wo2im3u
      @user-ft1wo2im3u Před 12 dny +25

      she could have saved her ex the money and started a career in film

    • @bencorrell7851
      @bencorrell7851 Před 12 dny

      I don’t know. It sounds like she was having sex with man after man after man. I wonder if the ex husband just developed a jealous rage combined with disgust and acted on it.

  • @paulclinton6414
    @paulclinton6414 Před 13 dny +216

    She brought dozens of random men around her kids.

    • @enjoystraveling
      @enjoystraveling Před 13 dny +27

      How do you know she brought the strangers around her children. Maybe she only did it when they were at school and or weekends when they were visiting their friends. Do we really know or is that an assumption.

    • @enjoystraveling
      @enjoystraveling Před 13 dny +22

      I don’t think it’s wrong to have Romantic encounters when you’re not married any longer although it’s probably not so wise to have so many and to date men more wisely, especially if you have young children.

    • @lisaaustin4561
      @lisaaustin4561 Před 13 dny

      You don’t know that! Her kids weren’t toddlers. Maybe they were at school? Maybe she met them at a hotel. Who cares. Men behave FAR worse and nobody blinks an eye.

    • @BidensTaint
      @BidensTaint Před 13 dny +34

      @@enjoystraveling well how’d that turn out for her?

    • @SunShine-vo8kj
      @SunShine-vo8kj Před 13 dny +22

      ​@enjoystraveling with 10 men though. That's insane 😳 Even the doctor said "that lifestyle is not without risk" Doctor also said many men were coming to her house, listen @ 11:11 timestamp.

  • @carolcooper3138
    @carolcooper3138 Před 13 dny +287

    "Romantically active" 😂

  • @ronald3836
    @ronald3836 Před 12 dny +12

    "DNA from the Starbuck family" confused me until I realised Starbuck is the surname.

  • @annazaman9657
    @annazaman9657 Před 13 dny +219

    She had been having affairs for years, even after the first divorce, why would he suddenly get jealous enough to kill?

    • @Ocelot1962
      @Ocelot1962 Před 12 dny

      It wasn't just jealousy. She divorce-raped him. It shows how divorce laws are now rabidly anti-male. If the husband cheats, the wife walks away with cash and prizes, leaving the husband a broken man. And if the wife cheats, the wife walks away with cash and prizes, leaving the husband a broken man.

    • @janedoe4316
      @janedoe4316 Před 12 dny +31

      Such things are not unheard of, especially when you pay that much, & owe that much

    • @emilyvee4922
      @emilyvee4922 Před 12 dny +14

      The arrears was causing him to be looking at jail time.

    • @kaym.2854
      @kaym.2854 Před 12 dny +20

      Probably because he realised it was the end of the relationship for real this time and he couldn't deal with the fact that she was having sex with other people. A huge blow to his ego. So many moving parts to this story. It's always a tragedy for the children involved- They lost both parents who clearly didn't prioritize them.

    • @hhp2932
      @hhp2932 Před 12 dny +6

      You finally had enough.

  • @jademcqueen5474
    @jademcqueen5474 Před 13 dny +399

    I can't even cope with my one life and emails....marriage, 10 men and 6 different email addresses 😮 her biscuits must of been burning.

    • @chameleonsoule314
      @chameleonsoule314 Před 13 dny +13

      Foreal! 😮

    • @betsylaughlin8652
      @betsylaughlin8652 Před 13 dny

      Sadly, sounds more like a sex/love addict than anything. 10 men isn’t fun, it’s a sign of compulsive behavior.

    • @julie2x
      @julie2x Před 13 dny +44

      She didn’t work and the father of the kids (who supported her) helped her with childcare such as driving and picking the children up from school.

    • @ktkt9982
      @ktkt9982 Před 13 dny +29

      Sounds exhausting to me 😅

    • @oregonsnob31
      @oregonsnob31 Před 13 dny

      I can see youre thirsty, but it’s still gross that her choices as a single female are your first focus and energy spent to comment rather than commenting that an Innocent Woman was MURDERED and he left all their children orphaned.
      As “shocking” as this is for hooded eyes, facts say , many men do this too and a “hole” lot more and nobody seems to be that shocked by their multiple partners nor blame them for being murdered. Why do you think that is??
      Really think about your thought process here. We need to do better as a society. And it starts with you, parched or not.

  • @euchiron
    @euchiron Před 13 dny +170

    The daughter who took her own life must have been terrified. That's heartbreaking

    • @geekinasuit8333
      @geekinasuit8333 Před 12 dny +21

      Yeah, it was a total mess of a situation. I felt so bad hearing about the girl taking her own life. The dad should have tried to get the mom help for the reckless sex addiction, instead he gave her an execution, it's fortunate the crazy dad did not also kill his kids.

    • @ArtistFormerlyKnownAsShitlord
      @ArtistFormerlyKnownAsShitlord Před 12 dny

      @@geekinasuit8333 Why the he11 would he have killed his kids? They weren't ripping him off and trying to get him sent to jail.

    • @UndertakerU2ber
      @UndertakerU2ber Před 12 dny +44

      @@geekinasuit8333
      Seemed like the mom had the bigger issues than the father ever did. She collects thousands of dollars and sleeps with a myriad of random men she met online? No wonder the kids defend their father and profess his innocence…

    • @real100talk5
      @real100talk5 Před 12 dny

      @@geekinasuit8333 You live in an alternate reality if you think an ex helps with a sex addiction.

    • @zstanic127
      @zstanic127 Před 12 dny

      ​@@geekinasuit8333fukkin lol its not the job of the husband to fix his slùt wifes slùt behavior.

  • @orlandomolina7192
    @orlandomolina7192 Před 12 dny +95

    Wait. They divorced while she delivered another man’s baby? Then reconciled 4 months after? And he took her back with another man’s baby? 🤮.
    Bruh…. 🤦🏻‍♂️ what a dope.

    • @heatherchandler1184
      @heatherchandler1184 Před 12 dny +5

      He probably even asked for her back, wouldn’t be surprised

    • @GonzoT38
      @GonzoT38 Před 9 dny

      My wife has a friend who married and separated and had a baby with another man and he still took her back and agreed to r a i s e the kid. They still divorced anyways. Real world cuckolds

    • @SP-qo3pd
      @SP-qo3pd Před 8 dny

      Everyone makes at least one stupid mistake with women. Dude married his mistake, but he was likely thinking about his kids. He was a good father that hoped she'd slow down, but a ho like that never will.

    • @crapple009
      @crapple009 Před 8 dny +2

      She must have been...er, very talented. Or something like that..

    • @zephyer-gp1ju
      @zephyer-gp1ju Před 8 dny

      My Grandparents split and divorced at one point. Not long later they remarried and stayed that way until their death. They often fought. My Dad wouldn't put them in the same nursing home because my granddad needed a higher level of care, and he didn't want calls from the nursing home that they were yelling at each other.
      I didn't find out until a few years ago that they had slept in different rooms.
      On my mom's side, I don't really know the whole story but my Aunt slept in an upstairs bedroom and spent most of her time in the living room, kitchen, when she wasn't at work. Her husband had a few rooms in the basement and except for meals, spent most of his time in the basement.

  • @jennyb1650
    @jennyb1650 Před 12 dny +53

    I’ve not finished the video but I’m confused, they had custody of 2 kids each, she had 1 additional from another man, he was unemployed and he had to pay her $4700 a month? 😮 That’s crazy!

    • @patriciovarela8794
      @patriciovarela8794 Před 12 dny +15

      That happends all the time.
      That is why you don't get married in America if you are a male.

    • @gemmalocatelli5916
      @gemmalocatelli5916 Před 12 dny +9

      ​@@patriciovarela8794really? If a male?
      My ex paid zero. He also was given every leniency under the sun.
      I was screwed over by him reporting me daily.
      Theres no black n white argument.

    • @heatherchandler1184
      @heatherchandler1184 Před 12 dny +6

      @@patriciovarela8794 the thing is that he was unemployed. It’s not like he was making money (on the books) and refusing to pay.

    • @patriciovarela8794
      @patriciovarela8794 Před 11 dny +2

      @@gemmalocatelli5916 what you say is true. Some man are like that.

    • @protoman1214
      @protoman1214 Před 10 dny +11

      ​@gemmalocatelli5916 some people take that rhetoric about males not marrying too far. But there is an undeniable preference towards women in divorce settings. It is literally undeniable. Sure, there are cases where the women might not get a fair settlement but you are in a minority.
      What was he reporting you for on a daily basis? That sounds wild

  • @MiamiChica
    @MiamiChica Před 13 dny +194

    Love how people disguise cheating as “polyamory”

    • @gingercat7925
      @gingercat7925 Před 13 dny +7

      Medical research.

    • @jamegumb7298
      @jamegumb7298 Před 12 dny +7

      But that is what it is.
      Monogamy is a male construct that never had place in human relationships, expecting monogamy is toxic patriarchy because it reinforces male ownership of the female body. Her body her choice.

    • @kylez8010
      @kylez8010 Před 12 dny +33

      @@jamegumb7298 Just say whatever they want you to say.
      The idea that monogamy was invented by men for men is absurd on its face.

    • @jamegumb7298
      @jamegumb7298 Před 12 dny +2

      @@kylez8010 Women have a right and reason to cheat.
      Men never do.

    • @Kari.F.
      @Kari.F. Před 12 dny +14

      Cheating? They were formally divorced.

  • @raukawa4732
    @raukawa4732 Před 12 dny +46

    “Cut loose a little bit” that’s an understatement if ever I heard one.

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny

      She was dating though, she didn't sleep with most of them. The dad was on a real smear campaign and seems like it worked on some people.

  • @KrepCake
    @KrepCake Před 12 dny +53

    So she calls 911 and nobody goes to the house?

    • @DeviantDespot
      @DeviantDespot Před 9 dny +12

      Welcome to Blue states.

    • @LongJohnLiver
      @LongJohnLiver Před 8 dny

      ​@@DeviantDespotPolice departments in red *and* blue states have cut back on sending officers to every single 911 call.

    • @PicaPauDiablo1
      @PicaPauDiablo1 Před 7 dny +3

      And the killer seemed to not know or care and took his time. Imaginekilling someone and just chilling out taking your time unafraid of the cops or someone showing up.

    • @chrisbishop3687
      @chrisbishop3687 Před 15 hodinami +1

      The 911 operator was probably one of her boyfriends. He didn't want to take a personal call

  • @daveatkins3568
    @daveatkins3568 Před 13 dny +44

    Saying she “cut loose a little “ is like saying P.Ditty is “kind of” suspect. 😎✌🏻

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny

      I just watched a long documentary about this case, and she didn't sleep with all these men. She dated a normal amount of people, most of them meeting them for a coffee, dinner. With a few of them she went further. Her ex (the murderer) went on a real smear campaign against her, and he was really jealous - which is why she ended up dead. Sad to see the label he put out there destroyed her reputation like this, especially since she is no longer here to defend herself.

    • @louisewright8769
      @louisewright8769 Před 6 dny

      The FBI raided P . Dittys house to cover up for the rich and famous and destroy evidence < main stream media dropped that story like a hot cake .

  • @christianbrix4311
    @christianbrix4311 Před 13 dny +43

    Dr. G and I have very different interpretations of the word 'romantic'

    • @ahill4642
      @ahill4642 Před 11 dny +2

      ☺️ This is Dr. G’s way of keeping things clean/gently sarcastic.

  • @carpathianken
    @carpathianken Před 13 dny +66

    0:31 I didn't know Eddie Munster was a member of the Starbuck family.

  • @micnorton9487
    @micnorton9487 Před 13 dny +18

    This Clay guy is ROCKIN that Eddie Munster hairdo lol....

  • @cathexis1325
    @cathexis1325 Před 12 dny +104

    If I was on the jury...I would have voted not guilty. This is not evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

    • @user-mw1mj8do1z
      @user-mw1mj8do1z Před 11 dny +3

      Obviously we can't see it all just watching this video, but based on what's said here, I agree with you. It's not a jury's job to make someone pay during deliberations, only to determine if the case is proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I think way too many juries want to make someone pay on their watch. She deserves justice for sure but convicting someone who may be innocent is not the answer.

    • @lyndawest923
      @lyndawest923 Před 11 dny +1

      I agree.

    • @MargieM10
      @MargieM10 Před 11 dny +3

      Absolutely agree.

    • @PicaPauDiablo1
      @PicaPauDiablo1 Před 11 dny +3

      You realize the trial went on for several weeks right? The jurors hurt a whole hell of a lot that isn't covered here. Did you see any parts of the trial or the closing statements? These reasonable doubts that you think are there I wonder why the defense attorneys didn't make them? Do you think that's incompetence and the defense attorneys were engaged in malpractice or what? I don't know if you've ever been on a jury but what goes on in jury deliberations is markedly different from what gets reported publicly. The system is not perfect but it's a hell of a lot more bias to let guilty people go free then guilty people to get convicted although all these true crime podcasts and TV shows makes everybody think that things work much different than they really do

    • @arawilson
      @arawilson Před 11 dny +1

      @@PicaPauDiablo1 A lot of people think "beyond a reasonable doubt" means zero doubt at all, like, smoking gun and video of the act.

  • @tammys.1543
    @tammys.1543 Před 13 dny +148

    So sad. The kids lost the parent lottery didn’t they?

    • @southrules
      @southrules Před 12 dny +4

      She was a bad mom? Where do you get evidence of that

    • @kaym.2854
      @kaym.2854 Před 12 dny +8

      @@southrules Was she the perfect moral example by teaching her kids to live a risky life and exposing them to all kinds of strangers? So many ways her reckless behavior can be damaging. .

    • @TaylorElizabethHunt
      @TaylorElizabethHunt Před 12 dny +2

      @@kaym.2854not if it was in private( not around the kids)

    • @kaym.2854
      @kaym.2854 Před 12 dny +5

      @@TaylorElizabethHunt please. if it was evident to everyone else, you think the kids who lived there would'nt have known?

    • @southrules
      @southrules Před 12 dny +4

      @@kaym.2854 yeah kids don’t know that their parents have sex, also isn’t it just terrible that people like to have sex, she is so evil! How dare her enjoy sex

  • @susanhill149
    @susanhill149 Před 13 dny +89

    4700 a month is ridiculous Unless he was earning upwards of $300 grand a year it’s way too much. I don’t believe in maintenance or alimony. Just reasonable child support. And all that DNA on her is just disgusting 🤮 . If people honored their wedding vows they’d be a lot better off and so would their kids.

    • @Rebecca-hc5ju
      @Rebecca-hc5ju Před 13 dny +1

      If he was earning $300,000/year, that would only be 18 point something, of his income.

    • @shanebisme
      @shanebisme Před 12 dny +35

      He shouldn't have to pay her a cent. she was a serial cheater. she destroyed his life. why should she be rewarded for it?

    • @custardgannet4836
      @custardgannet4836 Před 12 dny +7

      Should their kids be responsible for that? He gets to dead beat out cos his wife was running around getting stretched on the daily? That's not the kids fault.​@@shanebisme

    • @xenophagia
      @xenophagia Před 12 dny +19

      ​@@custardgannet4836 She shouldn't have had custody of the kids.

    • @joshuagann8026
      @joshuagann8026 Před 12 dny +4

      ​@@custardgannet4836then take care of your kids. easily could have got custody the woman was clearly unstable. You have custody of the kids you can actually support THEM not the wh-re .

  • @geekinasuit8333
    @geekinasuit8333 Před 13 dny +130

    Imagine being unable to speak, and you managed to dial 911 in secret while being held captive, but no one bothers to show up at your home, and you end up being murdered. It appears that no investigation was done after the 911 call was received, and even a simple welfare check was bungled. I can only speculate as to how high the level of policing incompetence may be in this situation like this. Here's what I think, the incompetence was very high. As to Clay's innocence, I think he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but a much more professional and conclusive investigation should have been performed.

    • @Cometcast12
      @Cometcast12 Před 13 dny

      This is a huge problem with police. They ignore or don’t follow up quickly on things like this. They’re working on other things like pulling over mostly law abiding citizens at random and doing fishing expeditions to invent charges. That means they’re safe, flexing their power, and working on “their terms”. That’s what police enjoy doing with their time

    • @bangbangboogie8671
      @bangbangboogie8671 Před 13 dny +9

      Wow excellently worded. Thanks for sharing.

    • @llYossarian
      @llYossarian Před 13 dny +7

      I always wonder about situations like this and if the victim knew how to tap out an SOS, would an emergency operator would even recognize it? -- edit: It would almost always be possible to tap the receiver _(3 quick, 3 slow, 3 quick)_ more quietly than it would to actually dial 911 ...I also wonder if repeating the SOS would be more or less likely to confuse the operator.

    • @evansmith2279
      @evansmith2279 Před 13 dny

      The 4th amendment and “castle doctrine” are very high bars to hurdle. Generally speaking, with 911 hang ups, in the absence of any further info suggestive of exigency, police can’t enter.

    • @cogitoergospud1
      @cogitoergospud1 Před 13 dny +5

      Cell phones don’t give an address. And in a lot of cases, no owner identity.

  • @RullXov
    @RullXov Před 13 dny +32

    Thanks, Dr. Grande and FYI Adam Montgomery was sentenced today to a minimum of 45 years plus other consecutive sentences in N H.

  • @ambergriffes6122
    @ambergriffes6122 Před 13 dny +52

    Only speculating that you will no doubt make this enjoyable Dr. Grande 😅

  • @Kathy-us6zx
    @Kathy-us6zx Před 13 dny +48

    How would the ex husband know she is having sex with a lot of men…. She told him ? I’m not sure how the mother thought having all these men in her life was safe for her children either … this is very tragic . Thank you for the story Dr. Grande ❤

    • @StoopidSmith323
      @StoopidSmith323 Před 12 dny

      She was gross and a terrible mother but imagine how empowered she must have felt getting used like a fleshlight by 10 guys a week. Boss girl stuff.

    • @joeramirez7879
      @joeramirez7879 Před 12 dny +15

      Just being a mother doesn't automatically make them a good one,known rotten ones on both sides.

    • @geekinasuit8333
      @geekinasuit8333 Před 12 dny +10

      I looked into it, more than I should have, and it's not clear that the woman was having sex with many men, that's a claim made by Clay's defence. It looked to me, she was trying to find another partner, and to do that , she was dating several men to find the right one. Some of her dates said that they never had sex with her, it was just a date. The sex toys appear to have been planted by whoever tortured and murdered Chanin, they were used to humiliate the victem. Some time prior to the murder, a bag of dildos was left at Chanin's door, no proof who did it, but Chanin knew it was Clay (she should have invested in a secrity camera system). Apparently she feared Clay and told people close to her that she suspected he was breaking into her home and stealing things. Clay says that everyone who testified that he was feared by Chanin and stalking her are liars. There's two sides to a story, and Dr Grande left out a lot of damning details. Go to Clay's innoncence FB page, it's as if Chanin never even existed, it's 100% all about Clay. If my wife was brutally killed, even if I devorced and wrongfully convincted, my remaining years would be dedicated with finding the real killer. This man Clay, looks to me as a controlling manipulative narcisist, but that's just a theory ...

    • @sternshadowdude2
      @sternshadowdude2 Před 12 dny

      @@geekinasuit8333 Hard to find the real killer when you're wrongfully imprisoned. Your "evidence" that you posted is nothing but hearsay.

    • @spicy1116
      @spicy1116 Před 12 dny +7

      I mean... All that male DNA the investigators found on her kind of confirms that

  • @clarkmay4819
    @clarkmay4819 Před 13 dny +30

    Listen, guys. NEVER GET MARRIED! Marriage is totally unnecessary and is designed to only benefit the woman. Don't do it. Have relationships, but never bind yourself to someone for life with a government contract.

    • @littlerichie874
      @littlerichie874 Před 13 dny

      Yeah, and always wear a condom.

    • @crystalwater505
      @crystalwater505 Před 12 dny +7

      Amen friend.

    • @jagenau6334
      @jagenau6334 Před 12 dny +5

      Add to that kids and cohabitation. Any one of these brings big Daddy government into your life whether you asked for it or not.

    • @geekinasuit8333
      @geekinasuit8333 Před 11 dny

      Getting officially married is mostly symbolic today. The courts tend to look at shared legal and financial responsibilities when a separation occurs. There was an interesting court case a while ago, even though the two partners lived apart in separate homes, they shared enough responsibilities over a period of time to be deemed in a common law relationship. If you have a child, married or not, common law or not, you will still be legally responsible for child support.

    • @brendaredmond4678
      @brendaredmond4678 Před 2 dny

      ​@@geekinasuit8333as it should be.

  • @nuketheswamp7774
    @nuketheswamp7774 Před 13 dny +84

    She destroyed Clay with the aid of the state and he reciprocated. Reform needs to happen for the sake of both sexes.

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny +5

      He had a lot of unpaid child support and the judge got sick of that and ordered 50% of his disability (he was on disability later on) because he was tired of that. Read up on this case, there is a lot more to the story. He was really after her, he even had a restraining order at one point, and all the things about her sleeping with everybody came from him. She did date and she did have sex, but not in the insane amount people seems to think here. He was very jealous and controlling.

    • @jkneeland89
      @jkneeland89 Před 9 dny +4

      @@missJolie85 It would be a lot of unpaid child support if the monthly amount ordered by the judge was REASONABLE, but in this case, it was only 2 months' worth, so not "a lot."

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 9 dny +1

      @@jkneeland89 Does this even sound logical to you. it would take longer than 2 months to have this case up in court again, so obviously it's more than 2 months.

    • @Jimschrbr
      @Jimschrbr Před 9 dny

      @@missJolie85 just the fact that he got her to leave Florida for Alaska is proof enough that he is controlling and manipulative!

    • @jkneeland89
      @jkneeland89 Před 9 dny +1

      @@missJolie85 Do the math, he owes $4700 a month, it’s a approximately 2 months worth.

  • @brebre514
    @brebre514 Před 13 dny +42

    I really thought this was going to be about Starbucks coffee!!! 😂

    • @Eanaj9
      @Eanaj9 Před 12 dny +3

      lol me too

    • @patriciovarela8794
      @patriciovarela8794 Před 12 dny +3

      Me too 😂😂😂

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 12 dny +3

      At some point I thought the DNA of all male employees of the local Starbucks had been found on her.

    • @brebre514
      @brebre514 Před 12 dny

      😹🤣🤣

  • @BRichard312
    @BRichard312 Před 13 dny +105

    The wife was an aspiring dental assistant? I would not want those hands anywhere near my mouth with or without gloves.

    • @stanallport6746
      @stanallport6746 Před 10 dny +3

      pretty rude comment

    • @joreywinmill5226
      @joreywinmill5226 Před 9 dny +10

      @@stanallport6746pretty funny comment *

    • @gmjent5671
      @gmjent5671 Před 9 dny

      @@stanallport6746Rude? Hugh.

    • @phataton7588
      @phataton7588 Před 8 dny +4

      Anyone who’s “aspiring” to be a dental assistant
      Doesn’t have much aspirations

    • @TezzyRs
      @TezzyRs Před 8 dny +6

      everyone has sex, just cause your probably have none, doesnt mean she couldnt do whatever she wanted in this life. grow up.

  • @shadestress9898
    @shadestress9898 Před 12 dny +4

    Why in the hell was she getting $ 4700 month !!??

  • @robertbrode3210
    @robertbrode3210 Před 7 dny +1

    As a person involved in the law for 50 years, You have a presented a great analysis and posed the crucial question; was there reasonable doubt. I agree there was.

  • @lenymitchell
    @lenymitchell Před 9 dny +1

    It never ceases to amaze me how Dr. Grande can describe these situations in a perfect way. His intelligence is on show in the one.

  • @jarrodmelson7802
    @jarrodmelson7802 Před 11 dny +6

    A black light scan for dna in that place probably would have been bright enough to see from space

    • @SerenityES
      @SerenityES Před 6 dny

      As many splatters as stars in the sky

  • @dissidentfairy4264
    @dissidentfairy4264 Před 13 dny +114

    "Religious values"? What religion did she belong to? The Church of the Sexually Free? I agree with your assessment Dr. Grande. I believe Starbuck is the likely suspect, but with Chanin's sexual promiscuity it's not a clear cut case.

    • @Farcehole
      @Farcehole Před 12 dny

      The religious (generally) are the most hypocritical “laws for thee but not for me” bunch of faux self-righteous narcissists on the planet.

    • @tuntitommosille
      @tuntitommosille Před 12 dny +12

      Sounds like the church of modern day feminism - have all the fun you want without taking any responsibility for your own actions.

    • @nunyabiznis9186
      @nunyabiznis9186 Před 12 dny +3

      Dibella worshipper

    • @mairafavela4954
      @mairafavela4954 Před 11 dny +2

      ​@@tuntitommosilleCorrect! I agree. That pretty much sums it up nicely.

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny +2

      I just watched a long documentary about this case, and she didn't sleep with all these men. She dated a normal amount of people, most of them meeting them for a coffee, dinner. With a few of them she went further. Her ex (the murderer) went on a real smear campaign against her, and he was really jealous - which is why she ended up dead. Sad to see the label he put out there destroyed her reputation like this, especially since she is no longer here to defend herself.

  • @HeidiTheGoat
    @HeidiTheGoat Před 13 dny +19

    Thanks for all the wonderful videos todd, I love watching all your videos!

  • @brandon8900
    @brandon8900 Před 13 dny +19

    Im always curious about what the police find during the course of the investigation

  • @projectplus4036
    @projectplus4036 Před 13 dny +13

    Thanks for all the great entertainment Dr. Grande!

  • @Kolamite78
    @Kolamite78 Před 12 dny +8

    I've followed this case for years and have always been torn about his guilt

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny

      I haven't heard about this case before now, and because of this analyses by Dr Grande I just watched a lengthy documentary about this case found here on YT. The dude was horrible, and there was a lot of evidence that pointed at him.

    • @Kolamite78
      @Kolamite78 Před 10 dny

      @@missJolie85 a lot pointed away too

    • @tayba1316
      @tayba1316 Před 8 dny

      @@missJolie85 this case was on dateline too a few years back

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 8 dny

      @@Kolamite78 Well I don’t really consider it that way

  • @elizabethhamm5320
    @elizabethhamm5320 Před 13 dny +125

    He had a right to be angry at Shanon but she didn’t deserve to die. The revenge was not worth throwing his life away and traumatizing his poor children. One of them actually took her own life. So tragic

    • @pameladee
      @pameladee Před 13 dny +11

      Such a sad story….🌵

    • @themonstersmummy
      @themonstersmummy Před 13 dny +3

      So true 😢

    • @telesniper2
      @telesniper2 Před 13 dny +8

      Well generally but it varies. The guy's life probably wasn't going to great at that point anyway, so he figured "what the hell"

    • @Cometcast12
      @Cometcast12 Před 13 dny +29

      Why did he “have a right to be mad at her”? She doesn’t dictate how much money he pays, that stuff is decided by a judge based on his income level and amount of children under 18… He had no reason whatsoever to be mad her her, she did nothing to him except move onto sexual adventures ethically. Not even cheating on him, but doing it in divorce… how are you able to view this woman as a wrongful person at all, in the slightest?

    • @Naranja-mb9rg
      @Naranja-mb9rg Před 13 dny +14

      @@Cometcast12 This is demonstrably false. I encourage everyone to read the court documents before rushing to the comment section with sensational misinformation...

  • @RullXov
    @RullXov Před 13 dny +13

    Her daughters [suicide] sounds sketchy to me.
    Loghan Starbuck’s whereabouts had not been known since Dec. 17 until someone noticed a body in the water Feb. 10 near the Sans Souci mobile home park in Spokane.
    The office said on its website that Starbuck, a 25-year-old of Cheney, died from “asphyxia due to drowning” and that it was a suicide.

  • @pameladee
    @pameladee Před 13 dny +9

    I appreciate your attention to detail, the number of cases you could analyze are mind-boggling!
    This one bothered me only because she had minor children.
    Thank you! 🌵

  • @joeyh9116
    @joeyh9116 Před 13 dny +26

    $4700 a month is insane.

  • @haleytruslow7200
    @haleytruslow7200 Před 12 dny +5

    Dr. Grande’s verdict is more important than the jury’s verdict, in my opinion.

  • @glendasully
    @glendasully Před 13 dny +13

    Of course he murdered her, but the motive wasn't jealousy. It was all that darn high maintenance!

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny

      I just watched a long documentary about this case, and she didn't sleep with all these men. She dated a normal amount of people, most of them meeting them for a coffee, dinner. With a few of them she went further. He, the ex, wanted them to get back together, but having married and divorced twice she did not want to. The ex (the murderer) went on a real smear campaign against her, and he was really jealous - which is why she ended up dead. Sad to see the label he put out there destroyed her reputation like this, especially since she is no longer here to defend herself.

  • @ydoicare2000
    @ydoicare2000 Před 13 dny +14

    wtf is wrong with her 3 little kids and acted like that ??

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny

      I just watched a long documentary about this case, and she didn't sleep with all these men. She dated a normal amount of people, most of them meeting them for a coffee, dinner. With a few of them she went further. Her ex (the murderer) went on a real smear campaign against her, and he was really jealous - which is why she ended up dead. Sad to see the label he put out there destroyed her reputation like this, especially since she is no longer here to defend herself.

    • @crapple009
      @crapple009 Před 8 dny +1

      It's called 'nymphomania'. 'Satyriasis' for men.

  • @taylormfinney
    @taylormfinney Před 12 dny +4

    I love the term “energetic romantic life.” I’ll be using that from now on 😂

  • @robertrinehuls9099
    @robertrinehuls9099 Před 13 dny +23

    I didn't know dead people could be embarrassed.

    • @mement0_m0ri
      @mement0_m0ri Před 12 dny +2

      Their ghosts are, and they come back to haunt you for embarrassing them.

    • @ronald3836
      @ronald3836 Před 12 dny

      "I wouldn't be caught dead doing ..."

    • @chrischamberlain7628
      @chrischamberlain7628 Před 11 dny +3

      Don’t forget she has children and friends. Why make up stuff like this about her. No one knows if she was having sex with men she dated. That’s insane. I’ve dated a lot of men and it never went far enough for that to happen. A ex of mine even told my father I was running around with a bunch of men having sex with them. (I couldn’t believe it when my Dad told me this) Men can get so jealous they will resort to murdering a woman or defaming her. Happens all the time & people believe it.

  • @evangelinewandering9547
    @evangelinewandering9547 Před 12 dny +5

    She obviously lived a promiscuous and as such, risky, lifestyle, but that can never excuse murdering someone.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Před 11 dny

      Thanks for that deep moral treatise !

  • @mikegraham346
    @mikegraham346 Před 12 dny +3

    ........consistent, with it's primary purpose! You crack me up. This is brilliant.

  • @xakk9
    @xakk9 Před 13 dny +15

    we speculating first babyyyyy

  • @mattg56
    @mattg56 Před 13 dny +2

    Thanks Dr. Grande, love your insights!

  • @maryrichardson6029
    @maryrichardson6029 Před 13 dny +5

    Always interesting
    Thank you❤

  • @kristiemarsh49
    @kristiemarsh49 Před 13 dny +5

    Thanks for the video ❤

  • @Ocelot1962
    @Ocelot1962 Před 13 dny +11

    She entertained more semen than Bob Hope.

  • @robertjones2811
    @robertjones2811 Před 13 dny +11

    To be honest this is why I haven’t married yet.

    • @Straightjacket154
      @Straightjacket154 Před 10 dny

      Or…. Women don’t want you.

    • @robertjones2811
      @robertjones2811 Před 10 dny

      @@Straightjacket154 Wow, that was an incredibly rude and unprovoked reaction to my comment. What’s wrong in your life that you feel that to belittle others in such a way? I would imagine you have low self-esteem or some other underlying issues.

  • @asentientgoose
    @asentientgoose Před 12 dny +3

    Dr Grande, we love your videos, but I’d also like to get to know YOU more ✨ would you ever do a Q&A or an assumptions about me video? Love your work!

  • @ilovemycat___
    @ilovemycat___ Před 13 dny +52

    Jealousy is so toxic. Why can’t people accept when something is over

    • @BidensTaint
      @BidensTaint Před 13 dny +40

      $4,700 a month 😂

    • @DS-ss7vl
      @DS-ss7vl Před 13 dny +18

      Because there are a lot of other factors involved. It's not that easy. Get over yourself.

    • @ilovemycat___
      @ilovemycat___ Před 13 dny +11

      @@DS-ss7vl get over myself for not agreeing with murder. Ok

    • @Heywood.Jablome
      @Heywood.Jablome Před 13 dny +2

      ​@@BidensTaint💯

    • @joeramirez7879
      @joeramirez7879 Před 13 dny +15

      That's not why he murdered her she was taking financial advantage of the guy.

  • @kam2162
    @kam2162 Před 12 dny +2

    One year we were having the family Christmas party at my mom's. I was in the bedroom with an overstimulated baby trying to calm her down. My mom let my son play with the phone (landline) because it was keeping him busy. It had large buttons on it. Well he inadvertently called 911. The 911 operator called back to see what was the problem. My mom explained that it was my son, but the police did indeed come out to my moms to make sure everything was ok. Why did no one show up at Chanin's?? Could her murder have been prevented if they had?

  • @Sk8ordiE151
    @Sk8ordiE151 Před 13 dny +1

    Thanks for another entertaining and informative video

  • @calebchristensen900
    @calebchristensen900 Před 13 dny +11

    This seems like something that was extremely circumstantial. No TOD mentioned, no legwork done into the partners of the past couple months. I wonder if they tested the son’s DNA compared to the DNA found?? It’s possible the sons could be just as upset with their mom’s promiscuous actions.

    • @atlasveldine6314
      @atlasveldine6314 Před 12 dny +5

      There's so many things wrong with this case. The ex certainly could have done it, but, it just as easily can be explained as another one of her 10 (known) partners realizing he wasn't the only one, or even just killing her for fun and staging it to point to the ex. I don't know enough of the details to judge - and neither did the court nor jury.

    • @deecarter147
      @deecarter147 Před 12 dny +3

      I wondered about the son too. And here's another alternate theory of the crime - she wasn't 'posed', that was just the position she was in when one of her 10 boyfriends jabbed her with the stun gun for fun and she died laughing (or not). The whole case against the ex-husband is circumstantial as all get out.

  • @shweefranglais7900
    @shweefranglais7900 Před 13 dny +3

    Interesting case and good summary.

  • @christina4832
    @christina4832 Před 11 dny +2

    I just find this so sad. I'm sure Shannon was more than how she died. Her horrible, violent death, and then the way the killer posed her is terrible. I'm sure had wonderful attributes, yet this is how she's remembered.

  • @GalCharlotte
    @GalCharlotte Před 4 dny

    Thanks for posting.

  • @lindas5964
    @lindas5964 Před 13 dny +3

    Dr. Grande pumpin out videos faster than I can watch them.
    😳

  • @bunberrier
    @bunberrier Před 13 dny +10

    Thats a lot to pay each month.

  • @ursinha115
    @ursinha115 Před 12 dny +1

    Thank you, Dr. Grande!

  • @palletwizard
    @palletwizard Před 13 dny +7

    Thank you king for going off

  • @michellenorman2600
    @michellenorman2600 Před 12 dny +31

    Omg. She was not a nice lady. I can’t imagine a mother of young girls screwing around with random guys. Very nasty behavior, but did not deserve to be murdered. I feel very sorry for those children.

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny +3

      I just watched a long documentary about this case, and she didn't sleep with all these men. She dated a normal amount of people, most of them meeting them for a coffee, dinner. With a few of them she went further. Her ex (the murderer) went on a real smear campaign against her, and he was really jealous - which is why she ended up dead. Sad to see the label he put out there destroyed her reputation like this, especially since she is no longer here to defend herself.

    • @DeeLite220
      @DeeLite220 Před 11 dny +1

      @@missJolie85 thank you. This video, and the men in these comments are just awful.

    • @ahill4642
      @ahill4642 Před 11 dny +1

      The fact that the Dad killed her and posed her the way he did? He’s added to his own childrens’ misery and one’s suicide, surely.

    • @protoman1214
      @protoman1214 Před 10 dny

      ​@@missJolie85where did the DNA from multiple men come from then?

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 10 dny

      @@protoman1214 Where did you hear multiple men? From the actual court doc, it was two, and one had familiar DNA with her children, so you can guess who that was. DNA testing of swabs taken from the victim's neck, face, and fingernails revealed that the male Starbuck lineage matched the Y-STR DNA found in those areas. One additional-and unidentified-male contributed Y-STR DNA to Ms. Starbuck's neck.
      I guess if you want to count her murderer as one, then she did have multiple DNA
      She dated to men a the time, one whom she did have a sexual relationship with John Kenlein, and Tom Walker, a man she had met three weeks earlier, whom she hadn't slept with (only went on dates) and he testified to that.

  • @karlaplascencia7998
    @karlaplascencia7998 Před 12 dny +3

    My heart hurts for her. The police should have knocked down her door when she called 911. I wonder if the dispatcher was fired.

  • @kelliearnold8498
    @kelliearnold8498 Před 12 dny

    Amazing job!!❤

  • @Stroopwaffe1
    @Stroopwaffe1 Před 11 dny +1

    The judge who ordered 4700 is the most shocking thing imhho.

  • @cybermandan1960
    @cybermandan1960 Před 13 dny +23

    I know you said the Boeing whistleblower death was not suspicious... but another whistleblower just died. Might be worth an update video.

    • @olliverklozov2789
      @olliverklozov2789 Před 13 dny +6

      Shannon was also a 'whistle' blower.

    • @sheilad.simonette6412
      @sheilad.simonette6412 Před 13 dny

      ​@@olliverklozov2789Really?! What was she blowing the whistle on?

    • @KhukuriGod
      @KhukuriGod Před 12 dny +1

      @@sheilad.simonette6412 A "whistle" that spits out sticky white liquid lol

    • @sheilad.simonette6412
      @sheilad.simonette6412 Před 12 dny +1

      @@KhukuriGod Oic lol. I guess it went over my "head". 😅

    • @kimgysen10
      @kimgysen10 Před 12 dny +2

      She was true musician. Playing different kinds of fluits.

  • @sydneyfairbairn3773
    @sydneyfairbairn3773 Před 13 dny +20

    The DNA under the nails sealed it for me.

    • @MimiRAM0NE
      @MimiRAM0NE Před 13 dny +2

      He only talked about DNA on the neck and phone in particular, nothing about nails.

    • @TES-qf7du
      @TES-qf7du Před 13 dny +7

      ​@MimiRAM0NE , he said and under her finger nails, listen to this part of of the video "9:58 to 10:01"

    • @Neilsowards
      @Neilsowards Před 13 dny +3

      what sealed it for me was the use of a nickname of one of the children on the text message.

  • @WillPhil290
    @WillPhil290 Před 12 dny +2

    I watch your show everyday. I think that your ability to assess situations and cases like this is remarkably profound. What terrifies me is that the vast majority of people cannot think as critically as you do about these things. I have a friend right now that's going to trial and I'm not confident the jurors aren't absolute mouth breathers who are byproducts of a totally gutted education system and have limited higher order thinking skills... I don't know how you got so good at this but I wish more people had your level of insight...

    • @zacharysherry2910
      @zacharysherry2910 Před 12 dny +1

      Absolutely. Dr. Grande obviously has a high IQ. Imagine how different the world would look if everyone was at least 10% smarter.

  • @RinpochesRose
    @RinpochesRose Před 13 dny +8

    Calm shirt 🙂🌸

  • @deannadove3505
    @deannadove3505 Před 13 dny +6

    I can't imagine how her children felt and feel, having to hear of their mother's "behavior". How awful and scarring that must be. Also, the father had so many other ways to deal with this situation. He could have petitioned the court for a freeze on the child support if he was legit ill/injured/out of work. That would have kept the amount from climbing to an insane amount. He also could have gotten an attorney to challenge the massive amount. Thirdly, he could have easily had the mother declared unfit and he would most likely would have been awarded sole custody, if ha had wanted the kids. This is so tragic.

    • @RULucky-yc9gr
      @RULucky-yc9gr Před 6 dny

      Oh yeah...family court is all about helping out the father, especially in matters of child support and custody.

  • @edwardwong654
    @edwardwong654 Před 12 dny +3

    How tragic also that one of his daughters had died.

  • @ChrisP-ni4lz
    @ChrisP-ni4lz Před 13 dny +1

    Love your channel

  • @MEL2theJ
    @MEL2theJ Před 9 dny

    Thank you again Dr. Grande 🙏

  • @CryptoBoss-du7jc
    @CryptoBoss-du7jc Před 12 dny +7

    She must have exceptional time management and manipulation tactics.

    • @missJolie85
      @missJolie85 Před 11 dny

      I just watched a long documentary about this case, and she didn't sleep with all these men. She dated a normal amount of people, most of them meeting them for a coffee, dinner. With a few of them she went further. Her ex (the murderer) went on a real smear campaign against her, and he was really jealous - which is why she ended up dead. Sad to see the label he put out there destroyed her reputation like this, especially since she is no longer here to defend herself.

    • @davehewson
      @davehewson Před 7 dny

      @@missJolie85 can you provide the link to the doc?? my take away from this is it was the bills he had to pay while she was out on the town collecting dna. Money makes people do crazy things.

  • @bold810
    @bold810 Před 13 dny +5

    Dr. Grande- I always wince a little before I click on a new post from you. Like "*Buyer Beware*". 😬

  • @iyalove9383
    @iyalove9383 Před 13 dny +27

    I was thinking Starbucks coffee.... sex toy... cup...😮 I'll head out. Bye-bye now... 👋

  • @johnjames2470
    @johnjames2470 Před 12 dny +3

    How does a man on disability pay close to 5k a month for "maintenance" and child support? I looked up "court ordered maintenance", and it is just a substitute word for alimony. Its definition is to allow the spouse to maintain her existing lifestyle. In other words, Clay was forced to pay his wife so she can have sex with other men. To rub salt in his wound, Clay was forbidden to see two of his biological children. I wonder if the courts secretly monitor these types of situations to see how long before violence is initiated?

    • @user-ov4mk9ox8y
      @user-ov4mk9ox8y Před 7 dny

      The courts would answer to that point: not our mandate over oversee lifestyles or possibles. We can't tell the future.

  • @MichellePocket
    @MichellePocket Před 13 dny +81

    Never seen “Starbuck” as a last name

    • @kevinross6235
      @kevinross6235 Před 13 dny +2

      Creative in an uncreative way

    • @Flamsterette
      @Flamsterette Před 13 dny +14

      Never seen "Chanin" as a first name.

    • @markiangooley
      @markiangooley Před 13 dny +8

      Only fictional characters such as the one in the novel Moby-Dick, in my case…

    • @BidensTaint
      @BidensTaint Před 13 dny +10

      Robbie Starbuck, politician from Tennessee

    • @AristotleandApollo
      @AristotleandApollo Před 13 dny +10

      You guys want anything from Starbuck?

  • @brianpratt3224
    @brianpratt3224 Před 13 dny +23

    I am getting flashbacks to watching Battlestar Gallactica as a kid.

    • @Gizziiusa
      @Gizziiusa Před 13 dny +2

      was confused at first b/c I was thinking of the older version.
      then I got it....not that version.
      yeah, they both sure were stars for their bucks. haha

    • @sca8217
      @sca8217 Před 11 dny

      Bears, beets, Battlestar galactic a

  • @edwardsanchez3708
    @edwardsanchez3708 Před 11 dny +2

    It's crazy how they withhold certain information from the juries. I went to jail in the mid 90s for a weapon charge. The person dropped the charges, but the state picked it up. Out of nowhere, they brought up my juvenile record of getting caught skipping school and getting caught out after curfew. They made me sound worse than Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy, combined lol

  • @johnbauman4005
    @johnbauman4005 Před 13 dny +7

    Once again: Restraining order = death warrant.

  • @Ken-fh4jc
    @Ken-fh4jc Před 13 dny +14

    That’s terrible their daughter killed herself over this shit most likely.

  • @Craterface666
    @Craterface666 Před 11 dny +2

    This wouldn't happen if the state didn't fuck over men in divorce. Women shouldn't get a payday for being evil.

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 Před 12 dny +16

    I wonder if her frequent visitors were also customers.

  • @mphase7575
    @mphase7575 Před 11 dny +4

    She sounds like a horrible person. Can't say I feel sorry for her

  • @paulfranklin4650
    @paulfranklin4650 Před 13 dny +12

    Thanks for the vid. Please consider the case of George Burch and Nicole VanderHeyden in Green Bay, Wis.

  • @canadiankrispybacon1450
    @canadiankrispybacon1450 Před 8 dny +2

    $60k a year in Child Support..let that sink in for a minute 🤔
    Man not working due to injury…doesn’t matter..pay up!

  • @Chet73
    @Chet73 Před 16 hodinami

    Dr. Grande and his hilarious sayings. “romantically active” 😂😂😂

  • @venderstrat
    @venderstrat Před 13 dny +11

    Good day from Queensland.

  • @jman95510
    @jman95510 Před 12 dny +8

    If the judge hadn’t awarded her 4700 a month she would probably still be alive.