BIG POWER on a Shortline (4K) | CORP Roseburg Turn | Siskiyou Line | July 14, 2023
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- Take a trip on the historic Siskiyou Line with some big EMD power hauling the CORP's largest train.
This is the CORP Siskiyou Line featuring the Roseburg Turn Job 501 heading South between Cottage Grove OR and Roseburg OR.
00:00 - Intro
00:38 - South of Cottage Grove OR
02:32 - Curtin OR and South of
08:26 - Drain OR and South of
12:42 - Yoncalla OR
14:48 - Rice Hill OR
21:52 - Oakland OR
26:40 - Sutherlin OR
Taken with the DJI Mavic 3 Pro.
Music is used from Artlist.
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Having grown up in Cottage Grove late 60's to early 90's. I have watched SP run 100 car trains north loaded and south empty. Usually 3 trains north and 3 or 4 trains south per day. It was all wood products. Back in the day it was SD 9's, then SD 40-2's, SD 40-T2's and SD 45-T.
My Late father used to tell me about the steam engines coming north and south on the line.
Wow, it takes me back to my childhood. Good drone video Dan.
Long trains, strong engines, big sky, soothing music, history, geography, and facts all in a story of a day in the life of a train: what is not to like ! Plus, great narrative voice. I like this format - award winning videography.
Well thanks very much! Glad you think highly of the narrating!
Very nicely done! Dan has yet to disappoint.
Thanks so much Bill!
The four SD70s seem to have more power than is needed to move this train with its consist of mostly empty center beam flatcars. You did indicate that all that power will be needed to take the loaded train from Roseburg, Oregon back to Cottage Grove, Oregon because of the steeper grades in that direction. I enjoyed watching the Roseburg Turn, Job 501, as it made its way along the Central Oregon and Pacific Railroad on its way between Cottage Grove, Oregon and Roseburg, Oregon. Thank you, Dan, for uploading this video for us to enjoy!
Hi ! Tom, Dan's doing a great job documenting. He's the best right now on ariel videos that I know of.
Here's one you may enjoy, also.
Happy Trails!
czcams.com/video/zF962nigskQ/video.htmlsi=f5kutyNykZ6ikOQS
You are correct. For this Southbound run they don't need all this power but for the Northbound trip later in the day sometimes these 4 units are barely enough. I guess I'll have to get out there again and get a video of that at some point huh? Thanks a lot Thomas!
At first I thought the four heavy duty locomotives were overkill. But after watching the video they need every horsepower to move this long train through the hills, especially the loaded one. It's indeed amazing the EMD demo engines from '92 are still earning their keep. The water sprayer is cute and important too. I'm sure the railroad doesn't want to start a fire in the middle of a hot summer. Oregon is a very nice state, especially this time of the year, when everything is green and healthy. The little villages along the track are quiet and peaceful. Fantastic video again Dan, I really enjoyed the flight.
Thanks a lot Z! Very glad you enjoyed! This video is a great example of the landscape of Southern Oregon.
On class one (10mph) rail, horsepower is not what is needed but drawbar pull; four SD 9's could pull that train.
Fantastic video! There are some really breathtaking landscape shots in it.
Wow, what a camera and the footage, Awesome!
I watch these amazing videos and I think that America hasn't really changed much in the last 150 years. It's the same land.
Very sweet Dan, what great views and info! That was very nicely done! (Dave).
Thanks a lot Dave!
Your very welcome.@@TheRailfanDan
My special needs son really likes the Siskiyou line he says it looks very scenic and thinks the Oregon department of transportation should run passenger trains on this line because it is so scenic and historic.
That would be amazing! I know I would want to ride it if it was real! Lots of history here.
@@TheRailfanDan Thank you for your reply we are glad you agree and hope it becomes real soon or sooner than soon God willing so God bless you 🙏✝️🔥🥀🕊🐑🐏👼🤴😇✡ John 3:16
Amtrak once ran the Cascades from Eugene to Glendale to try and inspire demand for service to that part of Oregon, though nothing ever came from that, I'm guessing there just isn't enough demand for Amtrak service down there. The other problem is the Siskiyou line has so many turns and the track condition isn't very good to the point that passenger service isn't very practical! The tunnels in certain parts like cow Creek canyon also don't have a lot of clearance, that's why the one time you did see Union Pacific use this line as a detour a couple of years ago, you didn't see anything intermodal!
@@jacksonwhittier3646 We understand but my son was thinking of railcars like Doodlebugs, Budd RDC'S, and speeders for use on the Siskiyou line not passenger trains with coaches pulled by a separate locomotive and thinks they could pull intermodal trains on this line all they have to do is hire RJ Corman to improve the tunnel clearance and replace the old rails with new ones. But more importantly, with God ✝️🤴✡all things are possible and you can take that to the bank 🏦.
@@gretchenchadwick8343 Another great idea would be a summertime excursion train like what the Albany and Eastern does, where it's one loco and 4 or 5 coaches, some of which are open top, it's not meant for commercial use, only leisure. I think CORP is also currently working on replacing old rails because in this video some sections that were 10mph restricted are now what looks to be 25mph, I'm not sure about the tunnels though, I heard the reason they won't run these EMD's south of Roseburg is because the turns get really tight and they would scrape the walls of the tunnels.
Great!
Your the best Dan!
Nuff said.
Thank you Ron!
This was super awesome to watch Dan!
Thanks a lot man!
Beautiful !!
love the narration
Very good video and informative. Thanks.
Splendid video. VERY INSPIRATIONAL for us n-gauge modellers from Europe who are interested in U.S. railroads. If you look at this video, you see that
OREGON is also a God blessed place and spoiled by nature!
Many greetings from Belgium!
Thank you so much I feel so privileged to live in the Western United States!
@@TheRailfanDan ♥️👍
Just fantastic. Incredible. I wish there were trains at that speed to record here. They usually run at 55 - 60 mph.
A month ago a flight in 45 mph went wrong and a crash into the trees of the nearby mountains was a fact. The 4 000 USD Mavic 3 pro had to be found by climbing an almost vertical mountain up to a level of 120 feet. Being 70 years old and not physical.... It was a miracle to manage and get back home in one piece with both the drone and the controller.
You live in a very drone filming friendly part of the world.
Yikes! That is a bummer, real bad. I definitely do deal with quick paces as well and have also lost some drones over the years. About 2 months ago I had to go searching for my Mavic 3 Pro in a forest as well and luckily did find it. That is a miracle for sure!
@@TheRailfanDan The function "Find my drone" made it possible. Without it, pointless to even think about searching for it.
Here's the full screen recording, from take off to "found it".
czcams.com/video/z0uGnmAGMzk/video.html
Love short lines,I started with western pacific.2nd generation not a short line but over shadowed by sp up bn sfe,Corp don't get swallowed up good luck.
Excellent video Dan it was great seeing veteran locomotives in commercial service
Thanks a lot!
So here's a few fun facts about the Siskiyou line: the line was one of the very last lines to use the old US&S B-style lower quadrant semaphores, and even very common to see not only the old foundations of the signals, but also the silver junction boxes on the adjacent telephone poles where the signals once stood.
Another thing, if you look carefully, you'll see a year build-date on each of the through trestles. Most trestles built in this style on the line show a year of 1906. I remember seeing them as a child and thinking about how many trains they've supported over the years. Sure, the number of trains have diminished substantially since Southern Pacific sold the line in 1994, but to know that they're still holding well is Testament to the quality of those builds.
And finally, if one was to walk along the siding and read the build locations and dates of the rails on those sidings, they would likely see build locations like Lackawanna, Steelton, Illinois, and even Colorado. Most of the older dates range from 1946 all the way as far back as 1909!
I have other tidbits, but don't wanna create a book within the message board here so I'll stop now 🤣
Great video, as always, Dan! Keep it up!!
Thanks so much for the info. I always like to hear the back story that's relevant to the video.
Thank you Mike and thank you for the added info!
Well done. Dan, you need to cover the CPKC 2816's tour to Mexico.
I really want to see that thing but unfortunately probably won't be able to.
I live next to this line and they have a sd45 on it now regularly.
I've noticed that one. Adds some nice variety.
Great video, as usual. Amazing drone work and I really enjoy the calm music. One minor correction, Worcester [as in Providence and Worcester, the SD70M-2's] is pronounced 'wooster'. It's a shortline here in New England.
Thank you I wasn't sure of the pronunciation and even tried to look it up but to no avail... Hate when I get something wrong like that.
I see they've started increasing the track speeds back to 25mph finally!
FINALLY is right! I have waited so long for that and was extremely surprised when I saw it happening. I have a hard time enjoying this chase without some 25mph running.
@@TheRailfanDanThe whole line used to be 25mph a couple years ago but the problem is that the tracks have deteriorated to such a point that you can't go ever 10mph without either wrecking the tracks or the train. I'm guessing the 25mph parts have continuously welded rail on them because Portland and Western has started doing that and that's why some of their trains are faster now. You could probably get speeds up to 35 or 40mph if they redid the ballast and ties as well as tilted the turns but I don't believe this line generated enough revenue to warrant that!
Great video! One minor correction: "Worcester" (as in "Providence and Worcester") is pronounced "Wuh-stah" here in New England! Like Worcestershire sauce.
Thanks someone else already pointed it out... Hate making a mistake like that and even searched for correct pronunciation to no avail.
Roseburg was the site of a disaster in 1958. A truck loaded with dynamite parked downtown overnight and caught fire. Leveled a whole city block, as I remember.
Was actually August 7th, 1959. Did alot more damage than a city block. The Douglas county museum has a nice display and photos of it.
Right, it's only been 64 years.@@davidmihevc3990
I have never before seen that water spray car behind the engines idea. Is this more common than I realize? Fire country ? suddenly very curious.
That is a carry over from SP days.
It's not common anymore, usually the big class 1s have a separate train but on this line it's a tradition carried over from the SP days!
Very common for this railroad during the summer. I believe there are 4 or 5 different trains that use them on the CORP.
@@TheRailfanDanYep and most of the hauler trains have to run at night due to an agreement with a few fire departments, the idea is that since the temperature is lower at night, it's less of a fire risk, though I dunno if that's year round or summer time only!
Excellent scenery, Dan. Judging by the green grass most places, I'm guessing that you filmed this in May or maybe June?
July
Do you know the Roseburg turns ‘schedule’ by chance? I plan on taking a trip up there one day
Yes what you see here is normal. Here are some times from this day:
-First shot South of Cottage Grove at 7:53 AM
-Safley 8:26 AM
-Drain 8:52 AM
-Yoncalla 9:41 AM (crew change before this had them stopped a bit)
-Rice Hill 10:00 AM
-Oakland 10:40 AM
-Sutherlin 10:55 AM
Take this with a grain of salt but this is pretty typical give or take an hour for each location.
Thank you!
You can't get a more apt Oregon town name than Drain.
It's right up there with Boring. 😄😄😄
Haha I guess so!
Great video Dan! When does this train run? Specifically, when does it pass through cottage grove?
Generally early in the morning probably between 5 and 7am and then later in the evening around the same time PM.
@@TheRailfanDan great! Thanks Dan! Is this all 7 days a week?
@@SBRstudios Only 5 normally. Monday - Friday.
@@TheRailfanDan thanks again Dan!
Great video content.
Please ditch the music
Thank you
And do what? Have silence?
Million dollar modern diesels running 10 mph because CORP is too cheap to maintain the line.
Correction: Genesee & Wyoming is too cheap to maintain the line. CORP is just a subsidiary.
@@AnontheGOAT Yeah, yeah, and before that it was Rail America. My point is the contradiction of running high power high speed modern power on class one rail when earlier and much cheaper geeps and SD's would do fine.
@@Hogger280 I understand the contradiction, but the CORP is not a class I. It's a class II. So it's par for the course to have some odd motive power on them.
@@AnontheGOAT Odd yes, but usually old stuff.
@@Hogger280 True. But man kinda cool to see not one but two modern EMD’s on a short line. Even if they are only doing 10mph. 😂