Can't Believe an Audio Company did This! They totally redeemed themselves.. Fosi Audio TB10D Review
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just got banned from Audio Science Review because of this review. I googled a Geshelli Labs amp and saw that they did a review of it. I really like their products. anyway someone in the comments was dumping on Geshelli and made a statement about "bespoke" products being useless. so I replied to him and pointed out "the error of his ways". so someone else comes at me and I see he has a post regarding "Cheap Audio Man and who would ever listen to him. Well i replied with a link to this review and stated that apparently Fosi Audio does. so the wolves came for me and this is when I realized that these are the folks that you refer to in your audiophile rants and I assume that you are mocking the guy who runs this site in your early speaker shootout videos when you put those random statues on the speakers. never really knew why you did that. now I know. 🤣 anyway, I enjoy your stuff.
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Randy you are as much of a game changer as much as Fosi Audio. Fosi Audio wouldn't have listened to me but you being the voice for your community makes Fosi Audio notice that they need to adjust things. Congratulations Fosi Audio on listening and the willingness to improve your products so we can now enjoy the music.
Thanks, FOR. appreciate you
Well said!
@JohnScheppler you got some brown stuff on your nose, its a youtube channel, aint changing nothing but his income!
Props to FOSI Audio for taking criticism like a business that wants to improve the products they manufacture. May have to consider the TB10D for future TV audio upgrades I recommend and install.
It would have been nice to rev the name to ensure that new buyers are getting the good version...
@@whollymindless I've been told via email that their verified sellers only sell the revised version only now.
@@orientalcorn3536 Is the verified sellers list readily available?
Oh my god I laughed when you mentioned Ifi as taking criticisms poorly. I was outright lied to and stone-walled by their customer service rep when I reported that my DAC was dropping out occasionally and provided all the useful diagnostic information I possibly could. All I got from their end was gaslighting and passive aggression, nothing constructive. It kills me inside when manufacturers make very good products that I happily praise to no end, only to get kicked in the teeth by their toxic customer support. Fosi Audio are chads for responding constructively and I hope nothing but the best for them.
It sounds like Fosi want to be around. They really care what their customers think and make the necessary improvements. Well done Fosi!
Topping and SMSL are on audio forums 24/7. They’re always listening and responding to issues. They also show graphs of actual measurements too.
i just received it, 71 euros in France, this thing is incredible !! and i have an Aiyima A07, an A04, an SMSL AO200 and a IOTAVX SA3 PA3 so I can compare !! Thanks Randy
How does it compare to your A07? Trying to decide for an office set up at low volume listening. Thank you!
Honest truth...just bought this today based on your recommendation, for a garage system. It sounds really, really good on a pair of Sony SSC-55 through an IFi Zen Blue off my phone. Now my garage is rockin!
Love hearing about companies doing this, updating their products after getting feedback from their customers and even reaching out to reviewers like Randy, my first and current desktop pair dac/amp are actually from Fosi....running a Fosi Audio BT20A-S AMP and a Fosi Audio Q4 DAC and I very much like the sound, been thinking about upgrading lately to maybe an Ayima A07 and a T8 like randy recommended awhile back or even a T9, We'll see.
I'm so glad you came back to revisit this amp. I contemplated purchasing one during the Prime early access sale but couldn't convince myself because of your earlier review. Just pulled the trigger on one for my desktop system. Thanks!
Hope you enjoy it!
how are you liking it?
Nice they listened to you and changed this amp so extensively. Great work, Randy.
Love Fosi! Been using the BTA20A TPA3116 with a pair of small bookshelf Klipsch for my desktop setup and it's getting louder than my room can handle. Cool to see they've made improvements.
Picked this up for $63 on Amazon and paired it with the Jamo S803s which I found for $100. I think they went down even further to $85. Such a great time to get into audio. Thanks for the solid content man
just the combination i want to make, how they sound?
Purchasing it tomorrow, your link, on your review.
Had it as a finalist,a long with Aiyima A07 and a couple of others.
Thanks for evaluating equipment retired folks can afford.
Hope you enjoy it!
Very nice! Listening to the customer - is an *excellent* concept!
Just pulled the trigger on this (Amazon price right now is awesome $59). I saw the original video and decided to wait; so glad I did. Excited to see how this sounds.
Christmas came early this year as I got one at that price too. I wish they'd make one with HDMI eARC or optical inputs, I had to spend an extra $13 for an adapter.
@@greatpix Hard deal to pass up for that price! (it was weird, as soon as I purchased I noticed the $20 off disappeared so maybe it was just for us "special" people). Anyway, you're right about the HDMI, it would be nice. Merry Christmas!
I have this based on your recommendation and just use some OLD BIC Venturi 6.5" bookshelves and it's really a great little amp. Smooth, slightly warm sound and has enough headroom I don't think I have ever clipped it. Really an awesome value. Thanks again for the recommendation!
I am really happy with my Fosi Audio BT20A that I use for my bedroom. I mainly use the bluetooth and have it hooked up with a pair of Jamo S60 bookshelfs. It sounds great. The Jamos don't have a lot of bass though. Probably because its a surround speaker.
But the amp is good and has a ton of power
The Aiyima A07 still rocks my world. Not letting go of that thing anytime soon. I use it with a pair of old Optimus Pro 77s and a Douk Audio P1 pre connected to my PC via USB. Works for me!
Your content keeps getting better, its great to have honest reviews, thanks
Lol. Well thank you. You may be in the minority with that opinion. But it’s very kind of you to say
Thank you Randy. I have the first version and only use it to have speakers on the deck. Ok for background sound. I hooked it up to the Klipsch Chorus and wasn't impressed. Never bothered again.
After watching this review and making a rare impulse buy because you had me curious. Hooked them up to the Klipsch and I was floored. Compaired to vintage Carver gear (original owner) didn't sound quite as good, but $75 compaired to way more. Wow! Not even close to over a thousand dollar difference. It held it's own. Impressive. Fun to listen to.
Wife out of the house so time to give it a workout. Literally knocked a picture off the wall and sound was clean. Not much impresses me. This did.
Thank for your reviews.
Randy: So good to hear a reviewer speak well of tone controls. As you know - because of the variances in simple loud-speaker characteristics - being able to raise or attenuate the extreme ends of the sound spectrum is almost a given. The ends of the spectrum are where most speakers show their weaknesses. Having tone controls that have wide "Q" settings for under 100 hz for Bass & centered at 12khz for Treble is a BIG FREAK'N DEAL. Best wishes.
A bit of fine tuning: The Aiyma A07 can output audio signal on the rear 3.5mm jack, but that output is not controlled by the volume control. Thus, it isn't useful for a subwoofer (unless you want to adjust the sub volume every time you change the Aiyma volume).
I am using an A07 on my desk, and it says this in the manual. I have to use the speaker outputs to feed my speakers and subwoofer's hi level inputs.
Incidentally, I am quite satisfied with the Ayima A07 for a near field desktop system amp. It is a tool; it just soldiers along.
If I didn't already have passive speakers on the desk, I would likely have just purchased a pair of powered monitors.
Reliable and Honest Review More Power to this Man. No Ghost Stories on the Amplifier review
Keep ‘em honest and keep ‘em accountable to performanceS this channel does that and it only means better stuff for us.
Really loved this video. Thanks for doing this. Some great options here!
I keep saying this but the A07 is great and if you want tone controls this seems like a great option, or if you already have an A07 could always throw a preamp with tone controls at it.
Thanks for the recommendation, Randy. I replaced a 5-year old SMSL SA50 with this amp. My PC desktop with Behringer UMC202HD DAC and vintage ADS 300 speakers is improved in every way. The soundstage in this nearfield layout is surprisingly good. I am puzzled why the Treble knob is on the left and the Bass is on the right, never seen that in any amp/receiver I have owned in the last 50 years. But that's a minor niggle given that I'll probably set them and forget them.
Once again, it's a pleasure to watch your videos. I wonder if the BT30D PRO (available on Fosi website) which implements the same chips has similar sound performances ? This model's got BT, sub out for both passive/active, tone controls and low pass filter.
yes and no, while gr11 has 0 innovation it does have rare sound signature found nowhere iirc
Great video Randy! Based on your comments, it sounds like you need to roll the op amps on the Aiyima A07 (which I have done) to match the Fosi TB10D, is that right? With the rolled op amps, do you like the A07 better than the stock TB10D?
Thank you Randy! Got one and thank God, it's the updated version! Wow.... Coming from an A07, wow.... Sounds warmer and much more open to me. Finally feeling the music, which couldn't really do with the A07. Thanks!!!
Such a big difference with the Aiyima? Really?
I was waiting for this comment! Thank you for helping me out!!!!
Hi Randy,
thank you for this video.
Besides I miss the Geshelli J2 dac in your list of recommended DACs.
best regards from Berlin, Germany
Carsten
I just got one for $60 on their black friday deal, i love it! thanks randy for finding this deal!
We call that, honesty, which is why we trust you and, we call them honest for caring, changing and giving it a shot with all they got. I am in.
Likely for the first gen they used pots with too high of a range for the tone controls. Props to them for taking the criticism well and actually improving. I might be interested in picking up one or two myself.
I think the TB10D is still the best of the units because of its price to performance ratio. Tone controls, 3255 chip, upgradable power supply and it’s only $55 right now….. is crazy!!!!!
I bought two of the BT30D’s I like them so much.
Fosi probably offered two power supply options on the V3 because of this video.... so another bravo for calling out - you should be a product manager !
Hey Randy, thanks for the updated review. I was on the market for a cheap desktop amp and so I just purchased it. I'll let you know if I like it once it has arrived (here in The Netherlands it takes a while to get delivered). I have no doubt it'll be an improvement over my current "NobSound" amp, though. Love your videos, keep 'm coming.
Really? Have you ordered from Sound Imports? Or Audiophonics? They sell your typical Chinese class D desktop amps. They ship in a just a few days. I live in France BTW.
Hi @cheapaudioman, it was a success! The Fosi Audio TB10D just got delivered this morning and it is truly a bang for your buck. I have it connected to a pair of Wharfedale Diamond's 11.0 and that's definitely worth it. I have them on my desktop and previously hooked them up to a Nobsound NS-01G Pro, el cheapo Ali Express amp. So you can imagine my joy when listening to the new amp for the first time. Thanks.
@@robvermeulenhow has the TB10D held up? Considering one for some Wharfedale Diamond 12.0 for an office system. Thank you!
@@ramondelgado6778 I'm still happy and have no real complaints. The Wharfedales 11.0 make a good match with the TB10D, and it still works as new. No flimsy potentiometers or such. I would recommend to use bare wire connections with the amp's speaker binding posts instead of banana plugs. In my case they often fell out after just the slightest movement.
@@robvermeulen Thank you so much! And happy holidays to you!!!
Just bought a Fosi Audio K5 Pro. They seem to be quickly growing up from a random Amazon brand to a serious contender. Can't wait to try it.
How is it?
Hi, thank you for your honest review. For some time I'm searching for a small amp to my now old Mission m73 speakers. Can this amplifier be a good match for my speakers? Thank you and keep the videos coming.
Picked this up today for $59 off amazon. Using it for some older Bose 301 Series III's that I've had for a few years. Putting these up for my desktop PC. Previously powered by a Pioneer VSX-D307, but looking to make the footprint of my audio equipment a little smaller on my desk. Saw the review and got this one, instead opting for a couple other Fosi's. Excited!
Hey Randy, I bought one Fosi to power my Forte' II speakers. The tone controls really are a blessing. Added a bit of bass and the speakers woke up and now they sound better than ever. So......I bought a 2nd Fosi and now run them as mono blocks using the right chnl of each one to driver a Forte'. WOW the soundstage opened a ton; like never before. The 160 bucks I have spent on these two amps is hands down the best money I have ever spent on audio.....Thanks for the heads up on these amps.
That’s a very gd idea buying two and using them that way hmm
Hey Jerry, I was looking at running my Forte II as well. I was wondering if you are running this amp? The updated TB10D. Thank you for your time!
@@TechKnow15 , yes. I am using two of them. I am really impressed with the performance and the soundstage is HUGE.
Fosi Audio customer service is just great. I bought a Q5 dac and it has some issue with the dac. I took a video and sent it to the customer service and they send me a replacement dac for free! Was shocked at the customer service.
I bought one of these today based on your recommendation. It's a no-brainer for my bedroom. I already have an older Sonos connect ZP100 and some bookshelfs lying around, so this will be just the thing to make my bedroom sing.
Well, the unit came in and I set it up via an old Sonos ZP100 Connect through some Wharfedale Diamond III's in my bedroom, and my god... This thing sounds amazing! The amount of power on tap with the stock PSU is simply outrageous. The sound is really clean and detailed, with authoritative but not boomy bass. I am super happy with this Amp, especially for $90 Canuckistani Kopeks
Great review and exactly what I needed. My really old (and big) amplifier is starting to warm up quite a bit even in stand by and it has to go before it sets in fire 😂 My budget is limited, I dont't require a whole lot, I want something small and I really like the way my old speakers sound. They might not be the most accurate, but I just really love them and I save money by not buying active speakers.
It was indeed the proper way for Fosi Audio to respond.
Now, question: is the new TB10D worth the upgrade over their TB10A for a desktop environment (which I'm quite happy with)?
Basically it's 1xTPA3255 vs 2x TPA3116 ( is it one per channel?)
BTW, the TB10A is now $56 ($70 -$14 coupon) which is also a pretty good deal if you don't need tons of power (rated at 100W/8ohms)
Got a FOSI ST30D (2.1 amp) with a passive sub. Fantastic sound for my workdesk.
got my first one yesterday. Replaces a peachtree amp driving older Paradigm 10's Awesome. Already ordered another
Just bought the Fosi TB120D and now Im deciding for Micca OoO speakers vs Micca RB42 which I saw in one of your videos. Thanks.
This looks like a nice unit, but the SMSL AO100 is another great choice. That gives you a remote, digital volume control, digital bass and treble presets, subwoofer out, bluetooth, and about 45 wpc for 8 ohms. I love my Aiyima A07, was an early adopter for the SMSL SA50 years ago...so many good choices now for $150 or less, it's really just a question of the feature set one wants.
Hey Randy! Loving the channel mate! I’m looking to build a little desktop system around this and a Dragonfly Black DAC - what would be a good set of passive speakers around the €100 mark? Cheers, Dan.
Soooo, you gave it an outstanding review, but you also get a commission if we buy it through one of your links? I don't see any concerns there whatsoever! Very nice!
You can choose whether or not to buy the product. Riddle me this… if everything I recommended was actually garbage and hundreds of people had a bad experience then how is that a smart move for my channel. Your concerns should be with channels taking payment up front and not disclosing… because then you “don’t” have a choice as the viewer
Thanks Randy for helping us fill our souls with happiness! One request - could you do a review/comparison of the Aiyima Tube-A3 and the Aiyima Tube T7 ? Trying to find the right tube preamp for my setup. Thanks again!!!
If you can use just a preamp the Aiyima T7 with GE or RCA tubes plus Sparkos op amps is the best I have found.
Also add an Aiyima A07 with Sparkos op amps. All you will ever need. Plus Mogami connects of course.
Ops. Forgot to mention you also need a Gishelli J2.
"Not going to name any names" .... I will, Tekton
I guess this proves that implementation is everything. Having quality parts, doesn't necessarily mean it will sound or perform well.
you should consider taking down or putting a disclaimer on your earlier review. I bought one of these online yesterday thinking it was good and stumbled onto your old review. i thought, well, just blew some money. now I see this and I think it will be good when it arrives. thanks for the updated review.
Hi Randy! tried the upgraded TB 10 D good sound whit css5 and m20-3 but the recent bt 20a sounded cleaner thanks
I just installed this with Buchardt S400++. Caution if you use Speaker connectors with large metal barrels. The speaker jacks flex enough to short. I put a playing card as an insulator parallel to the tabletop, between top and bottom jacks.* note: metallic embossed playing cards not recommended.
The fosi doesn't sound as good as my Denafrips Thallo, but is not broken in.
I switched to tuneful Belden 9497 speaker cable and heard a noticeable difference in tone. The cable costs slightly more than the amp.
A company called ballastshop makes custom power bricks. Recommended 36v and 8 amp power brick. I paired this with JBL 530 speakers and there was some synthesis. The highs were not as good as expensive speakers but both covered each other's weaknesses. This amp encourages spending your budget on your speakers.
I actually have a fx-audio tube 03 connected to my aiyima a07 working as a preamp/ tube buffer. Now I have tone controls. 😀
After buying my second one of these, I can't thank you enough.
I bought the Fosi Audio HD3 portable DAC/amp (also $70) a year ago and I'm really pleased with it. Unfortunately, I don't think it's available anymore.
Great review, what Fosi would you recommend for laptop and headphones?
Got my coffee listening attentively Randy….
First of all thank you for all your great videos! Is it also possible to swap the op amps with Sparkos like with the Aiyima? I need an EQ, so the Aiyima unfortunately falls out.
i have a couple of Fosi Audio DA2120A's for desk top use & i gotta say that they are pretty good; they cost around 120 & with a remote control + loads of connectivity too 😁 how about doing a review on that one? ✌✌
Just ordered mine using your link. I really don't need it but at $72 what the heck. I'll use it with a Schiit Modi 3 I have in my closet. Thanks
I received the unit today and all I have to say is wow. I hooked it up to a Cambridge Azure 851N and Emotiva T2+ speakers. I'm a bit shocked out how well it handled all the music I threw at it. I played it for a couple of hours and it didn't even get warm with a 4 ohm load. I had it turned about a quarter of the way up and it is loud and clear, great separation and imaging. No noise during quiet passages. What would be nice on this unit is maybe another set of RCA inputs and a sub woofer out. But for $72 I'm still amazed. One thing I learned from this is to question my spending on systems that cost 20x as much and don't perform any better. It's just a basic no frills amp with no bells and whistles that sounds great. Thanks for this tip Randy.
Thanks for the review, I hooked up to and old Adcom pre-amp and sounds great! Ordered an AIYIMA T-6 Pro so I can get some additional inputs. (Wally world has T-6 for less than Amazon). Does anyone know of any mini stacking shelves to put these small components on (rather than spread around on your desk etc)?
Buy both Aiyima A07 and this Fosi amp.
Use the full range outs of the A07 to run into the Fosi and let that handle your highs/mid highs and let the A07 handle the low end.
Best of both worlds!! Assuming you use speakers that can be bi amped.
Maybe you should consider doing a brand centric video showcasing a manufacturers line, or at least several products from one source. What other good products does Fosi make?
that's a good idea. lots of these asian companies just have too many to cover. some are better than others. great idea.
Very good video, as always!. I have a yamaha receiver 9. 1 which can process 11 channels with an external amp (back surrounds or front speakers. Could I use this amp for that ?, thanks!
Crack it open... let's see the op amps.
Good job as always.
Howzit RANDY I'm new to the audio thing .In fact I always thought this hobby was for people with deep pockets until I found your channel. can you please recommend a Amp for my Sony sscs5 speakers.I really enjoy watching your channel. Aloha from Hawaii.
I just bought this amp for $47 on black friday.... I cannot even believe what I got. Sounds amazingly good pushing the Micca MB42X on my desktop. I am actually testing out some smaller Saiyin 3.5" 2ways on amazon that were $49 with a $10 couple ($39). The Saiyin combined with this cheap amp sound pretty dang good for $90 bucks. It certainly beats all of those crappy powered gaming sound speaker systems. In fact, the size and sound is so good, that I will probably move the Miccas to home theater duty. Free up some desk space.
Just want to respond about the TB10D. You did not oversell it, the little Fosi is everything you said it was. I went ahead and hooked it right into my main system and its driving my Wharfedale Linton's very easily and surprisingly has very ample power on tap for them, The WiiM Mini with a Cambridge Dacmagic Plus is the source. It is amazing how something so inexpensive can be so good.
Are you still using the TB10D on the Wharfedale Lintons? I’d love to hear your thoughts!!!! Thank you!
Is there a way to tell if one is getting the original version from possible left over stocks from Amazon's warehouse?
Is there a serial number range one should look out for?
I am really happy that Fozzie bear started this company in china, much success to him in china with this endeavour.
I just watched your video on the fosi amp and I think it might be perfect for me but I have a question. Can I connect this to a wireless system from my marantz 6015 avr and is 50 watts good enough for rear surround speakers?
🤔Maybe I’ll try pairing a TB10D w/
the Elac BS41’s ..
Edit: Thanks Randy. Always enjoy your evals..😉
How did it work out?
This, or the Ayima AO7? I’ve no great need for the tone controls, or for DIYing . Any meaningful difference in SQ? Which ships with the superior (stock) power supply?
Planning on upgrading my audio rig soon - as a casual who enjoys good audio and great sound design for movies and games, I want to hear the thoughts on using this as a stack with the Fosi DAC Q4
Planning on being a bit economical since I don't necessarily want to spend for a Magni/Modi stack even when I know I can afford it
I sure do miss the old rickety table and blue table cloth. How about a CAM throwback day video? 😀
Due to some confusion on my part this amp arrived in the mail. Ment to purchase a DAC to run my TV through my 1000 watt Rockville receiver. Needless to say still need to purchase the DAC Rockville going into the closet for now.
How do i distinguish that I'm getting the 2nd gen improved version of this TB10D?
I got one with some little Klipsch bookshelf speakers to replace my buzzing mess of a computer speaker setup. Works pretty well. I feel like the right channel sort of cuts out when it's at very low volume, but I'm not sure if it's my imagination. Otherwise good performance.
Sounds like a winner. How do like the sound of the Lepai LP-2020TI amp? I know it's only a $35 amp but with price in mind, what are your thoughts on them if you've tried them?
how do we know if we buy the old or the new version if they did not change the model number ? what op-amd inside ?
I just purchased the Fosi box x4 for headphone use between my rt85 and the Fives. I'm experiencing a noticeable hum even at moderate sound levels. I don't have such problems with the Box x2, but I need a headphone jack.. any suggestions on a fix?
I’ve never found a good 48v/10a power supply. Has any one used one with a class D amp that they like?
Thanks for the review
You bet
Hi Randy, I always enjoy your reviews. Off topic… I have an iPhone 13 and Ananda’s. What portable DAC would you use to get the best sound? Thanks in advance for your help! 😎
dragon fly cobalt if you can swing it. the dragon fly red is also good. there is a bunch of others out there too.
@@cheapaudioman Thank you Randy! Your opinions matter a lot to me. God bless YOU and all you love.
The maximum current draw through the lightning port on iPhones throttled compared to the current draw through USB C ports on other devices. Start with the $10 Apple dongle to see if that is acceptable to you. I have Android phones with USB C ports, the $50 Fiio JadeAudio KA1 drives my Sundara's very well. The Ananda's are slightly easier to drive, so they will draw less current and there is a lightning version of the KA1. The KA1 has a single chip. Due to the limitations of the lightning port I would get a dongle with a battery for dual DAC and balanced output, especially for driving headphones rather than IEMs. The $130 Fiio BTR5 drives my Sundara's very well, if I were in the market today I would buy the $200 BTR7 for the 4.4mm balanced port. Another option is the $300 Topping G5 portable DAC/AMP (and other devices in that style). I don't have experience with this product but it is already well reviewed and I have had several stand alone Topping DACs and amp that I would recommend without hesitation. $300 would be my limit for this class of gear. For anything more I would buy a DAP, which can function as an external DAC/amp for other sources in addition to having a built in player.
@@keithjohnson2863 Hi Keith. I really appreciate this well thought out and helpful reply. Funny that as of this morning I went ahead and ordered the Shanling M6 Ultra. I have been looking at DAPs for a while and this one seems to fit what I like. I have a set of Ananda's and Sennheiser 58x that I feel wlll get better sound than I have from my Qudilix 5K. I am relatively new to the search for sound that satisfies... My way of comparison is as a 40 year guitar player... the search for "tone" seems to never end!
Does this have any play when it come to home theater? Looking to add cheaper power to my marantz sr6013. At least 1 to power a 2nd set of atmos speakers in a 7.1.4 setup. Maybe more based on price
Can you put the Sparkos in it? I have to see what the max power is on the Sparkos... i looked around and the TI 3255 is not a 8 pin socket op amp...I guess sparkos are not applicable...
Hope I did a good choice to pick it up for 2 x 50w bass shakers (dayton bst-1) for simracing.
great info, older Sony receiver str-d1011 home receiver think this could be used to power 2 15" 7ohm 150w passive sub woofers if i used passive crossovers on the outputs ? im looking for a 2 channel sub amp but hard to find . right now my receiver cant power my old floor speakers which are 3 channel and the big 15" subs are in there , but drawing alot of power from my receiver causing the front panel to dim when cranked with heavy base sounds incredible but worried about the dimming on receiver . so i wanted to use this and take the subs off the the receivers amp . any help would be great , i read having 2 subs on 2 channels is better then mono .
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Is there a visual difference, or another way to tell the upgraded from the original version?
Fosi TB10D Geshelli j2 and Wiim mini running klipsch rb5ii. Sounds pretty good.
Hey Randy! Is there Fosi audio T3 in the pipe line for testing? Looks promising...
Can you compare Ayima T9 vs this? I mean if I just want to use my passive speakers instead of buying a Sonos can I use Ayima T9 instead?
Man, I had the opposite experience. I had a Topping power supply go south on me and I contacted Topping. I had the thing a while, so I just wanted to replace the powersupply - I didn't want to warranty it. I asked them how much it would cost, etc. They would not sell me a new power supply unless I gave them my receipt or product registration(I forget which one it was a year ago now). I told them I lost that thing a year back, and that I wanted to purchase a new power supply. They would not sell me one. We went back and forth several times, and it got more and more odd every time. At one point they accused me of not really needing a power supply and not actually owning the product. I just..I dunno what to say. I ended up selling it on without a power supply, and I won't ever buy a Topping product again. Just an odd experience.
that is weird. I've heard that they've been having some reliability issues with the PA5 and even the new LA50
I’ve heard about the issues with the pa5 as well. Sadly I heard about it after I already bought one. Mines is still going strong after two months and I love the way it sounds. Fingers crossed, hope it lasts a long time. Definitely a pricey little unit.