Smallville - Clark Becomes Superman

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  • Fan made version of Clark Kent becoming Superman on Smallville. Please let me know what you think and/or rate the video.

Komentáře • 444

  • @wrybreadspread
    @wrybreadspread Před 7 lety +217

    I'm conflicted. Is it unimaginatively a slavish imitation of the 1980s Christopher Reeve movie, almost identical in some ways? Yes. Was it enthralling at the end? Did my heart race at the end as he zoomed off to the strains of the John Williams score? Also yes.

    • @owenthomas9841
      @owenthomas9841 Před 4 lety +7

      1970s*

    • @joshhaddock6772
      @joshhaddock6772 Před 4 lety +2

      Owen Thomas shut the fuck up

    • @TheAutumnWind_RN4L
      @TheAutumnWind_RN4L Před 4 lety +1

      @@joshhaddock6772 lol.

    • @TheAutumnWind_RN4L
      @TheAutumnWind_RN4L Před 4 lety +8

      I call it an homage that succeeded in the way that Superman Returns failed.

    • @cherokee43v6
      @cherokee43v6 Před 4 lety +8

      Christopher Reeve was an integral part of Smallville at the time of his passing. The ending was clearly intended as a final homage to him by the showrunners, cast and crew, tying the storyline in to his Superman portrayal.

  • @h1ghalpha156
    @h1ghalpha156 Před 4 lety +138

    Any father can only hope that he is one day humbled by the feats of his son...

  • @protoclown4717
    @protoclown4717 Před 3 lety +41

    "All those powers... and I couldn't even save Chloe..."

  • @FINALLYOUTAFTER7
    @FINALLYOUTAFTER7 Před 4 lety +30

    It’s been years and it still gives me chills.

  • @mikeyates7931
    @mikeyates7931 Před 3 lety +10

    I love the way Terrance Stamp came Full circle : from Zod to Jor - El ! ! ! Brilliant ! ! !

  • @Bill23799
    @Bill23799 Před 6 lety +45

    Wow! I stopped watching Smallville after a few seasons. I may have to binge watch it from the start now.
    I love how they paid tribute to 1978 Richard Donner's " Superman " by using the score from that film.

    • @nicholasr6381
      @nicholasr6381 Před 4 lety

      Bill23799 it's the only music

    • @Amikeur
      @Amikeur Před 3 lety +3

      This is a fan made version, it is different in the show

    • @Howyaduing
      @Howyaduing Před 2 lety

      You should

  • @14DaveHunter
    @14DaveHunter Před 12 lety +130

    Perfect tribute to Christopher Reeve's movies. He felt SMALLVILE expanded young Clark's storyline, from the first movie. This does both Christopher Reeve & Marlon Brando's (RIP 2 Both) perfomances proud. Your splicing together Terrance Stamp's voiceovers, cancels out the coldness Jor-El's A.I. showed; in early seasons. Excellent in every way.

    • @melindaapresley6939
      @melindaapresley6939 Před 4 lety +2

      14DaveHunter when Christopher Reeve was asked to do some episodes of smallville
      He wasn’t sure until he read the script and watched it and completely understood the concept

  • @bryanmiller476
    @bryanmiller476 Před 5 lety +243

    They really should have just started a new Superman tv show starting off where smallville ended

    • @rowdeemunkee
      @rowdeemunkee Před 5 lety +5

      Maybe some day. Rather see that that another gritty reimagining. Unfortunately, seeing superman (or any hero really) in his prime is boring to me because hes pretty damn untouchable.

    • @robertcarrillo4075
      @robertcarrillo4075 Před 5 lety +11

      They made season 11 into a comic book, Batman appears in season 11 and so do the teen titans

    • @RhysClark97
      @RhysClark97 Před 5 lety +6

      @@rowdeemunkee being untouchable doesnt mean he cant learn lessons from others or have his ideals tested by people from different perspectives,

    • @theoneatyourdoor87
      @theoneatyourdoor87 Před 4 lety

      It would be cool if they used the same Actuator to play an aged superman.

    • @BarryJowers
      @BarryJowers Před 4 lety +3

      There is a new Superman show coming to the CW next year

  • @user-mz2cq5xi6l
    @user-mz2cq5xi6l Před 6 lety +32

    I just got goosebumps...
    As soon as Jor-El greeted
    Kal-El

    • @richardsenson5328
      @richardsenson5328 Před 5 lety

      Not really a goosebumps buddy..

    • @richardsenson5328
      @richardsenson5328 Před 5 lety

      Its the way jor el speaks in reminding what must done done accordingly.. And I knew it was something which reminds the true fact why jor el need us to be foretold of its advicement on certain things which leads to the kryptonian legacy and sole purpose to put into actions

    • @ranindaperera3481
      @ranindaperera3481 Před 5 lety +2

      I got goosebumps when that legendary music played at the end... Wow!! :D

    • @rowanparmiter7622
      @rowanparmiter7622 Před 5 lety +1

      After that scene people gave him a new nick name...
      Givem El

  • @lucassoares3349
    @lucassoares3349 Před 5 lety +24

    if you think about it, jor el gives truly great advices

  • @rockytheyorky
    @rockytheyorky Před 5 lety +6

    A REAL NICE RENDITION OF SUPERMAN TOM DID A GOOD JOB.

  • @Alstars2006
    @Alstars2006 Před 3 lety +3

    ("Sometimes the Greatest Sacrifice a person can make is to GIVE UP what Counts the Most in their lives") AMEN

  • @anythingaroundtheuniversev9960

    Tom Welling had missed the opportunity to continue as Superman because I think if I am not mistaken he declined to wear a cape. He should be one of the best candidates for Superman role.

    • @bryanmason13
      @bryanmason13 Před 4 lety +10

      He didn't want to be type casted. Nor did he want the so-called "Superman curse" that comes with the role.

    • @lindaandrews5908
      @lindaandrews5908 Před 4 lety +6

      he didn't want to wear the tights. and he stuck with his contract that he would not wear the tights. NO TIGHTS NO FLIGHTS but of course there were 7 tiimes at least where that rule was broken as Kal-El and not Clark.

    • @botwitaprice
      @botwitaprice Před 3 lety +7

      He gave 10 years if doing a TV show that produced the amount of shows that seem impossible to do now; it was time for 10 more years of reunion shows.

    • @jujumpe7374
      @jujumpe7374 Před 3 lety

      After 10 years you want to move on.

    • @anythingaroundtheuniversev9960
      @anythingaroundtheuniversev9960 Před 3 lety

      @@jujumpe7374 You are nonsense, that was my opinion for that time and doesn't mean that I insist. I don't need to move on because it was his choice and has no effect whatsoever to me.

  • @bradwilliams5421
    @bradwilliams5421 Před 4 lety +5

    Smallville was an awesome show. Looked forward to it every week, and for new seasons. Still cool to watch this in 2019

  • @dlop8405
    @dlop8405 Před 4 lety +3

    This was the best Superman series ever

  • @americanambazonian8907
    @americanambazonian8907 Před 4 lety +8

    "Seize your destiny."
    Chills at 6:50

  • @Locktwiste72
    @Locktwiste72 Před 3 lety +2

    General Zod (Terrence Stamp from Christopher Reeve's Superman) ironically plays Jor-El here.

  • @cyndifidler1772
    @cyndifidler1772 Před 6 lety +17

    Wow I think that was cool I sure wish Tom would have worn the suit. I am a Superman fan for many years. I think Tom is one of the best. Christopher and Henry are my very fav 💕

  • @jamesstair4292
    @jamesstair4292 Před 5 lety +29

    I seem to remember the finale a little differently. There was a battle in space and Clark WAS wearing the suit.

    • @Skyhawk-lz9ps
      @Skyhawk-lz9ps Před 4 lety

      CGI in most part except for the blue shirt with the S logo on it.

    • @dbmabe
      @dbmabe Před 3 lety +4

      The only "battle" was when he was thrown by Darkseid possessing Lionel's body. That's when Clark finally realizes his flight ability and flies through Lionelseid and destroys him. The only thing you see in space is Clark pushing Apokolips away from the Earth and then we see Tom Welling's head CGI'd to footage from Superman Returns where Superman is in space suspended above the Earth.

    • @Amikeur
      @Amikeur Před 3 lety

      That’s a fan made version, but honestly it is better than the 10 seconds battle against Darkseid

  • @mikefit3343
    @mikefit3343 Před 5 lety +41

    This is not bad editing I like how everything all fits in together especially when he takes off inside the fortress! The music was epic at that part👌

  • @geraldfer
    @geraldfer Před 5 lety +8

    That....THAT...was just beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I wish they would've kept Mr. Weller in the them off...Man Of Steel...he and Henry Cavill would have made it even more believable...thanks for this...I just teared up...👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @SmallvilleFann1983
    @SmallvilleFann1983 Před 2 lety +2

    I remember watching this new in 2011 I was so sad & emotional it was coming to an end & this was the last time!
    Nothing made me cry harder then the Supernatural ending though!

  • @nahmonilldan
    @nahmonilldan Před 7 lety +12

    This is just gold to watch

  • @ELRADONE
    @ELRADONE Před 7 lety +14

    still gives me chillz!!!

  • @terrywilliams759
    @terrywilliams759 Před 6 lety +9

    Such a fantastic memory thanks for sharing this.

  • @gohanbeatz9798
    @gohanbeatz9798 Před 4 lety +2

    6:49. So much nostalgia runs through my head after I saw this scene.

  • @HEAVYMETALmovie1981
    @HEAVYMETALmovie1981 Před 2 lety

    Had to come back to see this 3 years later. Just love this 😎

  • @Mr.Lock_hart
    @Mr.Lock_hart Před 11 lety +13

    Life well spent watching this show.

  • @ruthanndoyle3941
    @ruthanndoyle3941 Před 4 lety +3

    This gave me goose bumps.

  • @user-mz2cq5xi6l
    @user-mz2cq5xi6l Před 6 lety +10

    That was AWSOME.
    Thank you for uploading this video..
    I'm about to watch it again..

  • @LeeKeels
    @LeeKeels Před 6 lety +61

    Cut out the best part....Jonathan handing him the costume.

  • @tk4609
    @tk4609 Před 6 lety +2

    Because of this i will get the quotes of this superman

  • @noone1840
    @noone1840 Před 10 měsíci +2

    still the last time we had a legit superman and paid homage to Reeve

  • @jeremybryant9128
    @jeremybryant9128 Před 6 lety +3

    Smallville.Awesome. don't had 5 season yet.

  • @labra6860
    @labra6860 Před 4 lety

    I enjoyed myself during the confinement I watched the whole series of Smallville that I had bought before !
    I became a fan I love this series and I love Clark Kent💗Tom Welling is a bomb in this series💣💥💥💥💥💥💥

  • @killingfields1424
    @killingfields1424 Před rokem +1

    The only Superman chaeacter who refuses to wear the cape

  • @user-mz2cq5xi6l
    @user-mz2cq5xi6l Před 6 lety +27

    I used to love that Red jacket

  • @grapelund
    @grapelund Před 3 lety +2

    6:44 till the end, the amount of chills are unexplainable, really.

  • @ulysses1981
    @ulysses1981 Před 4 lety +1

    I feckin love this it makes the whiskers on my cheeks stand on end 😁

  • @TheBlueseahunter
    @TheBlueseahunter Před 2 lety

    First time seeing this, got chills from the Superman score.

  • @dominicsavarese377
    @dominicsavarese377 Před 4 lety +1

    I was at the reunion of smallville at megacon it was amazing

  • @TheNotoriousCheeto
    @TheNotoriousCheeto Před 7 lety +190

    Clark Kent is Kal-El
    Clark knelt down before taking off
    Jor-El is throughout the Fortress
    Jor-El is voiced by Terence Stamp
    Stamp played General Zod
    Ergo,
    We just saw Kal-El kneel before Zod.

  • @agencyheadquartersdc4568
    @agencyheadquartersdc4568 Před 8 lety +10

    jorel was like damn im going to kick he's ass for smashing my crystals

    • @richardsenson5630
      @richardsenson5630 Před 8 lety +1

      the crystal were not logically smashed up badly. it was only to build a fortress and an extion territory of krypton only. and father jor-el wants it place where the green torch should must be re-assemble with the others so that me and superman should the green torch be returned back.

  • @coreynance3874
    @coreynance3874 Před 3 lety

    i didn't realize it til i watched the video how "epic" and awesome the music is in all these fortress scenes and the scenes themselves are very good too.

  • @gustavelaughnowcrylater5309

    I’m so late. I’m just getting to where he lost his memory. Just so happen. This part was recommended to me. I’m so excited to get here.

  • @johncribbsiv4934
    @johncribbsiv4934 Před 7 lety +24

    Wow how cool to put both John Williams and John Ottman music for this video I'm a huge fanatic fan of Superman ever since I can remember from years ago in smallville there's 2 general Zod's Terence Stamp (voice of Jor-El) and Daniel James Callum Blue what a nice touch to smallville I'm sure that Tom Welling is proud of both of them I know I am since Terence Stamp did this 12 years back in season 05 I like in episode 01-arrival (2005,2006) and season 07 episode 18-apocalypse (2007,2008) they show planet krypton and red sun rao just like in Superman 1-The Movie (1978) and explosion of them both in that episode and the movie
    peace, love, respect, and God bless my friends.

  • @ISAMARTIALARTSFlorence
    @ISAMARTIALARTSFlorence Před 5 lety +1

    Very excellent video. I've been a Superman fan since the 50s.

  • @ghwinokur
    @ghwinokur Před 6 lety +15

    It was a long 10 seasons for 10 seconds with the suit! Well done, great finish.

  • @troubledspirit3328
    @troubledspirit3328 Před 2 lety

    I have the boxed CD set and no DVD player.. the irony. Will binge watch this again soon

    • @Groza_Dallocort
      @Groza_Dallocort Před 2 lety +1

      You dont have a PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 or older computer collecting dust somewhere otherwise just buy an external DVD drive somewhere
      Even an old PS2 can read DVD

    • @troubledspirit3328
      @troubledspirit3328 Před 2 lety

      @@Groza_Dallocort yes, I thought of that after I posted this. It's been so long since I've watched an actual DVD

    • @Groza_Dallocort
      @Groza_Dallocort Před 2 lety

      @@troubledspirit3328 Yeah same here, we are spoiled in todays world with Netflix, Steam and other stuff I mean you rarely put a game into a dvd drive anymore as with DVD

  • @miwittwer
    @miwittwer Před 4 lety +5

    First I loved this series. Then I hated it because they were avoiding the obvious over and over again. But you managed to give me some goosbumps .. :)

  • @thunderbirdizations
    @thunderbirdizations Před 7 lety +131

    So... I just finished watching 10 seasons, all for this one scene 😓😐

    • @hennessyapplejuice8331
      @hennessyapplejuice8331 Před 6 lety +5

      Should've skipped over the seasons Lex wasn't there and continued on season 8 and 9 then watched the last episode of season 10 bcuz the last season sucked too

    • @cyclopstb
      @cyclopstb Před 6 lety +1

      Jay Sea The story continues in season 11 comic book.

    • @mikefuston4494
      @mikefuston4494 Před 5 lety +4

      and we got chipped by not having atleast 5 seconds of him in the suit

    • @margaretseddon4653
      @margaretseddon4653 Před 5 lety +3

      Gavin says: I watched all ten seasons and found all kinds of easter eggs! Justice league easter eggs, the flash easter eggs and even Batman easter eggs and finished off with legion of super heroes!!!!

    • @warrynfullagar745
      @warrynfullagar745 Před 5 lety +1

      Prince Adam I personally like season 10.

  • @gmirwin
    @gmirwin Před 4 lety +3

    1:08 John Williams’ Planet Krypton leitmotif.

  • @BarryJowers
    @BarryJowers Před 4 lety +2

    Don't know how I haven't seen this until now but awesome job

  • @Camila-wv9cd
    @Camila-wv9cd Před 3 lety

    Now finally i can say i've watched all Smallville seasons! And now i'm rewatching seasons from 1 to 6 because they are the best! Season 9 and 10 suck! Althought i kinda cried when he became Superman in the 10th

  • @terrywilliams759
    @terrywilliams759 Před 4 lety +2

    The best part of the whole show I almost cried when I saw this part I thought of Christopher Reeve

  • @cinemaipswich4636
    @cinemaipswich4636 Před 2 lety

    Certainly the most beautiful young man to ever enter the hall of the gods.

  • @maokitcharao3857
    @maokitcharao3857 Před 5 lety +1

    its' so wonderful movie', very classic..:D

  • @kimhorton6109
    @kimhorton6109 Před 3 lety +2

    I’ve been binging this on Hulu for a while. Still killer show with an outstanding cast. It’s funny how well Welling was received here when almost nothing else has worked out for him. I’d really like to see something wlse
    Burden of Proof was a pretty lame cop procedural show for Kristin but she was pretty rad in her Hong Kong martial arts flick and everyone loved her in Smallville.

  • @christopheroliver739
    @christopheroliver739 Před 6 lety +6

    This looks very much like the original set from the original movie. This is so awesome!

  • @wanderleyramos
    @wanderleyramos Před 2 lety +1

    Would you mind activating the subtitles in Portuguese for us Brazilians to watch the videos and understand the dialogues? Thank you for choosing this scene to share with your subscribers!

  • @collectiblecardsgamescusto9827

    This was done well. I was never happy with how they ended smallville

  • @achosenone44
    @achosenone44 Před 2 lety +1

    my beautiful Heavenly Father Almighty The Most High put a firmament dome over us!!! )

  • @sameeralblushi7600
    @sameeralblushi7600 Před 5 lety +7

    This old series is far better than the new Superman movie

  • @JoelFoustGaming
    @JoelFoustGaming Před 5 lety +33

    That series finale pissed me off so much. The whole first hour was about the wedding that never happened, and they couldn't even show him in the superman suit.

    • @f00dify
      @f00dify Před 5 lety +2

      Apparently, Tom Welling agreed to play the role of Clark Kent only if he never had to put on the suit which is probably why you never actually saw him wearing it.

    • @brettsalazar1886
      @brettsalazar1886 Před 5 lety

      f00dify he did an interview and in his contract it said no tights no flights so that’s why he was never in the suit or flying

    • @matthewrice1226
      @matthewrice1226 Před 5 lety

      They did show him in the suit. At the end. Check it out

    • @brettsalazar1886
      @brettsalazar1886 Před 5 lety

      Matthew Rice this isn’t the end of the series there’s still about 5-10 that was left out. Probably due to copyright

    • @TheBuddy303
      @TheBuddy303 Před 5 lety

      Brett Salazar weird that they would agree to get an actor that won’t do a specific thing vital to the story

  • @user-mz2cq5xi6l
    @user-mz2cq5xi6l Před 6 lety +8

    This Is My Favorite SuperMan Video, Thank You So Very Much For Uploading

  • @harbar3000
    @harbar3000 Před 3 lety +1

    7:30 From this moment on, he was never able to fly out of a building without breaking a window.

  • @UltraKryptonian
    @UltraKryptonian Před 5 lety +22

    Jor-El should have ended the pep talk with... “now, KNEEL before Zod!”

  • @joeymiddleton890
    @joeymiddleton890 Před 6 lety +11

    This is how it should of ended in Season 4 when the Fortress was built!

  • @paullopez6620
    @paullopez6620 Před 6 lety +1

    Always loved they kinda tied in with the movie. They are still doing so with with today's series. Appreciating those who came before.

  • @zlowenst
    @zlowenst Před 5 lety +7

    Nicely done. It’s cool how you made it just like Superman the movie. The music editing was nicely done too, a cool mix of Superman returns score and the original.

  • @jameshodge1517
    @jameshodge1517 Před 2 lety +1

    Of Course!!!

  • @renej.cortez892
    @renej.cortez892 Před 4 lety

    Nice to see my people again !

  • @insertoyouroemail
    @insertoyouroemail Před 2 lety

    I'm impressed they stayed true to the shows inheritance.

  • @BarryH1701
    @BarryH1701 Před 3 lety

    This was perhaps the best ending of any television series I can think of. It tied this series to the Christopher Reeve movies with the music and even the look of the Fortress of Solitude. The John Williams Superman theme is perhaps the greatest of all superhero themes in my opinion.

    • @bewmdogg
      @bewmdogg Před 2 lety

      this was fan made though...

  • @LoveShaysloco
    @LoveShaysloco Před 5 lety +3

    nice vid to me you highlighted the important badies to the end when he learned to fly to smack omega/the darkness

  • @briancurry6602
    @briancurry6602 Před 4 lety

    i love his dad

  • @Rickm2003
    @Rickm2003 Před 6 lety +6

    Awesome!!!!!!!!!! Excellent job with the music!!!!

  • @charleswhittaker6970
    @charleswhittaker6970 Před 6 lety +1

    bout damn time

  • @technowey
    @technowey Před 2 lety

    I remember when my Dad created a giant simulation of his world and told me he was proud of me! ;)

  • @Daikon_Micucci
    @Daikon_Micucci Před 4 lety +1

    Now imagine if Clark Kent had received the Green Ring. His solar-to-courage energy conversion trick would keep Oa's battery running for centuries.

  • @michellacasse9250
    @michellacasse9250 Před 4 lety

    Love this Series !

  • @dekulevi936
    @dekulevi936 Před 5 lety +1

    Should add Christopher Reeve in the last episode, I dont care if its CGI or a clip of his previous films or episode, that would make it spectacular.

  • @jcortega5134
    @jcortega5134 Před 2 lety +1

    Dam still gives me the chill's, totally loved SM !!! But confused why TW was not a part of nxt chapter ??

  • @bobmaccord5100
    @bobmaccord5100 Před 2 lety

    I love it.

  • @georgescoville4962
    @georgescoville4962 Před 6 lety +13

    If there are going to be a reboot of smallville I'll be waiting

    • @margaretseddon4653
      @margaretseddon4653 Před 5 lety

      Gavin says: we need a Green Lantern if they do a Smallville reboot!!!

  • @valadchitze8973
    @valadchitze8973 Před 6 lety +2

    "#Beautifully motiv8ted lesson!"

  • @marcomoreno5200
    @marcomoreno5200 Před 3 lety +1

    I like your videos

    • @RedKSupes2
      @RedKSupes2  Před 3 lety

      Appreciate that, thanks for checking them out!

  • @Fultonfalcons86
    @Fultonfalcons86 Před 3 lety

    The greatest movie theme in history

  • @Eyes-of-Horus
    @Eyes-of-Horus Před 3 lety

    I liked how Clark, his mother and father decided on the Superman costume in "Lois and Clark." That was funny.

  • @michaellocklear6396
    @michaellocklear6396 Před 2 lety

    To tell the truth I don't remember seeing this and I was a Smallville freak back in the day. I remember Chloe at the end seem like she was telling a story & he opened his Jacket there was a big S under it then it ended, that's all I remembered.

  • @davids9520
    @davids9520 Před 6 lety +9

    In some future telling of the man of steel story, Kal-El is going to decide to locate the Fortress of Solitude in some place like Hawaii or Tahiti. Even with the volcanoes, the weather is better than the cold north.

    • @davids9520
      @davids9520 Před 6 lety +1

      Tom Welling was a good Superman.

    • @botwitaprice
      @botwitaprice Před 5 lety

      He gets better bandwith up there; doesn't share it with anyone.

    • @mx.n.3682
      @mx.n.3682 Před 5 lety

      he doesn't feel the cold and no one would be going that far up the Arctic.

    • @markcadieux3445
      @markcadieux3445 Před 3 lety

      Superman doesn't feel the cold because of his invulnerably.

  • @martinwoodworking
    @martinwoodworking Před 2 lety

    I was so disappointed that we never saw him in the suit, just blurred pictures

  • @consolacion224
    @consolacion224 Před 2 lety +1

    Plss I want to watch firs movies Smallvilke to be a SUPER MAN

  • @lunaplateada911
    @lunaplateada911 Před 3 lety

    !!!WoooW!!!

  • @Aeluron
    @Aeluron Před 2 lety

    Still the best(Minus the arrowverse appearence)

  • @stephenison5703
    @stephenison5703 Před 2 lety +1

    The one reason Tom willing did not want to put on the suit was because it didn't have a safety cup because it's a nut hugger 😵

  • @osvaldofranco9036
    @osvaldofranco9036 Před 6 lety +3

    that was great!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🤘🏽🖖🏽

  • @dwcomedyshorts151
    @dwcomedyshorts151 Před 3 lety

    Anyone else notice around 2:00 Kal’s signature hair folical group preparing themselves?? 🤗

  • @AlpineStudiosInc
    @AlpineStudiosInc Před 4 lety +1

    All these years and he didn't even get to be superman he would of been great

  • @AlexanderWright1
    @AlexanderWright1 Před 2 lety

    ... The cold never bothered me anyway!