WE GOT STALKED AT AN ANIME CONVENTION... | COAF 2024 Cosplay Vlog
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Thank you for all the comments and support, your experiences (while sad and shouldn’t have happened) make us feel a lot less alone! It took bravery to post this. I’m also really glad this helped some of you to see how this can go down. Let’s keep our spaces safe together!
-Stan
hope you guys are okay and pls stay safe, very sorry for yall what happened 🫶🏻🙏🏻
U guys need a big hug ❤❤❤
I hope you guys will have a better experience at the next con. Sending lots of love and hugs 🫂♥️💕❤️💖
I love tue cosplay of Roxanne and Chica I hope you both are OK from that experience
As someone from Colorado (moved here when I was 13.) I would like to apologize on behalf of the entire state. I am so sorry this happened to you. Nothing excused that guys behavior and I know Colorado as a state has a huge problem with people acting like this. I hope it will get better but, with Colorado being a state of high highs and ignored and avoided lows I doubt that. Again, so so sorry. You both looked amazing in you cosplays. And, you have a new subscriber as your channel looks interesting. 💖
Oof, yeah the con staff dropped the ball on that one. Developmentally delayed doesn’t mean “harmless.” Mature enough to know what OF is, mature enough to learn consent. I’m so sorry that you were expected to essentially soothe YOUR harasser. I’m sure he was mostly mad because he got caught.
This is so well worded. Thank you for the thoughtful comment!
I second this. I was in college with an autistic guy who s*xually harassed me and female friends. We showed him kindness once because he seemed to be isolating himself from the class, and he took this as permission to, amongst many things:
-Show us female domination p*rn with "twinks" that was actually sh*tacon h*ntai.
-Talk to us in detail about his s*xuality and s*x life.
-Made weapons in shop class ((we were in fine arts for context and did woodcarving as part of the curriculum)) and make "jokes" about pulling his SHARPENED WOODEN BLADES on us from behind while we were working machinery
-Related to the above, pulled that on me and startled me so hard that the piece I was sanding on an INDUSTRIAL BELT SANDER that it slipped from my hand and I almost completely sanded off one of my nail on it
-ON TOP OF THAT while the teacher started to treat my injury because I was in shock, he kept hovering around me saying how "the sight and smell of blood was awakening his vampiric insticts" and the teacher had to not so kindly tell him to fuck off and stop pulling that shit
I could list other things about him, but this paints the picture pretty well. When we tried to complain about his behaviour to the school staff outside of our teachers they told us "well he's autistic, he doesn't mean any harm". Like, as someone who is also on the spectrum I understand that some people struggle more than others to get some social clues but seeing you experience and thinking about mine... There's a fucking limit.
The worst part is that he's a semi-successful Jack Sparrow cosplayer in the Montreal are where we live and I get to see him at our local con. It's made my anxiety spike so bad at times that I had to stop going to it because I'm actually afraid that he'd recognize me. It's not like he's forgotten about me either, because when a friend mention me to him a few years back while talking cosplayers with him he went "Oh yeah, the fat chick" which is like... yikes my dude. Yes I'm a plus sized gal but geez, nice to know that's all you remember from me after two years of toleranting your antics before I dropped out. ((To unrelated reasons, but he certainly didn't help those))
Like I don’t understand from what does this dude get a meltdown?
@@janfkarel92 He's having a Meltdown because he's not getting what he wants. He ask the Roxy cosplayer if she had a onlyfans, and kept moving his camera towards her boob window
He is sexually attracted to the cosplayer more than the Chica one given he seems to go after her more for pics base on the video. OnlyFan is often used for NSFW content, an how he moves his camera. He most likely wanted something from the poor Roxy Cosplayer in a gross way
@@lilmissmilesyt9363and people wonder why I have haphaphobia
Cause I’m scared people will try touch me inappropriately
I’m ND/autistic and I HATE that some ND males will use their ND/autism as an excuse to act creepy and push boundaries. Don’t be soft with them:
1. It’s not at all inherent/unhelpable to autism/neurodiversity to be a creep (hate that they tarnish our reputation like that)
2. They either know what they’re doing and deserve calling out, or calling them out will be a concrete way for them to learn.
So many of us autistics work so hard to learn cues and be extra considerate of people’s boundaries, these guys DISGUST me. No kid gloves for these creeps.
Exactly! So much more concisely put than how I tried to say it, kudos! :)
yup! totally agree! there was this autistic guy in my high school that was obsessed with one of my friends, borderline stalkerish; to a point where it made her uncomfortable. the TEACHERS did jack shit
Hope it's not a bother to ask, but what's ND? Sorry, I'm not well-versed in this sort of subject. I tried looking it up and it told me "North Dakota", which I'm nearly certain isn't relevant to this topic.
@@izarian42 It's the short term for Neurodivergent !
@@lapandablasee Oh, okay! Hey, thanks a lot for helping me out! I appreciate it!
Active security guard here and want you to know this actually helped me. I pride myself on having preplan for if X scenario happens do Y. But never had a plan for stalkers. Talked to my team and we now have a plan in ink to keep our guest safer.
Thank you and your team for making an effort to help others. We need more of this in the world
I would love to hear an advice on how to deal with stalkers at cons
What con do you work at?
You're an absolute saint. Love your work ❤
Bless you!
i can't believe staff pulled a "it's going to keep happening" card on you because of a (barely tbh) skimpy cosplay, I swear I would deadpan ask "are you saying you LET this happen often???" because that is such a bizarre thing for a staff member to say in that situation
Honestly that’s excellent response to a security guard like that. “So are you telling me that youre going to let this keep happening? You have the power to stop it by kicking him out or making him face repercussions, so are you admitting that you’re not gonna do your job? If that’s the case, then I think a report about this incident might be in order.”
Not defending the security, I'm a security guard and I use something good called common sense amd my professional discretion but the reason the security is most likely not do anything is because they simply because they are unable to do something. We have strict post orders and If you mess up you could be fired, sued by the client and even arrest. We have less power than you think especially unarmed guards and everything I said is double for events because it's most likely just a short gig, that means less clear instructions and alot of inexperienced guards that dont have a permanent site of their own. @Ghost-Song7714
I'll give you an example. One of my colleagues saw a student of ours ask her ex-boyfriend to leave her car so she could go home. My co-worker who saw it tried to reason with the guy, and when that didn't work he grabbed the man and pulled him out. He was later told we are just allowed to use neutral force, not excessive. He was fired and almost got sued. Our main objective is to conflict resolutions and reporting to the police. Some states have better protections for guards but in most states we have even less power to do anything than the average pedestrian because we have to act in the companies best interest because what we do also holds the company liable.
So what do they want him to do? They wanted him to show presence, ask open ended questions, write an incident report and call the police if need be or requested. We are glorified hall moniters and building babysitters, not police officers. The best a non-armed guard can do is probably write a ticket.
@@dannyg.4421 while that may be true for many cases, they certainly could’ve done more in this situation. Even if they had to give him a form warning not to do it again so that the creep can understand it’s inappropriate behavior, since mr creep kept firmly claiming that his autism limits his ability to read the room or whatever (which is bullshit cuz I myself and many other autistic individuals know better at this day and age not to engage in that kind of behavior)
@@dannyg.4421 hold on, when did I say they should’ve used force??? I said they should’ve given him a strict, verbal warning to let him understand the severity of his actions, not push him around like some cop in a bad mood.
I got stalked once and walked straight to the security. I stayed in areas only security would be and even asked if I could buy pepper spray (got denied). Eventually I found some people dressed as Survey Corps members and asked if I could hang out with them. One guy picked up the cues right away and even pretended to be my boyfriend. I haven't been back to a con since.
That guy is so sweet. I hope one day cons can be more safe...
That guy was so nice pretending to be your boyfriend to help you out. On God, I hope that conventions can get safer one day.
I'm so sorry the joy of going to conventions was taken from you 🫂 You did not deserve that at all, I'm so sorry it happened. I hope that you can heal from that and that if you decide to attend a con again that is is full of only happiness and fun memories for you 🫂💜
This is why I don’t go to cons by myself, I always go with my dad cus he would knock someone out if they tried any shit with me (also he helps me with my cosplays and he enjoys people’s reactions to seeing them). But I don’t wanna imagine what being stalked at one is like.
Kudos to that one big sweetie that played pretend for you to help out.
The audacity the stalker has is crazy….also who starts a conversation with that 😭
Right like, keep it to yourself bro i don't wanna hear it
@@Ruby...X exactly!!
Fr tho, if he just asked directly or in a more smooth way like "do you have any socials?" It would've been a bit less weird but
That guy was very weird..
No sane human starts off a conversation by basically asking if you have an onlyfans, that is just not the sign of a stable human being
OF assumption like that might be an insane way to start a convo but the numbers back it up. 3% of every woman you know aged 18-40 is on OF. Tristan is a 1% er or less so it's sadly going to be assumed she has an OF because of every 100 women 3 of them are on OF and Tristan is more attractive than 99-100 of them on average, it's just math and the numbers don't lie.
The fact the guards are taking the side of the stalker is WILD.
Police do similar. It’s sad. They don’t do anything until the stalker has already done something violent.
@@haroldharold9042 correct, because what he is doing is not illegal. wanting cops to get "involved" with non illegal things is a slippery slope. you also should not be advocating for people's rights to be stepped on, regardless of your comfort level.
@@xhelan131 WDYM ???? STALKING *IS* ILLEGAL. Plus not respecting someone's boundaries IS stepping on someone's rights and wrongfully so. We can all have opinions and debate on it, but making someone uncomfortable and not respecting them is NOT okay no matter what. How would that make you feel to be followed by someone all around a store ? Its not okay nor normal. Stop advocating and normalizing this type of behavior.
@@xhelan131 His right to sexually harass people?
@@echochou3977 Ikr, dude just told on himself hard if he thinks this is not textbook harassment.
Edit: Yep, I was right, dude completely outed himself.
“He seems like he could be developmentally delayed” was the excuse used by everyone I talked to about a fellow uni student who SA’d me. Only mildly, but SA is SA. I tried to say that “if he doesn’t understand when someone is saying “STOP touching and kissing me like that, I don’t like it and you’re making me uncomfortable”” whilst he is being PUSHED AWAY then he is DANGEROUS and he needs to be supervised 24/7. I am also neurodivergent, yet I know when someone says “stop” “please leave me alone” “you’re making me uncomfortable” means exactly that. STOP. I could not have been clearer that I wanted him to stop. He was wilfully ignoring me, and still had the nerve to message me a couple hours after.
He faced no consequences for his actions because I was too scared to have a one-on-one mediated talk with him, and I was dissuaded from making a formal uni complaint that would involve the police, because I was told that would be “very harsh for him”. He remained in uni. He remained in the uni’s anime club even after I told the club leader. The uni provided me no alternative. They wouldn’t even have a member of staff talk to him about how wildly inappropriate and traumatising his actions were.
This is sad, I’m sorry. The guy who harassed me in college (touched my private parts several times) wasn’t ND but he also got no consequences, people were ‘too uncomfortable to bring it up’ and theyd rather not talk about it. I was already ashamed but adult’s and classmates’ reactions made it even worse.
So people going to uni are not allowed to go to the police themselves and report it? Ohhh wow, what a weird country you live in. Where I live even children can go and report someone.
Oh my god, that is absolutely HORRIFIC. I'm so incredibly sorry this happened to you. It's something that should never happen to anyone, ever. Being developmentally delayed &/or on the autism spectrum is no excuse whatsoever for straight-up MOLESTING a person. There's no excuse for that behavior, PERIOD. End of story.
I agree with you completely -- if someone genuinely can't understand very clearly-stated boundaries, then that person has absolutely no business being out in public around other people unsupervised. It's so infuriating that your uni refused to take any action after he sexually assaulted you, simply because he was neurodivergent & the experience would be "harsh" for him. So fucking what?!! Who cares if it's harsh for him?! HE ASSAULTED YOU!!! How dare they downplay the seriousness of that just because the dude who did it is on the spectrum?!! He needs to learn that his actions have very real & serious consequences, or else he's just going to continue doing this to women his entire life. I would have filed the police report anyway.
I’ve also been stalked at a con. I became a “con mom” to kids who were being harassed by GROWN MEN. I do not appreciate that people think they can just DO THAT. Ppl like that guy need to be treated like they should, immediately expelled from a convention and blacklisted.
you’re a great person helping out kiddos with creeps!
We love a con mom
lolicons thinking they can thirst over kids because "they're fictional kids anyways"
Good person for looking out for our little ones thankyou
Con moms unite. Been doing this for about ten years now. My creep meter has gotten really good. I have to intervene at least once every convention. It sucks, but the more it's talked about the better the awareness is!
It's unfortunately not the first time there's a stalker incident at COAF... I hope the staff improves on this situation
I feel like with the layout it’s really easy to be followed and not be able to get rid of the person. Combined with the staff’s bizarre response I’m not surprised
@@SquareOneCosplay you're not wrong.... I was stalked last year at COAF last year, so I got scared thinking it was the same person for you two. I was followed and he took pics of me all 3 days. The only thing that kept me safe was creating a safe word around friends In case anything happens. I'm glad you guys are ok tho!
@@SquareOneCosplayobviously they should be trained in that but honestly i feel like this is on a personal level. who tf would think to suggest that the victim and the stalker should go and interact again? wtf did he tell them ??
@@SquareOneCosplayhey I have a question are you going to sunnycon? And if yes who? I would really like to meet you in person I will be in a sailor Jupiter cosplay
Same here. Cons need to start seriously cracking down on this type of behavior & making it abundantly clear that it will NOT be tolerated.
I love the dismissive "wooooow" and "thats crazy" when he talks to you, you can literally hear how much you don't want to talk to him but he doesn't stop ;.;
Also side note both of your cosplays are phenomenal!
If a stalker is going to use slight social cues to hint at asking for of links, I'd use the same nd card to be overly direct. "Why are you talking about this to me? What are you asking me for? Why are you following us around?"
If autism is an excuse to be creepy, then I can use mine as an excuse to be overly direct and come off as "rude."
I'm sorry you had to deal with this. It's such a fine line to navigate and scary to deal with people CLEARLY stepping over boundaries.
I'm 25 and I've been going to Cons for 13 years now. If I could tell younger me anything, it would be the advice you gave at the end; "Do not be polite to men that creep you out".
Same goes for guys stalking guys trust me- a lot less common but just as creepy
Definitely good advice for BOTH sides of that coin. The amount of times my crotch has been grabbed by drunk woman is fuckin wild. Men aren’t the only creeps out there.
@@DransPokeCorner Well nobody should be stalking anyone no matter what the gender of the stalker and the victim.
@@Cacowninja obviously.
Hi!! I'm the Maomao with the stickers at 06:26!! It was so nice meeting you!! Thank you both for being so sweet and also for including me in the vlog, it's such an honor!!
I am also so so sorry that this happened to you and I'm glad you guys ended up okay, but that's still so scary!! Please stay safe!!
Omg you seemed so friendly and your cosplay was so cute!!!
@@peckneckanimations Aww!! That’s so sweet of you!! Thank you so so much! :)
That was you?! AHHH, that’s so cute! I LOVE your cosplay :D
That was soo cute and nice of you to hand out stickers to people :')💗 You're so sweet!!
@@MelodiiStarlian THANK YOU SO SO MUCH!!!
"Do not be polite to men that creep you out" goes insanely hard and is so real.
I didn't even know who you was until twenty minutes ago but you just got another follow.
The “just let him apologize” trick is nauseating. So many toxic people can’t handle the thought that someone thinks badly of them, so they inflict themselves on the person even more until they get reassurance that they’re not a bad person. It’s an aspect of toxic personalities that most people aren’t aware of, so inexperienced people cave easily and pressure the toxic person’s victims to “let them apologize.”
It’s appalling that the con staff didn’t have any training in dealing with stalkers. Science fiction and fantasy cons went through a reckoning over a decade ago, and now most cons have zero-tolerance guidelines for harassment, including banning problem people. Anime and comic cons are an order of magnitude bigger, with younger fans-whyyyy haven’t they developed the basic protections that us old farts take for granted?
I’m so sorry that happened to you. And I hope this spurs the con to develop an anti-harassment policy and train their staff. Because I guarantee you, you’re not the only person who was harassed there.
I HAD SUCH A JUMPSCSRE WITH THE SANS COSPLAY LMFAO
REAL
{"Ey kiddos, it's ya boi, Sans Undertale."}
I was half expecting them to say :"What's clack a lacking my fellow kids, its ya boy sans!!!"
Me too 😂
SAME took me way back
I’m autistic and I’ve always felt like I was being ableist when I was uncomfortable with a neurodivergent persons actions. I felt icky, like I wasn’t being fair to them. That maybe they don’t understand that acting like that is weird, or maybe they are so happy that’s just what their body does. But this video helped me realize I do genuinely need to stand up for myself more.
I’m a freshman in Highschool, and there is a Senior at my school who stalks me and my freshman friends. He is very neurodivergent and has extreme anger issues (ones that trigger my PTSD from someone else I grew up around who quite literally acts THE EXACT SAME.) this Senior, openly talks about his f3t1sh3s to quite literally EVERYONE and he’s even gotten electronics taken away from him because his parents are worried about him. He has a younger brother that goes to our school (also a freshman) who explained this to us and apologized for his behavior. I always felt bad about being uncomfortable around the Senior, he was nice and he enjoyed the same things as me but he felt icky. Over the year we have learned a few things about him, he actively refuses to respect boundaries (he talked about triggering topics CONSTANTLY around my friend who physically yelled at him to stop, but he never did), he follows me around everyday (thankfully I don’t see him much because we aren’t in the same classes this semester), and finally, HE FOLLOWED A GIRL HOME FROM SCHOOL A FEW YEARS BACK. The cool seniors I hang out with make it CLEAR to NEVER go around him and they protect me.
Sorry for the ramble, but all of this is to say it doesn’t matter if someone is autistic or not. Autistic people can struggle with social cues, but autistic people also need to LEARN social cues in order to have a healthy, safe, and fun time around others.
100% why I really hammered the lies he told down hard. We have a hard time knowing what’s going on in the other person’s head, and give them a pass, but they DO know what they’re doing. It’s so incredibly important to see it spelt out clearly.
@@SquareOneCosplay exactly! And thank you so much for doing that because it really reassures me with my situation. I had multiple discussions with the Senior, about how he scares me and makes me uncomfortable, so I know for a fact he knows what he’s doing. But he hasn’t really *stopped* only “slowed down” this video really helps me remember that I’m not in the wrong for being uncomfy. So I thank you for that :)
Yeah like i never want to be extra rude on purpose and i try to ignore if someone is just cringy or annoying but i met some people that were genuinely bothering and it seems like they are unable to realize that and i think that adressing the issue could be helpful to make them more aware. I do think that neurodivergent people should be looked after and have space for themselves so they dont have to mask but it shouldnt be an excuse to be annoying and you know what type of annoy8ng im talking abt. Like you said talking about fetishes, weapons or watching concerning stuff in first seat in class that all other classmates can see... its like you should be taught that this concerns others.
I relate, I'm autistic too and I think all autistic people deserve respect and kindness but it is important to say what bothers you and for others to try and be respectful. I am very emphatic and kind of sensible to confrontation tho so i kind of hold my breath when I point out the things that bother me 😅
@@Acorn905 same! I do wish people would point out things that are making them uncomfy and stuff tho, so I can try to do better!
I was Batman at COAF. I saw him following you guys like once but I had no idea it was to this degree. I’m so sorry you guys had to deal with that.
The fact that they took autism as an excuse to justify the stalk is definitely a very vomitive move. Stalkers are no joke, specially in coventions. If that stalker secretly thought cosplay = consent, then he has a problem way huger than what it already just happened.
This is exactly why women and feminine leaning people choose the bear. I’m autistic and I know that following someone around like that is creepy and rude. Especially asking for an OF and constantly looking at someone’s chest? When I met y’all at uncanny I wanted to constantly hang out with you and have fun but I also wanted to enjoy the con and let other people there to see you have their time so I would walk away and come back when no one was there, then walk away again when someone walked up so they had their one on one time. It wasn’t until almost the end of the two days when everyone was going home that I was able to sit with y’all and laugh and have fun, even helped Stan charge their phone so they could finish the vlog. I can’t really pick up on cues but nine times out of ten I can tell when someone’s uncomfortable and back off. It’s easy and free to be a kind non creepy person even if you’re autistic.
I’m an autistic girl too, I hate that we ASD girls try so hard to be respectful to the point of being pushovers and people pleasers, but so many ASD guys don’t even care and make it everyone else’s problem, then say they can’t help it, it’s their ASD. Like, no, look at all of us ASD girls, we clearly learnt, and you just didn’t bother or wanted to dirty the name of autism to use it as an excuse!
What do you mean by bear?
@@maxrockatanskytheroadwarriorThis is referencing a question that’s been recorded as being asked of women, as to whether they would rather be cornered in the forest by a man or a bear, and oftentimes women answer that they’d rather pick the bear.
@@vietbluecoeur ohhh i understand
it’s ok to say female 😅 even transmasc and nb female people go thru this
"He's right behind you" like a damn horror movie bro omggg. This is so bad. Glad you're both safe.
Also, your cosplays were so freaking good!!!!
“He’s right behind me isn’t me” ahh situation 😭 (ok real note tho im glad there safe too that’s really scary)
There’s a difference between being socially oblivious as a result of being neurodivergent, and using your neurodivergency as a crutch to be enabled.
I’m autistic and in my 20s and still sometimes mess up and say or do things that i worry makes people uncomfortable or comes off as weird to them.
And you know what i do? I apologize to them and try and keep in mind to avoid saying or doing those things again.
This guy KNEW what he was doing was weird, at least to some extent. Which to me means this isn’t the first or likely last time he’s done something like this. And he probably won’t stop until somebody puts their foot down HARD on him.
As someone who has been diagnosed with aspergers syndrome since the age of 2, it makes me mad that the con staff dropped the ball with this as it was not ok with what he did. I hope this didnt completely ruin your experience. I recently discovered your channel and your cosplays are amazing. Keep up the amazing work and I hope you have a great day 😊
Hi fellow aspie!
The striker "why does it have to be s3x thing" made me chuckle, but I'm so sorry you went through this.
Thank you for posting this because I feel like the con scene is perceived as "Safe" now vs years ago (been attending cons since 2010 myself). And yes, it seems that way, but I've been going for over a decade and know what to look for and avoid and some younger cosplayers/attendees might not or not know to go to con staff to report. Cosplay is NOT consent, no matter the outfit.
So I've been attending conventions and cosplaying since I was 13 in 2003. So with 21 years of experience, I can absolutely say that the problem with creeps in the community has only gotten worse over the years. The community is CRAWLING with predators. They see a community where the majority of the people are neurodivergant and sometimes socially awkward/naive, and it's just a pool of potential victims for them.
Thankfully, in the past 10 years, people gave become more comfortable calling those out who act like this.
He has a mouth breather build💀💀💀 THE AUDACITY IS CRAZYYYYY LMAOOOOOOO SORRY YALL HAD TO GO THRU THAT FR
Hey guys! I was the kid in the skeleton shirt and the lanyard with a bunch of pins that said hi to you! You guys were in that seating area when I said hi, but im really sorry that happened to you guys. Stay safe out there guys
which part of the video i can't find you 😭
@@11_Reaper_11 I wasn’t in the video! They weren’t filming when I said hi :)
@@Eli.IsGoofy aww... would be cool if i saw you tho! it must've been pretty amazing to see them
Omg that’s a little scary. Stalkers are no joke. I’ve been chased at a con before. I’m still glad y’all had fun and was safe. I can’t wait for more. Be there and be square ❤❤❤❤
I am so sorry you were chased 🫂 I hope your next conventions are only full of fun and good to you, please take care :( 💜
@@Yue_mariin00 thank you. Yea that was really scary. Im sure my next one will be better. 💖
I could literally actually FEEL the embarrassment and awkwardness while watching the guy come up to you both 😭 Ive had many experiences close to this since me and my friend usually do female cosplays at con, I am so sorry
love how she says at 17:00 "you're gonna have a bad time" while in the sans cosplay lol
14:08 - I'm so glad you FINALLY said it. And eventually reported to the staff.
16:10 - "This guy was having a meltdown because he was 'developmentally delayed.'" THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO BE CREEPY AND STALKING PEOPLE. 😭 It's absolutely not okay at all!!
You have such patience though. If I were in your shoes, I would have outright bluntly spat it to his face and report immediately when I felt something incredibly off. I likely would not have cared if I was painted the villain. They need to learn, and they'll learn the hard way from me.
I'm just glad the situation was handled (probably not in the best way you'd prefer) and that you and Aster are, most importantly, safe.
We can definitely rack this up as a fellow Con Goer Nightmare Stories. Let this be a fellow lesson to always stay alert and be safe at cons, everyone.
Be safe, be there, and be square. 💟
Its people like that that ruin experiences. It just taints the whole day. Being creeped on puts me on edge and I cant feel safe even hours, days later
Honestly, people need to learn to leave people alone. It's creepy and it's ruining stuff for everyone.
He knew what he was doing was wrong. He can clearly control his actions.
I’ve experienced this even outside of cosplay, as a big boob woman I’m aware that wearing a revealing top will mean I’ll get unwanted attention even though it’s not my fault. the last con I went to I wore a top that covered everything except my cleavage and had multiple ppl stand in front of me staring at me, stopping me to make comments. I even brought and CHANGED INTO a different full coverage shirt because I was increasingly uncomfortable and had a man at one of the counters stare at my chest and then scowl at me 😭 like you can’t make this shit up
You can dress up as a catholic cloister nun and you will still be harrased. It's a dangerous world. 😨
I am not a cosplayer but I love cosplay. Instead i am a gothic women. (which if you know is heavily fetished and also has a terrible male audience outside the culture). I cant tell you how many times of me just going out in public to hangout, parties, or literally just community gatherings where I was being followed/ talked to inappropriately. Yall are not alone, do know that. Just because I dress up (which is literally only 10% of the time) I am harassed and sexualized. Alot of the time they get away with it by simply saying "Oh i wasnt trying to harrass her!", "That wasnt my intentions!" "I was just having a bad day!" and they get a slap on the wrist and expect us to just be okay with everything! We are here with you and stand with you.
REALLLLLL
Ive had a very similar experience which makes me really sad because I would love to be authentic to myself and style but my safety is most important.
Y'all's story sounds so much like mine and it's honestly terrifying and disappointing that these things happen so much to cosplayers at conventions.
I pretty much have the same story, was at a con with one of my friends, and the last day of the con, we got stalked big time. A dude came up to us and he asked how old we were. We told him our ages (young enough to be still considered a minor), and the whole conversation gave me and my friend the creeps. We thought nothing else of it, but he then came back up to us in a booth and started making comments to my friend while I was buying something, and he even told her he is autistic, his parents had a booth at the con, and he was in his 20's. We immediately were like okay we need to avoid this dude he seems creepy, and we managed to avoid him majority of the con. We were about a couple of hours away from the end of the con and we were just sitting upstairs where the food was, and my friend saw him coming up the stairs. We're pretty sure he actually was originally there for food, but the second he saw us sitting there he turned in our direction, so we speed walked away and went down the other set of stairs, and we were basically like, okay, this dude is starting to follow us. We ran down the stairs and were going around the corner, but sure enough the dude tried to cut us off by going the opposite way around. We were full on running into one of the rooms and hid. We waited there for a few minutes, then went as fast as we could out of there to the registration desk, and asked for security, who I can not ever show my thanks enough. The second we said someone was stalking us, they cut us off asking us who and what the person looked like, we described him, and they went searching for him immediately, and the people at the desk took us behind the desk to keep us safe, trying to calm us down and comfort us. Sure enough, since this dude had been following us, he had reappeared looking like he was searching for us, and the security got him. These people were so amazing and respectful. We had told them everything we knew about the dude to help them find him, and they did not care if his parents had a booth. They did not care if he was autistic. They still went after him and put a stop to him. They also escorted us to our cars so we could get home safely. They were even particular about how we walked to our cars. They stayed right next to our sides and if we passed any kind of door or car, they stayed on that side of us. This is a fast summary but it was honestly terrifying and it's so sad this stuff happens to cosplayers. I'm not even a girl, I just was wearing a very feminine cosplay that day (elf). People can be so sick the second they see anything they might think is attractive.
I hate guys who use their autism as an excuse to be a creep. I’m autistic too, most of us (esp girls) work so hard to be mindful of people’s boundaries.
This didn't happen to me at a convention, but something similar happened to me near my house when I went outside. My bf and I were going to popeyes he forgot his sweater and told me he needed to go get it I told him I'll meet him at the store. I walked to the popeyes but passed by this guy who had his dong out, I ignored him and kept it moving to my destination. The same dude came up behind me when I got to the front of the restaurant, and he touched me. I yelled at him not to fu ck ing touch me because he had his hands on his privates. He told me he had autism, I told him idgaf if he did or didn't. That's not an excuse to take your weiner out, touch it, and touch someone with the hands you touched your dong with. My bf walked in on me screaming at the guy, I told him what happened, and he went off on the guy and made me go get the police from across the street. It was so disgusting and traumatizing that it even happened in the first place. The guy saw me pass by him and purposely followed me just to touch me.
Every place I go, it’s like this. 90 percent of people are awesome and respectable but there’s always that one guy. It’s so easy to look back and think to myself ‘why didn’t I tell that guy off’ but I dunno. It’s hard to describe the deer in headlights feeling it causes when someone starts to do stuff like this. The actions they give off, the way they act, it truly frightens me to my core. I’d never heard of the fawning phrase before, that’s an eye opener to me.
Worst one I ever had followed me to my car, wouldn’t let me close my door and only let go when he started to see me cry. He was also said to have mental problems and was therefore allowed to keep going to local meets and keep doing this stuff to other women. He made it another three meets until he was kicked out.
Thank you for sharing your story. I think it’s important we all keep calling these people out.
I was stalked at a convention a couple years ago.. dude found my instagram and non stopped messaged me, and confessed his love to me?? Wweeeeiiiirrrrdddd
Developmentally delayed or not if they can talk about sex and be creeps they are mature enough to receive consequences to their actions. I defended a girl who was being stalked by a guy who we later found out was autistic. I told him to go away she is not comfortable (nice but stern), her friend smiled when I said that and the guy saw it. He rushed to the girl that laughed and yelled “im a good person!” to her face (wtf) and the girl was horrified! I immediately stood up and shoved him and got in his face like and inch away telling him to never yell at a woman or anyone like that again (It was my reaction though extreme it called for it) he cried and apologized and they kicked him out. But did I really have to scream and threaten a guy to get him to? No excuses, they are smarter than that and if anything says allot about their upbringing and who was at fault for that, not us thats for sure.
that first setence- yes exactly
he could clearly articulate his unsavory intentions so he's got the cognitive prowess, as a fully grown adult to boot, to know better
@@Nyasahi Exactly!
Yeah that stalker was... yikes
I had a stalker at Anime Los Angeles because I was cosplaying as Venti from Genshin on Sunday (it was a skimpy maid outfit so of course some people would be a creep & was first out of comfort zone for showing more of my skin because i wanted to try it out but i had another maid outfit waiting at my hotel in case i wanted to switch) Didn't notice that someone was stalking me until I was told. Wished i could've recorded the whole thing to provide evidence but it is what it is.
Hopefully that stalker doesn't go to any cons you go.
I hate it when people try to use their neurodivergence as an excuse to be a bad person it’s gross
Im a pretty young cosplayer and always go to conventions with my dad who is tall and muscular so people leave me alone but im really really sorry this happened to you. Creeps, no matter their mental age, should never be allowed to creep on anyone. Loved your cosplays :)
I saw that guy walking around and he gave me bad vibes so I kept my distance, I had no idea he was following yall im so sorry that happened. there was more sketchy dudes there I also had a bad interaction with like two guys, shits insane i'm so glad yall are safe now!
Con staff messed up hard core.
Fanime has a lot of issues (Cali con), but the staff are fucking on it. I was cosplaying as Ariel in her mermaid form, and a staff member went out of their way to tell me where the cosplay lounge was _and_ assure me security was in the room. They told me how to recognize staff and security.
The next day, I was Black Canary. Different staff member, similar conversation. When I was harassed in that costume, security shut it the fuck down.
I am so sorry that the staff at this con made so many errors. No one should ever feel unsafe at a con, and if that does happen, staff should ensure the harasser is handled without any blame falling on the victim.
Remember when Fanime was one of the cons people told you to go to instead of the one to avoid?
@@catandrobbyflores Considering that this only changed this year...yes.
It sucks that con management fucked itself as hard as it did. It has always been one of my favorite cons, but it's just insane how staff have been treated and how many preventable mistakes were made.
This experience is definitely uncomfortable and scary! Also a little tip! If you’re ever in situation like that again, I should just try to look for a nice little group of people and ask for them to stick by your side until he leaves or until you guys get to a safe area.
I'm autistic, and even I know what consent is and what that guy was doing was wrong
man that dude was CREEPY, i hope u guys have a better time at ur next con, to anyone reading this plz be careful stay safe!!🩷
17:10 you sayin this in a Sans cosplay is PERFECT!
Following 2 women around a convention when they are really like trying to move away signaling that they dont want to be near you and then still follow them is NOT ok and should be dealt with ASAP. I'm so sorry you went through that.
I’m autistic, but I’m a woman and I’ve noticed that cishet autistic men can be a whole different breed on their own. I really hate to generalise and I’m holding out hope that there really are some awesome autistic guys that I’ll one day meet, but so far I’ve only met ones like this guy. And in an abundance, too 😬
Unfortunately, an autism diagnosis doesnt remove the AUDACITY cis men have 😭😭😭 thank god Trans men and trans mascs exist, I hope you meet some cool autism mans soon 😭😭😭🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
no you're absolutely right, because i'm an autistic effeminate trans man and I'VE been in this situation before with a dude following my friends & me around saikoucon (eastern PA), specifically a guy who has stalked ppl at cons all along the east coast AND who's been known to follow women home & stand outside their houses in philly ((((': he caught me wearing my mettaton ex cosplay again for the first time since i got 800000 catcalls debuting it at NYCC, so naturally he had no idea what he was up against. i stared that runt down in my pleaser stiletto boots and sent him RUNNING out of the venue. i'm still chasing that high to this day.
one of two experiences i've had being stalked by a mosquito in the shape of an autistic cis man. not a lot, but weird that it happened twice U':
Well that's definitely generalizing
@@aaronjames3228 bro if this doesn’t apply to you then you shouldn’t take it personally. This ain’t abt you.
@@aaronjames3228 "I’m holding out hope that there really are some awesome autistic guys that I’ll one day meet, but so far I’ve only met ones like this guy. And in an abundance" They're just saying they've seen way too many of these not that that all men with autism are like that. Hope this helps.
That's terrifying. I thought the double red flags of the initial creep 'offering feet pics' with the aim of 'gaining Vtuber info' was wild. This stalker situation is absolutely terrifying. I've been told to avoid secluded areas, because they can corner you and no one would be around to notice and help. I've also found it helpful to repeatedly notify staff multiple times as the situation escalates, so that even if each interaction might seem trivial, the repeated reports usually convey the severity of the situation, if that makes sense.
This might be completely underrated but I absolutely love these Sans cosplay I cosplayed once as error Sans and it doesn't look that great cuz I am allergic to makeup and my mother won't buy me face paint
Dude to be honest you guys are my childhood!! I love to watch you so much !! I when I was 13!! Now I’m 18 ! You guys just make my day !better :3!!
Autism is not an excuse to be a creep, I deal with autism myself and even I know no matter what disability you say you have a creep is still a creep
Being stalked isn't fun. Its scary and makes you feel uncomfortable. Glad y'all still had fun and glad you didn't see him again. Be safe at cons everyone
OMG IM IN THERE TWICE HOLY SHT😭😭😭 I love you guys sm I’ve been watching y’all forever
YAYAY
As someone who was also at COAF that weekend (Saturday only), I’m sorry that you both had to deal with such a person. It’s terrible. No one deserves to be stalked, no matter the circumstances.
Also, your cosplays are awesome, by the way!
this is actually crazy, i remember watching you guys back when you made group mha cosplays,, your guys' skills have skyrocketed and i love the improvement!!!!! omg
1. This is absolutly DISGUSTING and this guy deserves to be kicked out IMMEDIATLY. 2. ITS AN ANIME CONVENTION your supposed to ENJOY the convention not STALK SOMEBODY. 3. its crazy how you guys dont have 1m subcribers yet 4. love the fits yall are so cool
I'm sorry the staff treated you horribly, they need to do better at dealing with stalkers, that was a dangerous situation. I'm glad you two are ok, that's scary as f*ck.
i went to my first anime convention last year, this guy came up to me, pointed at his son, and asked me to step on him the son was like 25 and the dad was like 50 something. I declined and was so uncomfortable i almost started crying, for the rest of the night they kept pointing at me and following me around.
I'm just glad you're both safe, I love your cosplays!!! this is my first time watching, but I'll definitely keep watching!
As an autistic person myself, one of the best things you can do for us is tell us or have someone in charge tell us if we're doing something wrong. I've regretfully hurt a lot of people because of my obliviousness and it really sucks when people didn't tell me because they felt bad because I have autism. The truth is, by not telling them, you're enabling them/ teaching them that it's okay to do the things they're doing. This guy's behavior is a result of his parent's enabling him or letting it go because of his disability. You did the right thing in reporting him and I wish you all the best.
You should also be able to wear whatever you want, especially to a convention.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if you're misreading ques of someone being your travel buddy you wouldn't lie like that. He had to know what he was doing.
@@marymystery4427 I agree. If what you believe you're doing is right, you don't go out of your way to come up with strange excuses to cover what you did. In fact, you wouldn't need to excuse yourself at all.
@@setuser777 My response to that is this. Autism can be an explanation, but please, never use it as an excuse.
Also autistic, seconded! It benefits no one to let creepy behaviour go unchecked.
Getting stalked at a con is one of my greatest fears 😭😭😭 IMAGINE IF YOU TWO WERE ON YOUR OWN OMGG 😨
How awful that you both had to go through this and were met with such an uneducated response. Thank you for sharing this for awareness and getting to see what it looks like to be in such a situation. I'll have this video on my mind for a long, long time.
This video popped up on my feed and I was like OH MY GOD I REMEMBER THESE GUYS! I used to watch y’all all the time a couple years ago. I’m so glad I found y’all again and I’m gonna binge watch some of your vids later:))
This convention has a bit of a track record unfortunately. There was that one time where their former con head of staff admitted to SA-ing someone and they tried to rug sweep it, then there was another year where one guy got caught trying to get underage girls drunk and was taking creep shots up skirts and staff didn’t do much to enforce his ban. I want to believe in COAF but it’s difficult sometimes to do so since this is a consistent issue but hopefully this doesn’t happen again!
But that's horrible! The staff should be publically shamed and and exposed!!
@@levi_lover25 the head of staff was Greg Hynes iirc. He got replaced soon after and has been laying low. I don’t know the creep shots guy? I think his name started with D like Dylan or Dustin. Apparently he’s still seen at the local conventions
oml no way he started a conversation like that, he is SICK in the mind..
anyways, absolutely love the cosplays! ^v^
🌽 addictions are honestly a plague.
Thats what the mind of a p*rnwatcher is, P*rn is a plague to society
@@starsneptunexx tbh yeah
It's not that crazy
@@aaronjames3228 uhm wdym?? he started a convo with OF.. how is it ‘nOT ThaT CRaZy’
i know this is serious but the striker meme had me rolling on the floor also i feel so bad for you that interaction must have been so awkward for you and i hope this doesn’t happen again :)
This is the first one of your videos I've watched. You ladies are beautiful, and mad talented. I'm so sorry you had to go through this.
I went to a convetion cosplayed as luz from toh and this dude just grabbed me by the shoulder and arms but i legit bit him so hard the security came. He did got kicked out :)
A true Luz reaction, good on you 👏👏
Frick yeah dude
Not even the owl house is safe??? There goes my Vee cosplay.
i actually got stalked by a 12y.o :/
i kept giving them the benefit of the doubt that they were immature and just admired me as a 17y.o cosplayer but we both were cosplaying characters that were shipped together, kept doing random things to get my attention like just saying my characters name but nothing else- eventually they literally shouted "I LOVE YOU MARRY ME" despite me being clearly older-- during this they got my tiktok as they saw my friend recording one and eventually we messaged a bit and when i told them im 17 (they asked me to go first) they "ugh its always the older ones!!" and told me they were 12 (I immediately reassured them they could block me if the age made them uncomfortable or ANYTHING because i dont want to come across that way, even though they were reaching out to me) but apparently they're comfortable?? so im really just hoping i dont see them again, i dont mind having them as like a mutual but them literally saying they loved me and complaining that 'its always the older ones' they like is um
I almost want to copy paste your entire story and swap the genders to the storyteller being a 17yo guy with a 12yo girl and see if i can pass it off as the storyteller being stalked, too. Holy what did I just read.
@@janah6473 Im a 17y.o female and the 12y.o was also female 😭
@@seththewe1rdo Okay, let me fix that: The 12 y.o's gender doesn't actually matter.
@@janah6473 ahhh gotcha lol but that's why I used they/them anyway
@@seththewe1rdo a 12 year old is a girl?!
13:40 dude got up faster than lightning mcqueen i swear
I witnessed that happen with my friend at Anime Magic. A guy came up to us to talk about Warhammer with him. My friend would get up to leave and do smth, the guy would hover around me until he came back to continue talking. He hovered around us for another hour or so while we ate until we walked into Artist alley and lost him
17:15 lol I see what you did there.
Looking at the way he swayed the staff he probably did it a couple of times before that creep will definitely do it to others again.
Here's to hoping that the creep doesn't find your channels or socials.
Hearing you talk about your fawn response is very eye opening for me. I have a similar trauma response, and I similarly have convinced myself I want to appease, and I'm not angry, even when I'm extremely uncomfortable, and.. I guess I needed to hear that experience from someone else to realize how unhealthy it was of me, and the healing I need to do. That it's a normal reaction to an abnormal situation, and that even after all that healing, I still may do it some, and that's okay. That my partner is also good at noticing my discomfort and I should try to catch when they notice to better handle situations maybe?
In general, it helps a lot, so thank you ^^
All things aside, the cosplays looked awesome! I’m excited to see the cool things you two come up with next!
I’m disabled and it’s disgusting how people these days excuse someone’s behaviour all because they’re neurodivergent. No, we just respond to things differently and even though I might be on a different spectrum than he is, I’m pretty sure he knows what he’s doing. I’m so sorry you had to go through that, mate.
that sounds so scary con creeps are every con-goers nightmare but im glad yous are safe now!
I am so glad you both are safe! 🥲
He looks like Dan Schneider. That's all you need to know about him lol
My sister and I were stalked at our first con when we were 14 and 15 years old. There was this 40 something year old man with an iPad who kept passing by us and taking photos, and with the iPad it was so obvious he was taking pics. He asked for a pic within the within the first hour of the con and after that he followed us up until we left the venue for lunch which was like 4 hours later whenever we sat down he tried to take pics up our skirts. Our mom even stepped in, and he left, for like 5 minutes. We were dressed as Rem and Ram from re:zero.
Omg im sorry that dude was following you guys! If I was in that situation id probably do the exact same thing that you did, like the EXACT same thing. I'm glad he left and you both had a better time
You’re so valid, I legit felt so uncomfortable for you both seeing him just hang around, my flight or fight senses were screaming and I wasn’t even in that situation TwT so glad you guys were safe
I love you and Aster so much, you guys are one of the best couples on CZcams! :D
Regardless what the reason was for his behavior, does not excuse him stalking you guys, making you uncomfortable and ruining a day of the Con. If he was willing to lie, and go through the effort of following you both around, he knew what he was doing. And even then, what were you two supposed to think when he kept circling and then sitting right in front of/near you two? He's a stranger... you don't know what's going on in his mind, or what he may have hidden on his person or in that bag.
I understand people tend to feel bad when they find out the person is developed mentally disabled, or neurodivergent, whatever the case, but I'd rather still be ALIVE and unharmed when finding that out with security/police nearby. Also, who is to say that he was telling the truth about that? People can easily lie about things to seem more sympathetic. If he was willing to lie about why he was following you, what else wouldn't he lie about? Last thing he was gonna accept was being outed as a creep, clearly.
Stalking content creators at an event where they will be filming constantly and have tons of other fans behind them is so not only creepy but stupid did he think you wouldn’t notice and if you did that you wouldn’t bring it up? Creep news travels fast at cons like ????
It sucks how theres so many stories of people getting con stalked..im so sorry you guys and so many othrrs had to get that type of encounter...
I really hope there's more protocols when it comes to a person getting stalked/harassed in future cons. Im just glad you guys managed to still have fun
Your cosplays are on point and you rocked them. Fantastic job 😊
I’m so sorry y’all were being stalked, that’s my worst fear when at cons. :( Seriously love y’all, y’all are awesome and smart for how you dealt with the situation. Stay safe❤
Sad to see Colorado conventions haven't changed much since my last. I'm so, so sorry you were put through all this, by the stalker AND the staff.
OH my god!!! I’m so glad I found y’all’s CZcams channel! I’ve been following you guys on tiktok for forever! I’m sorry this is the video I come back to but I’m glad everything has been resolved! You guys are truly amazing people. To earn respect is to give respect! Boundaries people boundaries! Cosplayers are humans just like everyone else! It’s simple! Also LOVE the sans cosplay as well!
I found your channel when I was scrolling through mha cosplays, I've watched your videos every since and I love them Xx
I want to thank you both for bringing up this awareness. I am happy that you both stay safe during all of that. I have notice over all my years of going to conventions and similuar events that in the moment we panic or get confused even to try and find safety. I am so glad you did go to staff, even if it did end a bit off putting for you. Most don't think to go to staff.
And this for everyone as well! If you ever feel unsafe and say you are at booths like artist alleys, do talk to others to help get staff if you feel followed or need a group of people be walls of protection. Some will fully help out if asked kindly.
This is... No. No, that's weird. Why would this guy ask something so weird out of freaking NOWHERE. No one wanted this, no one asked for this, this guy is strange. I hope you had a good time and if you did, I'm glad you didn't let that guy take your mood down. Your cosplays are AMAZING by the way, love it! Been here for years, excited for more. Hope to meet you at a Con at least one day!
It's not that weird
@@aaronjames3228 Following people around, asking them if they have an OnlyFans in broad daylight, stalking and then having those you followed apologize to you for your behavior is pretty weird.
sadly this is a strange colorado issue. i’m a native and me and some of my friends have had long time stalkers. colorado is also one of the main states with the largest rate of homicides and violent crimes.
The wig and eyebrows you did for the Roxy cosplay are INCREDIBLE. I’m obsessed
AND YOU GUYS’ NAILS AAAAAAHH
At 14:33 I was happy to hear the words of that one person saying “that’s perfectly fine” when you asked the stalker “why are you following us” and also I hope your doing better and also I was at that convention I couldn’t stay long but I did see you guys and I wanted to hi but I couldn’t but I hope we will meet again in the future and I hope you guys are safe out there