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- Nick Wright, Kevin Wildes and Chris Broussard discuss the latest news in the NBA including the Jayson Tatum agreeing to a 5-year, $314M contract extension with the Boston Celtics. The FTF cast also react to news the Celtics are up for sale after winning their 18th NBA Championship in 2024.
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Where is the full podcast for Monday, June 1, 2024? 🤔🤷🏻♂️ It’s not posted. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for posting so quickly. Hoang would be proud
Hoang Bi walked so we could run. Thank you for forcing FTF to post this quickly
The hoang glaze needs to be studied
@@dadillonfulyes I'm on it
@@dadillonful the Hoang Bi credit is all deserved. Do you see how fast they post videos? As soon as the FTF crew finish a segment, they've seemingly already posted it
@@MilkiasDebessayagreed. I use to watch hoang bi constantly since he uploaded first. Now I watch this channel and I’m sure the studio is noticing the increase in views
Nope because I can't find the podcast from yesterday
Bonus hour means Fox Sports 1 has finally learned who runs that channel
News flash it's not undisputed and speak is last
I think I did it, I said they should have a 3 hour show and then we have this ahem!
It was because the soccer game ended but in the sprit this is their best show not even close
No one cares about any other show
Need this twice a month 😂✊🏾
BONUS HOUR OF FTF? we're eating today boys
Good show
Shorter Nick Wright: I don't understand defense, so I will ignore it.
Sooooo... Tatum has to be a defensive monster while Luka can be horrible but still better? What?
JT is better he has a ring Luka doesn't
Put JT on the mavs, I don't think they even make the WCF. Taytum is great, but his teammates are much better than Luka's
If you are not as good offensively then you have to be better defenisively.
Yep Slovenian bias 😂
bro we all watch the games. JT isn't even close to the player Luka is.
I don’t understand why Luka it’s unanimously better than Tatum when Tatum outplayed him 5/7 times this year.
How about you put Tatum on the same Dallas team and will they make the finals?
@@nigelliang4239 So it's not Luka's fault he shot .230 from Three in game 5? It's the fault of his teamates?
@@nigelliang4239yes they will.
@@nigelliang4239they can , Tatum brings defensive upside and is also can put up monster numbers when needed , he averages 35/9/6 when shooting 25 or more times last season
@@nigelliang4239dumb scenario....2 different play styles...different systems. Tatum already proved he can average 30ppg but that's not gonna win us championships and that's why Luka won't win any either ala James Harden
Bruh how many times have JT kicked out giannis and Joel in the playoffs
Twice for Giannis like 4 times with Embiid
You’d rather have JT over Giannis?
@@JM_100 yes
@@IsraeliteTre giannis on the Celtics instead of Tatum win 70+ games
@@albertislas4374Stop it
I think Tatum still haven’t reached his ceiling he’s 25-26?? That’s scary
Yes. He's already showed us that he's the biggest choker in finals' history. He could prove to be the biggest overall choker in basketball history, and why not all sports history.
@@penkima4923 choke up on signing the richest contract in the history of the NBA
@@penkima4923dude are you okay? What’s got you upset today bud? The internet is here for you
@@penkima4923 led his team to the NBA championship whilst leading them in points, rebounds and assists.
If that's choking then every franchise in the league is looking for a choker half as good as Jayson Tatum. Cope harder 😂
@@franjes9999have Tatum talk about them big games he has when he plays the heat. He was a bum in both there series. Played like garbage. Butler made Tatum look like his bitc@
They talk about Luka being top 3 then Brou says “but can Tatum be a tenacious defender!?”
Lol
The difference is that Luka is in the "Amazing" tier of offense which covers the "average" tier of defense he's in. Tatum is in the "Really Good" tier in offense so he needs to be at a higher tier defensive wise to counter argument Luka's offense.
😂
@@joshuahudson1853luka is not average on defense he is horrible
@@joshuahudson1853luka is not average on defense. Hes one of the worst defensive stars we’ve ever seen
@@joshuahudson1853 Tatum already went out and had a 30 ppg season. He doesn't need to for his team to win, so he took a role in taking less shots for the greater good of the team. The difference isn't enough to ignore the fact Luka doesn't play defense. He is not average. He tries taking charges with 5 fouls, and gets blown by constantly. Tatum's only negative is his clutch play, which hasn't been good. And him having a better team around him, so he doesn't get as many shots as Luka.
Embiid can't perform in the playoffs...ever! Top 4 in the WORLD?
I wouldn't even put him in top 10.
Mvp is a regular season award
Tatum has been to 5-6 conference finals, embiid hasnt even been to ONE
Because tatum has way better team duh he should have win mvp for nba finals mvp but his teammates won it. He couldn't even win eastern conference finals 😂😂😂😂😂
@@sbkamara2003dude Embiid is soft and not a winner, idk why tf Chris keep calling him Top5 etc… He says other players have to produce in the Offs but Joel gets babied because he “always injured”
@@sbkamara2003 pretty sure tatum still has a ring and embiid doesnt
@@sbkamara2003Tatum have dat trophy the first time going to the finals so what ur talking about idiot stop talk foolishness go learn some sense Tatum was beating Embiid when Philly had better players than Boston on still was losing to a rookie Tatum
@@sbkamara2003 They both got a ECF MVP now. JT did not win bc Luka is JB matchup and PJ was JT's they both did their job stop Luka from facilitating and stop PJ from killing you like he did the other teams! JT picked apart the defense to create for his team mates which he chose to send the ball to JB more than Jrue & Derrick while stopping PJ from killing him like he did the Thunders! Celtics do not finish without JT becoming a better creator & JB a defender! Luka was the matchup this time rather than KD/ Giannis both of which JT has gone toe to with and won the matchup! May be next time we see Jrue Vs Jamal JT Vs Aaron and KP Vs Jokic! For voters is about matchups more than what all the player is doing sometimes and the box office matchup here was Edwards Vs Brown which turned into Luka Vs Brown! They both excel in their matchups now before JB lost those matchups not anymore while JT doesn't take a step back but continues to win his! They are phenomenal as they are now in (JB) and about to hit (JT) their primes!
I find it disingenuous to say Tatum can’t be the best player in the league because isn’t “tenacious” on defense when 2 of the 3 players you have in tier one are horrific on defense. So to me it’s like “ok so its really based on gaudy numbers and wow moments”
I find it disingenuous for you to say anything about defense, if you're just quoting other people, and not using quotation marks.
@@penkima4923 you see me
thank you! half nicks top 4 play horrible defense and are NOTHING truly like the kobe or mj or lebrons of this or ANY era...
Just standard babble for this awful show with these awful hosts
Seems to me his point was that Tatum can't be consistent on offense. Those other 4 guys will deliver offense every time, no matter the situation. If Tatum cant be consistent on offense then he will have to be the best on the other side
Good for Tatum, he probably will never win MVP due to his team having such great players, but he absolutely deserves this money as the best player on a championship team. That Celtics team is scary for years to come man.
He sux
@@LikeLikeLikeLikeLiyou’re a bot
Overpaid
@@matthewm6123 cry more
@@matthewm6123 Bradley Beal is making $50 million a year lmao not too much on Tatum. Salaries are only gonna keep going up brother
It’s always Tatum gotta do more to be put in the Top 5, meanwhile he’s literally beat the Giannis, Luka and continues to stop Embiid from making the eastern conference finals! 😒
Tatum isn’t even the best player on his own team lol😂
@@Liftoff17 Casual
@@LASAGNA_LARRY to even be in the conversation of best played in the world you gotta show up in big moments. Brown and Jrue bailed the Celtics out all playoffs when a clutch play was needed. Tatum was either laying bricks or in ghost mode
@@Liftoff17 Tatum is the 1 guy on the Cs that sees double teams. Your 2nd best player is the one seeing the press? When that start happening
@@Liftoff17 You're mad the Celtics won, right? So your way of coping is trying to tear down Tatum? It's kind of sad, man. You need therapy. It's just a game, chill out. Sad, sad boy.
1:02 WTF has EmbMID done? Dude has never even SNIFFED a conference final 😂😂😂 Broussard has lost credibility
It’s not 1 vs 1. Boston blew out Philly by 30+ last year, Embiid had 15 pts and Tatum had 7 points. You have to have good players and a reliable bench to win a chip.
@@GoodMortySmithsixers beat Boston WITHOUT EMBIID EVEN PLAYING in game 1
Embiid barely plays and people are saying he's top tier 😂😂😂
He did nothing to help his team and has yet to do anything. This is a joke that he's top tier.
@@anshkaushik7920they didn't beat Boston this year. The Celtics won banner 18 bro
@@GoodMortySmith What are you talking about? Last season in East Conference semis Tatum had 51 POINTS IN GAME 7. Embiid had 15 pts.
It’s crazy that they want JT to have extraordinary defense but have Luka as top 5 with mediocre defense. Make it make sense.
Mediocre is being kind. That ish horrendous.
This is exactly why i can never say luka is the best in the world.. his defense is horroundous.
@@waheeb_m It isn't horrendous.
@@waheeb_m That's why he has the energy to play offense. Playing defense is exhausting and would really expose his conditioning.
Put Luka on the Celtics and then put Tatum on the Mavs. You think same results for both teams?
“we’ve never seen nothing like luka before” says the people that just watched james harden run
Identical player.
Chris always moving the goal post 😂
Embiid never won anything or got the conference finals or finals and Luka was always top 4 for him and never did anything and Tatum lost both MVPs to Brown but still “better” BUT when KD won over Steph , he automatically better than Steph & Lebron
Nick in the middle of 23'24' season: you can only win a title with a top-5 player
Nick after celtics win title: .....
to be fair....he said only 3 guys were better than tatum lol
he hates Celtics lol
@@donferg0 & it burned his soul that he could only list 3.
But notice, he didn't say top-5. Now that tatum is clearly top-5 (in my opinion), he has moved the goal post. Now it's "tier's" that a Celtic is top-5. You gotta pay attention.
@@wannabegolfin24-72He’s playing a character that’s just how this show works - he just hates on the Celtics extra hard. It’s just what he does lol
@@wannabegolfin24-72 I know, Nick is just entertainment at this point. He knows no1 takes his takes serious.
Nick weight irks my heart and my would, LUKA is only a great offensive player Jason is by far a better all around player please man I don’t want to hear it
By far? So if JT was on the Mavs would they have won this finals?
@@JM_100what does one have to do with the other? Stupid
@@JM_100yes.
Luka is better in everything than Tatum except defense. Tatum isn't in that convo lil man, never was, never will be, never will sniff the mvp. D E A L W I T H I T
@@pavlegrebenarevic382 so you were the one who said Mavs in 7
I guess Tatum has to throw up 30 shots for 30 points to be a top 5 player 😂
The hate on Tatum is insanity. The hate for Boston for that matter is insanity. Boston has the very best team for the next 3 years.
Nah he just threw up 22 a game to average 22 in the finals 😂😂
@@luisdowling_ElJefe30 JT is better than your favorite lol
The issue is it literally takes him 30 shots to score 30
He is good but come on man, you think if tatum was in the mavs to say something instead of Luka they would make the finals?
Embiid can't perform in the playoffs...ever! Top 4 in the WORLD?!
Sure
Embiid has NEVER made a conference appearance 😂😂😂 but he’s top 4 in the world Broussard is a joke😂
@@gsmoneybabyxxl7575 tbf Embiid does look good in the regular season.
@@gsmoneybabyxxl7575you think Tatum a better player than embiid
Um Embiid has an MVP… last year he played 33 minutes per game and averaged 34/11/6 and the year before 33/10/4 and the year before 30/11/4. Don’t confuse player greatness with team success. There are 10-15 other people on the team.
Tatum has almost as many conference finals appearances as Jokic, Giannis and Luka combined. Only 1 less finals appearance than all three combined, and as many titles as Giannis and Jokic. 4 time all nba and 5 all star appearances, but there's nothing he can do to be viewed as the best player in the league? hilarious!!!
It’s insane they want to mention Tatums defense but crickets about Lukas?😂
JT doesn't fit the agenda. On court we all know he elite and actually plays both sides of the court. But also off court presence.
Side note is that he plays for Boston. Their run and chip has shown the shade most have from the team.
They won without their starting 5 being healthy and somehow what other team do means something.
his team is great and brown is arguably better
Tatum doesn’t have to prove anything 😂
Celtics just cut the check for 314M you don't give that kind of money to bum players.
Tatum top 5 like it or not
Tatum is top-1 biggest choker in finals history.
@@penkima4923 Finals winner
Na he’s like #6 I rather have Murry then him
Bradley beal got a max contract
@@fkscopes Tatum got well over the "Max" standard Max is 35M under 6 years.
Top 5 players make well over Max
luka does not play defense but you say tatum has to play d when he already plays defense. Chris this is silly
Nick how did that Mavericks pick go?
Mavs in 5 😂
I'll give him a pass since he was the only 1 having the Mavs going to the finals from the jump of the playoffs
@@anthonybassett4313 Did he have them going to the playoffs?
@@anthonybassett4313 let's be real; he had the Lakers going to the Finals and only picked the Mavs after LA got whacked by DEN.
@@vitreo1363 No this is incorrect. Nick picked LA to beat Denver in round 1 and that was incorrect but Nick had Dallas going to the finals from day 1. He had Dallas vs LA and picked Dallas to win. Please get your facts straight when you attempt to be real.
Its crazy to put Luka ahead of Tatum when Tatum just won a Championship against Luka himself.....
Boy is Nick ever having a hard time accepting that the Celtics are the team to beat and built to have another great run. Mr. contrarian need his wheese with his whine today.
We've had people say this exact thing about the last 6 champions, and still nobody has repeated.
Nick's building the gotcha case for Boston's failure. He did same thing with KD's Warriors and Joker's 2nd MVP. Above all else, Nick wants a supremely controversial take of his to come true by some miracle, so he can gloat i-told-you-so.
It’s just fun to hate Tatum. Tatum leads in almost every single playoff stat since he entered the league. Multiple time All-Star & All-NBA player. ECF Finals MVP. Finals champion.
I get it, Tatum was forced down everyone’s throat at the beginning of his career so everyone is tired of it, but the dude is easily one of the best in the world.
Selling the team after the contract has got to be top 5 in, alright I'm going to head out history 😂😂
Facts
Their luxury tax is gonna be insane everyone in the starting lineup has a big contract
they better take advantage of this summer break from Colin and find topics lool
Colin dont know you
And if you stopped watching we wouldn't care
@@shykeillowe288you weird
@@BlackedOutDreamsThat’s Collin’s Burner account
😂😂😂😂😂
Again. Embiid ahead of Tatum is crazy when he's outplayed him literally every time theyve played in the playoffs
Tatum is 26 and apparently can't get any better. Granted his teammate just did.
The Celtics owners giving their starting five a billion dollars in contracts and then selling the team before they have to actually pay out is actually hilarious
The new ownership can just calculate the projected luxury tax from the guaranteed contract and shave it in the offer or share it with the current ownership.
I'm a Celtics fan so naturally I'm very biased when it comes to all things Celtics. I like them to beat any team in the east in 6 games or less, this includes the new-look Knicks, Sixers and any of the old guard. Against the west? I struggle to see them dropping more than 1 or 2 games against ANY team that makes it to the finals.
Edit: Forgot to mention that this is assuming they're healthy and aren't missing their key pieces. If they're missing guys then teams like the Knicks, Bucks and 6ers obviously have a shot at knocking the Cs out before the finals.
I think OKC could be a good matchup. The rest of the teams, I see Boston beating pretty soundly
I think the T Wolves would be a tough matchup for them.
Yeah, the only concern for me is Jokic absolutely bullied our bigs last season. Having said that, they have lost ALOT of depth (now KCP is gone too!). So I don't think they will make it out of the West anyway. Would agree with the rest of your assessment.
They’d lose in finals in 6 or 7 games
Or lose to the knicks in ECF
No repeat champs since warriors so the field is pretty strong in these odds
@@lightningjuniorsuper can't see the Knicks beating them despite a strong squad and the Knicks are scarier than any West coast team in my view, so dunno who you got beating them in the Finals.
Nick gonna glaze Luka all the way to the end with no rings 😂
Three guys that never played basketball saying to a very young multimillion dollar talented player who just won a championship that he has to prove himself is amazingly hilarious. The media is a joke.
putting Embid, who never been to the ECF is crazy to me. Talk about someone made of glass and not showing up when it matters most
I hate the Cs, but the 2024 Cs are one of the best teams of all time, get over it
Use quotation marks, if you repeat what somebody else said.
Need more bonus hours for this show
Clutch? Last year Tatum scored 18 in the 4th at Philadelphia while being down 3-2 then in game 7 scored more than any single person ever in an elimination game. If Luka or Giannis did that, there wouldn’t be 2 seconds on any sports show where they’re still not talking about it
The look on Nick's face whenever Kevin Wildes brings up a graphic 😂
If he takes away the step back 3's and the Kobe turnarounds his efficiency would go way up. You saw in the playoffs if the shot wasn't there, he put his head down and either got to the rack or had a nice dish. He was also doubled a ton which nobody ever mentions.
In the finals he wasn't doubled a ton. And he kept shooting, even though he was missing every shot. And he led the Celtics in turnovers.
@@penkima4923 rewatch. The first 2 game it was all double inside the 3pt line and anytime he went corner. That’s why he started dishing a ton and was racking up assists. He also led it pts assists and rebounds. Normally person with ball the most has most turnovers.
@@edelmantoamendola "The first 2 game it was all double inside the 3pt line and anytime he went corner."
So, he wasn't doubled.
"That’s why he started dishing a ton and was racking up assists."
He took the most shots for the Celtics in game 1, and most shots for both teams in game 2.
"He also led it pts"
JB scored more in game 1 and 2.
"assists"
And he led in turnovers. Even though they had Holiday with zero turnovers until game 4. Tatum wanted to hog the ball to go for the finals MVP.
"and rebounds"
He played heavy minutes as a power forward, so I don't see this being surprising. What's surprising is he wasn't benched.
"Normally person with ball the most has most turnovers."
Normally the point guard with zero turnovers should have the ball the most. And normally a player who keeps shooting at 32 % is benched.
Joker is not the first “point center” we have seen. Hakeem was definitely a point center and by far the most skilled center to play that position. This Recency bias is starting to get out of hand.
Dream Was Not The Point Center Dude… Kenny & Cassell Ran The 1… Jokic Averages 10 Assists, Hakeem’s Career High Assist Average Is 3 Assists
You Just Saying Words
I’d say he’s the evolution of Bill Walton Vlade Divac and Chris Webber. I think the way the game evolved allowed Jokic to bring the ball up but those guys were just as skilled passing and ball handling.
@@DavidWilliams-mo7cvYes. Exactly
There are not enough words in any known language on planet earth to describe what a ridiculous comment that is. The Dream the first point center ? This can’t be real, stop it.
No he was not he could pass but nowhere near the level of Jokic you trippin
I see Tatum as a Paul Pierce kind of player, but without the clutchness
WISH THIS SHOW WAS THIS LONG EVERYDAY
I love luka but he cant be top 3 in the best player of the league category after only winning one game in the finals lol
Well, the refs won the finals, so which ref do you have as the best in the league?
For some reason he gets a pass; meanwhile JT won and he's almost Tier 3 smh
@@penkima4923 Refs aint win no finals 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@josephbranch2736 You better believe it. Go watch the finals.
@@briansteward5085 (this also goes to Joseph) it's a TEAM game!!!!! JT didn't beat Luka in the finals. The Celtics beat the Mavericks. sheesh
Tatum: $9m more than Brown, 1st team All NBA...
Brown: $9m less than Tatum, ECF MVP, Finals MVP...
Tatum would happily pay $9m for those two MVPs...
Why 😂😂😂
Exactly. "Jalen just let me win them and I will give you $9 mil dollars" - Jason
Yeah the Celtics give Tatum more opportunities than Brown, that’s why he gets better stats and gets more regular season accolades. To me Brown is overall better
I hope brown leaves
They just wanted to win man, and as a Boston fan that's all we care about. If he wins MVP cool. Would you rather be a 6er's fans and having a top 2 mvp candidate each year but losing in the 2nd round? Or be a Celtics fan watching a collection of excellent players and watching your team in the ECF or finals almost every year and just winning the chip?
This show deserves the extra hour!
Well now I’m spoiled I need the extra hour before every show now
I don’t get the giannis shout, what can he do other than play nfl in the paint? Can’t Free throw, can’t shoot the 3 ball, most overrated big I’ve ever seen!
Facts
i mean u can say the same thing about shaq but hes dominant at what he does.. definitely not overrated but sga is better
Why isn’t Klay Thomspson in the MVP odds? He gonna pop off this year for sure
The way every sports media show is talking you would think he's more than a decent third option at this point lol
Cause he's the third option on his team.
Between 2016 and 2018 I'd have said with a straight face that Klay is the best 2-way player in basketball: He could defend better than anyone who wasn't known specifically for their defence (i.e. Kawhi, Draymond, Gobert) but could score as well as anyone in the league, particularly better than those guys who could also claim to be good defenders. He didn't win an MVP. I don't think he has a chance of winning one on a team with Luka who will stuff the stat box too much and at best see the two cannibalize each others chances. Putting him in the odds would be like an honorable mention or a hot take (kind of like Tatum) as he's just not nearly as good as Jokic, Giannis, or Embid and if Wemby puts up the points to warrant it, that award will likely be his anyway.
He might pop off his hip since he’s like 35
You know nothing about basketball 😂
One thing Nick and Chris overlook about why there hasn’t been a repeat champ since the Warriors is due largely to injuries. Every defending champ since the KD Warriors has had one of their two best players be injured for extended periods the following season.
Luka is LeBron with a 25 inch Vert 😂
Brou and Wildes > Wright
the three of them > weird, divisive comments like this
I know most ppl don’t like how brash Nick is but you can’t have this great show without him equally as brou and wildes…that’s what makes them the best sports personality show right now!
Nick got way worse, he cares a lot less. He thinks he's above caring right now.
He used to actually watch games and tween, now he writes about the whole finals 1-2 times.
Mr wrong a clown. A fully healthy Joel is better than anybody
Hater
LUKA got lucky in life and fell into a defensively weak weak NBA, dude himself doesn't play defense and he just pivots or side steps while they watch.
He’s a perfect example of why box stats don’t mean everything. He takes the most ugly shots and ball hogs like crazy but finishes with 30/10/10
Nick actually made a good point Excluding Emdiid, Brou said tenacious defense while also including Luka ahead of JT… they need to look at JTs Defense numbers. JT avg 30+ for a season, didn’t get the chip… avgs 26 wins a chip, what do y’all really want.
The notion Tatum is not tenacious defensively is absurd. Dallas’ lob game cratered in the finals after being the most efficiently lethal weapon in the Western Conference playoffs. Tatum was Boston’s primary defender against the lob the whole series and turned that weapon into a detriment.
Also, the best player in the NBA is Wemby. Remember, with no help, he got the better of Joker, Giannis, and Luka - and outplayed them head to head the last 2 months of the year
Did Nick just admit Basketball is a team sport when describing the greatness of Isiah Thomas? The Greatest actual point guard. And I mean by size. Curry is a shooting guard while Green plays point. Magic is small forward who played out of position. The Big O also played out of position.
Is it not funny that the Top 5 MVP candidates are NOT American….😂
I don't really get the humor but... ok
@Ace14477 you're American I'm sure. Yes it's probably not funny, but it's sad for America. You guys are no longer creating the greatest players in the game anymore
@@nvm8824you can say that but, An American won finals mvp and guess who’s gonna win the gold this summer, America
@@nvm8824 Yea I don't really care for weird irrelevant bragging about what country has the best basketball players but... ok lol. Bragging about other individuals accomplishments that just happen to share the same country as you is weird. But, hey each his own
@Ace14477 None of those players come from My country. My country is not a Basketball Country. And I wasn't bragging just pointing out the obvious. I get that I correctly called you out on your Bias in response to the original post, but that doesn't mean I have bias in regards to players that are currently at the top and I wasn't bragging about those players just pointing out that other countries are currently creating better players than the US and based on what we seen in this draft it'll keep getting worse. But I get you're so mature for not caring about that but caring enough to respond to the Original post.
The bias for Luka is crazy, Tatum is literally an NBA champion lol and still can never make it to top 3 group? Nick you’re insane. 😂
Brew’s reaction when Wilds listed Brunson 😂
An extra hour, what a blessing
bonus hour, changed my day!
How are we talking about Tatums Defense keeping him out of that when Luka is a much worse defender?
I'm going to be as unbiased as possible and really try to rank the top 25 in the NBA right now while prioritizing youth, defense, health, and regular season + playoffs performance (this is actually really fun, and everyone should try to do it).
1) Jokic
2) Giannnis
3) SGA
4) Luka
5) Tatum
6) Embiid
7) Lebron
8) AD
9) KD
10) Brunson
11) Curry
12) Booker
13) Ant
14) Zion
15) Kawhi
16) Sabonis
17) Haliburton
18) Wemby
19) Mitchell
20) Fox
21) Brown
22) Kyrie
23) Sengun
24) Maxey
25) Murray
Notes: AD, Brunson, and Sabnois are severely underrated. Ant is hard to rank because he had an amazing post season, but he was much more tame during the regular season. Lebron, KD, Curry, and Kawhi are hard to rank, because they are still elite, but their age is a factor. Luka is bad on defense, but he is still young and his offense is too elite to ignore. Tatum is high because he's young, always healthy, solid on offense and defense and just won the chip. Embiid is incredible but he is lower because he's always injured. Wemby is this high purely because of his youth and potential. Wemby could legit be top 10 next season. Brown could be even higher because of his defense alone. Brown shut down Luka numerous times in the Finals. Murray had a bad season and postseason, hence him being so low. Butler didn't make the list because he always coasts in the regular season, hurting his stats. Maybe if Butler made up for it with an amazing playoff run, but he was injured and the Heat lost in the first round.
There was never a moment in Tim Duncan career that he was considered the best player in the world they gotta stop the 🧢
Thank you! The Duncan love is crazy! Wonderful guy. But to put him in the top 10 conversation over others. MVP does not mean best player in the world.
Dude, Tatum is an excellent defender. Not just good; excellent. Brou has the best basketball takes on this show but Tatum already does that.
Uh, $314M or MVP? $314 million dollars any day.
Tatum is as good defensively as any of the top players in the league. If you want you superstar to "Give it his all on both ends," then Tatum is your guy
He isn't elite defensively.
This is wild.
FTF is great, but lets be clear. We LOVE Chris, Nick, and Kevin. Give them the Pat contract if you want any views in 2 years.
Great show, definitely 👍
I love this show so much ❤️❤️
What happened to the full episodes ?
17:50 once jokic gets the telegram lmaoooo
Boy said Bron a tenacious defender 😂😂😂
Bonus hour of FTF because they realized J Mac cannot have three hours to himself😂
lol him not being better then Luka is wild. I'm not even a Tatum supporter.
Good show today guys
These guys are doing the same thing with Anthony Edwards that they did with Tatum. All these expectations and excuses for while he's young only to disappoint when he gets older. Who gives these people "analyst" titles? Terrible takes and you can clearly see a bias in their supposed "assessments".
JA Morant must be playing with his boys and guns instead of being somewhere on this list lol
Colin picked the wrong week for a vacation
Wildes’ questions seem to be so far out ahead of Nick and Broussard, it’s curious how Nick thinks that rattling off cherry-picked “statistics” marinated in his personal opinion is so important.
first point center was joakm noah
No.
@@penkima4923 the year d rose was hurt noah made all nba 1st team bringing the ball up court and on fast breaks, the offense ran through him for his passing look it up
The hate on Boston is so real with Nick!!!smh!!!
Luka is a better offensive player but Tatum is the better all around baller. No debate. Luka doesn’t play defense..
Once again blending most accomplished and best skills in and out when needed to keep the discussion going in circles. Set the parameter for what you consider "best in the world" and then the conversation is usually pretty easy.
Yo why does the goal post move for Tatum lol
11:09 try doing this with your hand
The fact ppl still put Luka up there is crazy. Like what has he done? That’s like saying Westbrook. Both are triple double machines but that don’t make them the greatest. Luka can’t even play defense in the slightest way.
Luka is NOT in Giannis & Jokic' level.! Cut it out Nick Wrong & Chrisbron Broussard James.! You guys are being disingenuous
The players like Tatum.... Kobe, LeBron, Jordan. Lmao
Nick spittin facts and no one wants to hear it
"Once Jokic gets the telegram--"😆
its time that First things First take over as the main show on FS1. Undisputed is unwatchable while FTF is fun everyday.
Yes finally 2 and half hours but let’s get more different topics especially in the summer time.
its kind of crazy that the owners decided to spend all this money and sign like it doesn't matter then they said "Celtics are for sale" lmao
Miami with butler is Celtics kryptonite